VMCAS Questions and Rants c/o 2023

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Hi guys,

I have a question about assigning courses to meet specific prerequisites on VMCAS. CSU requires 30 electives. I'm assuming these can be any course that does not fulfill another requirement? More importantly, is it better to choose 30 courses where you have earned an A, or is 30 "higher level" courses preferable?
30 electives sounds like a lot, are you sure it's not 30 credit hours worth of electives? But I think you're correct any course not fulfilling another requirement would count. I would say upper level courses that you also did well in would be ideal, but beyond that I'd probably choose ones you got A's in even if they're lower level. (Disclaimer, I didn't apply to CSU)

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Hi guys,

I have a question about assigning courses to meet specific prerequisites on VMCAS. CSU requires 30 electives. I'm assuming these can be any course that does not fulfill another requirement? More importantly, is it better to choose 30 courses where you have earned an A, or is 30 "higher level" courses preferable?
For CSU, their pre-requisite requirements are minimal compared to other schools - they only require genetics, stat, biochem, physics, and english. Basically the rest are "electives", but 12 credits have to be humanities/arts/social sciences. Most schools specifically require biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, etc. but CSU will basically count all those courses as electives. If you have added CSU on VMCAS, you'll see when you're assigning classes to the pre-requisites that you'll have a ton of classes left over that you can add toward the 30 credits of "electives". It sounds scary but it's definitely not. You'll be fine!
 
30 electives sounds like a lot, are you sure it's not 30 credit hours worth of electives? But I think you're correct any course not fulfilling another requirement would count. I would say upper level courses that you also did well in would be ideal, but beyond that I'd probably choose ones you got A's in even if they're lower level. (Disclaimer, I didn't apply to CSU)

Yes, you're right! I meant to say 30 credits, not courses.

For CSU, their pre-requisite requirements are minimal compared to other schools - they only require genetics, stat, biochem, physics, and english. Basically the rest are "electives", but 12 credits have to be humanities/arts/social sciences. Most schools specifically require biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, etc. but CSU will basically count all those courses as electives. If you have added CSU on VMCAS, you'll see when you're assigning classes to the pre-requisites that you'll have a ton of classes left over that you can add toward the 30 credits of "electives". It sounds scary but it's definitely not. You'll be fine!

Would you say the 30 elective credits should not be humanities/arts/social sciences? I'm on the fence regarding stuff like ochem1 where i got an A- vs. something like precalc2 where I got an A. To me, the "accomplishment" is greater in ochem but I don't know if I should just shoot for all A-credits.
 
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Yes, you're right! I meant to say 30 credits, not courses.



Would you say the 30 elective credits should not be humanities/arts/social sciences? I'm on the fence regarding stuff like ochem1 where i got an A- vs. something like precalc2 where I got an A. To me, the "accomplishment" is greater in ochem but I don't know if I should just shoot for all A-credits.
Well on VMCAS for CSU's prereqs there is a spot where you have to designate at least 12 credits of arts/humanities/social sciences, so you should probably pick classes for that requirement first. I would assume you cannot "double dip" by using an anthropology course toward the humanities requirement, and then also selecting it as an elective. When choosing classes for the "elective" requirement on VMCAS, choose at least 30 credits in classes like orgo, nutrition, anatomy, physiology, calc, upper level courses and anything else that doesn't fit under the other requirements. I haven't read anywhere that CSU calculates a prereq gpa, so I wouldn't worry about choosing pre-calc over orgo when assigning your prereqs, because as far as I know they look at the cumulative gpa, and both of those classes will be counted.
But I'm not totally sure, and it's my first time applying. I've just been choosing anything that fulfills the requirement (without double dipping) because I know they're going to see my full transcript, all my grades, and possibly calculate all my gpa's. I think assigning classes to the prereq requirement through VMCAS just makes it easier on the school to see that you did fulfill each requirement.
 
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What science classes count towards science gpa?
 
I'm not sure if anyone has asked this yet.. but when entering in experiences, should I put down the number of weeks as in from start date to end date, or number of weeks I actually worked there? I had a part-time job in college but I only worked during the semesters (I moved home during the breaks). So while I was an employee from March 2016-May 2017, I only worked probably around 40 weeks out of that entire time. Would it be ok if I put # weeks as 40? (and then I'd calculate the avg hours/week from the total hours I worked there, of course)
 
I'm not sure if anyone has asked this yet.. but when entering in experiences, should I put down the number of weeks as in from start date to end date, or number of weeks I actually worked there? I had a part-time job in college but I only worked during the semesters (I moved home during the breaks). So while I was an employee from March 2016-May 2017, I only worked probably around 40 weeks out of that entire time. Would it be ok if I put # weeks as 40? (and then I'd calculate the avg hours/week from the total hours I worked there, of course)

You would list the number of weeks you actually worked. You would also give the dates over which those weeks took place (March 2016-May 2017). This allows the committees to see the approximate amount of time you spent working each week, in addition to your commitment to work for over one year.
 
Hey everyone! random question, but does any know if Virginia Maryland requires you to specifically take 2 ochem labs? I took two lecture courses with one lab and wonder if that is satisfactory.... If not looks like my list just got narrowed down lol
 
Hey everyone! random question, but does any know if Virginia Maryland requires you to specifically take 2 ochem labs? I took two lecture courses with one lab and wonder if that is satisfactory.... If not looks like my list just got narrowed down lol
Contact the school personally. They’re the one evaluating your classes. If it was a combined lab, it could be fine since it’s the lab for both classes in one but maybe it won’t be. Contact the school for the official answer. They’re the only ones who can tell you if they’ll accept your classes or not.
 
Hey guys I SEARCHED THIS QUESTION (ie please don't flay me if it was asked somewhere) but are you adding intros and conclusions in your VMCAS "essays?" Mine have a small intros of 1-2 sentences but to be honest they're contributing only structure to the questions and no real content, at the cost of 300-400 precious characters. Any thoughts?
 
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I would also recommend making use of the readers while they are still available to get some opinions to help you out before everyone is too busy to help. Just PM anyone on the list from the most recent posting to see if they have some time to lend an eye. 🙂

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Hey guys I SEARCHED THIS QUESTION (ie please don't flay me if it was asked somewhere) but are you adding intros and conclusions in your VMCAS "essays?" Mine have a small intros of 1-2 sentences but to be honest they're contributing only structure to the questions and no real content, at the cost of 300-400 precious characters. Any thoughts?
Hard to say without taking a look at the essays themselves. It's good to have structure, but you also want to make sure you have space to fully answer the questions. I'd say a sentence of introduction is probably good, and no conclusion necessary imo.
 
I have taken the GRE twice. When I go to enter my "ETS Registration Code" on VMCAS, it asks for it for both separate tests. An online article I read said that each time you take the test you will have a different code, but I can only find one code online. Does each person just have one code or is it truly different for each time we take the test?


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If we are reapplying to the same vet school as last year, do we have to resubmit our GRE scores?
 
If we are reapplying to the same vet school as last year, do we have to resubmit our GRE scores?
If the school has a vmcas GRE code (where it shows up on that one “check status(?)” page on vmcas) versus the general school code, you shouldn’t have to. The schools I applied to that had one my first cycle I didn’t have to resend my second cycle.
If the gre is sent directly to the school, then you probably have to resend.
 
I have a question about the experience section. I have been an RVT for 4 years now, were a mixed animal practice. I work every aspect from large, exotics, and small animals. I also have been working with one of the doctors on advances reproduction practices. we have been doing embryo transfers in cattle and TCI in horses. My question is do I list everything separately? or all together? I also show dogs and am a member of my local kennel club. Does that go under animal experience? Thank you in advance.
 
I have a question about the experience section. I have been an RVT for 4 years now, were a mixed animal practice. I work every aspect from large, exotics, and small animals. I also have been working with one of the doctors on advances reproduction practices. we have been doing embryo transfers in cattle and TCI in horses. My question is do I list everything separately? or all together? I also show dogs and am a member of my local kennel club. Does that go under animal experience? Thank you in advance.
List the vet stuff all together as one. Showing dogs and stuff is animal experience
 
Does anyone know how to enter planned courses for Winter 2019? The VMCAS transcript entry page seems to have Fall 2018 as the last time period to enter courses. I want to wait and see if I get a conditional acceptance before taking the last prerequisite. Depending on the school, I'll either need to take Physics II or Algebra. Should I just enter them both as Winter 2018?
 
Does anyone know how to enter planned courses for Winter 2019? The VMCAS transcript entry page seems to have Fall 2018 as the last time period to enter courses. I want to wait and see if I get a conditional acceptance before taking the last prerequisite. Depending on the school, I'll either need to take Physics II or Algebra. Should I just enter them both as Winter 2018?
Nope there should be a place for those courses. If you enter them as winter 2018 then you would have had to take them this past year. They may call them Spring on vmcas instead of winter (my college called them winter but everywhere else uses spring for that same time period). I can’t remember what I put on my vmcas but don’t put them as winter 2018 because that would be in the past and you’d need grades.

Also, be aware that many schools won’t have acceptances out by the time classes would start in January, so you may not know if you get accepted before needing to enroll.
 
Does anyone know how to enter planned courses for Winter 2019? The VMCAS transcript entry page seems to have Fall 2018 as the last time period to enter courses. I want to wait and see if I get a conditional acceptance before taking the last prerequisite. Depending on the school, I'll either need to take Physics II or Algebra. Should I just enter them both as Winter 2018?
Do you have that school listed as only attending through fall 2018? That might be your problem now that I think about it.
 
Not sure if this is the right forum for this since it's not really a VMCAS rant, but still sort of a VMCAS rant.... I'm doing the supp for the royal vet college in the UK and I have to enter all of my experiences and classes again. by hand. I'm pretty sure RVC isn't the only school that requires this on their supplement because I nixed a few schools (that already weren't at the top of m super interested in) so that I didn't have to re-enter everything on their supplement.
why did I enter them all into VMCAS if schools are going to require me to enter them again?
 
Not sure if this is the right forum for this since it's not really a VMCAS rant, but still sort of a VMCAS rant.... I'm doing the supp for the royal vet college in the UK and I have to enter all of my experiences and classes again. by hand. I'm pretty sure RVC isn't the only school that requires this on their supplement because I nixed a few schools (that already weren't at the top of m super interested in) so that I didn't have to re-enter everything on their supplement.
why did I enter them all into VMCAS if schools are going to require me to enter them again?
Some schools just require it this way either in addition to VMCAS, or because they do not look at VMCAS for those things. University of Sydney does the same thing for some of their forms. Just the way it is.
 
Arghhhhhh... how am I supposed to keep my personal statement to 2000 characters?!

And then all these new sections I have to fill out with 1500 characters or less?!

So frustrating. Back in the day when I applied the last time, it was one statement, not 5 mini statements!!!
 
Another question I have: I'm a non-trad student and I have had probably a dozen part time jobs in the last ten years, should I include them all in my application or just include my steady jobs + vet-related stuff?
 
Looooooolllllllllll try keeping it under 1000 characters. That’s what they had it at last cycle.

Are. You. Kidding?!? That’s terrible!!!! Just give me a 5000 character limit and I’ll answer all your questions. Geez!
 
I've heard mixed responses on this but where would you guys put certifications? For example, I'm fear free certified. I also have an anesthesia monitoring certification through the practice I work at. I'm not sure if they belong in achievements or experiences.
 
I've heard mixed responses on this but where would you guys put certifications? For example, I'm fear free certified. I also have an anesthesia monitoring certification through the practice I work at. I'm not sure if they belong in achievements or experiences.
I would put them in achievements because it's more of an "above and beyond" thing imo
 
Is it a bad idea to submit my application a few days before the deadline? I'm confused by the verification process.
 
Is it a bad idea to submit my application a few days before the deadline? I'm confused by the verification process.

The verification process by VMCAS is mostly to verify that your transcript matches the classes you submitted, as well as that your legal info is true.

Verification can turn up mistakes anywhere on your application and if there are too many, it will be returned to you to fix. Then you can resubmit.

If the application is returned after the deadline for fixing, you cannot resubmit.
 
Does anyone know if it looks bad if one of your evaluators never submit your LOR? One of the veterinarians I asked originally agreed to do it but he just opened his own practice where he is the only doctor + doubles as the practice manager so I'm not 100% confident that the request will be fulfilled. The other three have all been submitted so this would just be an extra one, but does it look bad if schools can see that you requested one and they never wrote it?
 
Does anyone know if it looks bad if one of your evaluators never submit your LOR? One of the veterinarians I asked originally agreed to do it but he just opened his own practice where he is the only doctor + doubles as the practice manager so I'm not 100% confident that the request will be fulfilled. The other three have all been submitted so this would just be an extra one, but does it look bad if schools can see that you requested one and they never wrote it?
Have you given that veterinarian a reminder? It's super important to you, but for someone who just opened a practice, it's not going to be first on his mind so it might have just been forgotten. You can be very polite about it, and ask if he still has the time.

When I applied years ago, I had to withdraw one of my requests because I realized I was going to be getting the opposite of the positive, glowing letter I was expecting. I do not believe it hurt my chances for admission, as I got in.
 
i apologize if this is the wrong place to post but I can’t seem to find it on VMCAS. If I sent GRE scores to schools I applied to last year, do I need to resubmit them via GRE website? In other words, do I need to pay again to get the scores sent or do schools keep the official score they were sent during the last cycle I applied? I didn’t retake the GRE so the score is the same.

Side question, does the same go for Transcripts? I checked my VMCAS and it says everything is already on file despite me not sending a transcript for this year’s cycle.
 
i apologize if this is the wrong place to post but I can’t seem to find it on VMCAS. If I sent GRE scores to schools I applied to last year, do I need to resubmit them via GRE website? In other words, do I need to pay again to get the scores sent or do schools keep the official score they were sent during the last cycle I applied? I didn’t retake the GRE so the score is the same.

Side question, does the same go for Transcripts? I checked my VMCAS and it says everything is already on file despite me not sending a transcript for this year’s cycle.

I would check with VMCAs directly and if you're applying to some of the same schools as last cycle, I would contact them as well. I'm not sure how long they hold that sort of information for.
 
How much from high school should I be including? I feel silly talking about things I did 6+ years ago (I am a few years out of college). Figured I would include my 2 major extracurriculars and a couple awards/volunteer things, and leave off some clubs and irrelevant positions.
 
i apologize if this is the wrong place to post but I can’t seem to find it on VMCAS. If I sent GRE scores to schools I applied to last year, do I need to resubmit them via GRE website? In other words, do I need to pay again to get the scores sent or do schools keep the official score they were sent during the last cycle I applied? I didn’t retake the GRE so the score is the same.

Side question, does the same go for Transcripts? I checked my VMCAS and it says everything is already on file despite me not sending a transcript for this year’s cycle.
I emailed VMCAS about this and they said you do not need to send scores and transcripts again
 
For some reason I am having a hard time deciding how to list my experiences. For example, should I list a necropsy lab and what category does that fall into? Also, should I mention things like being in band in high school and how do you calculate the hours?
 
I emailed VMCAS about this and they said you do not need to send scores and transcripts again
UNLESS the school does not (or did not in the previous cycle) use a VMCAS GRE code! (It wouldn’t even show up on the check status page on vmcas if that was true, I just don’t want someone overlooking that)
And obviously, more classes at a school since last applying means new transcript
 
Have you given that veterinarian a reminder? It's super important to you, but for someone who just opened a practice, it's not going to be first on his mind so it might have just been forgotten. You can be very polite about it, and ask if he still has the time.

When I applied years ago, I had to withdraw one of my requests because I realized I was going to be getting the opposite of the positive, glowing letter I was expecting. I do not believe it hurt my chances for admission, as I got in.

We have talked about the whole letter process since I asked him but I guess I haven't sent him an official reminder so I will do that!

Does anyone know if our evaluators can submit their letters after the dates we set? For example, I put that the letters were due on September 1st when I requested them just so everything was done with time and I didn't have to wait until the very last second for everything to be in. Can they still submit up until the VMCAS deadline or will it just let them up until the 1st?
 
We have talked about the whole letter process since I asked him but I guess I haven't sent him an official reminder so I will do that!

Does anyone know if our evaluators can submit their letters after the dates we set? For example, I put that the letters were due on September 1st when I requested them just so everything was done with time and I didn't have to wait until the very last second for everything to be in. Can they still submit up until the VMCAS deadline or will it just let them up until the 1st?
They can still submit them up until the VMCAS deadline
 
For some reason I am having a hard time deciding how to list my experiences. For example, should I list a necropsy lab and what category does that fall into? Also, should I mention things like being in band in high school and how do you calculate the hours?
What kind of necropsy lab are we talking about? If it was supervised by a veterinarian, I'd consider it veterinary experience, if not I'd probably go with animal experience. Don't stress too much about how to categorize things, do your best to follow the chart in the VMCAS instructions (Experiences), but if a school disagrees with how you categorized something, they probably won't penalize you unless it's blatantly incorrect in an attempt to pad your hours somewhere.

I would definitely include band, things like that show that you're well-rounded! Just give your best estimate of the hours, again as long as it's not outrageous, schools probably aren't going to be looking closely at that number.
 
This is probably a dumb question, but I can't find my answer on the VMCAs help button:
None of my letter writers have their LORs turned in yet, but my application is done and I want to make sure I have time for my transcript entry to be reviewed before the deadline... Can I submit before they have their letters turned in?
 
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