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+1 SAMEoh hey im also on 5 waitlists lol
+1 SAMEoh hey im also on 5 waitlists lol
4 waitlists! God bless you my child Did you submit any LOIs or is the list ranked (so it wouldn’t matter anyways)?Hi everyone... just checking in (not sure how I didn't see this thread until now!). Planning on attend a DO school currently, but that would be tough for my significant other, and any of the 4 MD waitlists I'm on seem like they would be better, which is disheartening. Anyways, good luck everyone and heads up, since we're all in this together.
4 waitlists! God bless you my child Did you submit any LOIs or is the list ranked (so it wouldn’t matter anyways)?
Hi everyone... just checking in (not sure how I didn't see this thread until now!). Planning on attend a DO school currently, but that would be tough for my significant other, and any of the 4 MD waitlists I'm on seem like they would be better, which is disheartening. Anyways, good luck everyone and heads up, since we're all in this together.
There’s actually been less applicants overall. Someone mentioned that schools just did a better job of protecting yield but I don’t know how they corrdinated that on a mass scaleUgh this sucks! I’m sorry to hear you’re in this situation (and I know exactly how you feel, the pain is awful). I don’t know wtf happened with schools this year. Were there just more applicants or something? As far as I know, waitlist movement has never been this awful
Congrats! What school?I figured that I would never post this, but I did finally get accepted off a waitlist school! It does happen. It was getting so late and I pretty much thought that waitlist movement would be done by June, but it happened! Hang on everyone and best of luck. This forum has helped me a lot.
I figured that I would never post this, but I did finally get accepted off a waitlist school! It does happen. It was getting so late and I pretty much thought that waitlist movement would be done by June, but it happened! Hang on everyone and best of luck. This forum has helped me a lot.
YupIs it safe to assume that at this point, most classes are full and WL movement will only occur if someone randomly drops out?
Yeah, I'd like to hear from @gyngyn or someone else involved with admissions too!I was wondering if gyngyn or any other moderators could provide their input and insight
At this point, I do not think it is safe to assume anything. There are so many variables and most likely a great deal of misinformation (most of it probably not intentional) out on the forums. Many are talking about how different this cycle is and how the waitlist movement is baffling. I was wondering if gyngyn or any other moderators could provide their input and insight. I am sure may candidates would welcome their insight.
As proprietary admissions software has become almost universal, the ability to more precisely identify and recruit target candidates has made waitlists less volatile.Yeah, I'd like to hear from @gyngyn or someone else involved with admissions too!
As proprietary admissions software has become almost universal, the ability to more precisely identify and recruit target candidates has made waitlists less volatile.
A decade ago, it was madness. 5 years ago it became predictable, this year it has been pretty precise.
For those who like waitlist madness, next year will be a return to mayhem.
No amount of data management can overcome a lack of relible input.
Why would movement go back to madness if they were able to make accurate yield predictions this year? Were a lot of those yield predictions based on the National Acceptance report or is there something else to it?
Current admissions administrators can tell based on where applicants are holding acceptances the likelihood of matriculation (based on historical norms).Why would movement go back to madness if they were able to make accurate yield predictions this year? Were a lot of those yield predictions based on the National Acceptance report or is there something else to it?
Would you agree that, for this year, movement is probably over at most places unless someone suddenly drops out prior to orientation or something like that?Current admissions administrators can tell based on where applicants are holding acceptances the likelihood of matriculation (based on historical norms).
Next year we will have no data at all.
We will not even know if the folks who show up to orientation are coming.
As an illustration, there have been acceptances since Friday at UCLA and Davis. If those candidates had been holding acceptances at other schools (and preferred the new offer) there would be trickle down from those schools.Would you agree that, for this year, movement is probably over at most places unless someone suddenly drops out prior to orientation or something like that?
As an illustration, there have been acceptances since Friday at UCLA and Davis. If those candidates had been holding acceptances at other schools (and preferred the new offer) there would be trickle down from those schools.
If they were holding no acceptances, there would be little ripple effect.
You might be surprised how many fine candidates are holding no acceptances.I feel like since these are pretty top-tier schools, there would definitely be some trickle-down to middle/lower-tier schools? Or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part haha.
You might be surprised how many fine candidates are holding no acceptances.
Why don't schools consider offering very qualified waitlist candidates a spot in next years class? NYMC did it this year because the class was filled quickly and they didn't pull anyone off the waitlist...
Can you tell us how again did some rule get passed or changed to allow this madness? Who is benefitting in this situation or what’s the justification, because I can’t see how the new system is helpful to any school..Current admissions administrators can tell based on where applicants are holding acceptances the likelihood of matriculation (based on historical norms).
Next year we will have no data at all.
We will not even know if the folks who show up to orientation are coming.
Yes.If we are accepted off the waitlist and holding an acceptance at another school, is it safe practice to accept the new school and notify the other school via email by the end of the next day of my decision?
The DoJ sued a couple of undergrad schools citing anti trust laws.Can you tell us how again did some rule get passed or changed to allow this madness? Who is benefitting in this situation or what’s the justification, because I can’t see how the new system is helpful to any school..
Do you think with the added uncertainty that the new system will provide that there will be an actual advantage in applying to a school early decision. Obviously your chances are lower overall for an acceptance by going this route but will schools be more receptive and aggressive in taking early decision applicants?The DoJ sued a couple of undergrad schools citing anti trust laws.
The AAMC just dumped the traffic rules in (pre-emptive) capitulation.
Great question! Also would like to know the answer to thisDo you think with the added uncertainty that the new system will provide that there will be an actual advantage in applying to a school early decision. Obviously your chances are lower overall for an acceptance by going this route but will schools be more receptive and aggressive in taking early decision applicants?
It will be interesting to see but I still can't recommend this course if you have not been encouraged by the school to do so.Do you think with the added uncertainty that the new system will provide that there will be an actual advantage in applying to a school early decision. Obviously your chances are lower overall for an acceptance by going this route but will schools be more receptive and aggressive in taking early decision applicants?
Still on 3 WLs with 0 acceptances don’t know whether to do an MS or MBS program or scribe for the next year at this point.... feel like the chances of getting off the WL are virtually zero
Still on 3 WLs with 0 acceptances don’t know whether to do an MS or MBS program or scribe for the next year at this point.... feel like the chances of getting off the WL are virtually zero
Do you know if IS or OOS?Know someone that got off the WL at Alabama today
Still on 3 WLs with 0 acceptances don’t know whether to do an MS or MBS program or scribe for the next year at this point.... feel like the chances of getting off the WL are virtually zero
ISDo you know if IS or OOS?
I totally understand your situation, I'm on 2 waitlists and I just started an MS program just in case tooStill on 3 WLs with 0 acceptances don’t know whether to do an MS or MBS program or scribe for the next year at this point.... feel like the chances of getting off the WL are virtually zero
So one of my schools just sent an email saying wait list movement is over, essentially... sigh. Though it's good to be in the top 12% of interviewees? right? Idk. Feeling rather defeated.
I think at this point most schools have full classes, so waitlist movement will be pretty minimal but will likely still happen slowly over the summer as students drop their spots for other places and then need to be replaced.
to me, it seems that it would almost be an advantage to apply to this next cycle and take advantage of the madness that is about to take place. I'll be reapplying the cycle after this one unfortunately. by then, I'm sure there will be less madness to take advantage of. this could result in over acceptances and deferrment to the next years class which would be both good and bad.
SEVEN? Wow. The wait must have been insane. Congrats!!!I was on 7 MD waitlists and got into two MD schools in the past week including my top choice. Hang in there everyone!!!