Withdraw Completel from school?

[Nerdeka]

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2nd semester post-bacc, last semester 4.0 12 credits.
This semester 17 (+ easy A CC class) credits

And I'm breaking down. I'm so behind, I'm so stressed, my anxiety has never been this bad (which makes me more anxious).

If I buckled down, especially after spring break (a week away), I could get straight As. I'm pretty much getting all As but won't for long..

Not sure what to do.

 

[cactusman]

Does your school offer free mental health services? Either way, you should seek out treatment for anxiety ASAP.

 

[sammiesings]

I think you should read all the advice given to you on the other thread you created and didn't return to. There was a lot of good conversation and advice there and you chose to ignore it/didn't respond there.

 

[Nerdeka]

I think you should read all the advice given to you on the other thread you created and didn't return to. There was a lot of good conversation and advice there and you chose to ignore it/didn't respond there.

Honestly my situation is so different now. 🙁

 

[Flirt]

Start with getting help/talking to someone for your anxiety. It reads like an intense fear of failure to me but I'm not expert and you only know what brings it on. You may want to take off some of the pressure you have put on yourself as well. I know this matters, but you matter more.

 

[Goro]

What part of "yes, you should withdraw, and go see a therapist" do you not understand???

Honestly my situation is so different now. 🙁

 

[Nerdeka]

What part of "yes, you should withdraw, and go see a therapist" do you not understand???

Wasting thousands of dollars and ruining my transcript with Ws?

 

[TXMED_1695]

What are you wanting to read here? Either catch up over spring break, or drop the courses. At most universities, you have to have some pretty extreme circumstances to get a pass on the semester w/o a hit to your transcript. A chick that I took a lot of my pre-med courses with had something happen to her, and the university didn't care. Her daughter broke her arm, and she had to take her to an orthopedic surgeon, no health insurance, $1,000's in bills, and she missed 4 weeks. Admissions basically told her to speak to her professors to catch up (which is impossible). Once they take your money, it is really hard to get it back under any circumstances.

Wasting thousands of dollars and ruining my transcript with Ws?

 

[Goro]

An entire semester of Ws merely tells a story that life got in the way. That's 100% forgivable. What's not forgivable is you getting sicker. And on top of that, med schools want students who make good choices.

Do not look at this is a sign of weakness or loss of face. Continue on the path as is, you will never be a doctor.

Wasting thousands of dollars and ruining my transcript with Ws?

 

[Nerdeka]

An entire semester of Ws merely tells a story that life got in the way. That's 100% forgivable. What's not forgivable is you getting sicker. And on top of that, med schools want students who make good choices.

Do not look at this is a sign of weakness or loss of face. Continue on the path as is, you will never be a doctor.

So instead of getting As this semester, I should get all Ws?

 

[Goro]

You're the one who said that you were breaking down. Has your mood changed? How is your psyche right now? Can you make it to the end of the semester and ghat take some time off?????

So instead of getting As this semester, I should get all Ws?

 

[Nerdeka]

You're the one who said that you were breaking down. Has your mood changed? How is your psyche right now? Can you make it to the end of the semester and ghat take some time off?????

Considering I just got into a huge car accident with exams next week, terribly. 🙁

 

[cactusman]

If you still think you can get As and Bs, don't withdraw. But either way, you absolutely NEED to get treatment and you need to start now.

 

[Nerdeka]

I'll try to regroup and catch up over Spring Break... If things go south, I'll withdraw by the April deadline.

 

[Goro]

Do you think that you're in any condition to Ace exams????

Considering I just got into a huge car accident with exams next week, terribly. 🙁

 

[Nerdeka]

Do you think that you're in any condition to Ace exams????

no 🙁

 

[Lawpy]

Wasting thousands of dollars and ruining my transcript with Ws?

An entire semester of Ws merely tells a story that life got in the way. That's 100% forgivable. What's not forgivable is you getting sicker. And on top of that, med schools want students who make good choices.

Do not look at this is a sign of weakness or loss of face. Continue on the path as is, you will never be a doctor.

You're the one who said that you were breaking down. Has your mood changed? How is your psyche right now? Can you make it to the end of the semester and ghat take some time off?????

Do you think that you're in any condition to Ace exams????

OP, I very strongly recommend following Goro's advice to the letter.

 

[Nerdeka]

OP, I very strongly recommend following Goro's advice to the letter.

I know I should, I know. But the fact that I could get As and not waste 6k is very enticing..

 

[MareNostrummm]

People were flaming me in the last thread for offering the opposite view but whatever:

Like I said in your last thread, if you get all W's on your transcript what does this tell to adcoms.. Yeah its true they are not going to penalize or look down on you for having anxiety. However the bottom line is that it does not matter that you have anxiety, what matters is that you have anxiety but can overcome it. They would not look down on you if you had paranoid schizophrenia, but they still wouldn't accept you... All W's looks like a red flag that you would be at risk of failing medical school, especially if you are already in a post bacc program right now.

Despite having chronic anxiety, what would it take to show adcoms that you can handle a medical school curriculum? If you take all W's now you will have to work even harder later, to prove that you can handle it, otherwise they will not take a risk with you.
Is 1 year of straight A's enough to show them that you will not relapse? 2 years of straight A's? The people above in this thread are all recommending going for the W's but you have to look at the long run as well, and what the overall picture will look like when he finally applies.

I wouldn't W all of your classes.. maybe 1 or 2 but not all of them.

 

[Turkishking]

So instead of getting As this semester, I should get all Ws?

How many W's are we talking about?

 

[Turkishking]

People were flaming me in the last thread for offering the opposite view but whatever:

Like I said in your last thread, if you get all W's on your transcript what does this tell to adcoms.. Yeah its true they are not going to penalize or look down on you for having anxiety. However the bottom line is that it does not matter that you have anxiety, what matters is that you have anxiety but can overcome it. They would not look down on you if you had paranoid schizophrenia, but they still wouldn't accept you... All W's looks like a red flag that you would be at risk of failing medical school, especially if you are already in a post bacc program right now.

Despite having chronic anxiety, what would it take to show adcoms that you can handle a medical school curriculum? If you take all W's now you will have to work even harder later, to prove that you can handle it, otherwise they will not take a risk with you.
Is 1 year of straight A's enough to show them that you will not relapse? 2 years of straight A's? The people above in this thread are all recommending going for the W's but you have to look at the long run as well, and what the overall picture will look like when he finally applies.

I wouldn't W all of your classes.. maybe 1 or 2 but not all of them.

Yeah but things happen in life. Not everyone has a perfect life.

 

[MareNostrummm]

Yeah but things happen in life. Not everyone has a perfect life.

That is irrelevant. He still will have to show he can handle medical school, which is going to be even more work later if he has all W's. And his complaint was chronic anxiety last thread.. now its a car accident.

 

[Nerdeka]

People were flaming me in the last thread for offering the opposite view but whatever:

Like I said in your last thread, if you get all W's on your transcript what does this tell to adcoms.. Yeah its true they are not going to penalize or look down on you for having anxiety. However the bottom line is that it does not matter that you have anxiety, what matters is that you have anxiety but can overcome it. They would not look down on you if you had paranoid schizophrenia, but they still wouldn't accept you... All W's looks like a red flag that you would be at risk of failing medical school, especially if you are already in a post bacc program right now.

Despite having chronic anxiety, what would it take to show adcoms that you can handle a medical school curriculum? If you take all W's now you will have to work even harder later, to prove that you can handle it, otherwise they will not take a risk with you.
Is 1 year of straight A's enough to show them that you will not relapse? 2 years of straight A's? The people above in this thread are all recommending going for the W's but you have to look at the long run as well, and what the overall picture will look like when he finally applies.

I wouldn't W all of your classes.. maybe 1 or 2 but not all of them.

I'm taking 4 classes + 1 CC class.
Chem 2: 99 on first exam, decent on quizzes, just need to turn in lab reports. Professor is understanding, easy A....
Physics: 100 on H/W, meh on first exam but he said my percentage was considered an A.
Bio (300 level): 85 average on quizzes, 102/100 on first exam, next exam Wed.
Bio (300 level): A average on quizzes, did bad on first exam, but the lowest exam is dropped.
CC Bio:.. lol 100 on everything please.

 

[MareNostrummm]

I'm taking 4 classes + 1 CC class.
Chem 2: 99 on first exam, decent on quizzes, just need to turn in lab reports. Professor is understanding, easy A....
Physics: 100 on H/W, meh on first exam but he said my percentage was considered an A.
Bio (300 level): 85 average on quizzes, 102/100 on first exam, next exam Wed.
Bio (300 level): A average on quizzes, did bad on first exam, but the lowest exam is dropped.
CC Bio:.. lol 100 on everything please.

I don't see a reason to W all of your classes, unless you want more work down the line. Just drop the ones that are most at risk of not getting an A (I bolded them). The extra time to focus on your other classes will help a lot.

 

[deleted781806]

I would 100% take the advice of Goro, the AdCom, rather than that of Mare, the pre-med. Especially since it has been explicitly said that having an entire semester's worth of W's is preferable to only dropping a couple classes.

If you feel that you can pull of the semester without having a massive decrease in your mental health, then go for it. But, if you think that your academics are going to plummet due to your situation this semester, I think that withdrawing and getting help for your problems before tackling classes again next semester would be the best way to go.

 

[Nerdeka]

I really believe my breakdown was due to these damn labs... and once I turn them in for once they won't stop me from studying for my other classes. That being said, I REALLY reevaluated my current situation. Yes, I know I'm smart enough to study and do well. But I'm not able to right now and that's ok. And a year or two working a regular job and having a life while working on my mental health will be great for me.

 

[Goro]

Once the OP recovers, I'll bet that she'll ace the rest of her courses, and THAT will show us that she can handle med school, and make good choices as well.

That is irrelevant. He still will have to show he can handle medical school, which is going to be even more work later if he has all W's. And his complaint was chronic anxiety last thread.. now its a car accident.

 

[Turkishking]

Once the OP recovers, I'll bet that she'll ace the rest of her courses, and THAT will show us that she can handle med school, and make good choices as well.

I agree.

 

[MareNostrummm]

Once the OP recovers, I'll bet that she'll ace the rest of her courses, and THAT will show us that she can handle med school, and make good choices as well.

She* still doesn't have to withdraw ALL of her classes... Keep the easy A's to pad her GPA when she applies later on? She already paid for them..

 

[Goro]

Of the classes you're taking, do you think you can manage staying in one? two? three?

I really believe my breakdown was due to these damn labs... and once I turn them in for once they won't stop me from studying for my other classes. That being said, I REALLY reevaluated my current situation. Yes, I know I'm smart enough to study and do well. But I'm not able to right now and that's ok. And a year or two working a regular job and having a life while working on my mental health will be great for me.

 

[MusicDOc124]

Mental health (even if it means W's or less than A's but still passing) >>>>>>>>>> As >> Ws

 

[Nerdeka]

Mental health (even if it means W's or less than A's but still passing) >>>>>>>>>> As >> Ws

I know. But it's 2 months.

 

[Pagan FutureDoc]

I know. But it's 2 months.

Two months is an eternity in your current state.

 

[MusicDOc124]

I know. But it's 2 months.

Bad things can happen in a matter of seconds when not in a good state of mind. Take care of yourself first. Always. You can't take care of someone else if you can't take care of yourself.

 

[blackroses]

I really believe my breakdown was due to these damn labs... and once I turn them in for once they won't stop me from studying for my other classes. That being said, I REALLY reevaluated my current situation. Yes, I know I'm smart enough to study and do well. But I'm not able to right now and that's ok. And a year or two working a regular job and having a life while working on my mental health will be great for me.

You're bouncing back and forth by the hour on whether or not you can handle finishing this semester. That is an obvious indication you cannot do it. You have heard from multiple people now that for the sake of your mental health AND your GPA, you should withdraw and focus on your mental health until you're ready to take on courses again. For the sake of your mental health, GPA, and chances at getting into medical school, listen to the advice you've been given repeatedly.

 

[Nerdeka]

This school is a joke compared to my university. I can do it.. 😛 I need support, not telling me to withdraw. 🙁

 

[MusicDOc124]

This school is a joke compared to my university. I can do it.. 😛 I need support, not telling me to withdraw. 🙁

The school is a joke, but you're behind, stressed, and having the worst anxiety you've ever had? Again, we're not saying you can't do it... we're saying your health is more important than doing it [now].

I get that you need support, but if getting advice on here isn't suiting that, you may be looking in the wrong area for the support you're seemingly seeking. Have you talked to your friends, family, SO, etc about this? Classmates even? Sometimes those resources are much better than an online forum.

 

[MareNostrummm]

This school is a joke compared to my university. I can do it.. 😛 I need support, not telling me to withdraw. 🙁

Take the middle ground... and cut your losses. Just drop some of your classes but not all? Then in a couple weeks if you still can't handle it drop the rest?

 

[Meowgical]

Ask if your professors about getting an Incomplete. Then in the following semester (if that gives you enough time), you return to the class and finish from where you left off. You might have to sit through the whole class again but I'm not sure. I don't think an Incomplete stays on your transcript once you actually finish the course.

 

[Nerdeka]

Ask if your professors about getting an Incomplete. Then in the following semester (if that gives you enough time), you return to the class and finish from where you left off. You might have to sit through the whole class again but I'm not sure. I don't think an Incomplete stays on your transcript once you actually finish the course.

That is a good idea, but I really don't know at this point.

 

[Nerdeka]

I think I will be withdrawing from the university... @Goro Is 5 Ws really better than 1-2Ws with mostly As?

 

[Pagan FutureDoc]

I think I will be withdrawing from the university... @Goro Is 5 Ws really better than 1-2Ws with mostly As?

It's not about the number of Ws. As has been said previously in this thread, a semester of nothing but Ws indicates life got in the way somehow and you made a mature decision to focus on getting your affairs in order rather than trying to power through and giving neither your life or the course work the attention they deserve.

 

[Goro]

This.

It's not about the number of Ws. As has been said previously in this thread, a semester of nothing but Ws indicates life got in the way somehow and you made a mature decision to focus on getting your affairs in order rather than trying to power through and giving neither your life or the course work the attention they deserve.

 

[Nerdeka]

It's not about the number of Ws. As has been said previously in this thread, a semester of nothing but Ws indicates life got in the way somehow and you made a mature decision to focus on getting your affairs in order rather than trying to power through and giving neither your life or the course work the attention they deserve.

Yes, that's why I asked. Because some of my classes are given As no matter what... 6 thousand dollars down the drain..

 

[Sardinia]

@Nerdeka What do you want me to type, because I don't think anything I type actually matters. I just think it's a shame that you really think that your break down is due to taking the Bio 300 labs when you jumped immediately into the post-bac after finishing a B.S. with a 3.1-3.2 GPA. Insisting initially nine months ago that you could balance working 40 hours with 20-21 credits in lieu of my comment suggesting otherwise. The reason you also chose to withdraw all 5 classes and to put it down as life circumstances is because the classes you are currently getting A's in are classes that you are retaking for the second time.

We might as well consider it a third time. Chemistry and physics classes in college, MCAT preparation on both those topics, and then retaking those classes? Of course it's going to be easy when you've been reviewing the material over and over and over again. The 300 level courses that are giving you trouble are perhaps the most authentic indicator that you aren't a 4.0 student and I can only interpret your stress response as you also coming to the realization that you didn't develop the tools needed to adapt since you graduated in order to come out successful.

This is not the loss of a 6k investment. You did not just have a freak out because of the labs your are currently taking this semester. You have written more than multiple threads about these topics over the span of months in order to seek outside validation for decisions you knew had dubious outcomes. There is a reason why I suggested you that actually pour yourself into the work environment. It's because I had hoped that dedicating yourself into a new culture would inoculate you from all the academic obsession that is typical of peter pan graduates.

The only advice is that I would double down on talking with your mother and having her understand your passion and what the plan will be going forward. I would suggest that you focus on your immediate relationships in real life because it seems like the road ahead of you will be too long and arduous for anyone on this site to even begin to understand. Also don't waste your time responding to this post. I will not read it. I hope that you spend the time on a more constructive endeavor.

 

[Sardinia]

One last thing. The reason why I advise individuals, especially young adults who are beginning this grand journey outside of academia to involve their parents as much as possible is because more often than not the reason why they are hard to deal with is because they care. The other pre-meds on sdn do not care about you. If their advice jettisons your future down the drain, they give 0 ****s. I find that people who frequently use the internet as a medium to receive feedback and validate their life decisions do so because they are under the pretense that they are extracting value and establishing relationships. In truth when you are dealing with individuals who have no invested interest or liability in your future, you are more often not wasting resources that could be allocated to many other endeavors.

 

[Nerdeka]

@Nerdeka What do you want me to type, because I don't think anything I type actually matters. I just think it's a shame that you really think that your break down is due to taking the Bio 300 labs when you jumped immediately into the post-bac after finishing a B.S. with a 3.1-3.2 GPA. Insisting initially nine months ago that you could balance working 40 hours with 20-21 credits in lieu of my comment suggesting otherwise. The reason you also chose to withdraw all 5 classes and to put it down as life circumstances is because the classes you are currently getting A's in are classes that you are retaking for the second time.

We might as well consider it a third time. Chemistry and physics classes in college, MCAT preparation on both those topics, and then retaking those classes? Of course it's going to be easy when you've been reviewing the material over and over and over again. The 300 level courses that are giving you trouble are perhaps the most authentic indicator that you aren't a 4.0 student and I can only interpret your stress response as you also coming to the realization that you didn't develop the tools needed to adapt since you graduated in order to come out successful.

This is not the loss of a 6k investment. You did not just have a freak out because of the labs your are currently taking this semester. You have written more than multiple threads about these topics over the span of months in order to seek outside validation for decisions you knew had dubious outcomes. There is a reason why I suggested you that actually pour yourself into the work environment. It's because I had hoped that dedicating yourself into a new culture would inoculate you from all the academic obsession that is typical of peter pan graduates.

The only advice is that I would double down on talking with your mother and having her understand your passion and what the plan will be going forward. I would suggest that you focus on your immediate relationships in real life because it seems like the road ahead of you will be too long and arduous for anyone on this site to even begin to understand. Also don't waste your time responding to this post. I will not read it. I hope that you spend the time on a more constructive endeavor.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but my breakdown was not due to the rigor of 300 level Bios. This school is a joke when compared to my other school. For example, I got a 102 on my Bio exam having never opened the book and barely glanced at the slides. My most rigorous classes ARE those that I'm retaking (Chem/Phys) and that's simply due to the workload (busy work at ****ty schools, only thing I miss about my "all exam-based" grades). I got a 4.0 last semester without trying. After just taking my Physics exam and pretty sure I got 100, I don't think I will be withdrawing at all. I'm capable of doing well as long as I actually do the work.

 

[Fortyfive]

its really bugging me to see the word "Completely" misspelled in the title 🙁

 

[Nerdeka]

its really bugging me to see the word "Completely" misspelled in the title 🙁

Me too. 🙁

 

[Nerdeka]

Update:
Physics Exam: ~100...
Bio 300 Exam: 97
Acing Chem tomorrow...

Yeah I'm not dropping ****. As soon as I finish these labs and study lightly for my other 300 level over break, I'm right on path to getting a 4.0.
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎