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SportPonies said:
Coffee would certainly be one of the better conversion options.

But I probably shouldn't bother inputting my opinion since everyone's gonna ignore me today anyway. 🙄
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There are enough people on my radar that I'd like to hear what everyone has to say. We starting to move towards end-game and at this point silence concerns me more than crazy theories.
 
Official D7 Home on the Range lynch tally
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Lynch close ~8.5 hours
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Melchizedek said:
it looks like the EON pattern is broken which makes me think the former, why would village hold off on using a protection ability every night if they could?
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This is a good observation. If it's a wolf ability then in retrospect it was stupid to silence AM when she was pressing Moose so hard because Moose was raising so many eyebrows already. Then burying 2 supposed seers in a row? Maybe it is a wolf ability and the wolves just slipped up with it. I need to read something that will likely take a while to get a better idea, but I do think this is something worth discussing.

Melchizedek said:
I didn’t attempt to, I figured gone meant gone.
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Wtf. Why not? Since you're a vet who seems detail oriented, it seems really shady to me that you're saying you didn't even bother trying to PM with AM OR Coffee to confirm that "gone meant gone". Frankly, your answer makes me want to try and lynch Allie tonight so we can straighten out a lot of info that the village needs to know.

@CoffeeQuestionMark , what did your message about being buried say? I'd like the actual message if you're willing to share it.
 
WildZoo said:
Show some evidence that you're actually working for the village and maybe I'll change my mind, otherwise you are reminding me too much of jboo and snowy.
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(unrelated to the game: does that gif show up for anyone? Can't tell if the gif is broken or if my computer is)

You're playing very reminiscent of Genesis and it's skeeving me out. I also don't see how I'm reminding you of jboo and Snowy at all. I'm not playing remotely like they did.
 
SportPonies said:
(unrelated to the game: does that gif show up for anyone? Can't tell if the gif is broken or if my computer is)

You're playing very reminiscent of Genesis and it's skeeving me out. I also don't see how I'm reminding you of jboo and Snowy at all. I'm not playing remotely like they did.
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I can't see it.
 
SportPonies said:
(unrelated to the game: does that gif show up for anyone? Can't tell if the gif is broken or if my computer is)

You're playing very reminiscent of Genesis and it's skeeving me out. I also don't see how I'm reminding you of jboo and Snowy at all. I'm not playing remotely like they did.
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Lack of content, and your comment about how you might as well not say anything since no one is going to listen anyway

I'm curious how my play is reminding you of Genesis though. Other than the part where I'm lynching you (was that Genesis? I don't actually remember).
 
Stagg737 said:
Wtf. Why not? Since you're a vet who seems detail oriented, it seems really shady to me that you're saying you didn't even bother trying to PM with AM OR Coffee to confirm that "gone meant gone". Frankly, your answer makes me want to try and lynch Allie tonight so we can straighten out a lot of info that the village needs to know.

@CoffeeQuestionMark , what did your message about being buried say? I'd like the actual message if you're willing to share it.
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Maybe he has better reading comprehension than you do, since Jayna already said ages ago that she wasn’t able to talk with me while I was buried, which I confirmed when I was unburied.
 
WildZoo said:
Lack of content, and your comment about how you might as well not say anything since no one is going to listen anyway

I'm curious how my play is reminding you of Genesis though. Other than the part where I'm lynching you (was that Genesis? I don't actually remember).
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The comment about how I may as well not say anything was a joke, first of all. I don't go down that easy.

Yes, that was Genesis. And it's not so much that you're lynching me so much as the way you're lynching me. You're tunneling and being way more nit-picky than normal. You were speaking about Mel's words holding a lot of weight, but I think you know just as well about yours. People trust your judgement very easily, and that's a dangerous thing for them to do, especially since I've seen no real reason from you to believe you're village.
 
SportPonies said:
The comment about how I may as well not say anything was a joke, first of all. I don't go down that easy.
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Then who should we be lynching today instead of you? Who do you think the remaining wolves are and why? It does no good for you to tell me not to lynch you if you don't even know who the best alternative is.

SportPonies said:
Yes, that was Genesis. And it's not so much that you're lynching me so much as the way you're lynching me. You're tunneling and being way more nit-picky than normal. You were speaking about Mel's words holding a lot of weight, but I think you know just as well about yours. People trust your judgement very easily, and that's a dangerous thing for them to do, especially since I've seen no real reason from you to believe you're village.
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Well first of all I was talking about fact checking with Mel, not opinions and analysis. Which is why I try to make sure that when I say stuff it's accurate (to the best of my abilities). If people trust my judgment that's their problem, have you seen me on any wolf lynches lately? No reason for anyone to trust my opinions over their own.
Second, I'm always nit-picky and I always tunnel. That's a dubz trait, not a dubz wolf trait. And you saying that is just reminding me of you saying AM was being more evasive than normal. You may need to reevaluate your meta analysis.
 
genny said:
I am confused about how coffee shared those results, and concerned too. Especially since someone asked me what I do last night, and I told them.
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Didn't mean to skip over that. You mean like, a night result thing? Like coffee seered you?
 
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

I have implicating evidence, from my two nights buried, of Mel and genny as a wolves and I am sorry to say, so sorry to say that it seems there is a lynch cancellation ability.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt

Mel had my list yes of those that I cleared and I said I was sure so sure he was village until that last moment. He probed for dpmd's ability because he did not believe that it would clear her. I said I can't give it I don't know what you are for sure. I said if snowy flips wolf it clears you. But you see this would have been good it would have but Mel unlynched snowy and voted Lawper at the last minute and it allowed the lynch vote to go to a tie.

Genny, on the other hand, came from ISOing and the Jayna vote. The Jayna vote, yes as many of you had pointed out I didn't have good reason to vote her. Dear genny though didnt either don't you see? She has not provided evidence for anyone, ever, this whole game and gosh voted for snowy earlier and jumped off as soon as I jumped on so that train wouldn't take off. As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.

If I had to gander I think there may be 3 wolves left - Genny, Mel, Sporty.
 
Stagg737 said:
This is a good observation. If it's a wolf ability then in retrospect it was stupid to silence AM when she was pressing Moose so hard because Moose was raising so many eyebrows already. Then burying 2 supposed seers in a row? Maybe it is a wolf ability and the wolves just slipped up with it. I need to read something that will likely take a while to get a better idea, but I do think this is something worth discussing.



Wtf. Why not? Since you're a vet who seems detail oriented, it seems really shady to me that you're saying you didn't even bother trying to PM with AM OR Coffee to confirm that "gone meant gone". Frankly, your answer makes me want to try and lynch Allie tonight so we can straighten out a lot of info that the village needs to know.

@CoffeeQuestionMark , what did your message about being buried say? I'd like the actual message if you're willing to share it.
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You have been buried. You cannot participate on thread in anyway or use player pms today either. You will be able to participate again on D6 when we welcome you back in the night writeup.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

I have implicating evidence, from my two nights buried, of Mel and genny as a wolves and I am sorry to say, so sorry to say that it seems there is a lynch cancellation ability.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt

Mel had my list yes of those that I cleared and I said I was sure so sure he was village until that last moment. He probed for dpmd's ability because he did not believe that it would clear her. I said I can't give it I don't know what you are for sure. I said if snowy flips wolf it clears you. But you see this would have been good it would have but Mel unlynched snowy and voted Lawper at the last minute and it allowed the lynch vote to go to a tie.

Genny, on the other hand, came from ISOing and the Jayna vote. The Jayna vote, yes as many of you had pointed out I didn't have good reason to vote her. Dear genny though didnt either don't you see? She has not provided evidence for anyone, ever, this whole game and gosh voted for snowy earlier and jumped off as soon as I jumped on so that train wouldn't take off. As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.

If I had to gander I think there may be 3 wolves left - Genny, Mel, Sporty.
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I will also point out he was quick to give Jboo a break earlier until yesterday do you see?

Why, he was on her from day one for making a post casting suspicion on Lawper / Moose (this suspicion was in PM with me)

Yet when it came down to it the next day and I said I would vote Jboo he turned off, said her email attachment cleared her. So conveniently decided yesterday that his decision to clear her was fake I think not.

He knew dolphins ability from AM. He knew AM and dpmd were cleared by me. This is why I warned you all.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

I have implicating evidence, from my two nights buried, of Mel and genny as a wolves and I am sorry to say, so sorry to say that it seems there is a lynch cancellation ability.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt

Mel had my list yes of those that I cleared and I said I was sure so sure he was village until that last moment. He probed for dpmd's ability because he did not believe that it would clear her. I said I can't give it I don't know what you are for sure. I said if snowy flips wolf it clears you. But you see this would have been good it would have but Mel unlynched snowy and voted Lawper at the last minute and it allowed the lynch vote to go to a tie.

Genny, on the other hand, came from ISOing and the Jayna vote. The Jayna vote, yes as many of you had pointed out I didn't have good reason to vote her. Dear genny though didnt either don't you see? She has not provided evidence for anyone, ever, this whole game and gosh voted for snowy earlier and jumped off as soon as I jumped on so that train wouldn't take off. As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.

If I had to gander I think there may be 3 wolves left - Genny, Mel, Sporty.
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Could you post the exact wording of the results you have received throughout the game(minus any living players). And also who you shared those results with?

And I'm still waiting on someone to tell me more about the nightly communicator.
 
WildZoo said:
Could you post the exact wording of the results you have received throughout the game(minus any living players). And also who you shared those results with?

And I'm still waiting on someone to tell me more about the nightly communicator.
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N1
Pippy gets to send gifs/fun messages to one player nightly

N3
Am can block one player per night.

---You see here is why i couldnt post results on Moose as I had none. Mel cast suspicion on AM that night and I chose to seer her 5 minutes before night close. After I found she was blocker I looked back to find out who she had voted the previous day. She blocked Moose on the no kill night

N4
You asked DPMD what she does for fun and she said, "Well it's in my name, isn't it? MD? I save people's lives."

Here I was confused as the wording was different and I thought I had found an unseerable wolf. But then mod clarified "(Dpmd is a protector, I tried to add mod flair)"

Results blocked from living players n2, n5, n6
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
N1
Pippy gets to send gifs/fun messages to one player nightly

N3
Am can block one player per night.

---You see here is why i couldnt post results on Moose as I had none. Mel cast suspicion on AM that night and I chose to seer her 5 minutes before night close. After I found she was blocker I looked back to find out who she had voted the previous day.

N4
You asked DPMD what she does for fun and she said, "Well it's in my name, isn't it? MD? I save people's lives."

Here I was confused as the wording was different and I thought I had found an unseerable wolf. But then mod clarified "(Dpmd is a protector, I tried to add mod flair)"

Results blocked from living players n2, n5, n6
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Wait, so you never actually seered moose?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
N1
Pippy gets to send gifs/fun messages to one player nightly

N3
Am can block one player per night.

---You see here is why i couldnt post results on Moose as I had none. Mel cast suspicion on AM that night and I chose to seer her 5 minutes before night close. After I found she was blocker I looked back to find out who she had voted the previous day. She blocked Moose on the no kill night

N4
You asked DPMD what she does for fun and she said, "Well it's in my name, isn't it? MD? I save people's lives."

Here I was confused as the wording was different and I thought I had found an unseerable wolf. But then mod clarified "(Dpmd is a protector, I tried to add mod flair)"

Results blocked from living players n2, n5, n6
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I talked to myself a lot and switched a lot so it is hard to explain my train of thought but this message is what I wrote before seeding dpmd
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Still can try listening to pippy (I do have to wonder if she died for that). Additionally, made a comment about AM having insider information - I carefully tried not to imply that, but a wolf would figure it out knowing that Moose wasn't actually seered. If she is wolfy, clears stagg. I see it potentially being a win-win-win solution"
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

I have implicating evidence, from my two nights buried, of Mel and genny as a wolves and I am sorry to say, so sorry to say that it seems there is a lynch cancellation ability.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt

Mel had my list yes of those that I cleared and I said I was sure so sure he was village until that last moment. He probed for dpmd's ability because he did not believe that it would clear her. I said I can't give it I don't know what you are for sure. I said if snowy flips wolf it clears you. But you see this would have been good it would have but Mel unlynched snowy and voted Lawper at the last minute and it allowed the lynch vote to go to a tie.

Genny, on the other hand, came from ISOing and the Jayna vote. The Jayna vote, yes as many of you had pointed out I didn't have good reason to vote her. Dear genny though didnt either don't you see? She has not provided evidence for anyone, ever, this whole game and gosh voted for snowy earlier and jumped off as soon as I jumped on so that train wouldn't take off. As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.

If I had to gander I think there may be 3 wolves left - Genny, Mel, Sporty.
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You’re off your rocker.
1. Why would I spend two days bussing a wolf with a triple kill?
2. I was asking about dpmd because I thought she was sketch and forgive me if I don’t trust your judgement of abilities to clear people with what little game experience you have.

WildZoo said:
Wait, so you never actually seered moose?
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3. Yes coffee, please tell us how you never seered MOOSE and I covered your ass instead of using that little bit of information to lynch you, like a wolf would.

4. Allie seered me on Sunday night and cleared me village so bugger off.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

I have implicating evidence, from my two nights buried, of Mel and genny as a wolves and I am sorry to say, so sorry to say that it seems there is a lynch cancellation ability.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt

Mel had my list yes of those that I cleared and I said I was sure so sure he was village until that last moment. He probed for dpmd's ability because he did not believe that it would clear her. I said I can't give it I don't know what you are for sure. I said if snowy flips wolf it clears you. But you see this would have been good it would have but Mel unlynched snowy and voted Lawper at the last minute and it allowed the lynch vote to go to a tie.

Genny, on the other hand, came from ISOing and the Jayna vote. The Jayna vote, yes as many of you had pointed out I didn't have good reason to vote her. Dear genny though didnt either don't you see? She has not provided evidence for anyone, ever, this whole game and gosh voted for snowy earlier and jumped off as soon as I jumped on so that train wouldn't take off. As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.

If I had to gander I think there may be 3 wolves left - Genny, Mel, Sporty.
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I think your analysis is way off. I explained my snowy vote earlier when asked, maybe you should go reread that. And you need to think REAL HARD about that lynch cancellation ability. Why is it still in play when we've lynched wolves? Wouldn't the wolves have used that ability if available to them?
 
So two days in a row we have a seer calling people wolves without actually having verified that information and wow let's just be glad that she was right the second time.

And other people hiding the fact that she lied about the results

AND outing herself unecessarily since the results she did it for didn't actually exist

This makes no ****ing sense, and between this and the formalin fumes my head just might explode.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I will also point out he was quick to give Jboo a break earlier until yesterday do you see?

Why, he was on her from day one for making a post casting suspicion on Lawper / Moose (this suspicion was in PM with me)
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
My friends my dear friends I am so sorry so stupid but I wish you would have heeded my warning.

Please please listen as I know you have doubt
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Last time I checked, you're not the narrator of a children's movie.

.....So why are you suddenly writing like one?
 
Melchizedek said:
You’re off your rocker.
1. Why would I spend two days bussing a wolf with a triple kill?
2. I was asking about dpmd because I thought she was sketch and forgive me if I don’t trust your judgement of abilities to clear people with what little game experience you have.


3. Yes coffee, please tell us how you never seered MOOSE and I covered your ass instead of using that little bit of information to lynch you, like a wolf would.

4. Allie seered me on Sunday night and cleared me village so bugger off.
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Allie never admittrd to that
And riddle me this !!!

Someone ELSE had my list and you knew that. I warned you if AM and dpmd died they would need to go. They received the same warning about you

Why haven't you trird to lynch them??
 
Like, you guys realize the only people you were lying to were villagers, right? Since it seems people are given notifications when actions are used on them, wolves knew moose wasn't seered. What was the ****ing point. As we've seen, it's not that hard to push a lynch without faking information. What even is this game.
 
finnickthedog said:
@SportPonies Voices and I were wondering what in your night results led you to believe you were seered
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It straight up said someone "looked into my soul". I don't want to post the exact wording since I don't believe it's been posted in thread previously; would rather not give that away.

I also was given more brownies and visited by the butterfly.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
As well she was one of the first to ask me to provide evidence against Moose but quickly switched to defending me when others asked the same.
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So let's go back through what actually happened, instead of relying on your mischaracterization.
This is what I said the day FS was lynched, and Moose was on the chopping block:
genny said:
fwiw, I think Moose is sounding a lot like she did in the last game (her first game). If you read endgame, where she was lynched, it sounds a lot like today.
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genny said:
:shrug: I'm just not seeing it. I'll be the first to admit I'm terrible at wolf hunting though.
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^Both of those are not vouches, just statements of how I felt at the time the events were unfolding. Look at how godawful wrong I was. That doesn't make me a wolf.

This is after you said you had evidence against Moose:
genny said:
So if Moose is a wolf, and knows what your evidence is, then that means all the other wolves also know what your evidence is. So what's the benefit to keeping us villagers in the dark? Unless it's not as clear as you're sounding?
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^This could have been answered with something about the evidence being clear, or solid, or from the mods, anything to let us know that it's more than just feels, i.e. it's worth lynching Moose over. That's all I asked for. Not a role reveal, which is how you responded:

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I am village seer
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And after that^, everything else I've said about you has been supportive. If you think that makes me a wolf, then I'm sorry that you're that paranoid. But you're also very wrong.
 
SARdoghandler said:
Ok crazy theory loading... Feeling more and more like it just might be correct. I'm just writing it on shadowing breaks, though wrote most of it in my mod pm. Please hold
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Please save me SAR I'm drowning in my own tinfoil
 
Ok. Here is what I wrote to myself earlier today in mod pms to have it down. Background so it makes sense: I am the open-a-pm-once-daily player. No issue with that being out there since I pmed with jboo yesterday, so the wolves know. The day before, I opened a pm with coffee because I was fairly sure she seered me n2. She proceeded to tell me AM's and dpmd's ability so I would trust them as village. This was basically in response to me saying "so of the people you seered, how confident are you that they are village". I was not fishing so was a little surprised when she spilled everything with 0 hesitation.

Here is my pm (from first thing this morning, so should be noted that it includes analysis on Mel, but it is the second theory I think might be very likely):

Starting to become concerned that coffee's seer info got to a wolf. I have 2 possible theories for this, getting progressively more paranoid haha. Firstly, is that she told me all her info with me trying hard not to fish for it. Just wanted to know who was likely villager and I got it all. She did say that if they start going down, look at Mel. But Mel did say somewhere on thread she didn't know the specifics of AM's ability I think. So I want to know who, other than me, coffee told that much to. Cause I didn't spill to anyone other than dpmd.

Second theory is that coffee is the wolf. This explains why she hasn't to my knowledge seered a wolf yet. Threw Miranda under the bus to gain cred with AM as it sounds like the blocked wolf theory was mostly AM's anyway. This explains why coffee was so fast to give me abilities when I barely asked for then - trust building/pocketing. Also I hope a village ability seer wouldn't be that trustworthy of me simply based onthe fact I can pm. That doesn't make me 100% village and she outed protector and blocker to me. Also explains possibly why I am not dead yet. Now that she told me to look at Mel if the power roles are going down, she could have decided to start taking them out. Setting either me or Mel up to take the fall because she could just point the finger at us.

Third possibility is that it was a coincidence and I'm paranoid as **** and accidentally going to get a village seer killed if it comes down to it.

With that, I can answer any questions about the interactions I've had with coffee if people need more info.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Allie never admittrd to that
And riddle me this !!!

Someone ELSE had my list and you knew that. I warned you if AM and dpmd died they would need to go. They received the same warning about you

Why haven't you trird to lynch them??
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You really think I’m stupid enough to make that claim when she could come back tomorrow and lynch me for lying? She gave me her seer list because she had already seered me.

I didn’t lynch them because they have been reading village all game and I don’t care to lynch villagers.

Take a deep breath and think things through instead of having knee jerk reactions to everything. This is exactly why I was asking about your seer list because you have no clue what you’re doing. We handed a nuke to a toddler smh...
 
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