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No Circus of Values tonight 😢
I missed this nickname the first time I read through and just don't think it was appreciated enough.Just to clarify, you're referring to Chaos, right? (Not katasamasutra)
which reads though? Pretty sure it's been kata/samac, lis and you for his choices. lol
Kind of ya to join us finallyAnd they are pretty good reads
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Woah there.The money thing is a crazy theory with nothing to back it (and based on what I started with, it's wrong), it feels like a distraction. I would have changed my vote to her but it would have made a tie with one minute left in voting.
Okay, that's my mistake about who started it. That said, she's been in my POE for a long time, I'm not voting her just based on that.Woah there.
If you're going to lynch someone based on the money idea, that's me. I've been trying to read between the lines on some budgetary claims and am the one who asked her about whether she was a wealthy villager and started the whole shebang.
I don't think it's sketchy to try to game solve with any data we have, just like it's not necessarily sketchy to be wrong. I think stifling that sort of thought is a way worse WW sin.
This is fair and I'm not trying to be a dick. It is just frustrating to put a lot of effort into a game and be met with radio silence.**************
Also, for the record, I think it's crappy to **** on please when her IRL situation was enough that she asked for, and received, a modkill. Life happens. It's happened a couple times and it's not cool.
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Contingency yeet samac
Looking back at kata's posts made me uncomfortable with her reads. samac's reactions tonight were over the top for how few votes were on her. The money thing is a crazy theory with nothing to back it (and based on what I started with, it's wrong), it feels like a distraction. I would have changed my vote to her but it would have made a tie with one minute left in voting.
I'm going to look into some other people tomorrow too but katamac has been in the POE for a long time and I don't feel good after tonight.
Woah there.
If you're going to lynch someone based on the money idea, that's me. I've been trying to read between the lines on some budgetary claims and am the one who asked her about whether she was a wealthy villager and started the whole shebang.
I don't think it's sketchy to try to game solve with any data we have, just like it's not necessarily sketchy to be wrong. I think stifling that sort of thought is a way worse WW sin.
This is fair and I'm not trying to be a dick. It is just frustrating to put a lot of effort into a game and be met with radio silence.
It is still worth noting that katamac confirmed an identical number with lupin prior to Ms P claiming it on thread. While a wolf could have been given the same amount of money, I feel actually even better about katamac after tonight, lol.If Ms P had bothered to respond earlier and we could have lined up two alleged vanillagers receiving the same amount of money, I think it would have been a viable avenue. This is the downside of people not freaking defending or answering questions.
What he said. Including requesting some dolla bills my way lol.Tbh, I think it's interesting they both claimed vanillager and both had the same pattern of money. If I put any stock in the money mechanic it makes me think katamac is vanillager too.
I'm not sure why I can't have some money too, but that's a different issue.
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Also, for the record, I think it's crappy to **** on please when her IRL situation was enough that she asked for, and received, a modkill. Life happens. It's happened a couple times and it's not cool.
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We have hard evidence on very little in this game. I don't think it's wrong to try and pull conclusions from limited data - that's literally what makes me like SDN ww so much, it's a super complicated puzzle game with a bunch of personalities.I'm a vanillager as well and started with $19. Found $5 the same night that I was gif restricted. Then found another $16 on N4.
That help clear anything up about the money mechanic?
Let's not put stock in things we don't have evidence for, yeah?
Yeah, but there's a difference between mechanics solving and getting distracted by a random tinfoil based on what 2 people said.We have hard evidence on very little in this game. I don't think it's wrong to try and pull conclusions from limited data - that's literally what makes me like SDN ww so much, it's a super complicated puzzle game with a bunch of personalities.
I hate my own waffling. I was hot on kata early in game. The samac swayed me with PMs. But retrospectively, it's not so much she moved herself 'villager' in her PMs as much as she moved herself neutral.
I woudn't be heartbroken with a samac lynch. It answers the question, like any of us.
I don't think I can be very objective on Chaos. Chaos frustrated me to death by insisting on misconstruing (or really, over-emphasizing one piece) what I said. Makes me grumbly and want to lynch. But that's a pretty craptastic reason to lynch someone, other than the obvious question of whether it was intentional shade-throwing.
@Chaostrodon How do you feel about a wagon building on you as fast as it did tonight?
N4 or N5 for the latter money?I'm a vanillager as well and started with $19. Found $5 the same night that I was gif restricted. Then found another $16 on N4.
That help clear anything up about the money mechanic?
Let's not put stock in things we don't have evidence for, yeah?
N4N4 or N5 for the latter money?
Why Cray vs LIS?I will probably be lynching cray tomorrow
Bc no one else is gonna even bother understanding why I have an issue with LIS .Why Cray vs LIS?
You are voting samacs right? What did you think about Trilts reasoning as to why samac scum is unlikely?Why Cray vs LIS?
Bc no one else is gonna even bother understanding why I have an issue with LIS .
It's based on the money tinfoil, which I just posted about and forced myself to role reveal in the process. So I'm not really feeling great about it.You are voting samacs right? What did you think about Trilts reasoning as to why samac scum is unlikely?
Can you give me a tl;dr on your LiS read?
I have him as neutral currently.
Here is the post in question
Here is the "twisted misintrepretation" Ive made of it , just in case anyone wanted to look through
It's based on the money tinfoil, which I just posted about and forced myself to role reveal in the process. So I'm not really feeling great about it.
It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek response. It doesn’t matter if I think he may have been a wolf, he’s got village cred through the damn roof converting him would be a good call.@samac I'm curious, you've had Lawpy in your POE, but then in this post, you also had him as someone who had "village cred through the damn roof," so my question is either what changed on your previous read or what has changed since you made this post?
I find it interesting that 5 minutes before yeet close you decided to say this, especially since I left approximately 45 minutes earlier and never bothered to change your vote. Seems like you wanted to hedge your bets on me right before yeet closeI'm really struggling because going off VCA (from final votes), MsP and katamac are almost identical in terms of number of times they voted for village vs wolf. I feel like I can make an argument for either one of them. I feel like the ISOs that I did on MsP relied on really reading into a few interactions. This evening, I've gotten more village feels from MsP and more wolf feels from samac.
I’ve already commented on my reaction. I hate having votes on me when I’m village because it makes me feel like I’m ****ing up as village and I get a little defensive. You also called out me having a similar reaction earlier in game, but I don’t remember where it was.Contingency yeet samac
Looking back at kata's posts made me uncomfortable with her reads. samac's reactions tonight were over the top for how few votes were on her. The money thing is a crazy theory with nothing to back it (and based on what I started with, it's wrong), it feels like a distraction. I would have changed my vote to her but it would have made a tie with one minute left in voting.
I'm going to look into some other people tomorrow too but katamac has been in the POE for a long time and I don't feel good after tonight.
Once again, Jaboo can confirm this I put out the one wolf in each group theory day 1 in tot chat (if that’s appropriate. I dunno). I said it immediately here and everyone shut me down which is fine, but at this point it’s still not been proven wrong.I felt similiarly about her bringing up the one wolf in each group theory
But I asked about Trilt's theory , as in if samac/kata was wolf why didnt she exchange her firstaidkit with alley or Cyndia and prevented them from getting voted off
Wouldn’t expect anything less.contingency yeet samacs
I was looking back through kata's/your posts and MsP's, and comparing them to the VCAs after I made that post. Then it was 9:59 and pulling my vote off MsP would have made a tie (of MsP and chaos), which I was unwilling to do when I had both you and MsP in my POE.I find it interesting that 5 minutes before yeet close you decided to say this, especially since I left approximately 45 minutes earlier and never bothered to change your vote. Seems like you wanted to hedge your bets on me right before yeet close
I mean, okay, but you did the same thing when you were wolfing. It might be NAI, but I can't write it off when you've only wolfed once. That's why I make notes of it.I’ve already commented on my reaction. I hate having votes on me when I’m village because it makes me feel like I’m ****ing up as village and I get a little defensive. You also called out me having a similar reaction earlier in game, but I don’t remember where it was.
If my role revealing prevents village from wasting time pursuing a tinfoil that I know is wrong, then it was worth it.Trilt has already commented on this but I don’t think my theory was all that crazy with nothing to back it. Those words seemed kind of harsh for what’s going on.
Trilt asked me if I was called a rich villager, I told her no and then realized maybe there’s something to vanilla and money so since Ms. P was claiming vanilla I wanted to know how much she had compared to what I did.
I left my information with Lupin this morning with my theory in case I didn’t make it back in time to see Ms. P’s reveal so she would know. Her numbers were near identical to mine so I don’t think it’s the most ridiculous tinfoil and I don’t think it’s without merit and making a distraction it actually left me thinking either she was telling the truth or Lupin gave her my information and she copied it too closely. Turns out they were just really that close.
No one else had money info out there and your info doesn’t really change anything other than proving it wrong. You didn’t have to role reveal and saying you feel great about it like I forced your hand seems a little silly.
Wouldn’t expect anything less.
Just because it’s every night for 3 nights running.Why?
That's cool, but the next question is why didn't you and why are you now?This is going to maybe come out all sorts of sketch, but it's just a reflection of me skimming the surface of the game.
In case it helps put things together, I believe I was attacked N3. There was protection in place.
Should have said something a while back.
That's not accurate. His final vote was last on you on D5 before tonight.Just because it’s every night for 3 nights running.
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Also, for the record, I think it's crappy to **** on please when her IRL situation was enough that she asked for, and received, a modkill. Life happens. It's happened a couple times and it's not cool.
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Trilt was actually the one to start the money thing, she corrected me upthread for thinking that samac started it. I don't really know about the first aid kit - I wouldn't think from reading the description that it would prevent a yeet, though?I felt similiarly about her bringing up the one wolf in each group theory
But I asked about Trilt's theory , as in if samac/kata was wolf why didnt she exchange her firstaidkit with alley or Cyndia and prevented them from getting voted off