Cat's MeoWW - Game Thread

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First developed in the 1980’s from a cross between a male serval and a domestic female, Savannahs have grown in popularity over time. This breed is known for their loyalty, inquisitive nature, and peculiar hiss. They also have a tendency to enjoy playing in water. You may choose one player each night to visit and give a fish to.
 
Woah woah woah stop that

I do think role reveals are important but did we forget what happened in dogs already? It was just discussed a few days ago

Yeah but we could lose if we mislynch. Plenty of double NKs happened when neither party revealed their breed. Plus acanth revealed hers days ago and nothing happened. We ended up lynching her
 
Yeah but we could lose if we mislynch. Plenty of double NKs happened when neither party revealed their breed. Plus acanth revealed hers days ago and nothing happened. We ended up lynching her
That plus I highly doubt they would use the same double kill mechanism in two games of theirs in a row. Not that that's a great argument but come on.
 
Yeah but we could lose if we mislynch. Plenty of double NKs happened when neither party revealed their breed. Plus acanth revealed hers days ago and nothing happened. We ended up lynching her
Yes but we also lose if we hand the wolves double kills.

So anyway. I was thinking during dinner and can’t decide what I hate more. We all can agree genny isn’t Village. So do we take the chance genny isn’t alpha and try to lynch a sure wolf today, or do we try to get all of the villagers on a single other wolf lynch?

I still feel the way I did yesterday and the day before about genny and how I would rather lynch a different wolf first but lol I would hate so much if she’s actually killable. Unfortunately either seems equally likely so I can’t even say what I trust more
 
I think my wolf crew is genny, cubs, Barks. I would probably still go for a cubs lynch over the other two.

Edit: maybe. I need to reread. I think I read some posts while I was asleep
 
I think genny is an alpha, or at minimum some kind of unkillable 3rd party, so I dunno if wasting a lynch there does any good. But also we don’t really have a good village consensus. My list has one orange and 3 yellow after genny. So I guess if I’m coming off that I’d be voting Dina. What are people’s thoughts there? Or who would you rather vote for?
 
Ugh I wish I was actually confident with any of you being village. I think I’m fine with cubs and lawper. What do people think of coop?

I'm probably the most confident out of anyone else here that not an OG wolf

I think genny is an alpha, or at minimum some kind of unkillable 3rd party, so I dunno if wasting a lynch there does any good. But also we don’t really have a good village consensus. My list has one orange and 3 yellow after genny. So I guess if I’m coming off that I’d be voting Dina. What are people’s thoughts there? Or who would you rather vote for?

Um obviously it's not to vote for me. I put my role out for everyone to see. Why do you want to lynch me?
 
I think my wolf crew is genny, cubs, Barks. I would probably still go for a cubs lynch over the other two.

Edit: maybe. I need to reread. I think I read some posts while I was asleep

It doesn't really matter at this point because I posted my breed a few nights ago and if they wanted to win with a double NK tonight they could totally take me out.

I know that means less to everyone else who aren't 100 percent sure I'm village but my point still stands
 
I think genny is an alpha, or at minimum some kind of unkillable 3rd party, so I dunno if wasting a lynch there does any good. But also we don’t really have a good village consensus. My list has one orange and 3 yellow after genny. So I guess if I’m coming off that I’d be voting Dina. What are people’s thoughts there? Or who would you rather vote for?
I agree about the genny thing and idk I’m not feeling that Dina is wolf
 
I'd like to hear more from Barks and Lawpy today. I've had them as village all along based on the kata lynch, and they just seem to be skating by on that.

I'd also like to hear more from Dina and Capri. I feel like both of those roles can't be village. Especially with at least two wolves left.

And then Cubs has barely contributed all game. But he's showing up now? So I'd like to hear more from him.

Coop is über sketchville to me. She's done nothing but act very village this whole game, and she's usually on everyone's radar a lot more, so why aren't we considering her this game? I don't get it.

And Sporty is quite possibly the only player sketchier than Coop. She helped flip that vote to Allie last second, then she called for everyone to role reveal today before backing off, and she's barely been around (i.e. under the radar) until the past 48 hours. Seems like a wolf trying to get that last push to victory.

The only person in this whole game who seems even remotely village to me is Genny, and I'd certainly like to hear a lot more from her. Maybe some cat gifs too.
 
Ok sorry guys just got back from work, I meant to be on earlier but got roped into teaching sophomores in highschool radiology (lol like I know anything about radiology)

I'm worried that since the double kills aren't following a logical timing pattern (that I could see anyways) the wolves may have just been given a max number of double kills throughout the game and I don't want to treat this as a MYLO where the logical choice would be to lynch Genny and see if it was a 1x avoidance or not.

I've got barks, Capri and lawp as village right now.

Sporty has been acting pretty sketchy lately calling for role reveals (before today I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and disappearing at times. She was pippys neighbor and they didn't manage to establish any trust there to the point pip was calling out sporty before she died. So sporty is in my sketch pile.

Cubs is also in my sketch pile simply because I don't have a lot on him. I've certainly never gotten a fish but I believe the people who do.

Dina I had as strong village early game because she pmed mel and that was that. Later she pmed me again and we discussed strategy and I thought she was village. Then Capri pointed out a potential rojo and I panicked. Dina had been suspicious of Capri all along because they were both PM roles. I've pulled some quotes because I wanted to make sure this was the right call. So please hold for them.
 
Some theories I have regarding her role mostly.

Also not a fan of her trying convince ms p and coop in PM that I rojo'd but nobody has said what the post was or elaborated on it in the thread
So Dina was voting Capri because they both had PM roles
Wait where did I go? 🙁

Also can someone tell me why it wouldn't make sense for allie as a wolf blocker to block paws on a night the wolves knew there wouldn't be any NKs to then be able to throw her under the bus the day after? Because the thought is putting her in my wolf list.
This was the potential rojo that was discussed and when questioned:
how would the wolves know there wouldn't be NKs n2?
Conversion is one example I can think of or some other mechanic that exists that allowed them to do 2 NKs last night, or by choice which is probably the least likely possibility
She kinda seems to brush it off but I ask about the conversion possibility later and get:
Not necessarily
Overall I'm not liking this whole sequence.


Then there's the ability conversation that's rubbing me the wrong way
Sure, but I'm not a wolf. You really think I would've willingly opened a PM with you today?
Right but you didn't choose me specifically
I thought you couldn’t choose who you opened it with?
I also had the thought that Genny knew about Dina's PM role because she's in a wolf chat with Dina and thought it was already out on thread.

I truly thought Dina was a villager because she knew my role and didn't kill me, but now I'm thinking it was a successful pocket, and what wolf wouldn't keep a player they had pocketed around especially if they kept defending them like I did with Dina?

Lynch Dina
 
It doesn't really matter at this point because I posted my breed a few nights ago and if they wanted to win with a double NK tonight they could totally take me out.

I know that means less to everyone else who aren't 100 percent sure I'm village but my point still stands
Right, I was thinking about it while I was gone and enough people have put their entire breed information out on the thread where it's pointless anyway and wolves can win if that indeed is the double kill mechanic.

Good point, she brought it up and I don’t remember seeing her say it. My reasons on you are in the color coded post, but the PM wifom can’t be proven, or may have been intentionally all village to mess with us.
Dude. You play so much better than this. How many days in a row are you going to go and try to make me look sketchy for things I didn't actually do? I called for a role reveal after I already did.


For a full flavor reveal, since I realized it won't matter at this point anyway:
The Manx originated on the Isle of Man and are best known for the tailless body the breed can have. Many Manx retain a small stub of a tail, and an old local term for the breed is stubbin. Manx are a social breed, so it is fitting you are a neighbor. You may converse freely with your mod assigned neighbor.
 
Ok sorry guys just got back from work, I meant to be on earlier but got roped into teaching sophomores in highschool radiology (lol like I know anything about radiology)

I'm worried that since the double kills aren't following a logical timing pattern (that I could see anyways) the wolves may have just been given a max number of double kills throughout the game and I don't want to treat this as a MYLO where the logical choice would be to lynch Genny and see if it was a 1x avoidance or not.

I've got barks, Capri and lawp as village right now.

Sporty has been acting pretty sketchy lately calling for role reveals (before today I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and disappearing at times. She was pippys neighbor and they didn't manage to establish any trust there to the point pip was calling out sporty before she died. So sporty is in my sketch pile.

Cubs is also in my sketch pile simply because I don't have a lot on him. I've certainly never gotten a fish but I believe the people who do.

Dina I had as strong village early game because she pmed mel and that was that. Later she pmed me again and we discussed strategy and I thought she was village. Then Capri pointed out a potential rojo and I panicked. Dina had been suspicious of Capri all along because they were both PM roles. I've pulled some quotes because I wanted to make sure this was the right call. So please hold for them.
Why do you have barks as village? Just asking since I have her in my wolf trio
 
So Dina was voting Capri because they both had PM roles

This was the potential rojo that was discussed and when questioned:


She kinda seems to brush it off but I ask about the conversion possibility later and get:

Overall I'm not liking this whole sequence.


Then there's the ability conversation that's rubbing me the wrong way



I also had the thought that Genny knew about Dina's PM role because she's in a wolf chat with Dina and thought it was already out on thread.

I truly thought Dina was a villager because she knew my role and didn't kill me, but now I'm thinking it was a successful pocket, and what wolf wouldn't keep a player they had pocketed around especially if they kept defending them like I did with Dina?

Lynch Dina
First of all why would that be something I would have said in wolf chat?

Second how do you know that genny didn't find out from someone else in wolf chat? I've PMed with multiple people and there are so many PM and messaging roles. Honestly I thought you told capri and MsP and somehow it had gotten back to genny. I also PMed with Pip so who knows if she told Sporty or not.
 
First of all why would that be something I would have said in wolf chat?

Second how do you know that genny didn't find out from someone else in wolf chat? I've PMed with multiple people and there are so many PM and messaging roles. Honestly I thought you told capri and MsP and somehow it had gotten back to genny. I also PMed with Pip so who knows if she told Sporty or not.
As I said it was just a thought, those are valid counterpoints, but as to how if you were in wolfchat she would know your ability because that's how wolfchat works.
 
The reason I think Barks and Cubs are the other two wolves is because it's an easy way for the vouch to happen. Cubs said earlier on (yesterday?) that Barks could vouch for his role. I have a hard time believing the ability literally is just to give a fish that does nothing. Maybe the fish is the jailing/blocking mechanism? Gives the fish, they're distracted and can't use their ability that night. That role flavor he posted is SUPER vague and I have a hard time believing that the mods would just be like, "hey you can hand out fish" and leave it at that. It's POSSIBLE, but not probable. Kinda not so nice to not specify... and I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't ask for clarification.
 
It was pointed out by Capri as she somehow assumed the wolves knew there would be a no kill night N2. She then has to back up and give a reason, just felt off. I know people who've been caught on less

How do you know capri hasn't tried to pocket you? Do you have direct evidence that she's village?
 
The reason I think Barks and Cubs are the other two wolves is because it's an easy way for the vouch to happen. Cubs said earlier on (yesterday?) that Barks could vouch for his role. I have a hard time believing the ability literally is just to give a fish that does nothing. Maybe the fish is the jailing/blocking mechanism? Gives the fish, they're distracted and can't use their ability that night. That role flavor he posted is SUPER vague and I have a hard time believing that the mods would just be like, "hey you can hand out fish" and leave it at that. It's POSSIBLE, but not probable. Kinda not so nice to not specify... and I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't ask for clarification.
you could say that the entire situation smells a little.... fishy.
 
Right, I was thinking about it while I was gone and enough people have put their entire breed information out on the thread where it's pointless anyway and wolves can win if that indeed is the double kill mechanic.


Dude. You play so much better than this. How many days in a row are you going to go and try to make me look sketchy for things I didn't actually do? I called for a role reveal after I already did.


For a full flavor reveal, since I realized it won't matter at this point anyway:
The Manx originated on the Isle of Man and are best known for the tailless body the breed can have. Many Manx retain a small stub of a tail, and an old local term for the breed is stubbin. Manx are a social breed, so it is fitting you are a neighbor. You may converse freely with your mod assigned neighbor.

No, we knew your ability, but didnt know the breed and write up which you had also called for. Im not trying to manufacture sketch, it was just a simple fact. I mean youre voting me simply for nothing other than"tone," so I dunno.
 
The reason I think Barks and Cubs are the other two wolves is because it's an easy way for the vouch to happen. Cubs said earlier on (yesterday?) that Barks could vouch for his role. I have a hard time believing the ability literally is just to give a fish that does nothing. Maybe the fish is the jailing/blocking mechanism? Gives the fish, they're distracted and can't use their ability that night. That role flavor he posted is SUPER vague and I have a hard time believing that the mods would just be like, "hey you can hand out fish" and leave it at that. It's POSSIBLE, but not probable. Kinda not so nice to not specify... and I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't ask for clarification.
I didn’t even realize it was him until he said I knew his role. And the message I got that night literally just said I got a fish and it came with a message. I tried to use it but I never got any results that it did anything and I don’t have an ability to block so idk :shrug:
 
No, we knew your ability, but didnt know the breed and write up which you had also called for. Im not trying to manufacture sketch, it was just a simple fact. I mean youre voting me simply for nothing other than"tone," so I dunno.
oh wow except I definitely didn't call for the breed and write up. I literally earlier today said I didn't think it was a good idea.

And also lol no. I'm voting for you because you're wolfy. See above.
 
The reason I think Barks and Cubs are the other two wolves is because it's an easy way for the vouch to happen. Cubs said earlier on (yesterday?) that Barks could vouch for his role. I have a hard time believing the ability literally is just to give a fish that does nothing. Maybe the fish is the jailing/blocking mechanism? Gives the fish, they're distracted and can't use their ability that night. That role flavor he posted is SUPER vague and I have a hard time believing that the mods would just be like, "hey you can hand out fish" and leave it at that. It's POSSIBLE, but not probable. Kinda not so nice to not specify... and I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't ask for clarification.
@cubsrule4e who did you hand out fish to and when? Can anyone here back up your claim?

Has anyone else been blocked from using their ability since allieh died? Cubs answer first so we can see if it lines up at all
 
Sorry swamped. Please check if this is right.

Unofficial D8 Cat Construction Tally
cubs (1) - Sporty
Dina (1) - Coops

2/8 voting
Lynch close ~1.2 hours
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