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[BigCats]

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Also, would you rather me vote for you since you're here?

Sure, if you think misvoting me is the way to go. At least you'd have some plausible deniability with genny if she flips wolf.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Sure, if you think misvoting me is the way to go. At least you'd have some plausible deniability with genny if she flips wolf.

Well you obviously think misvoting me is the way to go for you.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Can we get more dialogue going please???

 

[BigCats]

Can we get more dialogue going please???

I think people are content to let us bicker it out lol

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I think people are content to let us bicker it out lol

It's really frustrating! I know people have work and stuff but it's volo! It's time to put everything on the table!

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

@BigCats why is Genny in your village pile?

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

@BigCats sorry, I meant Why was she in your village pile yesterday?

 

[BigCats]

It's really frustrating! I know people have work and stuff but it's volo! It's time to put everything on the table!

I think you've been putting in a ton of effort this game and I am so grateful for that- I still think you have to be a wolf 😛 but I appreciate how hard you've been fighting all game!!

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I think you've been putting in a ton of effort this game and I am so grateful for that- I still think you have to be a wolf 😛 but I appreciate how hard you've been fighting all game!!

Lol BC I think YOU have to be a wolf lol. Can we both agree that if Kota is a wolf we'll be incredibly impressed?

Edit: Grammar

 

[BigCats]

@BigCats sorry, I meant Why was she in your village pile yesterday?

She felt like the practice game where she trying to hide her role as JOAT, so I had an inkling she might be a PR. Of course, now that all of the PRs are gone, I'm having to reevaluate my worldview to see if her quietness is AI or just being busy as well as if you were trying to dodge vote-out D1 through what seemed to me like a soft PR claim.

 

[BigCats]

Lol BC I think YOU have to be a wolf lol. Can we both agree that if Kota is a wolf we'll be incredibly impressed?

Edit: Grammar

I will eat a rock if Kota is a wolf 🤣

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I will eat a rock if Kota is a wolf 🤣

What about a dubz hat?

 

[BigCats]

What about a dubz hat?

Hmm, depends on the fabric!

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

She felt like the practice game where she trying to hide her role as JOAT, so I had an inkling she might be a PR. Of course, now that all of the PRs are gone, I'm having to reevaluate my worldview to see if her quietness is AI or just being busy as well as if you were trying to dodge vote-out D1 through what seemed to me like a soft PR claim.

Sorry I never meant to sound like I was soft claiming a PR role, I'm just a snackeez vanillager.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I am always really busy. Except on Wednesdays.

@genny it's wednesday my dear 🙂 you around?

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

@holdthemayo what was this post about?

Good morning everyone! I was excited to be an egg, but I'll have to save that for excitement for later.

In honor of eggs and fathers day, please ask your dad if he knows any cool egg facts:

 

[BigCats]

Sorry I never meant to sound like I was soft claiming a PR role, I'm just a snackeez vanillager.

Nah you're good, in the practice game I basically cleared Doggo all game because of a soft claim she made at day close and never reevaluated until I was dead lol, so now when people are kind of intangibly wanting to live but all of the PRs are out, it gets my hackles up. I mean I also want to live (usually lol) but I don't usually say so at day close unless I'm a PR and people aren't moving off my wagon.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Nah you're good, in the practice game I basically cleared Doggo all game because of a soft claim she made at day close and never reevaluated until I was dead lol, so now when people are kind of intangibly wanting to live but all of the PRs are out, it gets my hackles up. I mean I also want to live (usually lol) but I don't usually say so at day close unless I'm a PR and people aren't moving off my wagon.

I have a genuine question for you. If you think the other 2 villagers are Kota and Mayo, that leaves Genny and I as your wolf picks. Is there a reason you'd want to go me over Genny?

 

[BigCats]

I have a genuine question for you. If you think the other 2 villagers are Kota and Mayo, that leaves Genny and I as your wolf picks. Is there a reason you'd want to go me over Genny?

Honestly, I'm worried you'll bus genny, you'll kill me tonight, and then tomorrow you'll use your cred to pit Kota and mayo against each other. Probably wouldn't be too hard- Kota's been suspicious of mayo for what feels like the whole game and mayo was just saying it's probably time to poke at Kota a bit, and I believe you could make it happen. "Would I be the first person to bus my partner in what could've been a sweep?" and all that. If I can at least get everyone else to go for you instead of genny today, I'll still probably die tonight, but I have more faith in village staying the course and getting genny tomorrow.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Honestly, I'm worried you'll bus genny, you'll kill me tonight, and then tomorrow you'll use your cred to pit Kota and mayo against each other. Probably wouldn't be too hard- Kota's been suspicious of mayo for what feels like the whole game and mayo was just saying it's probably time to poke at Kota a bit, and I believe you could make it happen. "Would I be the first person to bus my partner in what could've been a sweep?" and all that. If I can at least get everyone else to go for you instead of genny today, I'll still probably die tonight, but I have more faith in village staying the course and getting genny tomorrow.

Not with a misvote though! The thing that I'm looking at is everyone is at least mildly sketch of Genny. I don't disagree with Mayo that Kota has been "skating" but I think it's because Mayo feels strongly about a player and is looking over his shoulder at other players who haven't really been labeled as sketchy.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Honestly, I'm worried you'll bus genny, you'll kill me tonight, and then tomorrow you'll use your cred to pit Kota and mayo against each other. Probably wouldn't be too hard- Kota's been suspicious of mayo for what feels like the whole game and mayo was just saying it's probably time to poke at Kota a bit, and I believe you could make it happen. "Would I be the first person to bus my partner in what could've been a sweep?" and all that. If I can at least get everyone else to go for you instead of genny today, I'll still probably die tonight, but I have more faith in village staying the course and getting genny tomorrow.

I do also want to say, if Genny flips wolf, I think I'd go for Kota or you. I don't know why I wouldn't go for Mayo but now I'm paranoid that Kota is killing it

 

[Kota1000]

Honestly, I'm worried you'll bus genny, you'll kill me tonight, and then tomorrow you'll use your cred to pit Kota and mayo against each other. Probably wouldn't be too hard- Kota's been suspicious of mayo for what feels like the whole game and mayo was just saying it's probably time to poke at Kota a bit, and I believe you could make it happen. "Would I be the first person to bus my partner in what could've been a sweep?" and all that. If I can at least get everyone else to go for you instead of genny today, I'll still probably die tonight, but I have more faith in village staying the course and getting genny tomorrow.

Sorry if you already stated this, but why are you so sure Moose is a wolf? I just want to understand your train of thought. I’ve been reading them as fairly village so far.

Once I get home and can get on my computer I am going to look into BC, genny and Mayo.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I do want to point out, at this point with 5 people left here are the voting scenarios I'm considering (order of votes doesn't matter).

Top Candidates Scenario 1
Wolf - Villager, Villager
Villager - Wolf, Wolf, Villager

Top Candidates Scenario 2
Wolf - Villager, Wolf, Villager
Villager - Wolf, Villager

Top Candidates Scenario 3 (I think least likely scenario unfortunately)
Wolf - Wolf, Villager (+/- Villager)
Wolf - Wolf, Villager (+/- Villager)

Top Candidates Scenario 4
Villager
Villager
In this scenario, wolves and villagers can vote anywhere

 

[BigCats]

Sorry if you already stated this, but why are you so sure Moose is a wolf? I just want to understand your train of thought. I’ve been reading them as fairly village so far.

Once I get home and can get on my computer I am going to look into BC, genny and Mayo.

It's mainly POE at this point- I feel pretty good about you and mayo as village, I know I'm village, the other two people just have to be wolves. The more I think about it, the more the Moose/genny world makes the pieces fall together a bit more clearly- let me find some of the posts that I feel differently about now.

 

[holdthemayo]

@holdthemayo what was this post about?

It was a reference to Alissa's original game theme. I had signed up to play as eggs.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

It was a reference to Alissa's original game theme. I had signed up to play as eggs.

What are you thinking now?

 

[holdthemayo]

Not with a misvote though! The thing that I'm looking at is everyone is at least mildly sketch of Genny. I don't disagree with Mayo that Kota has been "skating" but I think it's because Mayo feels strongly about a player and is looking over his shoulder at other players who haven't really been labeled as sketchy.

Pretty much I feel like Genny is probably a wolf, but want to consider everything.

Kota hasn't really been pressured all game because everyone has read them as village (me included). At this point it makes me uncomfortable that we could have missed something there.

 

[holdthemayo]

What are you thinking now?

I'm thinking

Vote Genny

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 3 Ain’t No Sunshine (Can Jesus even drive?!?) Vote Tally
genny (2) - MOOSE, mayo
MOOSE (1) - BC

3/5
vote close in ~7 hours

 

[BigCats]

Warning, quote wall incoming (gonna try to stick it in spoilers if I can but we'll see)

 

[holdthemayo]

I think people are content to let us bicker it out lol

I can't tell you how amazing it would be if you and moose were the wolves and still showed up to carry the thread by yourselves all morning

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I can't tell you how amazing it would be if you and moose were the wolves and still showed up to carry the thread by yourselves all morning

Legit though, since I know I'm villager and I just think that wolves would let this go unless another wolf is in danger at this moment it's making me lean village on BC but ugghhhhh

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I just saw a Bump-it infomercial on facebook ("the official look for Karens") and honestly if no wolves have this as their role I'm gonna be real bummed 😛

 

[BigCats]

Spoiler: 1

Hey everyone, I'm not lurking, saw the thread was up but I've been busy cleaning my house and running errands 🙂
Just got my excel sheet started!!!! Gahhh been so long since I've made one!

Vote Genny

Because as much as I love playing with her she's a scary good player

She's a scary good player you'd like to get rid of from the jump regardless of affiliation?

I'm sorry missy, where is your vote?
She's a great player as wolf or village. It's not close to closing time, I'm applying pressure

I don't think so, I think strong players can be your biggest asset or curse depending on affiliation. This isn't a game of "I want to keep the strongest players so I'm going up against the best." This is, who are the wolves and who are the dangerous wolves. Get them before they get you. Again, we're not even close to closing time, once people start posting, votes can change.

If genny was in danger, I would consider switching my vote. I voted to make it clear that I know she's a threat and that I've got my eye on her

I think this exchange received quite a bit of attention D1, but I think it's still relevant to bring up. "Yeah I'm voting genny, but it's not like, actually serious, ya know? I just want my vote recorded for posterity so I can point back to this if she flips wolf." Since we now know wolves have the roleblocker setup because of the unique village PR combo, they knew there was a very good chance that there would be at least one investigator (and maybe even two!!!), and I would be beyond shocked if pushing each other wasn't part of their strategy from the get-go. Please please please if genny flips wolf tonight and I get killed in the morning, please look at who's been pushing each other all along.

Spoiler: 2

unvote kota
vote MOOSE

Genny my dear, are you voting for me for self prez/retaliation? If you didn't vote for me, where would you go?

but your still on her...if she’s a great villager why would you want to get rid of her

Because she's an equally great if not moreso wolf and that's a scary thing. I'm reconsidering my vote as of the moment because of where the votes lie, I want to hear a bit from her and MsP 🙂

No, I'm voting for you because you said you were voting for me because I'm a good player. It's a phrasing thing. If you had said "good wolf", I'd be less suspicious.

At this point it's self prez
I wanted to play this game but now I'm a ball of freaking stress. Literally people, MsP voted for Genny first and gave NO LEGITIMATE REASON!!! So...why is no one questioning her?

I could go for MsP because she's focused solely on our spat and nothing else. But she's not here right now, don't know if she's ghosting or actually busy.

Continuation of above.

Spoiler: 3

Unvote Genny
Vote MsP

putting self prez aside, just going with my gut

This really strikes me as concerning in hindsight- not actually voting her when it comes down to it even though that left Moose open for voteout if no one else had swapped over as well. I know I've referenced the practice game a few times but there were some weird things in that game that happened but I just shrugged off- like the point where Doggo's (wolf) wagon was one vote higher than SAR's (also wolf) and tied with Sunbodi's (village) with like 8 minutes til close but Doggo was basically waiting for someone (alissa, also wolf) to swoop in and vote SAR. I'm fuzzy on the context but it was weird and so is this. Different context though- I think I was the next one to vote MsP lol so it's not quite the same scenario but it does remind me of meats' books game where I created another wagon even though I was at risk in order to drive people onto it. I feel like I'm not explaining this very well but it makes sense in my head, trust me lol.

Spoiler: 4

Day 1 Conversation Got Heavy Vote Tally
Suni () -
genny (1) - MsP
3m (1) - mayo
mayo (2) - Kota, Wonder
Kota () -
MOOSE (3) - Suni, genny, 3m
MsP (2) - MOOSE, BC

9/9
vote close in ~8 minutes

Although this makes me wonder why not mayo. I guess I can rationalize it as knowing that mayo could self-prez harder onto Moose. I lost the quote where genny and Moose are cross-voting but I think there's a tally with them both voting each other.

Spoiler: 5

Pretty sure that puts us at a 3 way tie.

I'd rather MSP than Moose

Unvote 3M
Vote MSP

It's been forever, but can I ask why? Just curious. @holdthemayo

Spoiler: 6

Final Day 1 Conversation Got Heavy Vote Tally
Suni () -
genny (1) - MsP
3m () -
mayo (2) - Kota, Wonder
Kota () -
MOOSE (2) - Suni, genny
MsP (3) - MOOSE, BC, mayo

8/9
Missing: 3m

Day 2 It's Too Late Vote Tally
3m (2) - BC, kota
genny (1) - Suni
Mayo (2) - MOOSE, genny


a tie!!!
6/7
missing: @holdthemayo
vote close in ~1.5 hours

please remember to get 5 content posts in!

Spoiler: Content post tally

3M - 1
Kota - 4
BC - 3
MOOSE - SAFE
genny - 4
mayo - 2
Suni - 3

I can't remember why I quoted this, I think it was the Moose/genny voting patterns?

Final Day 1 Conversation Got Heavy Vote Tally
Suni () -
genny (1) - MsP
3m () -
mayo (2) - Kota, Wonder
Kota () -
MOOSE (2) - Suni, genny
MsP (3) - MOOSE, BC, mayo

Missing: 3m


Day 2 It's Too Late Vote Tally
3m (3) - BC, Kota, mayo
genny (1) - Suni
mayo (2) - MOOSE, genny

6/7
Missing: 3m

Just filling these in for reference.

Spoiler: 8??

I'm not a wolf. Worried Genny is pocketing me

This is I think from last night after day close, it reeeeally makes me think w/w. So the protector just flipped, wolves know they have a roleblocker so it's 50/50 whether it's a jailer or I think a cop. If there's a cop, you're kinda screwed just based on the small game size if they manage to even get one confirmed villager, so now you really have to emphasize the separation.

 

[BigCats]

Okay, I don't think any of the formatting broke, whew. I'm gonna go take a nap after all of that lol, catch y'all soon for more discussion!!

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Did anyone get any night results at any point this game?

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I think this exchange received quite a bit of attention D1, but I think it's still relevant to bring up. "Yeah I'm voting genny, but it's not like, actually serious, ya know? I just want my vote recorded for posterity so I can point back to this if she flips wolf." Since we now know wolves have the roleblocker setup because of the unique village PR combo, they knew there was a very good chance that there would be at least one investigator (and maybe even two!!!), and I would be beyond shocked if pushing each other wasn't part of their strategy from the get-go. Please please please if genny flips wolf tonight and I get killed in the morning, please look at who's been pushing each other all along.

Continuation of above.
This really strikes me as concerning in hindsight- not actually voting her when it comes down to it even though that left Moose open for voteout if no one else had swapped over as well. I know I've referenced the practice game a few times but there were some weird things in that game that happened but I just shrugged off- like the point where Doggo's (wolf) wagon was one vote higher than SAR's (also wolf) and tied with Sunbodi's (village) with like 8 minutes til close but Doggo was basically waiting for someone (alissa, also wolf) to swoop in and vote SAR. I'm fuzzy on the context but it was weird and so is this. Different context though- I think I was the next one to vote MsP lol so it's not quite the same scenario but it does remind me of meats' books game where I created another wagon even though I was at risk in order to drive people onto it. I feel like I'm not explaining this very well but it makes sense in my head, trust me lol.

Although this makes me wonder why not mayo. I guess I can rationalize it as knowing that mayo could self-prez harder onto Moose. I lost the quote where genny and Moose are cross-voting but I think there's a tally with them both voting each other.
It's been forever, but can I ask why? Just curious. @holdthemayo
I can't remember why I quoted this, I think it was the Moose/genny voting patterns?


Just filling these in for reference.

This is I think from last night after day close, it reeeeally makes me think w/w. So the protector just flipped, wolves know they have a roleblocker so it's 50/50 whether it's a jailer or I think a cop. If there's a cop, you're kinda screwed just based on the small game size if they manage to even get one confirmed villager, so now you really have to emphasize the separation.

People HOUNDED me for my Genny vote D1. Seriously went after me! They made it clear if my vote was serious they'd kill me for it which I think is ridiculous. I switched to MsP because she kept popping on and off and was having weird posts. Also BC I'd like to point out you voted for MsP right after me!

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Here's a chart I've been making regarding statements made (+ or - or 0)
For example, following the arrow to my name, there is a positive in Kota's column indicating I think she's village, and a negative in Genny's indicating I think she's wolf. I'm just trying to see who has vouched for whom.

 

[alissa14]

I just saw a Bump-it infomercial on facebook ("the official look for Karens") and honestly if no wolves have this as their role I'm gonna be real bummed 😛

You’re going to be severely disappointed

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Please let me know if this is not how to make a vote tracker

Spoiler: Day 1 Vote Tracker

Day 1
Sunni - BC, Wondering
Genny (1) - MsP, MOOSE
3m - Mayo
Mayo (2) - Kota, Wondering
Kota - Genny
MsP (3) - MOOSE, BC, Mayo
MOOSE (2) - Sunni, Genny, 3m
Missing: 3m

Spoiler: Day 2 Vote Tracker

Day 2
3m (3) - Sunni, BC, Kota, Mayo
Genny (1) - Sunni
Mayo (2) - MOOSE, Genny
Missing: 3m

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

@Kota1000 you voted for Mayo D1 but not D2 despite thinking he's a wolf, is there any reason?

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Anyone here???

 

[Kota1000]

@Kota1000 you voted for Mayo D1 but not D2 despite thinking he's a wolf, is there any reason?

Well Mayo and 3m were my top wolf pile yesterday l, and since I didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to work, I decided to try a different avenue because some other players had Mayo as village

 

[Kota1000]

Did anyone get any night results at any point this game?

Why do you ask this? It seems like your fishing, yet that would be pretty obvious if your a wolf...

 

[Kota1000]

Please let me know if this is not how to make a vote tracker

Spoiler: Day 1 Vote Tracker

Day 1
Sunni - BC, Wondering
Genny (1) - MsP, MOOSE
3m - Mayo
Mayo (2) - Kota, Wondering
Kota - Genny
MsP (3) - MOOSE, BC, Mayo
MOOSE (2) - Sunni, Genny, 3m
Missing: 3m

Spoiler: Day 2 Vote Tracker

Day 2
3m (3) - Sunni, BC, Kota, Mayo
Genny (1) - Sunni
Mayo (2) - MOOSE, Genny
Missing: 3m

Just based on votes, I definitely think either Mayo, or BC is a wolf and not both, cause I doubt both would be on the same wagon both days. Then, the 2nd wolf is either genny or moose, but I don’t think both wolves would be on the same wagon D1, so that leaves genny... this is only based on votes, but I’m tempted to vote genny

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Why do you ask this? It seems like your fishing, yet that would be pretty obvious if your a wolf...

I'm asking because I want to know if anyone was blocked at any point, or what the night actions of the 1 PR role that made it through a night was. It's the only way we can get in their head

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Well Mayo and 3m were my top wolf pile yesterday l, and since I didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to work, I decided to try a different avenue because some other players had Mayo as village

Who said they had Mayo as village?

 

[holdthemayo]

It's been forever, but can I ask why? Just curious. @holdthemayo

I had to vote Moose or MsP out of self-pres.

Obviously it was the wrong call in retrospect (unless Moose is village as well in which case it wouldn't matter).

 

[genny]

@genny it's wednesday my dear 🙂 you around?

Sort of. I have errands to run, and stuff to sew. I'm less busy than on the days I work until 7PM CDT though.

 

[genny]

Sunny dies after being suspicious of MOOSE all game, and I'm the first person to bring this up?