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But dat MCAT ... and those schools. o.oWe share a striking number of similarities, from the exact number of interviews to similar GPA. Let's hope that we will get some good news by the end of January!!
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We share a striking number of similarities, from the exact number of interviews to similar GPA. Let's hope that we will get some good news by the end of January!!
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I hate to be a downer, and best of luck this year. But if you have to reapply next year submit earlier and seriously broaden your school list. Unless you have great LORs you are way to top heavy.
No worries and thanks for noticing that; my list was intentional. I am on a research project that includes funding for two years. I will not leave the current project if not for a school that I will love to attend. ( I can get a masters degree if I continue for another year)
So if I have to reapply, I will definitely include a lot more schools. (and apply early, as I learnt the hard way)
I'm so sorry to hear this 🙁. Have you considered reevaluating your career goals as a physician and seeking out experiences to reflect that? You might not have been selling yourself effectively enough. Barrons essays that will get you into medical school is a really good book that taught me to establish and weave a theme throughout my essays and what to emphasize in work/experiences and secondaries. It helped that i already had a theme running through my experiences. I think reading some of the essays and maybe looking into what is unique about you and your passions/ your approach to medicine/health might be a good way to decide what you can do to strengthen your depth as an applicant, the cohesiveness of your application, and refine your sense of direction. One doctor told me that saying that you're going into medicine is as general as saying you're a scientific researcher. There is so much divergence, and I think that it really helps medical schools when you show them that you are able to step back, reflect, and deliberately seek out those meaningful experiences, rooted within a specific passion or approach, that allow you to grow and learn the most. I wish you success and I really admire your perseverance and dedication. It is truly inspiring, and I think you should be proud of it. There has to be some motivating factor that has pushed you to be so persevering in pursuing this dream of becoming a physician! Have you represented this factor, experience, or understanding of health in your application? Do you recognize yourself in the application? Are you doing yourself justice? If you got amnesia and only had your Amcas application to look at to remind you who you were and what your drive was, would you be essentially the same person. Lol sorry if my advice is stupid.Of course, I can't presume to know anything about your application or you as a person, and I'm really not qualified to give anyone advice about this complex process. This is just something that has really helped me in the process. It is how I approached my interviews as well, how I determined what to stress.I applied to twelve schools and completed every secondary by the first week of August.
My LizzyM is 74 with a strong upward trend (no grade lower than an A- since 2010).
Went through eight drafts of my personal statement and have very strong LORs.
500+ hours of clinical experience and thousands of hours of work experience (worked full-time throughout college).
I do have a couple of holes in my application - limited research and shadowing - but other than that I thought everything looked pretty good.
I hope I don't come across like an entitled jerk, but I just don't understand why I haven't had any luck this cycle. While I am thinking about reapplying, there aren't any really obvious ways that I could dramatically improve my application. Engaged in research right now, but I won't be published in time for next cycle. I'm also turning 30 soon and the idea of waiting another year is less than appealing.
Is there anything I'm missing here other than the aforementioned research and shadowing? Would working as a CNA or EMT for the next six months be beneficial? And how bad is the reapplicant stigma? Is a few hundred hours of research considered a "significant improvement" or would my app just end up in the garbage if I reapplied to schools that have already rejected me?
Thanks,
Bill
I'm so sorry to hear this 🙁. Have you considered reevaluating your career goals as a physician and seeking out experiences to reflect that? You might not have been selling yourself effectively enough. Barrons essays that will get you into medical school is a really good book that taught me to establish and weave a theme throughout my essays and what to emphasize in work/experiences and secondaries. It helped that i already had a theme running through my experiences. I think reading some of the essays and maybe looking into what is unique about you and your passions/ your approach to medicine/health might be a good way to decide what you can do to strengthen your depth as an applicant, the cohesiveness of your application, and refine your sense of direction. One doctor told me that saying that you're going into medicine is as general as saying you're a scientific researcher. There is so much divergence, and I think that it really helps medical schools when you show them that you are able to step back, reflect, and deliberately seek out those meaningful experiences, rooted within a specific passion or approach, that allow you to grow and learn the most. I wish you success and I really admire your perseverance and dedication. It is truly inspiring, and I think you should be proud of it. There has to be some motivating factor that has pushed you to be so persevering in pursuing this dream of becoming a physician! Have you represented this factor, experience, or understanding of health in your application? Do you recognize yourself in the application? Are you doing yourself justice? If you got amnesia and only had your Amcas application to look at to remind you who you were and what your drive was, would you be essentially the same person. Lol sorry if my advice is stupid.Of course, I can't presume to know anything about your application or you as a person, and I'm really not qualified to give anyone advice about this complex process. This is just something that has really helped me in the process. It is how I approached my interviews as well, how I determined what to stress.
I hope I don't come across like an entitled jerk, but I just don't understand why I haven't had any luck this cycle.
I hope I don't come across like an entitled jerk, but I just don't understand why I haven't had any luck this cycle. While I am thinking about reapplying, there aren't any really obvious ways that I could dramatically improve my application. Engaged in research right now, but I won't be published in time for next cycle. I'm also turning 30 soon and the idea of waiting another year is less than appealing.
Is there anything I'm missing here other than the aforementioned research and shadowing? Would working as a CNA or EMT for the next six months be beneficial? And how bad is the reapplicant stigma? Is a few hundred hours of research considered a "significant improvement" or would my app just end up in the garbage if I reapplied to schools that have already rejected me?
Thanks,
Bill
I applied to twelve schools and completed every secondary by the first week of August.
My LizzyM is 74 with a strong upward trend (no grade lower than an A- since 2010).
Went through eight drafts of my personal statement and have very strong LORs.
500+ hours of clinical experience and thousands of hours of work experience (worked full-time throughout college).
I do have a couple of holes in my application - limited research and shadowing - but other than that I thought everything looked pretty good.
I hope I don't come across like an entitled jerk, but I just don't understand why I haven't had any luck this cycle. While I am thinking about reapplying, there aren't any really obvious ways that I could dramatically improve my application. Engaged in research right now, but I won't be published in time for next cycle. I'm also turning 30 soon and the idea of waiting another year is less than appealing.
Is there anything I'm missing here other than the aforementioned research and shadowing? Would working as a CNA or EMT for the next six months be beneficial? And how bad is the reapplicant stigma? Is a few hundred hours of research considered a "significant improvement" or would my app just end up in the garbage if I reapplied to schools that have already rejected me?
Thanks,
Bill
Thank you very much for the kind words, 38. They are very much appreciated. Truly.
I was fortunate in that I found a number of people who were willing to proofread my PS. One of those people was an adcom member and one was a former adcom member. And, of course, each of them liked and disliked different aspects of my paper; it's definitely very subjective. I went through many drafts and ultimately I was satisfied with what I put together.
Regardless, I don't think a PS is likely to make or break a candidate. I think my failure this cycle is due largely to having such limited research experience and not being heavily involved in traditional pre-med activities (clubs, etc.) during undergrad. I will keep Barrons in mind, though, in case I do have to reapply. It certainly couldn't hurt!
Thanks again. Hope your cycle is going well.
-Bill
Don't worry. You're not alone. None my way eitherJan 19 and still no Interview 🙁
Cried a bit tonight, I am losing hope.
Try to keep your head up because the cycle is not over yet! ...really rooting for youJan 19 and still no Interview 🙁
Cried a bit tonight, I am losing hope.

I was suggesting that you use the book not to rewrite your PS (though it is helpful for that), but as a way of determining what specific experiences you want to pursue in a possible gap year. Perhaps something that could strengthen the themes that you already have in your application/or weave a new theme that reflects changes in your take on human health/the medical field over the past year, since you were concerned about how best to use that year to strengthen your app, especially since you asked, "Is a few hundred hours of research considered a "significant improvement." I do think that the PS helps set you apart from other applicants, who may have similar experiences and statistics, particularly if you present something tangible that adcoms can bite into. Namely, it gives them a picture of you and your potential and allows them to imagine you at their school. If they are interested in you as a person, they will want to meet/interview you. Also, are you planning on calling the schools that you applied to ask why you weren't extended an interview? That seems to be the general advice on SDN for people reapplying, and I'm sure any advice they can give is much more reliable/helpful than SDN can come up with.
You're not alone. Although i did get interviews, i don't have an acceptance and things are looking grim. I think I've somewhat come to terms with the 99% fact that i would have to reapply. There's nothing i can do except to continue with what im doing to strengthen my app.Jan 19 and still no Interview 🙁
Cried a bit tonight, I am losing hope.
You're not alone. Although i did get interviews, i don't have an acceptance and things are looking grim. I think I've somewhat come to terms with the 99% fact that i would have to reapply. There's nothing i can do except to continue with what im doing to strengthen my app.
It may seem like it, but the schools i was waitlisted at don't accept too many off the waitlists and they over-accept people as well, and for one of them i am on the regular, not the high priority waitlist (in other words a rejection). As for the other one, I will definitely send in updates and what not. I am still hoping for the best, and I really do hope things will work out for both of us and everyone in this thread. I am also not getting any more interviews and that has pretty much dampened my hope. Good luck with your app and I am glad you're still optimistic!Being on 2 wait lists isn't a 99% fact of reapplying. Although I am preparing to reapply as well (hope for the best, prepare for the worst). I am still very optimistic of our chances this cycle. Especially if you're being proactive about it.
This really sucks man!Don't worry. You're not alone. None my way either
Thanks dude, this process is killing me.Try to keep your head up because the cycle is not over yet! ...really rooting for you![]()
Dude at least schools thought you were good enough to extend an II! I am here just wondering when I would get the chance to prove myself.You're not alone. Although i did get interviews, i don't have an acceptance and things are looking grim. I think I've somewhat come to terms with the 99% fact that i would have to reapply. There's nothing i can do except to continue with what im doing to strengthen my app.
Just wanted to say that I love your avatar. ... but I also know your pain. 😕Those awkward moments of running into other families at the grocery store and hearing of their son/daughter being accepted to one school and the relief it brings; where as I just want something other than silence.
AHHHHH Now more Panic. I'm only 1 II for 30 schools, had about 10 waiting to hear from.
I decided to send update letters, except I made a boo boo.
My letter was copy and pasted, but I forgot I included one small sentence that was school specific. "If accepted, I would love to continue my free clinic volunteering at the EVMS HOPES clinic".
I sent this to like 6 of the schools through email!!!!
Should I call the admissions office and say I accidentally sent the wrong update and If I could remove it and readd it?
UGHH!!!!!!
AHHHHH Now more Panic. I'm only 1 II for 30 schools, had about 10 waiting to hear from.
I decided to send update letters, except I made a boo boo.
My letter was copy and pasted, but I forgot I included one small sentence that was school specific. "If accepted, I would love to continue my free clinic volunteering at the EVMS HOPES clinic".
I sent this to like 6 of the schools through email!!!!
Should I call the admissions office and say I accidentally sent the wrong update and If I could remove it and readd it?
UGHH!!!!!!
AHHHHH Now more Panic. I'm only 1 II for 30 schools, had about 10 waiting to hear from.
I decided to send update letters, except I made a boo boo.
My letter was copy and pasted, but I forgot I included one small sentence that was school specific. "If accepted, I would love to continue my free clinic volunteering at the EVMS HOPES clinic".
I sent this to like 6 of the schools through email!!!!
Should I call the admissions office and say I accidentally sent the wrong update and If I could remove it and readd it?
UGHH!!!!!!
Really nothing you can do, asking the admin office to replace an update letter would probably annoy them even more.
AHHHHH Now more Panic. I'm only 1 II for 30 schools, had about 10 waiting to hear from.
I decided to send update letters, except I made a boo boo.
My letter was copy and pasted, but I forgot I included one small sentence that was school specific. "If accepted, I would love to continue my free clinic volunteering at the EVMS HOPES clinic".
I sent this to like 6 of the schools through email!!!!
Should I call the admissions office and say I accidentally sent the wrong update and If I could remove it and readd it?
UGHH!!!!!!
Yuck. That's disappointing. Hopefully you hear good news soon -- It's something that you're still under consideration!Received an email with the subject: Application update from a school where I interviewed in September but haven't heard any news. My emotional rolacoaster as follows:
I was working out when I received the email. Had to get myself out of the gym and sit down before reading any further. Read the first line and realized it wasn't along the lines of "congratulations..." and closed out of the email to calm myself before reading further. Read through the whole email few times before deciding it wasn't a rejection but rather a continuing to evaluate email. Called myself an idiot for being so dramatic before going back and pumping some iron..... FML






Yuck. That's disappointing. Hopefully you hear good news soon -- It's something that you're still under consideration!
However, you can be proud of the fact that you are POST NUMBER 2000 IN THIS YEAR'S PANIC THREAD!!!
... every little victory counts, right?
Yep. Easy for me to be positive when it comes to others, but my "under considerations" sure feel like rejections to me. Ah well. Only a few more months left of this nonsense... 7 down, 3-4 to go.Very true. Its hard to be a "glass half full" kinda person while going through this depressing process but its important to keep things in perspective.
I wouldn't expect much from those 6 schools. I cant remember where I read it but I remember reading from an ADCOMM member that this is a big turn off. It may have been for secondary essays though. I'm not sure how that would apply to update/LOI. As far as asking to remove it, that would just draw too much attention to the mistake. Best to take that chance that they wont read the whole letter which is a high probability.
Same, it seems like everyone I meet these days is in medical school/applying for medical school but has a gajillion interviews/has a family member who is a doctor, and I just want to break down and cry.Those awkward moments of running into other families at the grocery store and hearing of their son/daughter being accepted to one school and the relief it brings; where as I just want something other than silence.
Same, it seems like everyone I meet these days is in medical school/applying for medical school but has a gajillion interviews/has a family member who is a doctor, and I just want to break down and cry.
I had one interview (33% chance, anyone?) and currently have none pending. Just spent the weekend hanging out with 2 friends (one at UCSF, other at Yale) and one friend who is also applying but already has 3 IIs, including at the school I just interview from (our alma mater), and 1 acceptance. I have zero acceptances so far. Trying to be cautiously optimistic without getting my hopes way too far up to prevent major devastation come no more interviews/acceptances (knock on wood). But killing all hope is sooooo hard... 🙁
My email box is going to sit forever empty...
Here, here... Good luck to you 🙂 (Stay positive!)Same, it seems like everyone I meet these days is in medical school/applying for medical school but has a gajillion interviews/has a family member who is a doctor, and I just want to break down and cry.
I had one interview (33% chance, anyone?) and currently have none pending. Just spent the weekend hanging out with 2 friends (one at UCSF, other at Yale) and one friend who is also applying but already has 3 IIs, including at the school I just interview from (our alma mater), and 1 acceptance. I have zero acceptances so far. Trying to be cautiously optimistic without getting my hopes way too far up to prevent major devastation come no more interviews/acceptances (knock on wood). But killing all hope is sooooo hard... 🙁
My email box is going to sit forever empty...
Same, it seems like everyone I meet these days is in medical school/applying for medical school but has a gajillion interviews/has a family member who is a doctor, and I just want to break down and cry.
I had one interview (33% chance, anyone?) and currently have none pending. Just spent the weekend hanging out with 2 friends (one at UCSF, other at Yale) and one friend who is also applying but already has 3 IIs, including at the school I just interview from (our alma mater), and 1 acceptance. I have zero acceptances so far. Trying to be cautiously optimistic without getting my hopes way too far up to prevent major devastation come no more interviews/acceptances (knock on wood). But killing all hope is sooooo hard... 🙁
My email box is going to sit forever empty...
Yep. Easy for me to be positive when it comes to others, but my "under considerations" sure feel like rejections to me. Ah well. Only a few more months left of this nonsense... 7 down, 3-4 to go.
I feel you. I'm in the same position. When would you know by? My fingers/toes/heart/any limbs crossed for good news for both of us.This process is so draining sometimes. I only had one interview, so this cycle completely depends on their decision. I'm a planner by nature, so the uncertainty is pretty tough. I have no idea what comes next until I hear back, and constantly being in limbo is really starting to get to me.
Any time from now until March. Apparently the adcom meets once a week and goes over 40-50 applications at each meeting, so who knows when they will get to me. I'm a very borderline candidate, so I'm assuming that if I get in, it'll be towards the end. Who knows, though. I go over everything in my head constantly and wonder if my strengths (high GPA, great LORs, interview went really well) will ultimately overcome my weaknesses (29 MCAT, low amount of clinical volunteering).I feel you. I'm in the same position. When would you know by? My fingers/toes/heart/any limbs crossed for good news for both of us.
There are definitely days where a rejection almost sounds better than more waiting.Also, finally got a rejection email today. Hey, atleast it's something.
Any time from now until March. Apparently the adcom meets once a week and goes over 40-50 applications at each meeting, so who knows when they will get to me. I'm a very borderline candidate, so I'm assuming that if I get in, it'll be towards the end. Who knows, though. I go over everything in my head constantly and wonder if my strengths (high GPA, great LORs, interview went really well) will ultimately overcome my weaknesses (29 MCAT, low amount of clinical volunteering).
What about you?
There are definitely days where a rejection almost sounds better than more waiting.