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[supershorty]

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Google the text quickly. Is it a real audio diary clip?

Yes, it is.

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm not sure what her village meta is.

Her village meta is much more talkative and uninhibited. She's willing to push back back on more, makes more fluff posts, more concerned with catching wolves than how everyone is reading her. Even antagonizing AM with amazing vegas drinks read more village-samac.

As a wolf she was much more careful. Even with her votes she was avoiding wagons that game from what I can remember.

 

[Trilt]

Yes, it is.

Mine was too, and while I hate to ignore information the mods are dropping (I've seen people ignore literally game solving data from similar type items while modding before) the fact that they seem to be from the game makes me feel that it might just be flavour.

 

[supershorty]

Mine was too, and while I hate to ignore information the mods are dropping (I've seen people ignore literally game solving data from similar type items while modding before) the fact that they seem to be from the game makes me feel that it might just be flavour.

Yeah, I don't want to spend a ton of time on it, but I figured it wouldn't do anyone any good if I kept it to myself and I'd rather get the information into the thread just in case it did help us with game solving.

 

[samac]

I want to see what cray’s got today. Last cycle she was so focused on catching a neutral (which trilt seemed to confirm was likely truly neutral) it could have been an easy way to try and stay off a village wagon.
She also threw out mention of a possible cult yesterday, which I have to say after playing in the noob game they’d likely have won by now since we haven’t gotten one. That could have been a confusion tactic from a wolf.

 

[supershorty]

@samac How are you feeling about Trouts and MsP?

 

[supershorty]

I'm hoping @jaboo is able to contribute more this game day because other than the early push on Zenge, we really haven't seen much from her.

 

[Lawpy]

Going to continue with this from D7:

unyeet samacs
yeet MSP

 

[LetItSnow]

I miss @LetItSnow

Sorry. Was in my weekend of work. Covid-era ER came roaring back this weekend and I am utterly exhausted and I am ready to open a can of whoop-ass on the next client that insists on calling every 5 minutes from their car to ask when the doctor will call them because gosh I've been waiting an ENTIRE 1 hour and this is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE and blah blah blah flippity blah. Like, go siddown and shut up and I'll see you when I am damn well good and ready.

On/off trying to catch up.

 

[LetItSnow]

Okay, I just isoed and apparently that was more than 24 hours ago. It was during the night cycle. So, no.

Just to clarify, there was no silencing or anything.

No reason to believe me, of course, but it was pure real-life getting in the way.

 

[samac]

@samac How are you feeling about Trouts and MsP?

Trilt has tonally read as village to me. Looking up the DubZ spreadsheets to define neutral felt like a village move to put effort into not wasting a yeet on something non wolfy.

MsP is a yeet I can live with, but do we think there’s likely 1-2 wolves left?

 

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SRSLY?

C'mon Wildzoo. You gives me, like $1 at a time, and jack the prices to > $100?

You're a mean tease.

 

[holdthemayo]

SRSLY?

C'mon Wildzoo. You gives me, like $1 at a time, and jack the prices to > $100?

You're a mean tease.

I don't know how people are getting money.

Maybe we were supposed to be looting the corpses?

 

[supershorty]

Trilt has tonally read as village to me. Looking up the DubZ spreadsheets to define neutral felt like a village move to put effort into not wasting a yeet on something non wolfy.

MsP is a yeet I can live with, but do we think there’s likely 1-2 wolves left?

I think so. If we're going off the 20-25% nonvillage estimate, knowing that there's at least 1 neutral, a total of 5 or 6 wolves seems likely.

 

[supershorty]

I don't know how people are getting money.

Maybe we were supposed to be looting the corpses?

Well I can confirm from my mod pm that asking politely for more money does not seem to be the way to get more money.
Asking politely and adding "would you kindly" also does not seem to be the way to get more money.

 

[Trilt]

SRSLY?

C'mon Wildzoo. You gives me, like $1 at a time, and jack the prices to > $100?

You're a mean tease.

Hey don't go dissing Dubz.

One of those times I got a dollar, they did the math wrong.

And they let me keep the extra dollar!

Spoiler: dolla dolla bills y'all

 

[LetItSnow]

#### contingency yeet Please ####

Also looking at MsP today. I want to flip Mayo but I'll give it a rest for now.

@LetItSnow I'd love for you to weigh in on what you think we should do about the player that didn't die by yeet (Please) and the known 3P (Mayo).

I really, really want to see what LIS will want to do.

I need to finish. I am literally as far as this post.

You - or whoever said it - is right that I'm a fan of re-lynch.

In this case, I am not as convinced we have the time that you (Cray) think we have, and I'm leaning a bit toward AM's argument that we may have to find another wolf first.

Bottom line -- will come back to this as I get closer to end of thread.

At this moment, I lean toward MsP lynch.

A little compelled by AM's post about looking at Cray's interactions with wolves; I just wish AM had posted the exact interactions because I know I won't have time to find them.

 

[supershorty]

I need to finish. I am literally as far as this post.

You - or whoever said it - is right that I'm a fan of re-lynch.

In this case, I am not as convinced we have the time that you (Cray) think we have, and I'm leaning a bit toward AM's argument that we may have to find another wolf first.

I know you're still catching up so you'll get to this eventually, but the re-lynch candidate died overnight and flipped village so we don't have to worry about her at this point.

 

[LetItSnow]

I know you're still catching up so you'll get to this eventually, but the re-lynch candidate died overnight and flipped village so we don't have to worry about her at this point.

Yeah. Turns out that post by Cray was basically at the end, so I just figured that all out.

Now I'm even more compelled by AM's comment about Cray since AM flipped village.

Still ok with MsP lynch.

For now:

lynch MsP

but I might give thought to going off rez and changing to Cray just because I know AM was paying more attention. But before I do that I'd need to go find the last actual list of AM's reads.

 

[Barkley13]

My brain can't deal with vote trackers but staring at these help sometimes

Day 1 Final Tally:

genny (3) - AM, Zenge, supershorty
April (2) - katashark, Cyndia
MsP (1) - pawprints
Trilt (1) - sunshinefl
Visc (1) - Lawpy
vetschoolsplease (4) - Cray, Barks, MsP, trilt
Lupin (1) - Chaos
mayo (1) - Lupin
Zenge (3) - April, genny, Sporty
katashark (2) - LIS, alissa
alleycat (1) - Dina
alissa (6) - vetschoolsplease, alleycat, mayo, Viscernable, mkg, jaboo

25/26

Day 2 Final Tally

Zenge (14) - jaboo, Dina, vetschoolsplz, supershorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Viscernable, Lupin , AM, alleycat, mkg
katashark (1) - pawprints
genny (1) - Cyndia
vetschoolsplz (3) - Cray, MsP, Zenge
mkg (1) - Chaostrodon
Viscernable (2) - Trilt, kata

22/22

Day 3 Final Tally

Viscernable (10) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, katashark, pawprints, Barks, jaboo
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
alleycat (4) - Lupin, LIS, mkg, Lawpy
LIS (1) - Chaostrodon
pawprintsandponytails (1) - Cyndia
AM (5) - supershorty, mayo, Viscernable, vetschoolsplz, alleycat

22/22

Day 4 Final Tally

katashark (6) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jaboo, shorty
alleycat (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, Cyndia, vetschoolsplz, cray
Cray (6) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos, alley

18/19
Missing: kata

Day 5 Final Tally

Cyndia (8) - AM, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo, samac, Chaostrodon
samac (4) - supershorty, Barks, Dina, Lawpy
pawprints (5) - jaboo, vetschoolsplz, Cyndia, MsP, Cray

17/17

Day 6 Final Tally

samac (2) - Barks, Chaostrodon
Chaostrodon (1) - Cray
Trilt (2) - AM, Lawpy
pawprints (8) - Trilt, Lupin, MsP, vetschoolsplz, supershorty, samac, jaboo, mayo
mayo (1) - LIS

14/15
Missing: pawprints

Day 7 Final Tally

vetschoolsplz (8) - MsP, AM, mayo, Lupin, Barks, Trilt, samac, jaboo
mayo (1) - Cray
MsP (4) - Lawpy, supershorty, vetschoolsplz, Chaostrodon

13/14
Missing: LIS

 

[Lawpy]

Oof D4. If the bussing theory holds, Cray is more likely to be wolf than katamacs

 

[LetItSnow]

That D4 lynch still sure looks wrong.

 

[WildZoo]

night closed. DubZ is at work, I will be processing closure of THE NIGHT

Why is the night in shouty capitals? 🤔

Flavo(u)r

I took it as a Batman reference

 

[Barkley13]

vetschoolsplease (4) - Cray, Barks, MsP, trilt

Would not be suprised if one of these 3 from the D1 please vote was a wolf

 

[holdthemayo]

I agree with the above.

Cray's VCA looks the worst, especially with how D4 played out. I'm comfortable pushing in that direction for now.

Yeet Cray

 

[WildZoo]

I'm tallying so hang onto yer butts (and check ur votes)

 

[WildZoo]

Day 8: Tombstones for Paving Tiles Vote Tally


samac () -
MsP (3) - supershorty, lawpy, LIS
cray (1) - mayo

4/12
Winning: @Ms Procrastinator
Missing: most

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/16/21 (~32 hours)

 

[supershorty]

I'm good with either a MsP or a Cray yeet at this point, but I want to make my case for MsP:

First, there was my ISO, which is linked HERE (if I quote it into this post, it'll lose the quotes in the ISO itself):

Spoiler: More quotes stuff (mostly post-ISO)

Then there was this questioning yesterday, which may or may not be wolfy, but I feel like it's a little weird to not remember this from the last game she played.

Who was in her pack when she was a wolf?

genny, Vissy, and April. Why?

The people in a pack can make a lot of difference, especially for newbies. How long did genny live?

Voted out day 1 if memory serves (and this is referring to my There Be Basics game)

I was going to put a response but I felt that I made my point in the post when I asked the question. Who is in a pack can determine how a noob acts and how a noob acted as a wolf once might not be how they act another time.

Yeah, please only wolfed once, but the pack was made up similarly to what's flipped so far, and she's villaged more than she's wolfed. Sure, one wolfing outing isn't a lot to go on, but it doesn't mean that we should just dismiss it entirely.

The whole reason I felt okay having Zenge as a villager D1 was because he straight out said he was yeeting me regardless of whether or not I was a wolf because my play last game was anti-village. I felt comfortable with him after he said this because I thought there was no way a wolf would admit on thread that they were trying to yeet a villager.

Seems like a really easy thing for a wolf to say under the guise of being pro-village, not sure I follow your logic in this statement.

This response the other day bothered me and still bothers me because it makes no sense. Of course a wolf could and would say something like that.

It would be a real tragedy if I went to sleep and woke up dead. It would be really horrible if I didn't make it any closer to VOLO (which I hate). Just putting it out there

I always get pings when someone talks about either how they expect to be killed (unless they've done something like a major role reveal) or asks the wolves to kill them. Maybe it's WIFOM, maybe it's not, but it's weird. Also, why even bring up VOLO when there are still so many people left and unlikely to be many wolves at this point?

Although I'm pretty sure pleasy is village, my biggest fear is that we both end up village and the actual wolves aren't on anyone's radar which would make VOLO hell. I really wanted a pleasy flip

A couple of us caught this slip before MsP edited it to change village to wolf, but village is not exactly an easy typo from wolf.

I fixed it. I meant wolf

It's 11PM shorty

Hmmmm.

What's all this about a camera?

You gonna answer shorty?

You gonna read the thread? It's been discussed plenty.

There was a lot of discussion on the different camera-related notifications so seems kind of weird to not know what it was and then get testy about a hmm react.

There are also a few things that by themselves didn't really ping me, but now I wonder about them a little bit - I'm just not sure if they make me wonder more about MsP or Cray. MsP seemed absolutely certain that I was post restricted by wolves (and that seemed like a reasonable conclusion to draw - I was assuming that too) but Cray was the one who called her out on her certainty. Didn't think anything of it at the time, but now it makes me wonder. I could make an argument about either one of them being wolfy in that interaction, so I don't want to put a lot of weight on it by itself.

That got longer than I thought so added spoilers.

 

[Chaostrodon]

Why modkill instead of sub

 

[Chaostrodon]

vote MsP

 

[Trilt]

Would not be suprised if one of these 3 from the D1 please vote was a wolf

But the big question is - am I more or less sketchy when you go back and see that I jumped on that lynch at the last minute so that alissa could potentially have the chance to self prez?

I was actually lynching katamac for most of the cycle. It's a bit of a trend of mine.

 

[WildZoo]

Why modkill instead of sub

No more subs available

 

[Lawpy]

No more subs available

One of these days i'll be lucky enough to sub into another role while currently playing

 

[Trilt]

Why modkill instead of sub

No subs left and it's pretty hard two weeks into a game lol.

 

[supershorty]

No subs left and it's pretty hard two weeks into a game lol.

I would not want to be the sub who had to get caught up on 129 pages 😱

 

[Lawpy]

I would not want to be the sub who had to get caught up on 129 pages 😱

I did it before at 70 pages so this would be fine

although this game would be a lot shorter if i didn't play

 

[samac]

I would not want to be the sub who had to get caught up on 129 pages 😱

I came in at 90 and it was a damn beast. I’m glad I followed along closely in the beginning as a tot lol

 

[Lawpy]

vote MsP

How are you reading cray

 

[LetItSnow]

Why modkill instead of sub

If I had to *guess* ... I'm thinking pleasy felt like a replacement at this point would just drive further "need to re-lynch!" whereas falling on the sword would answer the question and allow village to look elsewhere.

Not to mention; who wants to come into the game at this point and try and catch up? Literally 6000+ posts to read.

 

[LetItSnow]

Or never mind. I guess Kaydubs answered.

 

[Crayola227]

I was wondering about that when it happened, but felt like it was a crazy thought so didn’t say anything. I have time today, I can look through that thread and try to figure out why it could have been mentioned.

Cyndia randomly posted in the wrong game thread earlier on (and it wasn’t one of the most recent games so wasn’t a misclick). It was weird.

I’ll look at it today and see what I can find.

How will this lead to more wolves? Had someone else done this this game? Mayo?

I have played a game with an unseerable wolf. It's up to mods what they return as a result, "village" or "unseerable" or "error" or whatever. Tinfoil is to have one seer as neutral.

 

[Crayola227]

This is called angleshooting and we frown upon it

We frown upon using activity from outside game thread typically, but sometimes we do it anyway. If we're genuinely concerned a player is in a ditch somewhere.

If someone posts game posts in the wrong thread it can come up.

Otherwise I agree with you here.

 

[supershorty]

How will this lead to more wolves? Had someone else done this this game? Mayo?

I have played a game with an unseerable wolf. It's up to mods what they return as a result, "village" or "unseerable" or "error" or whatever. Tinfoil is to have one seer as neutral.

Cyndia was the only one who did. Honestly, I gave the other thread a quick skim and it seemed like it was a village bloodbath (at least up through the 3rd day and then I stopped reading and went back to this thread) so I think it's less likely that there was any significance to Cyndia's posting in that thread by accident because that game doesn't seem similar to how this game is going.

I don't know. Decided there were more important things to look into.

 

[Crayola227]

When I was rezzer (in a WZ game) it was a matter of if I could bring back a PR with their role or as a vanillager. The more nights I dedicated to the resurrection the higher the chance.

I haven't seen a wolf resurrection, but it seems within the realm of possibility.

Seems like it would be a bit more broken for a wolf rez. If we flip one then we know the other has to be a wolf. I don't really think jaboo or barks are a wolf anyway.



I missed this. Must have been a game I wasn't in.

I don't agree with the statement we'd know and it would be broken. You guys make too many assumptions about what can happen in a game.

 

[Trilt]

I want to see what cray’s got today. Last cycle she was so focused on catching a neutral (which trilt seemed to confirm was likely truly neutral) it could have been an easy way to try and stay off a village wagon.
She also threw out mention of a possible cult yesterday, which I have to say after playing in the noob game they’d likely have won by now since we haven’t gotten one. That could have been a confusion tactic from a wolf.

I would just like to clarify that I have no actual knowledge that Mayo is a true neutral. I just was getting really annoyed at people acting like neutral players weren't a thing and he HAD to be chaos or sketchy in some way or another.

I'll add that I don't know that I'd ignore him to end game unless given good reasons... there is precedent in the Bioshock games for making a choice between saving and harvesting Little Sisters (aka good and evil), so some variation of that would not be unreasonable in designing this game, either. But I think it's very much not something I'm worrying about right now and I'd personally want to hunt down at least another wolf first.

 

[Crayola227]

I used to fly a Centurion allllll over. I live in MN, and I took it to the Bahamas, to Toronto, several trips to California. Ours was super well-equipped - program the GPS, take off, flip a switch, and let the A/P fly the rest of the way while listening to music, chatting with the other people, or whatever.

Best thing ever. So much better than driving or flying commercial.

Quoting this to share with Cessna. @cessnaflyer is my partner and he doesn't actually fly a cessna, but whenever he tells people about his plane they ask him "Is that like a cessna?" So that's the joke.

 

[Trilt]

I don't agree with the statement we'd know and it would be broken. You guys make too many assumptions about what can happen in a game.

I just remember the game I modded where I very explicitly told people DO NOT USE ROLES TO DECIDE AFFILIATION.

Had a wolf short term rezzer. Wolf got called out on the role and had to use it mid game. Brought back a wolf (I think it was actually @LetItSnow) and the villagers were like oh, weird, guess that just happens sometimes!

And that was the very last wolf lynched at end game lol.

 

[Crayola227]

So I'm guessing wolves got AM and AM got pleasy

How did AM get pleasy when it says she was mod killed at Please's request?

Really pretty annoyed Please did that honestly.

 

[Crayola227]

Why? Unless they are laser-focused on wolf hunting and successfully doing it, why kill them? They don't hurt your wolfy win-con, killing them takes away one villager NK that you need, and the village is likely to waste a day lynching them. All in all, if I'm a wolf, I leave the 3P alone unless they are doing something specific to cause me grief.

How can you know they don't affect the wolfy wincon???

 

[Crayola227]

Why? Unless they are laser-focused on wolf hunting and successfully doing it, why kill them? They don't hurt your wolfy win-con, killing them takes away one villager NK that you need, and the village is likely to waste a day lynching them. All in all, if I'm a wolf, I leave the 3P alone unless they are doing something specific to cause me grief.

You were the one who coined "If it isn't village, it must die!" I feel so betrayed rn. Nothing is real anymore.