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spmed said:
I'm late on here but... OOS A + REACH nomination!!!!! I'm genuinely in disbelief
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with 20 interviews and 9 As i don't think u have anything to be in disbelief about!! huge congratulations!! <3
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spmed said:
I'm late on here but... OOS A + REACH nomination!!!!! I'm genuinely in disbelief
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Congrats! I have seen you on so many threads just wracking up the As at amazing schools, you will have quite the decision to make between Yale and Harvard.
 
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What is the difference between reach and the general need based scholarship?
 
swag1 said:
just noticed this but how's your squat not heavier than your bench that's wild lowkey
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I bench around 275 and I had a knee injury that prevented me from working out my legs for A WHILE, so I focused on upper body and then just havent done as much squatting since.
 
I'm strongly leaning toward deferring my acceptance, and whether I will be able to is a major factor in my med school choice. If anyone knows anything about how likely Harvard is to grant deferrals and how to propose a compelling deferral plan, I would really appreciate your thoughts!
 
applesarecool said:
What is the difference between reach and the general need based scholarship?
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The general need based scholarship is provided at baseline for students that demonstrate need. I'm a current student here, for me that involved paying my entire tuition. REACH is an additional amount of money on top of the need based scholarship. It's a mix of merit/need based. I was able to get my entire cost of attendance covered for. HMS scholarship + REACH can essentially grant you a full ride to HMS
 
Beatles08 said:
The general need based scholarship is provided at baseline for students that demonstrate need. I'm a current student here, for me that involved paying my entire tuition. REACH is an additional amount of money on top of the need based scholarship. It's a mix of merit/need based. I was able to get my entire cost of attendance covered for. HMS scholarship + REACH can essentially grant you a full ride to HMS
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can you apply for a REACH scholarship post-acceptance?
 
cashyolan said:
can you apply for a REACH scholarship post-acceptance?
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No, it's something that the admissions committee has to nominate you for. There is no say who will get or (or not), until you get your HMS acceptance
 
betterwithfruit said:
I'm strongly leaning toward deferring my acceptance, and whether I will be able to is a major factor in my med school choice. If anyone knows anything about how likely Harvard is to grant deferrals and how to propose a compelling deferral plan, I would really appreciate your thoughts!
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I’m thinking of deferral potentially too. I’ve heard they accept both personal and professional deferrals only anecdotally
 
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Hi! applying for EY 2026 and had a quick question as i'm asking my LOR folks. does harvard essentially want a letter from every activity labeled "Research/Lab" on AMCAS?
 
goofygoober6 said:
How are there so many people already in it — was it in an email I missed? I only saw the FB group
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I don’t remember where it was I saw it, it was probably hidden in one of the portals or 100 emails they sent out over the last week or two
 
hey yall! do you guys think a 3.8 sgpa and 3.79 cgpa would potentially close the door to an interview or potential acceptance to HMS? Just wondering how much of a chance I might have..
 
med400 said:
hey yall! do you guys think a 3.8 sgpa and 3.79 cgpa would potentially close the door to an interview or potential acceptance to HMS? Just wondering how much of a chance I might have..
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I had 3.83 sgpa and 3.66 cgpa and got an interview and pathways A, but I went to MIT which is known for its grade deflation, so it might depend on what school you went to. But I assume it definitely wouldn't close the door if you have other amazing things in your application.
 
med400 said:
hey yall! do you guys think a 3.8 sgpa and 3.79 cgpa would potentially close the door to an interview or potential acceptance to HMS? Just wondering how much of a chance I might have..
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Honestly MCAT is king, like if you have a 3.7+ (and 3.6+ should be fine if you went to huge grade deflators like MIT, Caltech, or Princeton like pi-astronaut) and 518+ you're most likely golden stats-wise.
 
restingduck said:
Honestly MCAT is king, like if you have a 3.7+ (and 3.6+ should be fine if you went to huge grade deflators like MIT, Caltech, or Princeton like pi-astronaut) and 518+ you're most likely golden stats-wise.
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This is very reassuring, thank you! The reason I'm confused is because on MSAR, it seems like their stats are much higher than what I have GPA-wise... Is MSAR inaccurate then? I have a bit over 20 credits of post-bacc at a 4.0 which brought my sgpa up from a 3.78 to a 3.8 (I did it to fulfill some pre-reqs), I'm not sure if that would make a huge difference though.
 
pi-astronaut said:
I had 3.83 sgpa and 3.66 cgpa and got an interview and pathways A, but I went to MIT which is known for its grade deflation, so it might depend on what school you went to. But I assume it definitely wouldn't close the door if you have other amazing things in your application.
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Thank you for your response! I'm a Canadian applicant so I didn't go to any US schools, and in Canada, there's no such thing as Ivy schools. Do you know how they might look at retakes for MCAT as well? I have one retake
 
med400 said:
This is very reassuring, thank you! The reason I'm confused is because on MSAR, it seems like their stats are much higher than what I have GPA-wise... Is MSAR inaccurate then? I have a bit over 20 credits of post-bacc at a 4.0 which brought my sgpa up from a 3.78 to a 3.8 (I did it to fulfill some pre-reqs), I'm not sure if that would make a huge difference though.
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It’s not that it’s inaccurate but more that since GPA isn’t standardized, MCAT average are FAR more important. Below 3.7 or 3.6 (for grade deflation schools) however, GPA could hurt a bit. But of course a 3.5/521 has a much better chance than 3.8/515. Hope the helps and anyone can chime in if they think differently!
 
restingduck said:
It’s not that it’s inaccurate but more that since GPA isn’t standardized, MCAT average are FAR more important. Below 3.7 or 3.6 (for grade deflation schools) however, GPA could hurt a bit. But of course a 3.5/521 has a much better chance than 3.8/515. Hope the helps and anyone can chime in if they think differently!
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That actually makes a ton of sense!! Thank you so much for clarifying that... do you know how they might view a retake? If the second score is near 520s, do you think the first one would have an impact on the application? Thank you again for your input! I hope this cycle went amazing for you
 
med400 said:
That actually makes a ton of sense!! Thank you so much for clarifying that... do you know how they might view a retake? If the second score is near 520s, do you think the first one would have an impact on the application? Thank you again for your input! I hope this cycle went amazing for you
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Most schools just consider your most recent score, a few superscore (Vanderbilt), and maybe 1-2 average (Jefferson). Honestly, all schools may view a retake differently and all of it is under wraps but I'd assume Harvard just considers most recent (I think you should ask someone else about HMS specifically to confirm if possible). Of course retaking is worse than getting your goal score at first but it's by no means a deal breaker (but dropping in score or scoring the same may indicate poor judgement). Good luck on your retake!
 
restingduck said:
Most schools just consider your most recent score, a few superscore (Vanderbilt), and maybe 1-2 average (Jefferson). Honestly, all schools may view a retake differently and all of it is under wraps but I'd assume Harvard just considers most recent (I think you should ask someone else about HMS specifically to confirm if possible). Of course retaking is worse than getting your goal score at first but it's by no means a deal breaker (but dropping in score or scoring the same may indicate poor judgement). Good luck on your retake!
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Thank you for the advice!! Would it be alright if I private messaged you for some questions/advice? Thanks again!
 
med400 said:
That actually makes a ton of sense!! Thank you so much for clarifying that... do you know how they might view a retake? If the second score is near 520s, do you think the first one would have an impact on the application? Thank you again for your input! I hope this cycle went amazing for you
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my first MCAT was 507 and my second was 518, so make of that what you will lol
 
med400 said:
This is very reassuring, thank you! The reason I'm confused is because on MSAR, it seems like their stats are much higher than what I have GPA-wise... Is MSAR inaccurate then? I have a bit over 20 credits of post-bacc at a 4.0 which brought my sgpa up from a 3.78 to a 3.8 (I did it to fulfill some pre-reqs), I'm not sure if that would make a huge difference though.
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you have to remember that MSAR has averages and percentiles. When I applied, MSAR didn't include the lows of the mcats/gpa's accepted. My MCAT, by definition, was even lower than the 10th percentile if I remember correctly. I had a 3.9+ GPA and still got accepted (I'm a third year now and doing extremely well here). I know many other students here who have the same stats. The process is truly holistic, especially at HMS. Your story matters and counts for a lot. Shoot your shot, don't count yourself out. This goes for every school, you NEVER know what they're looking for. This doesn't mean to apply to all "reach" schools if it's truly out of the ballpark of your stats, but apply to some for the hell of it. That's what I did for HMS!
 
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Beatles08 said:
you have to remember that MSAR has averages and percentiles. When I applied, MSAR didn't include the lows of the mcats/gpa's accepted. My MCAT, by definition, was even lower than the 10th percentile if I remember correctly. I had a 3.9+ GPA and still got accepted (I'm a third year now and doing extremely well here). I know many other students here who have the same stats. The process is truly holistic, especially at HMS. Your story matters and counts for a lot. Shoot your shot, don't count yourself out. This goes for every school, you NEVER know what they're looking for. This doesn't mean to apply to all "reach" schools if it's truly out of the ballpark of your stats, but apply to some for the hell of it. That's what I did for HMS!
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Thank you so much for the advice! Could I PM you with some additional questions?
 
Current student FYI-- Grading system may change in the near future. Nothing is confirmed, but there are lots of discussions right now. It might be worth asking about as you think about what school will be the right fit for you.

NEJM-- DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2415777
 
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BetaBlockMyAnxiety said:
Current student FYI-- Grading system may change in the near future. Nothing is confirmed, but there are lots of discussions right now. It might be worth asking about as you think about what school will be the right fit for you.

NEJM-- DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2415777
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someone asked about this on admitted students day (we were all wondering), got very hand wavey and/or passive aggressive answers and one admin also alluded to the hp/p/f structure at other schools. But it seems to be that they are still organizing task forces and such... I can't really imagine them rolling this out for c/o 2029

"We worry about the perpetuation of a “shadow economy,” in which students increasingly pursue research, volunteer, and work experiences — often prioritizing quantity of experiences over quality — at the expense of clinical learning. Furthermore, incentives that push students away from clinical learning and caregiving may undermine their sense of purpose"

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Anyone from admit weekend have any insights into whether people seemed to be leaning to commit to HMS or other schools like Hopkins (esp given more aid from hopkins now)? On WL rn for pathways lol
 
also if anyone has any advice for post-WL LOI's pls let me know!
 
swag1 said:
Anyone from admit weekend have any insights into whether people seemed to be leaning to commit to HMS or other schools like Hopkins (esp given more aid from hopkins now)? On WL rn for pathways lol
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n=1 but everyone i spoke to admitted to both is choosing hms
 
BetaBlockMyAnxiety said:
Current student FYI-- Grading system may change in the near future. Nothing is confirmed, but there are lots of discussions right now. It might be worth asking about as you think about what school will be the right fit for you.

NEJM-- DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2415777
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Any more insight you can add? Would this affect current admits or just future applicants? Not going to H but I’m hearing whispers of this at other p/f schools…
 
has anyone else been ghosted by the financial aid office? I submitted everything before the deadline and haven't heard anything
 
swag1 said:
Anyone from admit weekend have any insights into whether people seemed to be leaning to commit to HMS or other schools like Hopkins (esp given more aid from hopkins now)? On WL rn for pathways lol
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from what I heard from students it seemed 50/50 but this was not exclusive to hopkins
 
swag1 said:
Anyone from admit weekend have any insights into whether people seemed to be leaning to commit to HMS or other schools like Hopkins (esp given more aid from hopkins now)? On WL rn for pathways lol
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Heard some folks are leaning toward NYU or Penn. Harvard took 203 this year—if the usual 71.8% yield holds, around 146 will accept. So maybe ~20 spots open up off the waitlist, but it really depends year to year and by track (Pathways, HST, MD/PhD).

Verbatim from Mr. Macrophage in the Cornell thread: "Many yield rates are available in the admit.org master document. Here is the admit t20 reordered by yield rate. Cornell is bolded

1: Harvard (71.80%)
2: Stanford (58.06%)
3: UTSW (57.71%)
4: UCSF (56.47%)
5: Penn (56.36%)
6: Pittsburgh (54.61%)
7: Mayo Clinic (50.47%)
8: NYU (49.76%)
9: UCLA (48.61%)
10: Columbia (46.66%)
11: Michigan (44.09%)
12: Duke (43.50%)
13: Johns Hopkins (42.60%)
14: Mt. Sinai (39.55%)
15: Northwestern (39.40%)
16: Cornell (36.18%)
17: UChicago (35.86%)
18: WashU (35.02%)
19: Yale (34.77%)
20: Vanderbilt (28.19%)"
 
Is there an updated version of the master document for 2025? I think these rankings are from last year
 
Daris said:
Heard some folks are leaning toward NYU or Penn. Harvard took 203 this year—if the usual 71.8% yield holds, around 146 will accept. So maybe ~20 spots open up off the waitlist, but it really depends year to year and by track (Pathways, HST, MD/PhD).

Verbatim from Mr. Macrophage in the Cornell thread: "Many yield rates are available in the admit.org master document. Here is the admit t20 reordered by yield rate. Cornell is bolded

1: Harvard (71.80%)
2: Stanford (58.06%)
3: UTSW (57.71%)
4: UCSF (56.47%)
5: Penn (56.36%)
6: Pittsburgh (54.61%)
7: Mayo Clinic (50.47%)
8: NYU (49.76%)
9: UCLA (48.61%)
10: Columbia (46.66%)
11: Michigan (44.09%)
12: Duke (43.50%)
13: Johns Hopkins (42.60%)
14: Mt. Sinai (39.55%)
15: Northwestern (39.40%)
16: Cornell (36.18%)
17: UChicago (35.86%)
18: WashU (35.02%)
19: Yale (34.77%)
20: Vanderbilt (28.19%)"
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Do you know if it is 203 people across Pathways/HST/MSTP? It's a little confusing because people can hold acceptances to more than 1 one of these programs as well
 
swag1 said:
Do you know if it is 203 people across Pathways/HST/MSTP? It's a little confusing because people can hold acceptances to more than 1 one of these programs as well
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not sure. the dean just told us 203 were accepted.
 
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