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[mizchiefmanaged]

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So they tried too? Are you actually dying?

Someone protected me last night. I was popular, apparently.

 

[Coopah]

Someone protected me last night. I was popular, apparently.

Huh wow cool

 

[dolphin106258]

I think I agree with you that it doesn’t make much sense as a wolf move because why even bring something like that up when she would obviously get side eyed a lot when pippy flipped village with an ability

I agree as well but it still doesn’t make sense to me why BBC would use it or bring it up because it just drew more attention to Pippy. Idk I’m trying to wrap my head around it and decide how I ultimately feel about BBC. Barks this time around feels much more village to me! AM obvs is still village in my mind as well as frosty sparrow she seems to be genuinely wolf hunting. I’m still not liking mutts contributions and not really answer to my question around MsPro. I’ll go ahead and vote now

Lynch mutts

 

[dolphin106258]

*******lynch Dolphin*******

Let’s see if today is a better day.

Wow from you what a high honor 😛 I’ll try to be nicer today. Now that I’m a day removed from my anger.

 

[dolphin106258]

I agree as well but it still doesn’t make sense to me why BBC would use it or bring it up because it just drew more attention to Pippy. Idk I’m trying to wrap my head around it and decide how I ultimately feel about BBC. Barks this time around feels much more village to me! AM obvs is still village in my mind as well as frosty sparrow she seems to be genuinely wolf hunting. I’m still not liking mutts contributions and not really answer to my question around MsPro. I’ll go ahead and vote now

Lynch mutts

Also to add to this for myself, Miz is village, coops I have neutral to village-ish. Still unsure about mixy her vote on MsPro didn’t look good after the fact but I’m not sure if I’m convinced. Paws is hard for me because she feels super village to me but when I feel that way I’m wrong...sooo 😕

 

[Coopah]

I agree as well but it still doesn’t make sense to me why BBC would use it or bring it up because it just drew more attention to Pippy. Idk I’m trying to wrap my head around it and decide how I ultimately feel about BBC. Barks this time around feels much more village to me! AM obvs is still village in my mind as well as frosty sparrow she seems to be genuinely wolf hunting. I’m still not liking mutts contributions and not really answer to my question around MsPro. I’ll go ahead and vote now

Lynch mutts

As far as the BBC/fern thing, I don't think it would make sense for her to do that as a wolf. If she was a wolf she would just put in wolfchat hey guys I think Pip has a PR! But from a confused villager standpoint it makes perfect sense. So I'm thinking we should stay away from that front.

 

[dolphin106258]

As far as the BBC/fern thing, I don't think it would make sense for her to do that as a wolf. If she was a wolf she would just put in wolfchat hey guys I think Pip has a PR! But from a confused villager standpoint it makes perfect sense. So I'm thinking we should stay away from that front.

Yeah, I agree but I’m also too emotional for my own good and feel bad for Pippy being dead so I was trying to go back and look at the interaction to be sure.

 

[dolphin106258]

MsP is going to be a wolf or a PR, hoping they had the sense to reveal if they were a village PR

Nav, that's never happening.

This interaction just pings my feels, idk exactly why, obviously not so much on the AM front as Nav, it’s just ugh I don’t know. But it’s quoted for my benefit.

@Navilly now that we know MsP was village can you give some of your reasoning?

Lol whoops I saw Mixy ask this and Nav responded but I didn’t quote the response. In the last game Nav acted waaaay more confident on the MsPro front so idk why he acted more unsure and just felt more convenient since it was partially his doing that there was so much shade on Pippy. And makes the other interaction with AM feel weirder.

You are overreacting. It’s innocuous leading. Not cheating in any sense of the world. It’s mostly NAI, but I was trying to fight back and provide a different perspective to that interpretation of that rule and make it try and be a thing. I was bread crumbing just as much, my goal was a villager interpretation.

Also I didn’t comment on it last night because I wanted it to be dropped but Pippy is gone now, so I’m gonna say I don’t know how you think you could provide a different perspective it looked pretty cut and dry to me in the rules and it took you awhile into the argument to go OH WAIT it’s mostly NAI. Like okay. Just major sketch for you right now.

 

[muttmanager]

Catching up now but, also at work -

 

[muttmanager]

I agree as well but it still doesn’t make sense to me why BBC would use it or bring it up because it just drew more attention to Pippy. Idk I’m trying to wrap my head around it and decide how I ultimately feel about BBC. Barks this time around feels much more village to me! AM obvs is still village in my mind as well as frosty sparrow she seems to be genuinely wolf hunting. I’m still not liking mutts contributions and not really answer to my question around MsPro. I’ll go ahead and vote now

Lynch mutts

Did you have another question bc my reply to Ms P was for you as well.
You were asking why I was voting for her through a shady implicating post, no?

 

[Coopah]

This interaction just pings my feels, idk exactly why, obviously not so much on the AM front as Nav, it’s just ugh I don’t know. But it’s quoted for my benefit.

Lol whoops I saw Mixy ask this and Nav responded but I didn’t quote the response. In the last game Nav acted waaaay more confident on the MsPro front so idk why he acted more unsure and just felt more convenient since it was partially his doing that there was so much shade on Pippy. And makes the other interaction with AM feel weirder.

Also I didn’t comment on it last night because I wanted it to be dropped but Pippy is gone now, so I’m gonna say I don’t know how you think you could provide a different perspective it looked pretty cut and dry to me in the rules and it took you awhile into the argument to go OH WAIT it’s mostly NAI. Like okay. Just major sketch for you right now.

So Nav admitted to understanding completely what was going on and all of that is just manipulation. He was trying to manipulate the mods and the players to do what he wanted.

 

[muttmanager]

What is your interpretation of her response?

Didn't love her reply and am fine that I stayed on her vote. Unfortunately it was wrong.

 

[Coopah]

Did you have another question bc my reply to Ms P was for you as well.
You were asking why I was voting for her through a shady implicating post, no?

I would like to know why you were voting Ms. P and never responded to me yesterday

 

[dolphin106258]

Did you have another question bc my reply to Ms P was for you as well.
You were asking why I was voting for her through a shady implicating post, no?

Oh didn’t know the bottom part was for me that’s my bad.
And no, it’s not shade if it’s true, you didn’t have many content posts, and you didn’t provide an explanation for your MsPro vote. I said in my post I am assuming so CORRECT ME. You can do this thing where you correct me and I move on. That’s fine if it was a reaction test, it definitely didn’t come across that way, to me.

 

[dolphin106258]

Not sure I said that but cool assumptionJust wanted to see how you'd react to some pressure

Also you said it was pressure but I’m one of those people who thinks maybe you should tag people if they’re so called pressure votes, so ya know still don’t like that aspect. When you voted this you also created a three way tie at that point.

 

[dolphin106258]

Didn't love her reply and am fine that I stayed on her vote. Unfortunately it was wrong.

If you look at her response it wasn’t really an unreasonable question to ask, at least IMO. Can you explain what kind of response you were hoping to get out of her?

Edit: took out the also at the beginning because I NEED to stop saying it so much it gets repetitive.

 

[Coopah]

Lynch mutts

 

[mypetmoose]

Didn’t do their tell in the first day, I usually wait on it but didn’t want pippygoing down, didn’t want a tie without knowing tie rules.

Remember when you instigated a 3 way tie not too long ago?

 

[StartingoverVet]

Someone protected me last night. I was popular, apparently.

You were protected AND poisoned. That is hard to parse out. But there are no strange poisoning roles, and if protected how are you poisoned? My head hurts.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You were protected AND poisoned. That is hard to parse out. But there are no strange poisoning roles, and if protected how are you poisoned? My head hurts.

Likely flair. And, as it said in the rules, only the target is being notified of actions in the game.

 

[StartingoverVet]

As far as the BBC/fern thing, I don't think it would make sense for her to do that as a wolf. If she was a wolf she would just put in wolfchat hey guys I think Pip has a PR! But from a confused villager standpoint it makes perfect sense. So I'm thinking we should stay away from that front.

I’ve read this a few times and not sure I agree.

Why wouldn’t wolves want to get the village to do their dirty work. That is what wolves do, throw suspicions around, and confuse us. And although I think Nav fits the bill of an alpha more, an alpha certainly could take more chances like that.

Also, unrelated point, I am beginning to hate lists that rank wolfiness of every player. It starts making lists for the wolves to choose from to kill least sketch players. Sure wolves will do that anyway, but why make it easy. IMO, list a few wolfy people and keep the rest to yourself.

 

[Lawpy]

D2 We Are Out of Wheatgrass Today Lynch Tally

Allie (1) - AM
Ferny (1) - Mixy
Navs (1) - Frosty
Mixy (1) - Mizzy
dolphino (1) - Navs
mutts (2) - dolphino, Coops


7/14 voting

Lynch close at 10 PM EST

 

[StartingoverVet]

Likely flair. And, as it said in the rules, only the target is being notified of actions in the game.

Flair for what though. Proetection through poisoning? Don’t bother replying if you don’t want as it Doesn’t seem so important right now, but illogical modding is a trigger for me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Flair for what though. Proetection through poisoning? Don’t bother replying if you don’t want as it Doesn’t seem so important right now, but illogical modding is a trigger for me.

Attack = poisoning. Protection = protect.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

You were protected AND poisoned. That is hard to parse out. But there are no strange poisoning roles, and if protected how are you poisoned? My head hurts.

It was an attempted poisoning. I’m guessing that was the second NK the wolves got to do based on the wording. Someone gave me a north face to wear so I was nice and warm all night and protected from poisoned cheesecake

 

[muttmanager]

Oh didn’t know the bottom part was for me that’s my bad.
And no, it’s not shade if it’s true, you didn’t have many content posts, and you didn’t provide an explanation for your MsPro vote. I said in my post I am assuming so CORRECT ME. You can do this thing where you correct me and I move on. That’s fine if it was a reaction test, it definitely didn’t come across that way, to me.

Ideally you don't flag it's a reaction test. It was shade bc you assumption was inflammatory and wrong. All you had to ask was why or allow the situation to play out with her replying or not replying.

Also you said it was pressure but I’m one of those people who thinks maybe you should tag people if they’re so called pressure votes, so ya know still don’t like that aspect. When you voted this you also created a three way tie at that point.

Agree to disagree. If you're lurking you'll see your name. If you're tagged you're, you could be replying to the notification - if I am calling someone out I will tag them. (general you, not you specifically)
It was early enough for a tie to be broken, as it was - more shade I see

If you look at her response it wasn’t really an unreasonable question to ask, at least IMO. Can you explain what kind of response you were hoping to get out of her?

Edit: took out the also at the beginning because I NEED to stop saying it so much it gets repetitive.

Something that would make me lean her village

 

[muttmanager]

I would like to know why you were voting Ms. P and never responded to me yesterday

Why? because she's following what she does every game?

This question?
This was why-

Just wanted to see how you'd react to some pressure

 

[StartingoverVet]

I got called in for work (grump,grump) won’t be back till after 9pm EDT So gonna throw my vote in now...

I wanna Lynch Nav..His play is sketchiest. I am reluctant to Lynch him cause he seems most likely to be alpha, and this would be a wasted Lynch,.

Unfortunately fern is also more likely an alpha based on play than vanilla wolf.

I could go with crack some egg theory but instead will stay with Mixy. Another player with too much sketch for me to ignore for now.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Lynch mixy

OT for AM: How can someone be poisoned while protected? That is where I am confused. Should have been not poisoned but protected.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch mixy

OT for AM: How can someone be poisoned while protected? That is where I am confused. Should have been not poisoned but protected.

Well, the latter is what would've happened. Some mods just like to empasize on every little action even if unsuccessful.

 

[dolphin106258]

Ideally you don't flag it's a reaction test. It was shade bc you assumption was inflammatory and wrong. All you had to ask was why or allow the situation to play out with her replying or not replying.


Agree to disagree. If you're lurking you'll see your name. If you're tagged you're, you could be replying to the notification - if I am calling someone out I will tag them. (general you, not you specifically)
It was early enough for a tie to be broken, as it was - more shade I see


Something that would make me lean her village

The first part assumes that I’m in your brain and know you’re trying to do something so I adjust my play accordingly. I have no idea what your intentions are because I don’t know your affiliation. I’m not going to adjust my play to suit your fancy. It looks and still looks to me like you were calling her out for not posting, saying I was waiting for a response or reaction is an easy claim to make especially if you were “looking for a response to lean her village”. That sounds like you don’t even know what kind of response you were expecting.

 

[deleted867257]

Back from CE, grabbing lunch, will sit down soon and go through everything that’s happened thus far.

 

[dolphin106258]

Agree to disagree. If you're lurking you'll see your name. If you're tagged you're, you could be replying to the notification - if I am calling someone out I will tag them. (general you, not you specifically)
It was early enough for a tie to be broken, as it was - more shade I see

No not shade. Facts. That is what happened. You came on later close to 9 I believe and said It was pressure, didn’t elaborate if you were satisfied or unsatisfied and just left your vote. I am truly not trying to shade you just understand, I don’t know what the point of a reaction test is, if you don’t allude to how you feel afterwards. Especially with the large tie still going on ~1hr before close, did that mean MsPro was reading the same as the other three people also tied for lynch?

 

[Coopah]

I’ve read this a few times and not sure I agree.

Why wouldn’t wolves want to get the village to do their dirty work. That is what wolves do, throw suspicions around, and confuse us. And although I think Nav fits the bill of an alpha more, an alpha certainly could take more chances like that.

Also, unrelated point, I am beginning to hate lists that rank wolfiness of every player. It starts making lists for the wolves to choose from to kill least sketch players. Sure wolves will do that anyway, but why make it easy. IMO, list a few wolfy people and keep the rest to yourself.

Because of the flack they would inevitably get afterwards. Just my interpretation so feel free to disagree but unless it's something crazy like a Nav wolf pack (possible) I don't see this as a high probability

 

[Coopah]

For what it's worth @Navilly I know you go hard during games and I appreciate that and you and I hope my comments in anger don't affect the fun you're having.

 

[Coopah]

This question?
This was why-

Yeah that's not much of a reason, I'm not sure what you were expecting because

Something that would make me lean her village

Doesn't really cut it.

 

[mypetmoose]

Someone tried to poison my cheesecake.

Edit: I’m assuming cheesecake refers to Cheesecake Factory from the write up.

If Nav was a wolf would he kill you early?

Same logic of what I do with miz. When I think they are a wolf/Wolfy, I don’t vote for them off the bat, I just have them in my low wolf reads, don’t vouch for them, and watch their interactions to find more wolves in the process. I will still point out sketchy stuff they do in case I die.

@mizchiefmanaged does he actually do this?

Because of the flack they would inevitably get afterwards. Just my interpretation so feel free to disagree but unless it's something crazy like a Nav wolf pack (possible) I don't see this as a high probability

What do you mean by "Nav wolf pack"?

 

[Coopah]

If Nav was a wolf would he kill you early?


@mizchiefmanaged does he actually do this?


What do you mean by "Nav wolf pack"?

A wolf pack with Nav in it and his crazy schemes

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

If Nav was a wolf would he kill you early?


@mizchiefmanaged does he actually do this?


What do you mean by "Nav wolf pack"?

He generally wouldn’t kill me off early however if everyone else wants to kill me early he won’t keep me around just to keep me around. So possibly.

What he said about how he treats me the first few days is accurate with my meta for him.

 

[mypetmoose]

He generally wouldn’t kill me off early however if everyone else wants to kill me early he won’t keep me around just to keep me around. So possibly.

What he said about how he treats me the first few days is accurate with my meta for him.

That said, you said that you have him in the medium wolfiness category?

 

[deleted867257]

MsP is going to be a wolf or a PR, hoping they had the sense to reveal if they were a village PR

Wouldn't reveal village PR since that's not allowed in this game. Not sure how much role reveal would help here.

This could be a bit retaliatory, or it could be that she recognized that since she was a PR and it was clearly stated in the rules post that PRs and Wolves get their roles first that this was fishy at worst and very risky wolfhunting at best... but now actually thinking about it I'm not sure how much sense it would make for Fern to say this if she was a wolf...

Because if Fern was a wolf and saw a post like that, why would she call Pippy out on thread? The wolves would have just known that she was a PR (since she got a role early and they knew she wasn't one of them) and could have just NK'd her...

Whether it was wolfy or not, I'm not sure, but this is a scary risky move for Fern even if she is village...I think I'm talking in circles... what do you guys think?

(Did this get answered?)

Definitely agreed that it's a risky move either way to bring it up.. shortly after I saw her post initially I made a comment that if that claimed post happened it meant ww or village PR, which I would think would want to make someone more cautious before deciding to lynch.. especially because it was clearly stated in the rules.
Definitely earns some sketch points, but not sure how much sketch could be generated from that. Like others have mentioned, it'd be a silly ww move because once Pippy flipped PR, it would make all eyes point at her.

I got called in for work (grump,grump) won’t be back till after 9pm EDT So gonna throw my vote in now...

I wanna Lynch Nav..His play is sketchiest. I am reluctant to Lynch him cause he seems most likely to be alpha, and this would be a wasted Lynch,.

Unfortunately fern is also more likely an alpha based on play than vanilla wolf.

I could go with crack some egg theory but instead will stay with Mixy. Another player with too much sketch for me to ignore for now.

I have Nav and Fern as ww leans currently. Points that either could be alpha is definitely fair, but based on play thus far, I'd lean more towards Nav being alpha. If Mixy flips village then we'd just take care of another villager for the wws, can someone answer if this is worth doing instead of taking our chances with a fern vs. Nav lynch with one of them possibly being Alpha.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

If Nav was a wolf would he kill you early?


@mizchiefmanaged does he actually do this?


What do you mean by "Nav wolf pack"?

He generally wouldn’t kill me off early however if everyone else wants to kill me early he won’t keep me around just to keep me around.

That said, you said that you have him in the medium wolfiness category?

Yes. Regardless of what he normally does or not, he’s an incredibly tricky wolf and some of his actions have rubbed me the wrong way a bit. He’s very good at knowing how he normally acts and could easily be ‘pretending.’

Edit: idk why the top part posted twice.

 

[Barkley13]

Hmm I’m thinking

Lynch nav

Idk about him being alpha since I think he’d be bold either way lol

 

[Coopah]

Wouldn't reveal village PR since that's not allowed in this game. Not sure how much role reveal would help here.



Definitely agreed that it's a risky move either way to bring it up.. shortly after I saw her post initially I made a comment that if that claimed post happened it meant ww or village PR, which I would think would want to make someone more cautious before deciding to lynch.. especially because it was clearly stated in the rules.
Definitely earns some sketch points, but not sure how much sketch could be generated from that. Like others have mentioned, it'd be a silly ww move because once Pippy flipped PR, it would make all eyes point at her.




I have Nav and Fern as ww leans currently. Points that either could be alpha is definitely fair, but based on play thus far, I'd lean more towards Nav being alpha. If Mixy flips village then we'd just take care of another villager for the wws, can someone answer if this is worth doing instead of taking our chances with a fern vs. Nav lynch with one of them possibly being Alpha.

Not voting for someone because they "might be an alpha" is stupid. Vote and find out then adjust accordingly

 

[Coopah]

@muttmanager what reaction would have made you feel better about Ms P?

 

[deleted867257]

Not voting for someone because they "might be an alpha" is stupid. Vote and find out then adjust accordingly

That was my thought, I’d rather vote and find an alpha than vote and end up with another dead villager. I wouldn’t consider a lynch on an alpha a waste lynch as suggested previously.
Wanted to get opinions on if that’s a fair thought, make sure I’m not thinking silly.

 

[Barkley13]

That was my thought, I’d rather vote and find an alpha than vote and end up with another dead villager. I wouldn’t consider a lynch on an alpha a waste lynch as suggested previously.
Wanted to get opinions on if that’s a fair thought, make sure I’m not thinking silly.

Yep I think it’s better to figure it out then wait to vote there and leave it as a question mark

 

[mypetmoose]

Wanting more words/reads from Fern. That whole situation is wifom...

Mixy feels neutral to me. That thing with the knowing Pip was a gossip is NAI bc there is no way to know. Wolf or Village. Its not possible to know, so anyone using that in their reasoning needs to find a better reason. But with what Coopah said about the gossip using its ability to clear themselves, I wonder if even Mixy's blind suggestion was enough to encourage a wolf kill... still NAI tho

Willing to see where this goes.
Lynch Navilly

 

[Navilly]

Being real I am pretty okay with this scenario right now. Rounds and then an emergency shift so I am not going to be able to defend much at all

 

[Coopah]

Is AM playing this game? Yo @Animal Midwife what are your thoughts on Nav?