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Respectfully, you continue to show your ignorance here.Respectfully, this should be adjusted to income level.
Respectfully, you continue to show your ignorance here.Respectfully, this should be adjusted to income level.
I am glad you appreciate my humor/sarcasm.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
Are you serious right now? I know that "ignoring" me has increased your numbers to 90-100 but this right here is hilarious.
Just wait till I finish White Fragility.Respectfully, you continue to show your ignorance here.
I've never really believed Kaepernick was the victim of a owner conspiracy to keep him out of the game. We're talking about businesses who'll pay the likes of Ray Rice and every felonious girlfriend beating POS who can run jump throw or catch a ball millions so long as they produce on the field.Yea he picked up that Nike endorsement and I'm sure he's had some other deals going. But whatever he's been doing, I'm sure his income is multiple standard deviations away from being a starting NFL QB with that kind of contract and endorsements.
I've never really believed Kaepernick was the victim of a owner conspiracy to keep him out of the game. We're talking about businesses who'll pay the likes of Ray Rice and every felonious girlfriend beating POS who can run jump throw or catch a ball millions so long as they produce on the field.
The truth is Kaepernick was benched for Blaine freakin' Gabbard before he began kneeling. His days as a starting NFL QB were over, and every one of us 49er fans knew it and were sobbing into our beers over it. He played well, for a short time, in a system the 49ers built around his talents, and then opponents adjusted to him, and the happy days were over.
He'd have made a poor backup choice elsewhere given that most other teams had offenses that would've been a poor fit for him. And you can't tune an offense around a backup QB.
It was his declining performance, salary demands, and style that was a poor fit for most teams, that kept him off the field. Add in the nonfootball drama and it's no wonder no team wanted him. Every other kneeling player stayed on a team. Then he finally gets a workout last year and he shows up with demands and an entourage and camera crew.
He's a smart guy, and landed on his feet. I bet he'll laugh last, after all he's earning Nike money and he's not getting pounded into the turf by a 280 pound roided up defensive end 5 or 10 times per week.
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It was his declining performance, salary demands, and style that was a poor fit for most teams, that kept him off the field.
I've never really believed Kaepernick was the victim of a owner conspiracy to keep him out of the game. We're talking about businesses who'll pay the likes of Ray Rice and every felonious girlfriend beating POS who can run jump throw or catch a ball millions so long as they produce on the field.
The truth is Kaepernick was benched for Blaine freakin' Gabbard before he began kneeling. His days as a starting NFL QB were over, and every one of us 49er fans knew it and were sobbing into our beers over it. He played well, for a short time, in a system the 49ers built around his talents, and then opponents adjusted to him, and the happy days were over.
He'd have made a poor backup choice elsewhere given that most other teams had offenses that would've been a poor fit for him. And you can't tune an offense around a backup QB.
It was his declining performance, salary demands, and style that was a poor fit for most teams, that kept him off the field. Add in the nonfootball drama and it's no wonder no team wanted him. Every other kneeling player stayed on a team. Then he finally gets a workout last year and he shows up with demands and an entourage and camera crew.
He's a smart guy, and landed on his feet. I bet he'll laugh last, after all he's earning Nike money and he's not getting pounded into the turf by a 280 pound roided up defensive end 5 or 10 times per week.
Mostly agree and I'm sick of people whining about him. He lost his job to a sad excuse of a backup in Gabbert. If he was still starter material, some team would have taken him even despite the drama surrounding the kneeling. And I don't believe there was any sort of agreement amongst the owners to keep him out.
All that said, I disagree about the part regarding his style of play and poor fit schematically being an issue. Like @crash2500 said, he was undoubtedly talented enough to be picked up and used for certain playsets. Problem is, in my opinion, he wasn't talented enough to overcome the backlash from fans (or at least in the perception of the owners, the hit their team would take from an angry fanbase) to be worth having on your team in that capacity.
So it's somewhere in between your and vector's takes I think. He wasn't nearly as talented as people like to claim when saying he was kept out of the league unfairly, but he certainly was (and probably still is) talented enough to be on a team if it wasn't for the drama that comes with signing him.
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Bad Apples in Buffalo
Fifty-seven officers were willing to take a stand to defend misconduct rather than oppose it.www.theatlantic.com

RIP to Maurice Gordon
He was unarmed (patted down by a police officer), waiting for a tow truck with said officer and then was killed by the police officer.
I hope the family finds out what happens.
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Family demands answers after unarmed black man killed by N.J. trooper, attorney says
Maurice Gordon, 28, was shot May 23 while waiting for a tow truck during a traffic stop on the Garden State Parkway.www.nj.com
It's laughable to still believe Kap didn't get picked up because of his skill. Plenty of teams could have used him even as a gadget play qb for the league minimum. The real reason, as an NFL exec recently came out and said was because it would have cost a team 20% of its season ticket holders in the short term. Add in that many NFL owners are very pro Trump, and you get to where we are today.
It's business baby. And he was bad for business at the time.
It's baffling to me how anyone can even question that the protest issue wasn't the major factor in his never getting resigned, especially in a backup capacity, and especially especially cause dual-purpose QBs who can rush 500+ yds a season have just gotten more and more popular in the latter half of this decade.

Of course it's business, that was my point. I'm disagreeing with the racist conspiracy narrative. He wasn't willing to play for the league minimum. He expected to be paid what a superbowl QB gets paid, and he wasn't worth near that.
If he was really that good people would've watched him and bought tickets. Professional sports are full of dirtbag lowlifes that get cheered wildly because they produce. The truth is, there isn't a shortage of backup-quality or gimmick quarterbacks out there, and he just wasn't better than all the other options (or "enough" better to overcome the associated drama) and I don't blame the owners one bit for wanting their business of entertainment to stay out of politics.
Benched
For Blaine Gabbert
By the team that built a SB quality offense around him
Clearly somebody thought that he wasn't all that great once the superstar supporting cast melted away.
I am not a football fan, but I know one thing: employers don't like trouble. The ideal employee is one that does his job and only opens his mouth to say "yes, sir!", "right away, sir!" "thank you, sir!".Mostly agree and I'm sick of people whining about him. He lost his job to a sad excuse of a backup in Gabbert. If he was still starter material, some team would have taken him even despite the drama surrounding the kneeling. And I don't believe there was any sort of agreement amongst the owners to keep him out.
All that said, I disagree about the part regarding his style of play and poor fit schematically being an issue. Like @crash2500 said, he was undoubtedly talented enough to be picked up and used for certain playsets. Problem is, in my opinion, he wasn't talented enough to overcome the backlash from fans (or at least in the perception of the owners, the hit their team would take from an angry fanbase) to be worth having on your team in that capacity.
So it's somewhere in between your and vector's takes I think. He wasn't nearly as talented as people like to claim when saying he was kept out of the league unfairly, but he certainly was (and probably still is) talented enough to be on a team if it wasn't for the drama that comes with signing him.
Of course it's business, that was my point. I'm disagreeing with the racist conspiracy narrative. He wasn't willing to play for the league minimum. He expected to be paid what a superbowl QB gets paid, and he wasn't worth near that.
If he was really that good people would've watched him and bought tickets. Professional sports are full of dirtbag lowlifes that get cheered wildly because they produce. However, the truth is, there isn't a shortage of backup-quality or gimmick quarterbacks out there, and he just wasn't better than all the other options (or "enough" better to overcome the associated drama) and I don't blame the owners one bit for wanting their business of entertainment to stay out of politics.
Benched
For Blaine Gabbert
By the team that built a SB quality offense around him
Clearly somebody thought that he wasn't all that great once the superstar supporting cast melted away.
Here’s what should happen:
1. Police unions banned (Or at the very least only for pay negotiation, not to be involved in matters of discipline).
2. Police wear body cams that are on 24-7, if there is an injury or death while policing the entirety of the interaction (including lead-up) is automatically reviewed by a 3rd party civilian panel.
3. Affirmative action is abolished. Admissions/job initial screen via name/color blinded panels.
4. Media has to provide race/crime coverage based on statistical occurrence. For example, if 3 black people are killed by police for every 2 white, they need to use 3:2 airtime.
5. No more politically correct BS about white fragility and how all whites are racist by virtue of birth. That’s no more true than all blacks are criminals— and it’s amazing that a book/statement like that isn’t ITSELF laughed at as patently racist. Seriously, I think stuff like that is 80% of the reason why we have Trump in the White House.
6. Lots of tax funding to early childhood + family resources to the poor to makeup for disparities (ie 90% of our money should be towards elementary and below as after that it’s hard to make a difference).
Here’s what should happen:
1. Police unions banned (Or at the very least only for pay negotiation, not to be involved in matters of discipline).
2. Police wear body cams that are on 24-7, if there is an injury or death while policing the entirety of the interaction (including lead-up) is automatically reviewed by a 3rd party civilian panel.
3. Affirmative action is abolished. Admissions/job initial screen via name/color blinded panels.
4. Media has to provide race/crime coverage based on statistical occurrence. For example, if 3 black people are killed by police for every 2 white, they need to use 3:2 airtime.
5. No more politically correct BS about white fragility and how all whites are racist by virtue of birth. That’s no more true than all blacks are criminals— and it’s amazing that a book/statement like that isn’t ITSELF laughed at as patently racist. Seriously, I think stuff like that is 80% of the reason why we have Trump in the White House.
6. Lots of tax funding to early childhood + family resources to the poor to makeup for disparities (ie 90% of our money should be towards elementary and below as after that it’s hard to make a difference).
Here’s what should happen:
1. Police unions banned (Or at the very least only for pay negotiation, not to be involved in matters of discipline).
2. Police wear body cams that are on 24-7, if there is an injury or death while policing the entirety of the interaction (including lead-up) is automatically reviewed by a 3rd party civilian panel.
3. Affirmative action is abolished. Admissions/job initial screen via name/color blinded panels.
4. Media has to provide race/crime coverage based on statistical occurrence. For example, if 3 black people are killed by police for every 2 white, they need to use 3:2 airtime.
5. No more politically correct BS about white fragility and how all whites are racist by virtue of birth. That’s no more true than all blacks are criminals— and it’s amazing that a book/statement like that isn’t ITSELF laughed at as patently racist. Seriously, I think stuff like that is 80% of the reason why we have Trump in the White House.
6. Lots of tax funding to early childhood + family resources to the poor to makeup for disparities (ie 90% of our money should be towards elementary and below as after that it’s hard to make a difference).
s far as who should be hired, the majority of the police dept personnel need to come from people who live in that zip code,
Here’s what should happen:
3. Affirmative action is abolished.
5. No more politically correct BS about white fragility and how all whites are racist by virtue of birth. That’s no more true than all blacks are criminals— and it’s amazing that a book/statement like that isn’t ITSELF laughed at as patently racist. Seriously, I think stuff like that is 80% of the reason why we have Trump in the White House.
IMHO, cops should be mandated to learn hand to hand combat. Those who can’t muster hand to hand combat training are assigned to administrative work. Maybe if they can subdue an unruly drugged out offender with just their hands, I feel like they are less likely to resort to using guns or excessive force. It’s also likely that hand to hand combat will teach them self awareness, self control, mental toughness and controlled aggression. There is a reason why military academies are still teaching boxing and it’s also a requirement to graduate. Will this lead to less use of excessive force? I think that it does.
While I agree with the theory behind this, it is problematic in practice. Even upstanding “good” cops are likely to make some enemies within the community. This is exacerbated in places with a strong gang presence. You can see why it might be a bad idea to have Joe PD and his family living down the street from Bill gang banger.
But the vast, vast, vast majority of officers nationwide should live within the city limits of the area they patrol.
Don’t you think that’s how it is in most of the country as it is - save for the inner city type places which also happen to be more violent areas.
So he was looking for trouble with what? A cell phone? Do you realize, given his age, if had landed wrong or hit something on the way down he could have easily died?What do you guys think about the old white guy who Police shoved and sustained a head injury? I watched the video and it definitely should have been handled better - but what do you expect when you run up to a large, coordinated, marching police line clearing a square and start waving your cell phone wildly around in their faces (he was literally rubbing his cell phone on one of them)? I’m for some discipline of those 2 cops - but I’m not sure that falls under brutality when they have no idea what he’s about to do and seems like he was looking for trouble.
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Most Police Don’t Live In The Cities They Serve
In Ferguson, Missouri, where protests continue following the shooting of a teenager by a police officer this month, more than two-thirds of the civilian populat…fivethirtyeight.com
What do you guys think about the old white guy who Police shoved and sustained a head injury? I watched the video and it definitely should have been handled better - but what do you expect when you run up to a large, coordinated, marching police line clearing a square and start waving your cell phone wildly around in their faces (he was literally rubbing his cell phone on one of them)? I’m for some discipline of those 2 cops - but I’m not sure that falls under brutality when they have no idea what he’s about to do and seems like he was looking for trouble.
I think what you’re really getting at, is that you want a police force that is more ethnically similar to the area they patrol.
I'm pretty sure cops are still covered in the Declaration of Independence...you know...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now I'm all for police reform cause it's obvious we got a problem in this country, but come one man. Let's keep it realistic.No, what I'm getting at is exactly what I said. Officers should not treat their beat like they're an occupying force each time they get a call, and they're less inclined to do so if theyre actually invested socially and financially in the cities they police.
No, what I'm getting at is exactly what I said. Officers should not treat their beat like they're an occupying force each time they get a call, and they're less inclined to do so if theyre actually invested socially and financially in the cities they police.
I'm pretty sure cops are still covered in the Declaration of Independence...you know...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now I'm all for police reform cause it's obvious we got a problem in this country, but come one man. Let's keep it realistic.
I think if you put yourself in the shoes of an LEO, you’ll see why that idea is a non-starter.
Now you know that's not exactly the same thing as what you're proposing.And yet residency requirements still exist and indeed they used to be much more routine than they are today, all without anyone thinking a constitutional challenge was needed. I wonder if my friend should bring a Constitutional suit since he has to live within 30 min of his hospital...
And salty, I think if you put yourself in the shoes of the majority of tax paying, law abiding residents in certain areas who get policed by people who treat all of them like criminals, you'll understand why they don't give two shts about what you think is a non-starter for LEOs.
Now you know that's not exactly the same thing as what you're proposing.
Is it a fact though? Admittedly, you're probably more versed in this than I am since I have never had this conversation before and have little interest in learning about it at this point in my life. Just because it's your/the courts belief doesn't make it so. My personal experince (albeit this was in Iraq) is that police officers get car bombs placed underneath their car if the people (enemies) know where they live.Is it not? A cursory google search shows that Federal courts have held up as Constitutional the ability for employers to impose restrictions on employee geographic proximity as long as there is a rational basis. I think the fact that police being part of their neighborhood makes them less likely to murder their neighbors is quite rational.
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Generally, residency requirements have been upheld and deemed to be constitutional by the Federal Courts so long as the employing jurisdiction has demonstrated some "rational" basis for the provision.1
In Clinton Police Department Bargaining Unit v. City of Clinton (464 N.W.2d 875, Iowa), the court upheld a city requirement that employees live within 10 miles of their duty station. The court found that "rational"
interests included such things as having employees available for emergency calls, employees having a stake in the community, enhancing the tax base, improving community attitudes and cooperation, increasing loyalty to the community, and reducing absenteeism.
Mixing with the community, contributing to the tax base, and concerns about police response time were considered the "rational basis" for the residency requirement in Tiffany v. City of Payette, 825 P.2d 493 (Idaho). Both of these cases also declared that the residency rules did not infringe on an employee's right to free travel. In the United States Supreme Court's last decision regarding the constitutionality of public employee residency requirements, the Court said, "This kind of ordinance is not irrational."
Additionally, the high court found such requirements to be lawful conditions of employment on the basis that there is no fundamental right to government employment and they do not unconstitutionally impinge on the right to travel. McCarthy v. Philadelphia Civil Service Commission, 424 U.S. 645, 646 (1976)"
you'll understand why they don't give two shts about what you think is a non-starter for LEOs.
Uhhhhh, you realize George Floyd was killed by “hand to hand combat” right?
Huh??? I never once saw hand to hand combat. Floyd was already in cuffs.
All I’m saying is teach them professional techniques for hand to hand combat. Learn how to do a takedown on an offender that can’t be reasoned with due to mental capacity or high on drugs. Maybe with proper teachings, cops could learn to be more disciplined. Also, through this type of training they can weed out people who aren’t able to controlled their aggression.
. My personal experince (albeit this was in Iraq) is that police officers get car bombs placed underneath their car if the people (enemies) know where they live.
I’m sure they don’t, but see how many people sign up to be LEO’s in high crime areas when you tell them they have to live there. You’re gonna end up with a severe shortage in these areas. Maybe minimal law enforcement in these areas is what you’re after?? Would that be better or worse - I honestly don’t know??
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