Official 2011-2012 IM "How To Rank" Thread

[gutonc]

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I hate to be so last minute with this, but I'm still a bit undecided on the middle of my list. I'm from the mid-Atlantic East coast and would like to stay close to home, but I'm more concerned about getting a GI fellowship in the future. I'm pretty set on my top 2 (based on location, "gut feeling," fellowships, etc.) but I could use some help with the middle.

My main question is whether I should move Cornell, NW, UofC further up. I have it further down now b/c I'm worried about "ease of living," such as buying groceries, traveling around the city for simple necessities, etc. Now, I can simply hop into my car and get whatever I want and how much I want. Any help is appreciated.

Current ROL
1. Duke (set)
2. UPMC (set)
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3. WashU
4. Vanderbilt
5. UNC
6. Cornell
7. NW
8. UofChicago
9. Yale
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10. - 14. Others

I'd personally put WU below the Chicago programs but that's just because I've already done my time in St. Louis and would prefer not to have to do it again. But it's hard to argue with your list the way it is.

 

[Dimple Knuckle]

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[drrockstar140]

I think thats a solid list. OOC, why Utah over OSU? Location?

Ya, I'd say with most other factors being equal, location is the big deciding factor there.

Can you wrap your mind around Mayo-AZ over Wisc, OSU, Minn, Utah, etc? I can't decide if my gut is leading me completely astray...

 

[DrVanNostran]

Ya, I'd say with most other factors being equal, location is the big deciding factor there.

Can you wrap your mind around Mayo-AZ over Wisc, OSU, Minn, Utah, etc? I can't decide if my gut is leading me completely astray...

I just looked up Mayo-Az and was pretty upset that I didn't apply there. I think it seems like a nice program. Wisc, OSU, Minn and Utah definitely have the overall edge, but with your goals and comfort level I think its a solid number 1. People probably laugh at my number 1, but I don't really care anymore lol.

 

[gutonc]

Can you wrap your mind around Mayo-AZ over Wisc, OSU, Minn, Utah, etc? I can't decide if my gut is leading me completely astray...

No. but then, I'm not you and I didn't interview at all of those places. There's nothing "wrong" with Mayo AZ per se, but the other places you mention are all stronger programs.

 

[applegeek1234]

I just looked up Mayo-Az and was pretty upset that I didn't apply there. I think it seems like a nice program. Wisc, OSU, Minn and Utah definitely have the overall edge, but with your goals and comfort level I think its a solid number 1. People probably laugh at my number 1, but I don't really care anymore lol.

DVN, it's been great following you on SDN. You definitely sound like someone I'd grab a beer with after work and just kick it. If we happen to match at the same program (I also interviewed at UCI, Baylor, & Case), it'd be great to work with you man. Just sayin.

 

[MedicineAppl]

UTSW > UCSD for national rep

but who'd want to live in Dallas when you can sun your nutz in San Diego?

I don't know who's got the better heme/onc program, but I bet UTSW matches "better" - ie more folks to Fox Chase, Sloan Kettering, MD Anderson, etc., but I don't know. How much research do you want to do in fellowship anyway? If all you're interested in is a heme/onc spot somewhere, and maybe even SoCal, then you can't go wrong with UCSD.

I do want an academic career, and research is important to me. It's hard to compare the types of research opportunities available at UTSW vs UCSD, I find that websites aren't great for a lot of that info. Anyone have any idea why the UTSW match list would be better than UCSD? Is it because of the research opportunities or reputation of clinical training?

I feel like I keep finding that the match lists for heme/onc tend to look very good where there are big time faculty, even when the clinical training is not stellar, maybe because of recs or pubs? I don't know the field of heme/onc well enough to know the great programs and big name faculty beyond some of the very obvious ones (MD Anderson, MSK etc). Does anyone have any opinion on the heme/onc faculty or research opportunities at UTSW vs UCSD?

Thanks again!

 

[Elixir86]

DVN, it's been great following you on SDN. You definitely sound like someone I'd grab a beer with after work and just kick it. If we happen to match at the same program (I also interviewed at UCI, Baylor, & Case), it'd be great to work with you man. Just sayin.

Yeah, I just want to second everything applegeek said about DVN! (Thanks for your input, DVN)

 

[drrockstar140]

No. but then, I'm not you and I didn't interview at all of those places. There's nothing "wrong" with Mayo AZ per se, but the other places you mention are all stronger programs.

Would you argue that Wisc, Minn, OSU, and Utah are stronger to the point of being in a different "tier?" ....ie - in a rank list of academic strength, do you think there are 50 programs that would be between these and Mayo-AZ....or does Mayo-AZ deserve to be in the conversation?

 

[jdh71]

I'm having a tough time between Baylor vs Emory vs OSU Vs Case. How would rank these based on lifestyle? I am pretty sure the strength factor goes Baylor=Emory>OSU=Case. With all things considered, I was thinking: OSU, Baylor, Case, Emory?

Wild Card: University of Chicago-Northshore: I actually LOVED this program. If they had an attached H/O fellowship they would be number 1 or 2. They said in the past few years, they have had no problems with H/O. Here is how they matched in the past 4 years:
2011: Rochester, UChicago
2010: 2 Northwestern, Beumont, NYU
2009: No one
2008: Northwestern, MCW

How would you place Northshore? I would love to be in Chicago, I loved the program, no H/O fellowship but a decent match list.

I am pretty sure this is my Top 10, I haven't changed it in a bit so I feel good:

1. Rush-loved this program, plus its in Chicago
2. UIC-I would really prefer to be in Chicago close to home. I loved this program. The main negative of UIC were the facilities and support staff, this made Rush hit number 1.
3. UC Irvine-absolutely loved this program, location
4. Mayo-Great program, awesome PD, Rochester was the breaking point to drop to number 4
5. OHSU-Best PD I have met, 3+! is pretty cool. I love Portland, my wife loves the OC. The compromise was UCI then Mayo then OHSU.
6. Wisconsin-Great PD, Close to Chicago
7-10 Baylor vs Emory Vs Case vs OSU

11-16: Some great program in here, but I the above 10 hit a nice cord with me.

Doubt you match that low on your list my friend.

I think it looks fine and well thought out.

I bet you get the #1 spot.

 

[jdh71]

I'm just looking for a last minute blessing (or outcry) on my list. Interested in primary care, heme/onc....endo?

1. Mayo Arizona
2. Wisconsin PC
3. Wisconsin Categorical
4. Utah
5. Arizona
6. OSU PC
7. OSU Categorical
8. Minnesota
9. Providence Portland
10. Providence St. V
11. UNM
12. Banner Good Sam (Phoenix)

As long as that is the way you liked them, then fine. I have a hard time seeing Mayo-AZ at the tippy top, but people probably would have been horrified by my rank list too 😀

 

[jdh71]

I hate to be so last minute with this, but I'm still a bit undecided on the middle of my list. I'm from the mid-Atlantic East coast and would like to stay close to home, but I'm more concerned about getting a GI fellowship in the future. I'm pretty set on my top 2 (based on location, "gut feeling," fellowships, etc.) but I could use some help with the middle.

My main question is whether I should move Cornell, NW, UofC further up. I have it further down now b/c I'm worried about "ease of living," such as buying groceries, traveling around the city for simple necessities, etc. Now, I can simply hop into my car and get whatever I want and how much I want. Any help is appreciated.

Current ROL
1. Duke (set)
2. UPMC (set)
--------------------------
3. WashU
4. Vanderbilt
5. UNC
6. Cornell
7. NW
8. UofChicago
9. Yale
--------------------------
10. - 14. Others

Looks fine, don't second guess yourself this late in the game. And there is soemthing to be said for being able to get around and get the crap you want.

 

[jdh71]

I do want an academic career, and research is important to me. It's hard to compare the types of research opportunities available at UTSW vs UCSD, I find that websites aren't great for a lot of that info. Anyone have any idea why the UTSW match list would be better than UCSD? Is it because of the research opportunities or reputation of clinical training?

I feel like I keep finding that the match lists for heme/onc tend to look very good where there are big time faculty, even when the clinical training is not stellar, maybe because of recs or pubs? I don't know the field of heme/onc well enough to know the great programs and big name faculty beyond some of the very obvious ones (MD Anderson, MSK etc). Does anyone have any opinion on the heme/onc faculty or research opportunities at UTSW vs UCSD?

Thanks again!

You'll do the bulk of your starting real research in fellowship. And much of the kind of research that launches a career is done at bigger academic centers, especially the big names. If that's the case, then you'll probably want to go with UTSW.

 

[gutonc]

Would you argue that Wisc, Minn, OSU, and Utah are stronger to the point of being in a different "tier?" ....ie - in a rank list of academic strength, do you think there are 50 programs that would be between these and Mayo-AZ....or does Mayo-AZ deserve to be in the conversation?

Yes, that's the argument I (and most everyone I know) would make.

Mayo AZ is a well established solid community program, attached by name to an excellent parent program. It is definitely the 2nd best program in AZ. And I'd honestly put the best program in AZ a notch below the other programs you mentioned.

 

[damascus1986]

Ugh. CCF so high? Look, if you loved the program - fine - but if not, don't do that. Put CCF under Indy and call it a day. I might move Minne up, but THE Ohio State is a nice place.

Why would Minnesota be better than OSU?? is it fellowship wise or clinical training/teaching wise??

 

[Instatewaiter]

Can you specify what you mean by Duke not being "laid back?" I agree that from what I've heard, it's no cake walk, but what have you heard about the program or is there anything we should be concerned about?

There's nothing to be concerned about (that I know of off hand). Some programs are laid back. Some are not. My program is not laid back and I am very happy here.

It's not like they are going to bully you but you're gonna work hard. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[jdh71]

Why would Minnesota be better than OSU?? is it fellowship wise or clinical training/teaching wise??

Just the way I see it.

 

[nomorelaziness]

really need last minute help! any comments on my final rank list?? (i'm assuming my 1-6 are basically all in the same caliber... so i went with the gut feeling. is that wrong?)

1. Yale PC
2. Jefferson
3. Temple
4. U maryland
5. Montefiore
6. Brown.

Thanks.

 

[wingedscapu1a]

Just wondering how people would rank BU vs. Cornell in terms of future career options, training quality, etc?

 

[meddoc2009]

thoughts on u washington vs u washington primary care vs mayo?

also, will i be hurt doing u wash primary care if decide to do a fellowship (prob not competitive fellowship -cards/gi, but maybe rheum or allergy)

 

[Instatewaiter]

Uwash > Mayo

I don't think you will be hurt, especially for rheum. Allergy is pretty competitive but again, shouldn't be too bad. Still think Uwash>mayo

 

[jdh71]

really need last minute help! any comments on my final rank list?? (i'm assuming my 1-6 are basically all in the same caliber... so i went with the gut feeling. is that wrong?)

1. Yale PC
2. Jefferson
3. Temple
4. U maryland
5. Montefiore
6. Brown.

Thanks.

gut feeling is perfect

looks good - Yale PC is a nice program

 

[filritchie]

Just wondering how people would rank BU vs. Cornell in terms of future career options, training quality, etc?

Cornell with better reputation overall.

 

[Mrdoctorplease]

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[mangos3]

First of all, thanks to everyone for their input and helping us quell our anxieties in these final hours before the rank list deadline!

I'm pretty set on my #1 (love love loved this program!!), but still feel like 2-7 could be somewhat interchangeable. I have immediate family in the mid-atlantic as well as extended family in LA, hence the ranking of programs on either coast. I'm interested in medical education, global health, and possibly a Pulm/CC fellowship (but want to keep options open for more competitive fellowships in case I change my mind).

How would you rank 2-7 on my list based on reputation and fit with my interests? I'm least knowledgeable about the reputation of the CA programs, so info about those would be particularly helpful. However, any helpful info about any and/or all of these programs is welcome and much appreciated! Thanks, everyone!!!


1. Hopkins Bayview
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2. Jefferson
3. Harbor-UCLA
4. U Maryland
5. Scripps Mercy
6. Cedars-Sinai
7. Tufts
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8. VCU
9. Scripps Green
10. CCF
11. UCLA-Olive View
12. Einstein-Montefiore (NY)
13. USC
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14. UPMC Shadyside
15. Temple

 

[Clemente21]

so this is my first time posting but i'm kind of freaking out about how to rank spots 2-5 on my rank list. oh and i'm interested in GI.

Ohio State
Wisconsin
Wake Forest
Colorado

a few hrs ago, i had 2)OSU 3)Wis 4)WF 5)Colo... Am i crazy? Started reading all the posts and noticed tons of love for Wisconsin but to be honest, i'm still not sure why compared to OSU, other than that madison edged out cbus for me. Really appreciate any thoughts??? Thanks.

 

[bostampa2007]

what do you think of my current rank:

beth israel of albert einstein >washington hospital center > suny downstate > carilion virginia tech > evms

i was really surprised to learn that washington hospital center's third year residents class only has 3 residents from US med school 😕

 

[nznyc]

last minute help here also. yale vs. mt sinai? is there a difference in prestige level? i prefer nyc for social reasons, but also liked yale's program and know it's close.

 

[butterfinger]

Cornell vs. Emory? Would prefer the ease of living in Atlanta compared to NYC. I do realize that Cornell is a pedigree program and thus opens many doors but liked Emory's program as well and wonder if choosing Emory over Cornell will potentially close more doors than it will open? I know they had trouble filling before and aren't the most impressive on interview day.

 

[jdh71]

First of all, thanks to everyone for their input and helping us quell our anxieties in these final hours before the rank list deadline!

I'm pretty set on my #1 (love love loved this program!!), but still feel like 2-7 could be somewhat interchangeable. I have immediate family in the mid-atlantic as well as extended family in LA, hence the ranking of programs on either coast. I'm interested in medical education, global health, and possibly a Pulm/CC fellowship (but want to keep options open for more competitive fellowships in case I change my mind).

How would you rank 2-7 on my list based on reputation and fit with my interests? I'm least knowledgeable about the reputation of the CA programs, so info about those would be particularly helpful. However, any helpful info about any and/or all of these programs is welcome and much appreciated! Thanks, everyone!!!


1. Hopkins Bayview
---------------------------
2. Jefferson
3. Harbor-UCLA
4. U Maryland
5. Scripps Mercy
6. Cedars-Sinai
7. Tufts
---------------------------
8. VCU
9. Scripps Green
10. CCF
11. UCLA-Olive View
12. Einstein-Montefiore (NY)
13. USC
---------------------------
14. UPMC Shadyside
15. Temple

2-7 looks fine generally . . . I might move tufts up above SM and CS if you're at all serious about academic pulm and global health. SM and CS are fine community spots but may not have the nuts to push you into a serious university pulm/crit spot that will also let you do global health and prepare for an academic career.

 

[jdh71]

so this is my first time posting but i'm kind of freaking out about how to rank spots 2-5 on my rank list. oh and i'm interested in GI.

Ohio State
Wisconsin
Wake Forest
Colorado

a few hrs ago, i had 2)OSU 3)Wis 4)WF 5)Colo... Am i crazy? Started reading all the posts and noticed tons of love for Wisconsin but to be honest, i'm still not sure why compared to OSU, other than that madison edged out cbus for me. Really appreciate any thoughts??? Thanks.

Dude we all have our opinions and some of the regulars here really do like Wisconsin. However, YOU make YOUR rank list 😉 and THE Ohio State is a very nice program that actually got A LOT of love by this year's interviewing class on these boards. If you liked them better than Wisconsin you're not committing career suicide or anything. It's a nice program with nice fellowship matches and apparently new heme/onc facility if that floats your boat. PD sounds like a solid guy. Go with your gut and don't second guess yourself.

 

[jdh71]

what do you think of my current rank:

beth israel of albert einstein >washington hospital center > suny downstate > carilion virginia tech > evms

i was really surprised to learn that washington hospital center's third year residents class only has 3 residents from US med school 😕

If that is the way you liked them, looks fine.

 

[jdh71]

last minute help here also. yale vs. mt sinai? is there a difference in prestige level? i prefer nyc for social reasons, but also liked yale's program and know it's close.

It's about the same prestige-wise

 

[jdh71]

Cornell vs. Emory? Would prefer the ease of living in Atlanta compared to NYC. I do realize that Cornell is a pedigree program and thus opens many doors but liked Emory's program as well and wonder if choosing Emory over Cornell will potentially close more doors than it will open? I know they had trouble filling before and aren't the most impressive on interview day.

Cornell "pedigree" program? Eh. I don't know I'd go that far. I think the programs are kind of a wash - most of us would lump both programs in the top 30 somewhere, but most probably not in the top 10 and in that range all the programs have relatively the same reputation as these things tend to matter.

Go where you liked it best.

 

[mangos3]

2-7 looks fine generally . . . I might move tufts up above SM and CS if you're at all serious about academic pulm and global health. SM and CS are fine community spots but may not have the nuts to push you into a serious university pulm/crit spot that will also let you do global health and prepare for an academic career.

Thanks for the input! How about Harbor-UCLA? Is that considered a community program too? (it's an LA county hospital).

Also, Scripps Mercy has a 16-year 100% ABIM board pass rate, which I was impressed with and seems to have a fairly solid fellowship match list: http://www.scripps.org/health-educa...ams__program-highlights__fellowship-positions. The things that actually kept me from ranking them higher were that 1) I'm not that familiar with/haven't heard much about this program, and 2) I didn't feel like I got a representative sample of residents to talk with during my interview day. Also, many of the residents in their class come from DO schools--nothing against DO students, but I've heard that this may indicate that the program is less competitive?

Also, am I stupid for not putting CCF higher on my list? For both VCU and CCF, it's not that I didn't like the programs, but it was more the location that I didn't like as much.

Anyone else have any input about my rank list? Thanks again!

First of all, thanks to everyone for their input and helping us quell our anxieties in these final hours before the rank list deadline!

I'm pretty set on my #1 (love love loved this program!!), but still feel like 2-7 could be somewhat interchangeable. I have immediate family in the mid-atlantic as well as extended family in LA, hence the ranking of programs on either coast. I'm interested in medical education, global health, and possibly a Pulm/CC fellowship (but want to keep options open for more competitive fellowships in case I change my mind).

How would you rank 2-7 on my list based on reputation and fit with my interests? I'm least knowledgeable about the reputation of the CA programs, so info about those would be particularly helpful. However, any helpful info about any and/or all of these programs is welcome and much appreciated! Thanks, everyone!!!


1. Hopkins Bayview
---------------------------
2. Jefferson
3. Harbor-UCLA
4. U Maryland
5. Scripps Mercy
6. Cedars-Sinai
7. Tufts
---------------------------
8. VCU
9. Scripps Green
10. CCF
11. UCLA-Olive View
12. Einstein-Montefiore (NY)
13. USC
---------------------------
14. UPMC Shadyside
15. Temple

 

[UofM527]

Dude we all have our opinions and some of the regulars here really do like Wisconsin. However, YOU make YOUR rank list 😉 and THE Ohio State is a very nice program that actually got A LOT of love by this year's interviewing class on these boards. If you liked them better than Wisconsin you're not committing career suicide or anything. It's a nice program with nice fellowship matches and apparently new heme/onc facility if that floats your boat. PD sounds like a solid guy. Go with your gut and don't second guess yourself.

THE Ohio State Medical Center WAS a nice program, but unfortunately it no longer exists...standing its place now is THE Wexner Medical Center at OSU

 

[Phyozo]

Thanks for the input! How about Harbor-UCLA? Is that considered a community program too? (it's an LA county hospital).

Also, Scripps Mercy has a 16-year 100% ABIM board pass rate, which I was impressed with and seems to have a fairly solid fellowship match list: http://www.scripps.org/health-educa...ams__program-highlights__fellowship-positions. The things that actually kept me from ranking them higher were that 1) I'm not that familiar with/haven't heard much about this program, and 2) I didn't feel like I got a representative sample of residents to talk with during my interview day. Also, many of the residents in their class come from DO schools--nothing against DO students, but I've heard that this may indicate that the program is less competitive?

Also, am I stupid for not putting CCF higher on my list? For both VCU and CCF, it's not that I didn't like the programs, but it was more the location that I didn't like as much.

Anyone else have any input about my rank list? Thanks again!

I'd move scripps mercy below scripps green (or scripps green up a tier)...they're really in the same tier, but i think green has a better national reputation/fellowship match (though I don't think they have their own pulm/cc fellowship). Also, in my opinion, CS > harbor = olive view given less crazy county hospital experience + more time for research.

 

[gold&black2005]

I hate to be so last minute with this, but I'm still a bit undecided on the middle of my list. I'm from the mid-Atlantic East coast and would like to stay close to home, but I'm more concerned about getting a GI fellowship in the future. I'm pretty set on my top 2 (based on location, "gut feeling," fellowships, etc.) but I could use some help with the middle.

My main question is whether I should move Cornell, NW, UofC further up. I have it further down now b/c I'm worried about "ease of living," such as buying groceries, traveling around the city for simple necessities, etc. Now, I can simply hop into my car and get whatever I want and how much I want. Any help is appreciated.

Current ROL
1. Duke (set)
2. UPMC (set)
--------------------------
3. WashU
4. Vanderbilt
5. UNC
6. Cornell
7. NW
8. UofChicago
9. Yale
--------------------------
10. - 14. Others

I think you have to simply know yourself. it's okay to like smaller Southern cities/college towns better than the NE corridor or Chicago (gasp!). although for my money, I'd have put Vandy number two - Nashville kicks Durham's/Pitt's/STL's @sses as a city, and Vandy is a phenomenal program.

 

[texasguy]

There's 4 program's in the middle of my list that I can't decide how to rank and would be grateful for any/all advice. I'd prefer to be in a desirable location but want to make sure I have the best options for a future heme/onc or cards fellowship after residency, as well (yeah i know i want to have my cake and eat it too):

Yale
Duke
UC-Irvine
Scripps Clinic
BCM-Houston

Thanks in advance!!

 

[applegeek1234]

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[jdh71]

Thanks for the input! How about Harbor-UCLA? Is that considered a community program too? (it's an LA county hospital).

Also, Scripps Mercy has a 16-year 100% ABIM board pass rate, which I was impressed with and seems to have a fairly solid fellowship match list: http://www.scripps.org/health-educa...ams__program-highlights__fellowship-positions. The things that actually kept me from ranking them higher were that 1) I'm not that familiar with/haven't heard much about this program, and 2) I didn't feel like I got a representative sample of residents to talk with during my interview day. Also, many of the residents in their class come from DO schools--nothing against DO students, but I've heard that this may indicate that the program is less competitive?

Also, am I stupid for not putting CCF higher on my list? For both VCU and CCF, it's not that I didn't like the programs, but it was more the location that I didn't like as much.

Anyone else have any input about my rank list? Thanks again!

Your board pass will ALL be on you. People that don't pass generally don't study, or don't study right - outliers notwithstanding.

Harbor is a county program, which kind of bumps it up over a commuity program, and it also has a strong pulmonary and critical care division - arguably the stongest division there - with connects that can get to much bigger named placed. Now the match to pulm/crit from SM was alright, and probably represents the interests of the classes that have matriculated through - UCSD is a top pulm/crit program. So it's not like a SM spot is a big handicap to finding a nice pulm/crit spot, but you'll have more options and more variety at another spot. You had said those programs were kind of interchangeable in your mind, so I figured all things being equal, my suggested move makes sense. Though I seriously doubt you match this low ony our list honestly.

I don't think you're wrong for putting CCF and VCU where they are if that's kind of the way you liked them all thigs considered. Like I said, you won't match this low on your list.

 

[jdh71]

THE Ohio State Medical Center WAS a nice program, but unfortunately it no longer exists...standing its place now is THE Wexner Medical Center at OSU

Yeah, but it's still the OSU internal medicine program.

I'm not sure I get your point.

 

[jdh71]

There's 4 program's in the middle of my list that I can't decide how to rank and would be grateful for any/all advice. I'd prefer to be in a desirable location but want to make sure I have the best options for a future heme/onc or cards fellowship after residency, as well (yeah i know i want to have my cake and eat it too):

Yale
Duke
UC-Irvine
Scripps Clinic
BCM-Houston

Thanks in advance!!

Duke
Baylor
Yale (loses secondary to location)
Irvine

 

[Jetty]

Last minute changes?

1 JHU
2 OHSU
3 Pitt

4 Mayo
5 UAB
6 UVA

7 Scripps Green
8 Cedars Sinai
9 Harbor UCLA

1-3 set in stone. thinking about switching 4-6 with 7-9. Family in Cali which is a HUGE plus (esp for wife) but feel like Ill be missing out on a lot of opportunities I can get from a University program. Thinking about Heme/Onc vs Academic Hospitalist vs global Health. Need insight..

 

[jdh71]

Last minute changes?

1 JHU
2 OHSU
3 Pitt

4 Mayo
5 UAB
6 UVA

7 Scripps Green
8 Cedars Sinai
9 Harbor UCLA

1-3 set in stone. thinking about switching 4-6 with 7-9. Family in Cali which is a HUGE plus (esp for wife) but feel like Ill be missing out on a lot of opportunities I can get from a University program. Thinking about Heme/Onc vs Academic Hospitalist vs global Health. Need insight..

sweet list

no changes

 

[Excitedtobemd]

Hey everyone...good luck today! Can't believe we've reached the point of rank list day. Time flies.

Anyway, wanted to get some some of your sage advice (at the last minute, sorry!) on my list. It currently stands:

1. Brigham DGM
2. Brigham categorical
3. MGH
4. Columbia
5. Brigham HVMA
6. Mt. Sinai
7. UPenn
8. NYU
9. Yale
10. BIDMC

This is my question, I really want to be in NYC, but I felt the Boston programs were a better fit for what I want professionally. Would I be crazy to rank the NYC programs higher than BWH and MGH? And yes, I know that this is really splitting hairs, but today I'm in the hair splitting business!

Thank you for your thoughts.

 

[applegeek1234]

jdh & gutonc, I wanted your blessings on my final list. Interested in cards vs. pulm/cc vs. heme/onc. I haven't changed my list for 3 days now, so I think this is it.

1. NYU
2. UCSD
3. UCLA
4. USC
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5. WashU
6. Vandy
7. Baylor
8. UCI
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9. CPMC
10. Case
11. CCF
12. SLU

#1-4 are final; based on location (big coast city) + strength + gut feeling.
#5-8 based on strength + gut feeling... tempted to move UCI to #5, but I shouldn't... right?
#9-12 based on location.

Big question:
SLU is my wild-card. I fell in love with SLU during my interview experience (the PD & residents were so warm and down-to-earth that at one point, I ranked it #1... don't judge; I appreciate cool peoples). But then, I faced reality: it's in the Midwest, and it's not as strong as my other Midwest programs. I'm inclined to move it above Case & CCF; should I keep SLU where it is or move it up?

Thanks for your input!

 

[jdh71]

Hey everyone...good luck today! Can't believe we've reached the point of rank list day. Time flies.

Anyway, wanted to get some some of your sage advice (at the last minute, sorry!) on my list. It currently stands:

1. Brigham DGM
2. Brigham categorical
3. MGH
4. Columbia
5. Brigham HVMA
6. Mt. Sinai
7. UPenn
8. NYU
9. Yale
10. BIDMC

This is my question, I really want to be in NYC, but I felt the Boston programs were a better fit for what I want professionally. Would I be crazy to rank the NYC programs higher than BWH and MGH? And yes, I know that this is really splitting hairs, but today I'm in the hair splitting business!

Thank you for your thoughts.

Go with the better fit.

 

[mangos3]

So another question I had is how much residency location dictates where you end up afterwards, i.e. for jobs or fellowship? If, for example, I am unsure about whether I want to stay on the west coast long term, but would be happy staying for the duration of a 3-yr residency program, should I rank west coast programs lower on my list? In other words, should where I want to end up long term play a factor in how I rank my programs?

 

[texasguy]

Duke
Baylor
Yale (loses secondary to location)
Irvine

Thanks!

I've only been to Durham for a day during my interview...is there much to do in the surrounding area? I know New Haven doesn't offer much more but with NYC an hour away I figure that could make for more pleasurable days off...maybe i'm wrong!