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pgg said:
Oooh! What'd you get?
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One of these stock
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and one of these with a few options.
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Now I just have to decide between this

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or this in black
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I love pretty much anything that comes out of the Sako factory and that TRG is the bomb. Hope your shoulder can stand up to it. I love my P94s Finnfire for a nice 22 LR. Out of production, but you can find them on Gunbroker if you watch. Sweet little rifle.

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Probably the reason we see more stuff in stock is that the manufacturers have ramped up production so much. Still, I see some of the big national companies placing limits on the number of magazines and ammunition that each individual can buy. For now stock levels are ok, but if Obama wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of 2008.

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leviathan said:
There's absolutely no way charity could ever finance a health care system. If you want to argue that, why not get rid of our public education system too and social security and all the other social services and let people donate from charity? I think the answer is we know if you want a prosperous nation we do a much better job working together than as individuals. Put another way, I feel I can make a much greater impact if I donate money through my taxes than donate it individually. Like it or not, America is a socialist country and has been for a long time. It's just a question of how much more socialist they will become with time.
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Charity can't fund the whole system. It can and did fund indigent care.
 
Obama 295 Mitt Romney 243

I hate Murdock and Akin. these pigs ruined the Republican chances of winning the Senate. The bible thumpers need to leave the GOP.
 
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Yo GabbaPentin said:
Further, if you REALLY cannot see the argument that millions of democrats are making about Romney wanting to overturn Roe v Wade, and deny gay rights - both groups that have made tons of progress over the last 50 years, than you really just need to open a history book. It's plain and simple.
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OMG, CNN is live now talking about possibility of a Romney win turning back Civil Rights. I guess it's not just D712 who's worried about this. It's millions Yo Gabba. Read a newspaper and turn on the news, it's EVERYWHERE.

This will be a fun election night as long as Ohio and Florida don't mess it up with voting sites and provisional ballots...!

D712
 
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periopdoc said:
One of these stock

and one of these with a few options
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Nice, I have a 6920 (though it came with the regular handguards not a rail) and my two SBRs are frankenguns. Noveske makes nice stuff.

We picked the SF line of suppressors on the strength of their QD mounting system. AAC went from 18 to 51 to 90 tooth mounts and still some people have gripe about them; no one ever complains about the Surefire mounts.

I have an AAC pistol can (Tirant 9) and it's awesome, just ordered their 9S. The Noveske comes with an AAC mount doesn't it? Can't go wrong with either AAC or SF, though good luck finding one of the new Surefire SOCOM cans in stock anyplace. I bet you could get the AAC can in hand many months sooner than the SF. The first suppressor we bought was a SF FA762K, intended for .308 and .223 guns.

periopdoc said:
I love pretty much anything that comes out of the Sako factory and that TRG is the bomb. Hope your shoulder can stand up to it. I love my P94s Finnfire for a nice 22 LR. Out of production, but you can find them on Gunbroker if you watch. Sweet little rifle.
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Part of what I'm looking for in a 22 is a good trainer rifle for my .308 and now 338LM guns. (And I can shoot suppressed 22lr out to about 50y in my back yard in Virginia, not so much the 338.) Just want a nice accurate bolt action 22 with a smaller/cheaper scope analagous to the S&B monster going on the 338. Ie, cheaper shoulder-sparing trigger time. Was sort of eyeballing the Sako Quad with a 22lr barrel and maybe 17hmr for grins, but I'll check out that P94 too.

periopdoc said:
Probably the reason we see more stuff in stock is that the manufacturers have ramped up production so much. Still, I see some of the big national companies placing limits on the number of magazines and ammunition that each individual can buy. For now stock levels are ok, but if Obama wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of 2008.
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Could be, though a lot of people like me who got caught unaware then and didn't shoot for 6-8 months because shelves were bare have spent the last 4 years stocking a bit of a buffer. I bought a lot of stuff in 2009 when things were available, not so much of a need now. Of course I have an extended vacation coming up so my consumption of ammo will be zero for a while. :)
 
leviathan said:
I am against bailouts and agree with you 100%. I don't know enough about where the money is allegedly going. I'm also against handouts and welfare for able-bodied people. If they want welfare we can find a job for them cleaning up the streets or doing whatever, as long as they're out there and the money isnt just being wasted.

I would like to see evidence about where the 39% is going and if it truly is going to handouts as you say then I'd be against it. If that is however how much it costs to finance health insurance for everyone then I'm okay with that (personally).


There's absolutely no way charity could ever finance a health care system. If you want to argue that, why not get rid of our public education system too and social security and all the other social services and let people donate from charity? I think the answer is we know if you want a prosperous nation we do a much better job working together than as individuals. Put another way, I feel I can make a much greater impact if I donate money through my taxes than donate it individually. Like it or not, America is a socialist country and has been for a long time. It's just a question of how much more socialist they will become with time.

Having good health is important for a prosperous country. And while people have differing opinions on whether health care is a human right, that is how I and many others feel. If the majority of Americans agree with that, then they will vote in the president that supports this idea too. While 47% of americans might be taking 'handouts', 47% isnt enough to elect a president so I'm assuming there are at least some others out there who are willing to shell out more of their money to help others. If not, then I guess we will see Romney as president tomorrow.

The interesting thing is that so many Republicans are devout Christians, but there's few people as socialist as Jesus Christ is/was.
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life is a right . The right to services, like healthcare, for free, is not a right.

location: canada. pls go
 
In every other developed country, access to heathcare is a basic human right. There's even universal healthcare in Cuba! Amazing, huh?
Fortunately I live in a country where sick people aren't thrown out of hospitals just because they don't have health insurance.
 
boanssi said:
Fortunately I live in a country where sick people aren't thrown out of hospitals just because they don't have health insurance.
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So do I. In my 2 decades of medicine and multiple hospitals, I have never witnessed someone being turned away for inability to pay. I have witnessed many patients without insurance who have racked up huge hospital bills when everyone knows full well it will be completely charity care.
 
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boanssi said:
In every other developed country, access to heathcare is a basic human right. There's even universal healthcare in Cuba! Amazing, huh?
Fortunately I live in a country where sick people aren't thrown out of hospitals just because they don't have health insurance.
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So, it sounds as if you are saying that one person's hard work is another person's basic right. I have no problem with providing charity care (we do a lot plus other charitable care in other countries) and I enjoy doing it. When you tell me I am obligated to do it, I have a problem with that.
 
Too late for me to drink when the results come in.

Tomorrow after work.

Obama wins: Victory Gin

Romney wins: Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
 
periopdoc said:
5 points for the Hitchhiker's Guide reference!

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Victory Gin (from 1984): A cheap, low-quality drink supplied by the government. Winston Smith, the protagonist, frequently drinks it despite its disagreeable taste and smell.
 
:thumbup: I knew that came from some where, but I couldn't place it.

Either way this whole election thing has me feeling more like partaking of a Moloko-Plus with synthamesc.

Anyone, anyone?

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Gern Blansten said:
So do I. In my 2 decades of medicine and multiple hospitals, I have never witnessed someone being turned away for inability to pay. I have witnessed many patients without insurance who have racked up huge hospital bills when everyone knows full well it will be completely charity care.
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Imagine you could actually get paid for that care and it didn't raise the premiums for the rest of us who actually pay for insurance.
 
Gern Blansten said:
So do I. In my 2 decades of medicine and multiple hospitals, I have never witnessed someone being turned away for inability to pay. I have witnessed many patients without insurance who have racked up huge hospital bills when everyone knows full well it will be completely charity care.
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I have. Our system has an infinite tolerance for patients who.are actively trying to die, but if you.need any kind of non.emergent care you are on your own
 
pgg said:
Part of what I'm looking for in a 22 is a good trainer rifle for my .308 and now 338LM guns. Was sort of eyeballing the Sako Quad with a 22lr barrel and maybe 17hmr for grins, but I'll check out that P94 too.
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You may have difficulty with threading the stock barrel on the P94s, but Lilja makes a great replacement barrel for it that should be a snap to thread. Did Beretta/ Sako decide to go ahead and start importing quads again? I almost picked up one last year when they weren't importing them, but they are on the website again. Hmmm.

If you are looking for something for training for your TRG what about something with more similar geometry like this?



Comes pre-threaded, and I am sure that you could get those front rails off to make it look less douchey. I love the Savage Accu-Trigger.

My long range rifle is a pretty simple Savage .270 Winchester and I love it. Dropped a deer at 400 yards from a unsupported, kneeling position this year. One shot, double lung and what appeared to be main PA.

Got bad news from my dealer. The Noveske SBR that he thought he had for me got scooped up by someone else before he could confirm the order. So now I will have to wait for another one to become available.

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Obama pretty much has it in the bag at this point. Narrow lead in florida, but Miami consists of a large portion of the uncounted votes. Without the state, Romney doesn't have much of a chance.
 
Looks like Owelfare has it in the bag. 4/4 key swing states in his favor. MSNBC said even if he wins fl and via, he,d need a hailmary to win.
 
leviathan said:
Nothing is a "right" unless we say it is. People die without proper healthcare.
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So there are no unalienable rights to things like, oh say "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness?''

One should only have the right to freedom from enslavement because society says that individual has that right, not because there truly is an inherent natural right to liberty? The right to personal security is not absolute and can legitimately be revoked by the state?


OOOKAAAY then.

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periopdoc said:
You may have difficulty with threading the stock barrel on the P94s, but Lilja makes a great replacement barrel for it that should be a snap to thread. Did Beretta/ Sako decide to go ahead and start importing quads again? I almost picked up one last year when they weren't importing them, but they are on the website again. Hmmm.
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I was thinking I'd have to find one on Gunbroker but Euro Optic has them on their web site with a note about August 2012 availability, and they appear to be in stock. Regardless I'll probably put off buying anything until next year.

periopdoc said:
If you are looking for something for training for your TRG what about something with more similar geometry like this?

[Savage]

Comes pre-threaded, and I am sure that you could get those front rails off to make it look less douchey. I love the Savage Accu-Trigger.
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Savage would do the job. I've also looked at some of the CZ rifles too.

periopdoc said:
My long range rifle is a pretty simple Savage .270 Winchester and I love it. Dropped a deer at 400 yards from a unsupported, kneeling position this year. One shot, double lung and what appeared to be main PA.

Got bad news from my dealer. The Noveske SBR that he thought he had for me got scooped up by someone else before he could confirm the order. So now I will have to wait for another one to become available.
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Nice shot :thumbup: and bummer on the Noveske :thumbdown:.
 
So, OP, how's that whole "first to announce a Romney Presidency" thing going? ;)

Obama seems to win FL, OH, and CO.

More importantly, we legalized Marijuana in CO. Not medicinal - MARIJUANA. Period.
Taxes goto education rather than the Cartels.

D712
 
doctor712 said:
So, OP, how's that whole "first to announce a Romney Presidency" thing going? ;)

Obama seems to win FL, OH, and CO.

More importantly, we legalized Marijuana in CO. Not medicinal - MARIJUANA. Period.
Taxes goto education rather than the Cartels.

D712
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I think you mean decriminalize, not legalize.
 
doctor712 said:
So, OP, how's that whole "first to announce a Romney Presidency" thing going? ;)

Obama seems to win FL, OH, and CO.

More importantly, we legalized Marijuana in CO. Not medicinal - MARIJUANA. Period.
Taxes goto education rather than the Cartels.

D712
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Too funny D712. I guess he is is in the celebratory Mitt campaign headquarters that I am currently watching. Somber, and quiet.

With big ol' Chris Christie in the middle of it all. Wonder what he's gonna say now. Although I do admit I like his straightforward ness.

Haha!!!!!!
 
MiracleforMD said:
I think you mean decriminalize, not legalize.
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I'm not sure decriminalize even covers it. Bottom line, I have to invite JPP over soon so we can enjoy the decriminalized goodies.

D712
 
doctor712 said:
I'm not sure decriminalize even covers it. Bottom line, I have to invite JPP over soon so we can enjoy the decriminalized goodies.

D712
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No dude you are right. Washington, Colorado, and Oregon are up for straight LEGALIZATION. My bad.
 
Disappointing but the sun will rise tomorrow.

I'd like to propose a toast to the continued good health and job satisfaction of the nation's federal judges and Justices. :)



And in a side note, it's interesting to watch the votes come in on the ongoing trainwreck that is California Direct Democracy (ie proposition system). What a bizarre place to live.
 
periopdoc said:
So there are no unalienable rights to things like, oh say "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness?''

One should only have the right to freedom from enslavement because society says that individual has that right, not because there truly is an inherent natural right to liberty? The right to personal security is not absolute and can legitimately be revoked by the state?


OOOKAAAY then.

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My head is hurting..I have no idea what you're getting at.... I never said those arent inalienable rights. WE decided that those are inalienable rights, unless you think some man in the sky did that for us? Or someone with magic underwear? Or are you saying that if it wasn't already in a legal document made 200 years ago, you'd be arguing that the right to liberty is not inherent?
 
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IlDestriero said:
Obama is expected to take a strong early lead followed by a late surge for the Governor when his supporters get out of work.
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Well, it seems that most of those who voted after their shift ended were Obama supporters ;)
 
Ibn Alnafis MD said:
Well, it seems that most of those who voted after their shift ended were Obama supporters ;)
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Obviously. A lot of Obama supporters are actually middle class workers and not moochers like the Republican party like to point out.

Unfortunately, the house of representatives will likely be won by the republicans. Oh well, four more years of ******ed obstructionism.
 
pgg said:
Disappointing but the sun will rise tomorrow.

I'd like to propose a toast to the continued good health and job satisfaction of the nation's federal judges and Justices. :)
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IMO alot of folks voted Obama for the same reason. They were worried about Ginsburg and Breyer replacements to be appointed by Romney. If the Republicans would embrace the small government concept when it comes to the bedroom and personal choice they would not now be experiencing a crappy post election morning.
 
Yo GabbaPentin said:
We will mark YOUR words. We will also mark osteo's words. Of course one of you will be right. And next election cycle, one of you will point to how you accurately predicted last election with confidence. Then maybe a newspaper will take up your blog if you post enough biased graphs and charts to back up your statements. Certain people will think, "WOW, that guy REALLY knows what he's talking about." When in reality, your guess has about a 50% chance of being right (giving the close polls).

Feeling a little aggrevated about all the reports coming in about Romney votes being counted as Obama votes by "accident" in Ohio and North Carolina. WTF. Is this election being held in IRAN?
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I was right. No surprise.
 
MiracleforMD said:
No dude you are right. Washington, Colorado, and Oregon are up for straight LEGALIZATION. My bad.
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I knew that, but was playing along. I mean, I voted the hummer in afterall! :)

D712
 
doctor712 said:
I knew that, but was playing along. I mean, I voted the hummer in afterall! :)

D712
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I hope I don't offend anyone with this, but it honestly seems like the nationwide legalization of marijuana will happen long before the legalization of gay marriage. Haha, strange place we live in.
 
boanssi said:
Obviously. A lot of Obama supporters are actually middle class workers and not moochers like the Republican party like to point out.

Unfortunately, the house of representatives will likely be won by the republicans. Oh well, four more years of ******ed obstructionism.
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True, but if you subtract out the moocher vote, it's a landslide victory for Mitt. Unfortunately, people have learned voting themselves money is easier than working and the dems are all too willing to buy votes with tax funds.
 
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