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If you haven't noticed, Shorty's entire post was about you. She made one comment on the end of why she is inclined to neutral/village read me. The rest was picking apart your argument. Also, I still want to hear why you think, APART from my involvement, why shorty is sus to you.

Hey off topic question but how to you add multiple quotes from other people? Can you do it from a phone?
 
I could be wrong, but I just feel like it seems too easy and too obvious to yeet them currently. I will be monitoring for now though incase I get any more drive to do so.
Expand. Why do you think it's "too easy and too obvious"? What, of the evidence presented, do you disagree with? This feels like a cop-out to me and doesn't sit well with me.
 
I could be wrong, but I just feel like it seems too easy and too obvious to yeet them currently. I will be monitoring for now though incase I get any more drive to do so.
The same could be said for Genny. Given the thousand+ posts available by everyone to analyze, who do you think has the most wolfy evidence?
 
Hey off topic question but how to you add multiple quotes from other people? Can you do it from a phone?
Yes! At the bottom of every post, there's a "+ Quote" button. You can click that for as many posts as you'd like. Then when you get to the text box where you type your response, click "Insert quotes..." below the text box. It works the same way on computer and phone.
 
Expand. Why do you think it's "too easy and too obvious"? What, of the evidence presented, do you disagree with? This feels like a cop-out to me and doesn't sit well with me.
CORRECTION: I just reread my previous comments and got a bit muddled in other details. As per my response to Zenge I do think sloth is suspicious especially following Genny's focus on trying to pin Vis. I am not fully convinced so far based on what I've seen to condemn him to death yet. May change strength as the day goes on following more information from others in this chat
 
Right now Sloth is at the top of my sus list. I didn't really get a satisfactory evidence-based answer yesterday regarding why certain reads changed. A lot of her reads are concerning given the results of the flip.

I'm not sure what to think of Dina. Her vote change last night worries me, but otherwise I usually find myself nodding along to her posts. Hopefully not being pocketed...

Definitely keeping an eye on Lainey for possibly making a last-minute Genny bus.

Alley wasn't worrying me yesterday but I'm keeping an eye on her, especially because I village read her for an entire game the last time she was wolf.

Ace, for now, I think is harmless but I want to see what else he comes up with.

Zenge is giving me pretty clear village vibes. He started the wagon on Genny and rode it all the way to its successful wolf yeet.
 
@Acehunter123

Last night there was a “Sloth is sus” sentiment bubbling up.

I asked Genny why she was trying to get the “Vis is Sus” train rolling again as a means of self prez, instead of the more effervescent “Sloth is sus” sentiment that was present at the time, and persistent now, to which she replied:

Given that Genny has now been confirmed wolf, how do you feel about Genny’s decision not to capitalize on the more prevalent Sloth sentiment, and what are your own readings of Sloth?
There have been now two (that ive recorded) statements from genny that seemed to defend another. Defending cray and sloth. Genny said in D1 that they felt cray was "fine" and then they stated they dont find sloth very wolfy. I feel like I will be focusing on cray and sloth for a bit as soon as i catch up.
 
I have to go do some actual school work now :laugh:

But I feel like alley/sloth pack is very likely with a possible fourth wolf that I'm not sure about yet (could be kras, could be lainey with the late bus attempt)
are there always a certain number of wolves?
 
Day 2

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One crackle.

Removed from gameplay/Mod-killed is @DrRoRo - Pirate, vanillager.

On an unrelated note,
I'm going to address this now and hope I don't have to address it again. Please keep in mind that this is a game, for fun. Things can get heated, sure. Avoid personal attacks.

Think of it this way: (example from DubZ whom credits it to vmh)
Not acceptable: "You are dumb."
Acceptable: "Your play here is dumb."
But perhaps even better: "I disagree with the moves you're making."

Personal attacks and other such behavior will not be tolerated. I would like to believe you can all abide by this. Thank you.

14 players remain
2. @Dinashadow
4. @supershorty
5. @Aprilthearab
6. @Ms Procrastinator
8. @alleycat03
9. @vetschoolsletmeinplease
10. @LaineyLou
11. @Zenge142
12. @sunshinefl
13. @kraskadva
14. @Viscernable
16. @Crayola227
17. @PhiloslothicalStudent
18. @Acehunter123

Dead/Lost to Sea/Space
7. @genny - Dragon, vanilla wolf
1. @Animal Midwife - Pirate, vanilla villager/vanillager
3. @WildZoo - Pirate, vanilla villager/vanillager
15. @DrRoRo - Pirate, vanilla villager/vanillager


It is*STILL* Day 2. Yeet/Vote deadline is at 10pm EST (9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm fantasyland) on Monday, 2/8/2021.


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okay some tinfoil here before I actually read/react catch up....

-Cray in breadsticks said to me in wolf chat to avoid being anywhere close to a tie
-Cray in emoji defended her tie that got 2 villagers yeeted by saying it was an accident and that if she were a wolf she would pay much closer attention to avoiding ties
-Cray yesterday sat on a Visc vote with Genny, and then unyeeted Visc with a few minutes to go and begged someone else to move to April with her to avoid a tie
-I didn't put Sloth into wolfy until after yeet writeup. I was previously neutral on her and thought she could help yeet Genny if we needed. Sloth and Cray were active and on and posting in the minutes leading up to yeet.
-I posted after Genny yeet about Genny saying Cray was okay and Dina was lurking like a wolf and wondering how we should think of those now
-Cray dismissed those Genny remarks

...... I think I need to move Cray to ??? as I check more and hear others' thoughts about it

(edited to some more clarity in case you read within 2 minutes of me posting)
 
Categories, with individuals in no particular order

Village
AM
Dina
Alley
Cray
Sunshine
Genny

Weak Village
Zenge
VetSchools
Ace

???
WildZoo
MsP
Lainey
Shorty
Kras
DrRoRo

Wolf-lean
Visc
April
Above: This makes me suspicious of sloth. They are thinking genny is village. Is that because they are trying to protect a packmate? They also lean visc as wolfy which is what genny thought too. SO maybe genny and sloth are packmates trying to draw attention elsewhere.
To me Genny is sounding the same as she always does, every game I have played with her she has been village. With the style she’s playing, she currently doesn’t have me raising any eye brows at the moment.
To be fair re-reading my notes Dina could hover weak village as well, to me their vote isn’t very significant at the moment sine MsP hasn’t posted, but they haven’t said anything that has particularly raised any suspicion for me
Sloth has no good reasons why genny would be village other than they've always played w/ them as village but that doesnt seem a good enough reason.
I could see this as a reason to put someone as neutral but not village right away, especially since you don't know what wolf Genny sounds like.
I agree with april here
 
Would genny have tried to last minute vote on April (packmate) to try to keep herself alive? I mean it didn’t work but it’s one thought.
I considered this if they (wolf pack) thought Genny was a more experienced player and better to preserve, but upon looking at everything else (posts and VCA) I don't think that's the case.
Subtle agreement with genny, says she doesn't plan on keeping her vote on April but ended up staying on it the entire time







More agreement with genny



Alley's reasoning for voting april and staying on april is that her tone seems different this game, which I thought was strange because she wolfed last game so shouldn't her tone be different this game if she's village?
I think the discussion was centered around my tone, not Alley's tone, but I do agree I have a hard time telling apart village Alley from wolf Alley
So with the AM flip that leaves ace and alley on the april vote yesterday. I'm going to

yeet alley

Could go with sloth and possibly kras too. Kinda interesting that the both of them were on the dubz vote together. Going to iso sloth next I think.
I currently have Alley as my weakest village read. As far as April/Alley, I think historically, Alley and April have been getting pocketed by each other back and forth across other games. I don't have any reason to sus Alley, she just hasn't been a very strong presence this game. I do find it interesting that you sus her more than anyone else, to the point of voting for her.
Even with all that Ace has said, I'm inclined to think he's just a really nooby villager who isn't paying close attention. I think if he was a wolf the rest of the pack would have told him to shut up and say something more sensical instead. I guess there's the possibility that they've given up on him and will let him be bait, lol, but after losing one of the pack already, I don't think they would take that risk
At first I thought he was just being funny with his GF, but I see more a super noob wolf who did start trying to explain more now but he was already committed to his April tunnel (and or like you said they gave up on him and will let him be bait). My vote isn't there now though because Sloth is more sus for now, and also a greater threat than a brand new noob wolf.
@Acehunter123

Last night there was a “Sloth is sus” sentiment bubbling up.

I asked Genny why she was trying to get the “Vis is Sus” train rolling again as a means of self prez, instead of the more effervescent “Sloth is sus” sentiment that was present at the time, and persistent now, to which she replied:

Given that Genny has now been confirmed wolf, how do you feel about Genny’s decision not to capitalize on the more prevalent Sloth sentiment, and what are your own readings of Sloth?
I know I already commented on this when I first woke up, but I want to emphasize it again for everyone else.
I felt that out more as bf gf foolishness, at least that’s how I’d be with my bf if he were here.
Yes as I said above, I thought so at first but he stuck there.
Just noting where April and genny are







This was sloth's reply to schools post highlighted above



genny moved from village to neutral and april from wolf to neutral





Sloth pretty much flipped their reads on genny and april. But then...



Dubz was in the ???? slot of sloth's reads the whole time

Sloth can you explain why you went with dubz? It feels completely out of left field based on your reads. Feels like you were trying to hedge towards being sus of wolf genny as more votes were added on her and it looked like she was going down, but then you wanted to stay completely off the wagons to avoid suspicions on you later
Yes Sloth is super sus which is why I am confused you aren't voting that direction.
Okay so I just woke up and have half of 1 eye open. I checked my Mod PM (I lived!) then the write up (we lost 2 villagers 🙁 ) then I skimmed the thread. Need to actually read it with a full brain after I get up and to my computer. Initial thoughts to share:

-I am a little surprised that AM was killed by the wolves given some of us were loudly sus of her
-I feel the strongest village feeling towards Zenge
I am still surprised by the AM choice since she wasn't really being trusted.
 
I am still surprised by the AM choice since she wasn't really being trusted.
I am inclined to think that the remaining wolf pack is relatively nooby based on my current reads and on that particular decision.
 
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*I know I said here that Cray and Sloth couldn't be pack mates so I need to think about that with the Cray tinfoil

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Heads up on my existence IRL: playing speed game tonight while also packing for my away rotation, have to get up early tomorrow morning to drive 2 hours to away (they wouldn't let me get into the provided housing until during/after my first day tomorrow), and said away is in prison so I won't have my phone to look/post during rotation hours (which I still don't know but probably will be 8/9 to 4/5).
 
***** ok now i go away for the rest of the night for anniversary dinner/first dinner as AN ENGAGED PERSONNNN. thank you so much to everyone who congratulated me! it was very kind🙂 *****
I'm back. my mom was supposed to be coming up for dinner but guess who got a text at 8 am saying "see you in an hour!" and i had to frantically clean the house. mama gone, back to WW. 🙂
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Also majorly sus of Ace with the way he was trying to swing everyone to April from the start with what could be very weak reasoning.
agreed
Okay, I admit I don’t know much about American geography, but I was so sure California is not part of Mexico
I mean the county I grew up in is San Joaquin and tbh there are more mexico flags in the neighborhood i grew up in than USA flags 🤣 🤣
And I totally forgot to say earlier but congrats! That’s so exciting!
still reeling, still head over heels and cant stop staring at the SPARKLE RING :biglove:
Dina, on the other hand... That felt like trying to save Genny last-minute. So I guess it really depends on context.
I thought this was interesting and wanted to keep this in mind as I keep reading. I know who's morning dead during this catchup btw. My current hmms are sloth, shorty (though I doubt they would be in a pack together, and shorty is admittedly a much weaker suspicion than sloth), ace and dina.
Definitely suspicious!
indubitably, watson!
i don't like this comment by lainey, i'm feeling worse about her as time goes on.
genny/kras interactions & mentions



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esp. in light of AM's village flip, I'd like to keep these interaction posts handy. kras/genny COULD be w/w, but I think myself in circles trying to put an affiliation to kras' tone. alone, i think kras is actually a little LESS chaotic than usual which i don't super like
Anyway, if there's a bus on genny, Lou is the only candidate. I don't see any other wolves on her the way the wagon formed and what time she voted/first called out genny.
interesting point paired with my feelings abt Lainey
I am also concerned that Lou on genny was a late bus attempt.
quoted this bc i agree and also just a placemarker for me reading the lainey/AM interactions. ew fighting.
I think that the frustration from lainey towards AM is NAI, and doesn't put her more wolf or village. What does push her a little more wolfy to me was the frustration (and this was just my interpretation) of AM ISO'ing her, when AM was ISO'ing everyone who interacted w genny that she didn't have as clear.
Hmm, April still looking suspicious now. Especially with AM gone...🤔
what's the connection?
I really wanted to give Lainey some benefit of the doubt because she's so new, but going back through her posts, I have some questions. Many of her posts aren't really wolf hunting as much as they are just agreeing with what other people say. I wanted to chalk that up to being a noob and not being confident in making her own reads, but after a certain point, it just started to feel a little strange to me because she never actually gives reasoning behind it beyond "reasons" or no explanation at all.


Then there's the back and forth with AM. I initially didn't think anything of this and assumed Lainey was carrying over salt from the previous game, where AM killed her early on, so I didn't think there was anything more than that behind this quote:

However, given that last night turned into an all-out brawl between them and now AM is a dead villager, this gives me the heebie jeebies.

This is another example of her sort-of bandwagoning onto other's ideas - in this case, the misunderstanding of what AM meant by self-prezzing. Again, by itself, not necessarily something that pings me, but because it's a consistent pattern, I start to wonder a little more.

This was early in things getting a little out of control. Again, I've been reading Lainey as fairly neutral until this morning's revelation, but I'm starting to have second thoughts. I'd like to see more from her today with her own reads and interpretations/explanations (beyond saying really general things like "a few reasons").
this is either some serious bussing (which i don't think is super likely) or v/w. moving shorty back to neutrals for now.

ok, two more pages.
 
I'm back. my mom was supposed to be coming up for dinner but guess who got a text at 8 am saying "see you in an hour!" and i had to frantically clean the house. mama gone, back to WW. 🙂
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agreed

I mean the county I grew up in is San Joaquin and tbh there are more mexico flags in the neighborhood i grew up in than USA flags 🤣 🤣

still reeling, still head over heels and cant stop staring at the SPARKLE RING :biglove:

I thought this was interesting and wanted to keep this in mind as I keep reading. I know who's morning dead during this catchup btw. My current hmms are sloth, shorty (though I doubt they would be in a pack together, and shorty is admittedly a much weaker suspicion than sloth), ace and dina.

indubitably, watson!
i don't like this comment by lainey, i'm feeling worse about her as time goes on.

esp. in light of AM's village flip, I'd like to keep these interaction posts handy. kras/genny COULD be w/w, but I think myself in circles trying to put an affiliation to kras' tone. alone, i think kras is actually a little LESS chaotic than usual which i don't super like

interesting point paired with my feelings abt Lainey

quoted this bc i agree and also just a placemarker for me reading the lainey/AM interactions. ew fighting.
I think that the frustration from lainey towards AM is NAI, and doesn't put her more wolf or village. What does push her a little more wolfy to me was the frustration (and this was just my interpretation) of AM ISO'ing her, when AM was ISO'ing everyone who interacted w genny that she didn't have as clear.

what's the connection?

this is either some serious bussing (which i don't think is super likely) or v/w. moving shorty back to neutrals for now.

ok, two more pages.
we keep goin
I'm ISOing Ace right now and planning to do April next, but it takes me longer with the search being funky and seems like a bunch of us are online and posting, so might be some radio silence from me for a bit.
have you tried using the ctrl+f function? the on-site search engine thing confuses me so i just use that and i think it goes ok!
Ace doesn't actually have that many posts to go over yet. I think it's kind of odd that he's been pushing April as hard as he has the entire time just based on a gut feeling. Some of what he says is, I think, typical noob - I'll address some of the relevant quotes below - but he's been very stuck on her for the entire game and it's starting to give me kind of a strange feeling.


I thought this was a joke vote initially, much like how Zenge's first post on the board was to say to yeet me, and didn't put much stock behind it.

Strong statements like this without any justification/explanation make me twitch a little.

These next 2 posts are, I think, more like noob not understanding the 36 hour cycle. It doesn't ping me when someone gets a yeet vote early in the cycle and doesn't panic - a lot can change in 36 hours.

I thought this was a little bit of a strange comment to make since all April had said was that I just wanted to live past D1, which was a reference to my D1 misyeet of last game, but again, noob with no context, meh.


Then Ace started pushing this Zenge narrative, which I thought was interesting given how hard Zenge was going after genny yesterday (and now knowing the end result of that). Zenge is one of my stronger village reads at this point based on that performance yesterday, although he was wrong on his AM read that he posted this morning.







At this point, I started feeling like there was a lot of pushing April forward and really not a lot of justification. I think she's been actively wolf hunting throughout the thread, and Ace keeps going after her but with relatively unsubstantiated arguments. I have had a neutral/weak village read on her and that's why I want to ISO her next.

Can you expand on this more? Why specifically does AM's death ping April to you, rather than anyone else in the group?
another one that makes me feel a little better about shorty
To go to such lengths seems strange to me. It could be due to this being my first game but I can't help but feel this is a bit more than just defending another villager. Especially when other people also questioned April's motives enough to almost yeet her yesterday.
i might be getting the im new sentiments conflated between noobs, but this makes me feel icky about ace. calling length weird on shorty's one post when he's clearly seen other people (myself included) write mini novels on the thread + the tunneling april with no real substance (in my opinion)
I think if he was a wolf the rest of the pack would have told him to shut up and say something more sensical instead.
that does make sense
Just noting where April and genny are







This was sloth's reply to schools post highlighted above



genny moved from village to neutral and april from wolf to neutral





Sloth pretty much flipped their reads on genny and april. But then...



Dubz was in the ???? slot of sloth's reads the whole time

Sloth can you explain why you went with dubz? It feels completely out of left field based on your reads. Feels like you were trying to hedge towards being sus of wolf genny as more votes were added on her and it looked like she was going down, but then you wanted to stay completely off the wagons to avoid suspicions on you later
i could see sloth in the genny pack
I could be wrong, but I just feel like it seems too easy and too obvious to yeet them currently
didn't like this
Yes! At the bottom of every post, there's a "+ Quote" button. You can click that for as many posts as you'd like. Then when you get to the text box where you type your response, click "Insert quotes..." below the text box. It works the same way on computer and phone.
omg. my dumb*ss has been using the reply button.............
I find it very strange that DrRoro was removed but not MsP who made zero posts??
maybe she askeded to leave
okay some tinfoil here before I actually read/react catch up....

-Cray in breadsticks said to me in wolf chat to avoid being anywhere close to a tie
-Cray in emoji defended her tie that got 2 villagers yeeted by saying it was an accident and that if she were a wolf she would pay much closer attention to avoiding ties
-Cray yesterday sat on a Visc vote with Genny, and then unyeeted Visc with a few minutes to go and begged someone else to move to April with her to avoid a tie
-I didn't put Sloth into wolfy until after yeet writeup. I was previously neutral on her and thought she could help yeet Genny if we needed. Sloth and Cray were active and on and posting in the minutes leading up to yeet.
-I posted after Genny yeet about Genny saying Cray was okay and Dina was lurking like a wolf and wondering how we should think of those now
-Cray dismissed those Genny remarks

...... I think I need to move Cray to ??? as I check more and hear others' thoughts about it

(edited to some more clarity in case you read within 2 minutes of me posting)
interesting points. pin in that for later
I feel that's an effect of 36 hour day cycles, another reason I don't like them
*** it's a little bit of why i actually really prefer 36, i can have a breather/this morning w my mom, i woulda been roasted over a fire then yeeted for being gone half a day*****
 
we keep goin

have you tried using the ctrl+f function? the on-site search engine thing confuses me so i just use that and i think it goes ok!

another one that makes me feel a little better about shorty

i might be getting the im new sentiments conflated between noobs, but this makes me feel icky about ace. calling length weird on shorty's one post when he's clearly seen other people (myself included) write mini novels on the thread + the tunneling april with no real substance (in my opinion)

that does make sense

i could see sloth in the genny pack

didn't like this

omg. my dumb*ss has been using the reply button.............

maybe she askeded to leave

interesting points. pin in that for later

*** it's a little bit of why i actually really prefer 36, i can have a breather/this morning w my mom, i woulda been roasted over a fire then yeeted for being gone half a day*****
caught up


yeet sloth


close close eye on lainey
 
Thread's been so quiet this afternoon 🙁
Ace and I were playing D&D, I can't believe it lasted for four hours
I thought this was interesting and wanted to keep this in mind as I keep reading. I know who's morning dead during this catchup btw. My current hmms are sloth, shorty (though I doubt they would be in a pack together, and shorty is admittedly a much weaker suspicion than sloth), ace and dina.
What's making you hmm at shorty? I find myself agreeing with a lot of things she says. Then again, I could be getting pocketed because I thought she was village all the way up til the time she flipped in the noob game
 
Ace and I were playing D&D, I can't believe it lasted for four hours

What's making you hmm at shorty? I find myself agreeing with a lot of things she says. Then again, I could be getting pocketed because I thought she was village all the way up til the time she flipped in the noob game
i made a note to myself to keep her in mind while i read posts, but now idk where the note was from:/ i was very bad at notetaking yesterday so my notes were a mess. i feel much better abt shorty now
 
have you tried using the ctrl+f function? the on-site search engine thing confuses me so i just use that and i think it goes ok!
Yeah - I like using the on-site search because it allows me to filter by the one person I'm trying to ISO so it just goes a little faster. When I switched it to the threadloom search like Dubz suggested, it started loading all the posts for me. I don't know why the XenForo one isn't working right.
 
i made a note to myself to keep her in mind while i read posts, but now idk where the note was from:/ i was very bad at notetaking yesterday so my notes were a mess. i feel much better abt shorty now
If you catch something let me know because I'm likely to read her posts with unintentionally blissful ignorance lol
 
I currently have Alley as my weakest village read. As far as April/Alley, I think historically, Alley and April have been getting pocketed by each other back and forth across other games. I don't have any reason to sus Alley, she just hasn't been a very strong presence this game. I do find it interesting that you sus her more than anyone else, to the point of voting for her.

Yes Sloth is super sus which is why I am confused you aren't voting that direction.

I might switch to sloth, I'm picking alley > sloth because I'm having a hard time believing there was no wolves on april's lynch except genny and I'm thinking alley > ace in that regard.

I want to hear alley's new reads since the flip and would like sloth to answer my question about voting for dubz.
 
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@vetschoolsletmeinplease , what kind of stone is in your ring? I noticed its color yesterday 😍
I have an emerald in mine instead of a diamond and I LOVE it.
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@vetschoolsletmeinplease , what kind of stone is in your ring? I noticed its color yesterday 😍
I have an emerald in mine instead of a diamond and I LOVE it.
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I have a green amethyst!
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@vetschoolsletmeinplease , what kind of stone is in your ring? I noticed its color yesterday 😍
I have an emerald in mine instead of a diamond and I LOVE it.
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****mine is an emerald too!! With little baby moissanites around it. I’m in love with it!!!****
 
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Non game related

There's a super bowl party going on at the house right now that Ace and I are not involved in and some drunk guy stumbled into my little corner of the house to teach me about border collies and I can't get over it 🤣 🤣
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everyone's in the speed game right now i think
Right now, yeah, but it's been super quiet over here for most of the afternoon. Maybe we should try zenge's trick and lure wolfies with a treat.

@Zenge142 , where's that enchilada hat I need to document?
 
I think imma take this slow thread opportunity to ISO sloth and procrastinate on my epi paper (i said i loved epi, not that i was a good student)

Earlier when I said I was going to do school work I actually watched 20 minutes of a lecture and then spent the next few hours watching youtube :dead:
 
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Non game related

There's a super bowl party going on at the house right now that Ace and I are not involved in and some drunk guy stumbled into my little corner of the house to teach me about border collies and I can't get over it 🤣 🤣
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@SportPonies are you crashing parties?
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