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Well, most people don't want to lynch Someone with an important role.

Guys, does he really scream sneaky wolf to you???
 
I'll vote for shortnsweet, just so I can get that much closer to not dying...

Not being clever (at the moment), just clueless.
 
johnnydrama said:
To be honest, this is my first WW game so I wouldn't even really know how to defend myself. Trying to read through the forum now to catch up, but pretty far behind.

I suppose if someone has to be lynched it makes sense for it to be me since I've invested the least time... Short first game though. :/
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One way to defend yourself would be to say what your role was. You don't even have to say the details, just the character name is fine. We just don't want to lynch a good guy, especially not one with an important role.
 
Lissarae06 said:
One way to defend yourself would be to say what your role was. You don't even have to say the details, just the character name is fine. We just don't want to lynch a good guy, especially not one with an important role.
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Do we have a list of the roles anywhere? I wouldn't even know if someone were good or bad based off of their character name alone. Almost every character is both good and bad (except for the noble ones who die early).
 
And what's the point of teams? (Really a complete noob, sorry. Just couldn't resist the GoT theme.)
 
johnnydrama said:
And what's the point of teams? (Really a complete noob, sorry. Just couldn't resist the GoT theme.)
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There isn't a list of roles. That's are job to find out. Point of the teams is that you discuss with your members who can possibly be a wolf. But wolves are dispersed throughout so be careful what you say
 
johnnydrama said:
Do we have a list of the roles anywhere? I wouldn't even know if someone were good or bad based off of their character name alone. Almost every character is both good and bad (except for the noble ones who die early).
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We don't have a list but are trying to base it off what people with GoT knowledge think.

johnnydrama said:
And what's the point of teams? (Really a complete noob, sorry. Just couldn't resist the GoT theme.)
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You can PM your teammates. Don't be super loyal to them though because any of them could be a wolf trying to pump info from you.
 
Unless of course his teammates are wolves.
 
johnnydrama said:
I'll vote for shortnsweet, just so I can get that much closer to not dying...
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TW and Lissa are doing a good job of answering your questions. Aside from those, you still need to say "lynch" for your vote to count -- i.e. lynch cuitlamiztli.
 
At this point jd, I'd say who you are, unless you plan on being up before 8
 
Finally starting to feel like I might be able to fall asleep. Going to bed take 2. I will try to be up before the lynch but no promises. Hubby has to get up for work 30 min before deadline so I might just get up with him for a little while.
 
No that's the other dude. The spider.

Do you have a dragon?
 
Unless your referring to no balls= beggar king

Not no balls = eunuch.
 
So your thinking varys. Not the other dude.
 
Oh goodness. I have viserys as definitely not good/probably evil and varys as meh ambiguous and maybe not good but a good investigator. I can't even decide who to vote for. And phew you guys post a lot.

I'm going to vote **** lynch JohnnyDrama******* cause I can't see either V_____ys characters being that good (though if varys is a good investigator I'll wanna slap myself)

Goodnight y'all. Awkward night for foxhunter. Time to sleep
 
Official Vote Tally:
DocE - 2 (SOV, Katie8)
BBeventer - 1 (DocE)
Shortnsweet - 4 (NStarz, FranZ, kismet, johnnydrama)
johnnydrama - 8 (sheeps, devyn, bbeventer, packen, holdonhope, orca2011, nohika, foxhunter)
devyn - 2 (AKDream, lissa)
 
Foxhunter said:
Oh goodness. I have viserys as definitely not good/probably evil and varys as meh ambiguous and maybe not good but a good investigator. I can't even decide who to vote for. And phew you guys post a lot.

I'm going to vote **** lynch JohnnyDrama******* cause I can't see either V_____ys characters being that good (though if varys is a good investigator I'll wanna slap myself)

Goodnight y'all. Awkward night for foxhunter. Time to sleep
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Um, Varys is about as good as you get in King's Landing.
 
Phew, you all are chatty.

First off, can you not vote to lynch a girl when she is asleep and can't say anything?? That's like voting for the silent person because you don't like how quiet they are. Thank you to those of you knew i'm in Scotland and five hours ahead, much appreciated. I just finished third year finals, and have needed to properly celebrate/sleep, and don't have the phone app to catch up. 😀

Now, here is my question. Nstarz, I know your vote for me was RNG, so why did those other three bandwagon after you with no reason? Are they wolfies trying to save Johnny? If that's the case:

Lynch Johnnydrama.
 
Official Vote Tally:
DocE - 2 (SOV, Katie8)
BBeventer - 1 (DocE)
Shortnsweet - 3 (NStarz, kismet, johnnydrama)
johnnydrama - 10 (sheeps, devyn, bbeventer, packen, holdonhope, orca2011, nohika, foxhunter, FranZ, shortnsweet)
devyn - 2 (AKDream, lissa)
 
For what its worth, gracias to those who came back and understood that I do this every game. Haha. It's not out of character for me to argue against poor ideas as the start (though I cant prove their poor, i mean odds-wise unlikely).

also whomever pointed out the lack of wishing to run for president. Well done. I was going to raise that point in the next day round.

Anyway. I have a new list of people i'm suspicious of now that most people have talked... but I won't change my vote right now because 1) bbeventer is in no risk 2) my vote won't change the outcome in 1 hour.... so no reason to give a potential wolf time to plan a defense.

Anyway.... what are the PM rules in this game? I missed that detail somewhere.
 
p.s. test from 830am to 4 or 5pm. So no posts from me then. Even after that I'm driving from the suburbs to NYC so I might be veeeeeery slow to catch up if i'm only reading on my smartphone and replying at red lights. But I'll be back later tonight, no worries. Mod has work all day, doubt I'll miss anything but most of the night round.
 
alaskandream said:
Okay before I go to bed, now is as good a time as any since I don't feel comfortable with any names up for lynching yet.

My main suspicion is Devyn right now and here is why:

Devyn did not nominate herself for King and seemed to not want to be king, while still acting like she did to possibly avoid suspicion. She said she doesn't want to "seem like an ass" by voting for herself. I really does seem like the mayor gets investigated early and it could be a bad spot for a wolf. Also, jj voted for Lissa when the score was tied- possibly to get more votes for Lissa and votes away from devyn? Not sure about it all, but this is what I have to go on for now 🙂

Plus, devyn is still hilarious whether she's in the game or not! 😀

So for now lynch devyn
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No I did not nominate myself for king, but neither did the 6 million other people playing the game at this point, so not sure how that is suspicious. If you look back in pretty much every game I have ever played I do not nominate myself for the lead role and the one game where I decided to I got called an "ass" for voting for myself (hence where the reference came from). I see no one got that. :laugh:

Over the other 2 potential candidates I did not feel I would be the best king - no - because I have no idea what the heck the storyline or characters are about. This game so far is confusing the ****e out of me. I have to go on wiki GoT all the time to try to semi figure out what y'all are talking about and it is a bit more complicated then the SW game as the villians are not straight forward.

Please feel free to investigate me and 2 people in my group can already vouch for me. And I would recommend not lynching me.
 
So jonnydrama claims to be varys with no balls? If that is what he claims, then I believe he is a wolf. If he is in fact varys, then I have an inkling as to who the next lynch should be.

unlynch DocE
lynch jonnydrama
 
I think I need to give a primer on the spirit of GoT to the people here who arent familiar. As this falls within the same realm as the move i pulled on the loungers in my Skyrim game. "villagers" can be ambiguous and quite evil, but they remain vilagers. Evil is unquestionably evil. This was the case in my game and I think until we see more names up in red font, we have to assume its the case in this game. Plus it fits the spirit of GoT so well.

SPOILER AHEAD (its minor though)

In Game of Thrones every character is in some way deeply corrupt, except for Ned Stark. Even in that case he is honorable to a deadly fault as he'll choose honor over self-preservation in a world where everyone chooses the opposite. You can argue people with the Stark name are much more "good" than those with the "Lannister" name, but in the end they all have redeeming qualities and reasoning for what they do. The exception everyone points to is Joffrey. Joffrey Lannister is a psychopath. But he is (likely) not evil for the sake of this game. He is a human and likely is aligned against whatever the red-fonts are (wolves/evil/others whatever).

The best way to explain it is this. The guy in my avatar is Petyr Baelish. He is Ned Starks first friend in King's Landing (the capitol) when he arrives and is a bureaucrat of little influence but high ambition. His first piece of advice to Ned Stark is to not trust a god damned person, including Baelish himself. Especially Baelish himself. He tells him that everyone is on his side until you're in their way. Stark only takes the advice half to heart. Petyr works hard to continue to be Ned's best friend and adviser on everything. And when an opportunity to change the power structure of King's Landing arrives Baelish promises his support (and the support of the town guards, whom he owns) to both sides and then turns on whatever side looks weaker when they finally come to arms against each other. He is very literally the catalyst of almost all of the evil in the book in one way or another, and yet he is one of the most charming and outwardly "benevolent" characters there. Its only that we see his constant treachery that we realize he's evil to the core.

But I imagine whomever has Baelish actually is a very very useful villager. Because all the characters are like him. Wether outwardly evil or good, they are also plenty of the opposite when you evaluate their inner monolouge. Characters are all grey, ethically. So you should high a higher threshold for what might qualify for evil (In my opinion) and be disinclined to assume any human name is evil... until we see evidence in red text suggesting otherwise. Because right now our only confirmed villain is a zombie or an ice demon. Which are monsters, not humans. I still say its a zombie because you dont have to burn the white walkers (using tv terms) to kill them, you have to hit them with an obsidian blade. Its the wights/others/zombies that you need to burn. Unless i missed some of the books lore somewhere that had them burning a white walker
 
Official Vote Tally:
DocE - 1 (SOV)
BBeventer - 1 (DocE)
Shortnsweet - 3 (NStarz, kismet, johnnydrama)
johnnydrama - 11 (sheeps, devyn, bbeventer, packen, holdonhope, orca2011, nohika, foxhunter, FranZ, shortnsweet, Katie8)
devyn - 2 (AKDream, lissa)
 
DocEspana said:
I think I need to give a primer on the spirit of GoT to the people here who arent familiar. As this falls within the same realm as the move i pulled on the loungers in my Skyrim game. "villagers" can be ambiguous and quite evil, but they remain vilagers. Evil is unquestionably evil. This was the case in my game and I think until we see more names up in red font, we have to assume its the case in this game. Plus it fits the spirit of GoT so well.

SPOILER AHEAD (its minor though)

In Game of Thrones every character is in some way deeply corrupt, except for Ned Stark. Even in that case he is honorable to a deadly fault as he'll choose honor over self-preservation in a world where everyone chooses the opposite. You can argue people with the Stark name are much more "good" than those with the "Lannister" name, but in the end they all have redeeming qualities and reasoning for what they do. The exception everyone points to is Joffrey. Joffrey Lannister is a psychopath. But he is (likely) not evil for the sake of this game. He is a human and likely is aligned against whatever the red-fonts are (wolves/evil/others whatever).

The best way to explain it is this. The guy in my avatar is Petyr Baelish. He is Ned Starks first friend in King's Landing (the capitol) when he arrives and is a bureaucrat of little influence but high ambition. His first piece of advice to Ned Stark is to not trust a god damned person, including Baelish himself. Especially Baelish himself. He tells him that everyone is on his side until you're in their way. Stark only takes the advice half to heart. Petyr works hard to continue to be Ned's best friend and adviser on everything. And when an opportunity to change the power structure of King's Landing arrives Baelish promises his support (and the support of the town guards, whom he owns) to both sides and then turns on whatever side looks weaker when they finally come to arms against each other. He is very literally the catalyst of almost all of the evil in the book in one way or another, and yet he is one of the most charming and outwardly "benevolent" characters there. Its only that we see his constant treachery that we realize he's evil to the core.

But I imagine whomever has Baelish actually is a very very useful villager. Because all the characters are like him. Wether outwardly evil or good, they are also plenty of the opposite when you evaluate their inner monolouge. Characters are all grey, ethically. So you should high a higher threshold for what might qualify for evil (In my opinion) and be disinclined to assume any human name is evil... until we see evidence in red text suggesting otherwise. Because right now our only confirmed villain is a zombie or an ice demon. Which are monsters, not humans. I still say its a zombie because you dont have to burn the white walkers (using tv terms) to kill them, you have to hit them with an obsidian blade. Its the wights/others/zombies that you need to burn. Unless i missed some of the books lore somewhere that had them burning a white walker
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They used fire to kind of ward the white walkers off. The white walkers don't like fire. I can't remember if fire actually killed them, though. Anyways, I have it on good authority that johnnydrama is not who he claims to be.


unlynch devyn
lynch johnnydrama
 
It's too early in the morning to be making a tough lynching choice. 🙁 I'm going to have to go with JD, though. If you are a villager, sorry. 🙁
lynch johnnydrama
You're just sending up flags all over the place. You ask if there's a list of roles after Lissa says telling your role would be a good defense, then say you're Viserys, then change to Varys after TW asks some more questions. Plus, dyachei clarified in the thread that everyone should be positive if they're good or bad, but the way you said
johnnydrama said:
Do we have a list of the roles anywhere? I wouldn't even know if someone were good or bad based off of their character name alone. Almost every character is both good and bad (except for the noble ones who die early).
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gave the impression that you weren't sure about yourself.
 
Okay, and with Lissa's change in vote this looks like a good choice...
 
DocEspana said:
I think I need to give a primer on the spirit of GoT to the people here who arent familiar. As this falls within the same realm as the move i pulled on the loungers in my Skyrim game. "villagers" can be ambiguous and quite evil, but they remain vilagers. Evil is unquestionably evil. This was the case in my game and I think until we see more names up in red font, we have to assume its the case in this game. Plus it fits the spirit of GoT so well.

SPOILER AHEAD (its minor though)

In Game of Thrones every character is in some way deeply corrupt, except for Ned Stark. Even in that case he is honorable to a deadly fault as he'll choose honor over self-preservation in a world where everyone chooses the opposite. You can argue people with the Stark name are much more "good" than those with the "Lannister" name, but in the end they all have redeeming qualities and reasoning for what they do. The exception everyone points to is Joffrey. Joffrey Lannister is a psychopath. But he is (likely) not evil for the sake of this game. He is a human and likely is aligned against whatever the red-fonts are (wolves/evil/others whatever).

The best way to explain it is this. The guy in my avatar is Petyr Baelish. He is Ned Starks first friend in King's Landing (the capitol) when he arrives and is a bureaucrat of little influence but high ambition. His first piece of advice to Ned Stark is to not trust a god damned person, including Baelish himself. Especially Baelish himself. He tells him that everyone is on his side until you're in their way. Stark only takes the advice half to heart. Petyr works hard to continue to be Ned's best friend and adviser on everything. And when an opportunity to change the power structure of King's Landing arrives Baelish promises his support (and the support of the town guards, whom he owns) to both sides and then turns on whatever side looks weaker when they finally come to arms against each other. He is very literally the catalyst of almost all of the evil in the book in one way or another, and yet he is one of the most charming and outwardly "benevolent" characters there. Its only that we see his constant treachery that we realize he's evil to the core.

But I imagine whomever has Baelish actually is a very very useful villager. Because all the characters are like him. Wether outwardly evil or good, they are also plenty of the opposite when you evaluate their inner monolouge. Characters are all grey, ethically. So you should high a higher threshold for what might qualify for evil (In my opinion) and be disinclined to assume any human name is evil... until we see evidence in red text suggesting otherwise. Because right now our only confirmed villain is a zombie or an ice demon. Which are monsters, not humans. I still say its a zombie because you dont have to burn the white walkers (using tv terms) to kill them, you have to hit them with an obsidian blade. Its the wights/others/zombies that you need to burn. Unless i missed some of the books lore somewhere that had them burning a white walker
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Thank you, this is actually very helpful for someone who knows very little about the story line. I intend to read the books, but am planning on starting season 1 this weekend just to get some back ground.

@Liss - At some point during last night, I am pretty sure JD claimed to be two or three different characters. One of the reasons I have kept my lynch vote. But good to know there is confirmation on this.
 
Ivorypolarbear said:
It's too early in the morning to be making a tough lynching choice. 🙁 I'm going to have to go with JD, though. If you are a villager, sorry. 🙁
lynch johnnydrama
You're just sending up flags all over the place. You ask if there's a list of roles after Lissa says telling your role would be a good defense, then say you're Viserys, then change to Varys after TW asks some more questions. Plus, dyachei clarified in the thread that everyone should be positive if they're good or bad, but the way you said

gave the impression that you weren't sure about yourself.
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Actually dyachei said you would know if you were a wolf or not, not if you were good or bad. In the Song of Ice and Fire series, most people are in a gray zone when it comes to morals.
 
Poop, poop, poop. I just got on the internet after waking up at 6:30am my time....and I find 6 pages, and a lynch in 2 minutes.

Please don't jump on me for not voting in this lynch vote...I cannot catch up on 6 pages of "lynch this one! No this one!" in my 2 minutes. 🙁 8am lynch votes are not nice to those of us in different time zones!! (and who aren't Devyn.)
 
Morning people's. Let's hope we lynched a wolfy-wolf! Time to pack the rest of the apartment.
 
Lissarae06 said:
Actually dyachei said you would know if you were a wolf or not, not if you were good or bad. In the Song of Ice and Fire series, most people are in a gray zone when it comes to morals.
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Sorry, I was using good and bad as shorthand for villager and wolf. That's how it read to me that JD was using it, in response to this:
Lissarae06 said:
One way to defend yourself would be to say what your role was. You don't even have to say the details, just the character name is fine. We just don't want to lynch a good guy, especially not one with an important role.
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By which you meant villager, I think, but in retrospect JD may not have realized that.
 
Official Vote Tally:
DocE - 1 (SOV)
BBeventer - 1 (DocE)
Shortnsweet - 3 (NStarz, kismet, johnnydrama)
johnnydrama - 13 (sheeps, devyn, bbeventer, packen, holdonhope, orca2011, nohika, foxhunter, FranZ, shortnsweet, Katie8, IPB, lissa)
devyn - 1 (AKDream)
 
Nooooo! I miss it by twenty minutes! Thought because of my cat I would have made it. 🙁
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Two deaths in the night and the people rise up. Who killed who and how? They must be stopped. Will the people of Westeros (and beyond) band together to fight against the old evil that the wall was built to protect against? Or will they fight amongst themselves?

They finally fall upon JohnnyDrama, who seems more confused than drunk. They torture him with questions about who he is and his answer changes every question. Finally, the truth comes out. You have killed JohnnyDrama, Cersei Lannister - who was only trying to redeem the throne to her believed rightful heir.

26 players remain
Winterfell
1 nohika
2 wldlfstdnt
3 holdonhope
4 FTB- Sansa Stark
5 abbercadaver
6 NStarz
7 ksmi117
8 BBEventer

Dothraki sea
1 jjohnston- other
2 orca2011
3 lissarae06
4 Foxhunter
5 SOV
6 TimeWarner
7 Katie8
8 AlaskanDream

King's Landing
1 JohnnyDrama - Cersei Lannister
2 FranZ
3 krist
4 WTF
5 DocE
6 Minnerbelle
7 Emiloo4

The Wall
1 Sheepdog
2 Ivorypolarbear
3 LIS
4 wildcatj
5 devyn
6 SnS
7 Packen

Night deadline will be 8:30 pm. If I get home from work late, you may not have results by then unless Cuit compiles them (not sure what her schedule is like today).
 
If she is a wolf then Joffrey definitely is too. This kind of puts an end to the only Others can be the bad guys theory.
 
Woot woot! Gotcha Johnny. I have a hard time believing that the Lannisters would be put in the same group as the Others. To me, it is now more likely that we are working with 2 groups of wolves. I guess we will know even more after night ends.
 
Cersei is supposed to be THE bad guy right?!?! SCORE! Way to go whoever started that lynch!
 
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