You can still be on the waitlists if you're PTE. Just not when you're CTE - and every school has their unique CTE deadline. It typically is ~3 weeks before orientation.
I meant more along the lines of what the AdComs of my WL schools might think when they see that I've PTE at another school (since after April 30th, all my WL schools can see that I PTE at a school that's not them). I'm just not sure if I should reach out to my 3 WLs somehow just letting them know that I would matriculate to their school over my current PTE acceptance.
What do you mean? Like if you've been accepted to X school and your friend is accepted to Y school and you want to switch? Pretty sure that's not a thing.
Have you sent a letter of interest/update? Cuz you can just send one of those (that's what I did) saying you'd matriculate to their school over your current As
I think it's school-dependent. We don't really know what AdComs think. Some people may argue that schools would rather take students who have no PTEs to ensure they get a full class. But at the same time, not having a PTE can make an applicant look bad if no other school wants them either. For the your WL schools, send a letter of intent to your top choice and then a letter of interest or update to the other two. Just to make sure they know you're still interested and it gives you space to acknowledge that you have been accepted elsewhere but you are more interested in their school.
I did send 1 LOIntent and 2 LOInterests to my 3 WLs, and I was so stupid to not mention my current A (because I didn't know back then that after April 30th, schools can see that you were accepted somewhere). I was under the impression that schools won't know of anything until you CTE. :/
Totally my pleasure!! 🙂
Yea, exactly. I saw somebody asked for position swap in the residency match threads, so I'm curious if similar things ever happened in the med school application world.
AAMC put out a press release months ago saying applications were up 18% this cycle.
www.ama-assn.org
It happens every year. This is exactly how the system is designed to work after 4/30.
Just looking for some clarification because from my understanding, schools can only see PTE for those they accept. So even if you PTE somewhere else, schools can't see this until after they've accepted you/wouldn't affect your chances of coming off the WL. Did I misunderstand something?
It doesn't happen, but that would be cool. Med schools tend to be very particular about who they accept/what their particular class needs in order to be a balanced class.
I might be missing something, but what benefit do people get from withdrawing from the WL at schools this early? (As opposed to waiting for them to potentially turn into A's and withdrawing afterwards) I feel like most people will just hold onto those WLs just to see if they get accepted, even if they have mentally committed to one school already lol.
Oh okay, I didn't know that this was common for most schools. I just wanted to keep my WL schools in the dark regarding my acceptance lol.
Yes, you misunderstood. Your WL schools can also see this.
Some do, but many don't. If you have your #1 school and are happy with the financial situation, there really is nothing to be gained by playing games, and most people just give up the spot so someone who really wants/needs it can have it.
Definitely send to both. The LOI based on when you send it is not mutually exclusive and still truthful. Given no other changes, you would attend if they gave your the A. If two changes occur, the LOI is no longer valid. Send to both WL schools!
It is this kind of behavior that poisons the water for everyone.
Bad advice. Only ever send one letter of intent. Ultimately, you can only ever attend one school even if you "commit" to two. Plus people who send more than one ruin it for everyone else
There is always hope for the future, one step at a time.
Can someone spare an acceptance tho...your girl needs ONE
Was the LOI a lie if after sending it the first school offers you a full scholarship thereby shifting the equation and your intent? I don't see a difference, new info changes the Intent previously communicated before the need info.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong:
there are some things that are just blatantly wrong with your statements/thoughts.
#1 has an angle of bias depending in the candidate... If you are holding Acdeptamces when you write it, you are implying to thr WL school it is your preference over existing Acceptances. Other candidates with no A's can't state this since they can't refer a current A. And yet other candidates, send an Intent that is true but don't indicate it is dependent on Aid provided by the WL school tombe chosen over current Acceptance and aid package. Are you saying in this last example the student can't send an LOI?
yes correct. the student should utilize letter of INTEREST. If the student's decision is dependent on factors, she/he is not ready to commit to that school, which, btw, is totally fine.
no it is not. if it's an unexpected scholarship that changes the decision, then I'd sent a letter to the school that I sent a LOIntent to and explain what happened because I would be breaking the promise that I made. Plus, if I truly want to attend a school to the point where I make a firm promise with the school, a scholarship from another school that I am not interested in should not change my mind -> this is the whole point of letter of intent. Also a full ride is not as common as getting off two waitlists. My point is, if it's a truly unexpected/surprise full ride, nothing can be controlled. it's an honest mistake. However, you are suggesting "what if"s to an applicant, which changes the whole tone. nobody should be depending on "if"s.
bold of you to assume that it's just a single applicant pulling this crap on admissions. Why do you think adcoms on SDN are strongly against your words when they are experts at this process? We all know that a single applicant can only attend one school, but that doesn't mean she/he can be unethical during the process just to achieve that one A. Let's try to be e t h i c a l. ya?
LOL sorry, I won't be replying anymore because I love this thread too. Just got a bit heated up but I do not want to cause a locked thread
Why would you send an intent if you would be willing to change your mind?
I apologize if what I said came off as pointing fingers or implying blame. That was not my intention at all. I don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable for whatever they say.
no worries 🙂 thank you for your reply though!
Just kick the parents off please.
Your comment was so polite and really pleasant to read. Grateful for this community 💕
I suspect there will be a fair number of 'name change' requests by this time next month. Best of luck everyone
fairly certain you should be able to
4/30 has been around forever, but the system was very different prior to 2019. So, the good news is you only have to worry about going back two cycles. The bad news is that you only have two cycles worth of relevant data, and, one can argue, nothing that came before will be truly relevant to the once-in-a-lifetime pandemic cycle.
Important to remember that for many schools, the interview isn't a binary decision point. Referencing our favorite staircase analogy, in some instances, even a very good interview may not hold enough weight to merit an outright post-interview acceptance. Also, while your interviewer can be a huge advocate for your candidacy, they are also just one voice amongst many in the entire admissions committee.
