There Be Basics WW 2021

[WildZoo]

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Nah I don't mean hard pushing us. I just mean pushing us for reads or questioning our thoughts on the thread

Is that what I'm doing with Vis?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

The initial feeling is based on my gut, her responses seem a bit bland to her accusations without much of a defense. She seems rather scripted but you all would likely know better than I having only just joined... her defense for shorty also seems suspicious to me, but again having not played in previous games I am unsure if they influenced this choice.

hmmm boyfriend reads, genuine or a new wolf throwing his girlfriend under the bus?
im not touching my own new wolf reads after how horribly wrong i was last time though lol
im still so sorry zenge

 

[genny]

I only brag when I win

Which is most of the time

except when you choke

 

[WildZoo]

hmmm boyfriend reads, genuine or a new wolf throwing his girlfriend under the bus?

@Aprilthearab assess?

 

[Dinashadow]

hmmm boyfriend reads, genuine or a new wolf throwing his girlfriend under the bus?
im not touching my own new wolf reads after how horribly wrong i was last time though lol
im still so sorry zenge

Or resentment for not bringing home panera and indian? 🤔

 

[Crayola227]

Wait, what is Ro defending against in this scenario?

Proactive defense. Like defending himself ad a noob before anyone can call him out on anything. Reads sketchy as hell to me.

 

[WildZoo]

except when you choke

G E N N Y
THE NOOBS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Or resentment for not bringing home panera and indian? 🤔

oh no you're right its this. Id be so mad if i knew I missed out on indian.

 

[Crayola227]

What games has alley been misyeeted in? I’m sure it’s happened but I can’t remember.

I don't know, but I think it has something to do with how she defends, that makes me feel like she's an easy target. Lol I should probably stop saying that I don't want to give them any ideas.

 

[WildZoo]

Proactive defense. Like defending himself ad a noob before anyone can call him out on anything. Reads sketchy as hell to me.

I read it as "noob" but can appreciate this

 

[kaydubs]

It's Only Day 1 with Plenty to Choose From Yeet Tally

April (4) - AM, alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM (1) - genny
Dina (1) - April
alleycat (1) - Philosloth
DubZ (1) - kras
kras (1) - supershorty
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (2) - Crayola, DubZ
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo

13/18

Missing: @Ms Procrastinator @vetschoolsletmeinplease @LaineyLou @Zenge142 @sunshinefl

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TOMORROW, Saturday 2/6/2021 (~24.5 hours)

 

[Aprilthearab]

Oh I think you'd probably be able to tell her tone better than anyone else. This is interesting.

Well, he's not familiar with my internet tone, so I'm not sure how accurate of a statement that would be compared to the people I've played with for a few games in a row

 

[kaydubs]

What if Day 1 was made dicier by having varying duration length with a possibility of major....what-if...

 

[Viscernable]

I don't know, but I think it has something to do with how she defends, that makes me feel like she's an easy target. Lol I should probably stop saying that I don't want to give them any ideas.

It’s an interesting point. I’d be comcerned about people pushing alley without good reason if it were the case, but I’m just not sure that after noob game she’s been an easy misyeet target.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

What if Day 1 was made dicier by having varying duration length with a possibility of major....what-if...

what is up your sleeve oh god

 

[WildZoo]

What if Day 1 was made dicier by having varying duration length with a possibility of major....what-if...

Majority d1 is madness kd, MADNESS

 

[Crayola227]

true... i thought only wolves could kill. Was she a wolf? I cant remember

She was not, she was a vig and thought you were a wolf.

Which, AM, I'd like to know why you thought so. I want to say it's relevant to this game for me to try to understand what goes on in that cryptic brain of yours. It doesn't seem like you to conclude a vote for you = they must be wolf, so I'm giving benefit of the doubt there was something more she did. I want to know because I'm trying to improve my reading of players early game and VCA.

 

[kaydubs]

Majority d1 is madness kd, MADNESS

But we could make it EVEN MADDER.

Super spice, as it were

 

[Aprilthearab]

Is that what I'm doing with Vis?

Not exactly the same kind of approach I remember, but I'm taking note of it. But I do know you are incredible at manipulating people out of sussing you so I'm keeping note of that too

 

[Aprilthearab]

@Aprilthearab assess?

I still think he thinks it's funny but I also want to know what exactly is making him sus me since he hasn't made that very clear yet.

 

[Crayola227]

omg AM gave me an angry react. She loves me -insert classic SDN lovey emoji because the new one sucks-

@Lawpy do you if we can still access that emoji?

 

[Acehunter123]

Or resentment for not bringing home panera and indian? 🤔

Still got thr food so we're good guys! 😀

 

[Aprilthearab]

Or resentment for not bringing home panera and indian? 🤔

He literally just ate half of the food I took home that was meant to feed five people, I hope not 🤣

 

[genny]

so far, cray sounds fine, dubz sounds like she's excited about her role which makes me worry about 3P, and i'm wondering why kras and AM haven't had a fight yet.

 

[Crayola227]

All moves are wolfy dubz moves as all moves are village dubz moves

I hear it causes real problems when people try to read me

Eh if nothing else last game reaffirmed my sense that wolf!dubz can be a softer touch than villagedubz

 

[supershorty]

Some thoughts:

April's salt vote doesn't make sense to me - and it gives me a little twinge that she said that AM didn't occur to her, because in the last game, I brought up in dead chat that I thought her fixation on the AM/Lainey thing days after the fact was kind of odd given that both players were dead at that point. I'm not sure if I feel like it's super wolfy, but it doesn't feel quite genuine (that or her outrage about Lainey being killed was manufactured in the last game, but I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish if that was the case, given that AM was also dead). I don't have strong reads at this point, but there are a few people who I have weak village reads on and April is not one of them at this point.

I'm willing to give ace, Lainey, and RoRo some benefit of the doubt as total noobs for now - RoRo has only made 2 posts on the board in total, so I believe the total noob thing. I don't have reads on them at all yet based on their posts.

kras and AM aren't fighting, which makes me wonder if they're the same affiliation or if kras just hasn't come back from teaching baby doctors how to do physicals.

 

[Crayola227]

Correction, dina lurking (or being in wolfchat with Ace) confirmed

Ok this is more aggressive. But good (village) aggressive or bad agresdive (wolf?)

 

[WildZoo]

so far, cray sounds fine, dubz sounds like she's excited about her role which makes me worry about 3P, and i'm wondering why kras and AM haven't had a fight yet.

Silly genny. I get excited about many different roles.

Do you have a feeling on the Vis vs several people situation? Or April?

 

[genny]

Silly genny. I get excited about many different roles.

Do you have a feeling on the Vis vs several people situation? Or April?

am i supposed to read noobs too? crap, this just got a lot harder.

 

[WildZoo]

I still think he thinks it's funny but I also want to know what exactly is making him sus me since he hasn't made that very clear yet.

I thought he did clarify. But I suppose your argument for that is that he's unfamiliar with your internet tone.

 

[Animal Midwife]

She was not, she was a vig and thought you were a wolf.

Which, AM, I'd like to know why you thought so. I want to say it's relevant to this game for me to try to understand what goes on in that cryptic brain of yours. It doesn't seem like you to conclude a vote for you = they must be wolf, so I'm giving benefit of the doubt there was something more she did. I want to know because I'm trying to improve my reading of players early game and VCA.

I thought her oscillation between not knowing wolves shared a PM to noting that I was far more aggressive than the typical villager in her first game seemed unrealistic. That plus the deep sensation that kras/mayo/Lou felt like it contained one wolf led to the shot.

 

[genny]

vis isn't being as helpful as i remember as a villager - not as decisive or leaderly. april just sounds like april so far.

 

[WildZoo]

am i supposed to read noobs too? crap, this just got a lot harder.

The noob pass only exists for the first game you play with them 😛

 

[Crayola227]

In that case, would you think Vis is villager or Dubz is pushing a fellow wolf? Because she did that to us quite often in the last game and that also feels like a wolfy Dubz move.

I don't know, and frankly that's never how I analyze posts. I worry much more about the individual sincerity of the individual making the individual post, and less about the affiliation of the person they are commenting on.

 

[WildZoo]

Idk, April seems less nice this round. Maybe she's village after all.


😉

 

[Animal Midwife]

kras and AM aren't fighting, which makes me wonder if they're the same affiliation or if kras just hasn't come back from teaching baby doctors how to do physicals.

I'm actively avoiding kras to see if she holds true to her word about playing to a pro-village meta if allowed the first few moves.

 

[Crayola227]

It's not just for show
But I do think it's interesting that you think I actually pushed you guys. I was going easy on you

Precisely.

 

[genny]

The noob pass only exists for the first game you play with them 😛

but i've been using it on SAR for years.... never have figured out how to read her.

 

[WildZoo]

I would like for "AM and kras aren't fighting" not to be used as an excuse for a legitimate read. 1) because it clearly has no bearing on their affiliations - we know they do it as v/v, we know they do it as v/w, they could easily replicate it as w/w and 2) I like the not fighting

 

[genny]

2) I like the not fighting

AMEN

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I like the not fighting

yes same lets keep it this way plz

 

[WildZoo]

but i've been using it on SAR for years.... never have figured out how to read her.

Really?? I find her incredibly easy to read most of the time. I always think it's fun how different everyone's soul read pile is.

 

[supershorty]

I support the not fighting! I just was making a note of it because it's different from the other games I've watched where they were both playing

 

[Crayola227]

nearly yeetable for being against glinda

what does VCA mean. My brain goes straight to the VCA chain of veterinary clinics lol

???? intel?

Also not any one post in particular but more of an overall tone, and because I'm still reeling from last game, but I can't tell if WZ is woofing bold or just really proud of herself after the last game/her tone is always just very confident

Vca is vote count analysis. It's looking at everything to do with who votes who when, along with who, and how votes change, and everything in between and then end of day, day by day, to determine motive and to see who is wolfily working together with vote placements.

Very powerful technique if you get good at it. It is one of the only objective data points you get pointing to someone's true intentions and not just what they say.

 

[genny]

Really?? I find her incredibly easy to read most of the time. I always think it's fun how different everyone's soul read pile is.

idk how to play this game, i just show up and say things.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Very powerful technique if you get good at it

it sounds very complex i dont think i will get good at it or even mediocre at it any time soon

 

[WildZoo]

idk how to play this game, i just show up and say things.

genny no

 

[Crayola227]

nearly yeetable for being against glinda

What does this mean?

Also, Dubz is often a crazy mix of uber confident and also a nervous wreck who doesn't always know where to vote. Not exactly AI unless you figure out if she's faking some of either.

 

[WildZoo]

I was temporarily good at VCA when I made color-coded vote trackers, basically tallying every single vote and unvote each day. It was especially helpful after a wolf flip. But these days I don't have the time.

 

[Aprilthearab]

April's salt vote doesn't make sense to me - and it gives me a little twinge that she said that AM didn't occur to her, because in the last game, I brought up in dead chat that I thought her fixation on the AM/Lainey thing days after the fact was kind of odd given that both players were dead at that point. I'm not sure if I feel like it's super wolfy, but it doesn't feel quite genuine (that or her outrage about Lainey being killed was manufactured in the last game, but I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish if that was the case, given that AM was also dead). I don't have strong reads at this point, but there are a few people who I have weak village reads on and April is not one of them at this point.

Honestly, AM didn't occur to me. Not sure why it didn't pop into my head but I can't control that Might have something to do with spending all day with a whiny greyhound behind the reception desk who kept screaming every time I stopped petting her to pick up the phone. I'm kind of tired of trying to have conversations with people who think I'm a murderer