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As a general statement, digging fence post holes suck. Doing it in Rocky ground sucks worse.

How's everyone else's day going?

Oof. Tell my husband this. The house we're buying has an awesome yard but isn't fenced yet, and that's our #1 priority once we move in. I wanted us to just hire someone to do it but he's insisting he wants to do it himself.. He's perfectly capable but works like crazy and I just KNOW we're going to end up with half dug post holes in our yard for like 6 months before he finishes it.
 
Not allowing myself to agree with you more, so gonna just say that I don't disagree. Tunneling is easy as a woof. Who else do you wanna call out @Animal Midwife ?
Everyone who thought starting the game off with a random 8-way for 24+ hours and not making any useful content posts was great.

The fact that people only are quoting me and not anyone else (because what has anyone else even said that can be analyzed) is showing how bad that was.
 
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Yeet Mel

Wow my phone autocorrected yeet to test :laugh: I clearly do not use hip terminology
Correlation not causation
Does everyone have a vote but dubz?
Wait is there pming in this game?
I guess I'm confused as to what that statement was about then.
Oh whoops sporty isn't playing. Zero reading comprehension :laugh:
Which of these posts is giving you a village tone read @WildZoo? I pulled out only the game-relevant posts, but they look NAI to me at best.
 
I'm confused why that's a me problem when it's >70% of players? Unless you want to ask tell people no more Harry and to justify their joke votes I said already said would be an issue in advance.
Just saying cubs is like your new capri/Ms P it seems. He made a valid comment that was actually content and the first thing you do is call him a wolf, and I'm not sure I understand the train of thought that led there.
 
Well, cubs isn't replying to my posts anymore and almost everyone else is discussing Harry Potter or me. I don't know what how I'm supposed to progress the game all by myself with these "interactions". I don't think most players even made a single content post yet.
Not calling him a wolf yet, but I’m not getting as much village vibes from cubs this game like I was last game
 
Just saying cubs is like your new capri/Ms P it seems. He made a valid comment that was actually content and the first thing you do is call him a wolf, and I'm not sure I understand the train of thought that led there.
It was "content" in the sense that he admitted he was saying things simply to say things and has yet to do anything else. Don't see the comparison to capri/MsP as I've only unintentionally misyote him once and have correctly caught him every time he was a wolf or exclusive 3p.
 
It was "content" in the sense that he admitted he was saying things simply to say things and has yet to do anything else. Don't see the comparison to capri/MsP as I've only unintentionally misyote him once and have correctly caught him every time he was a wolf or exclusive 3p.
My point is this was a very quick jump from cubs making an actual game-related comment to you saying he's howling. I could see it coming later from the disengagement in the discussion, but the immediacy seems odd. My impression is that you are quick to vote for cubs for any reason, just as he often seems quick to focus on you. How often you are intentionally or unintentionally incorrect is not going to mean much to me until I have a read on you.

AM complaining about no discussion and then spurring on no discussion. My vote may actually be correct.
Point out what I should be discussing. Do I need to say you're howling already?

I'm just trying to understand why your first thought here was that he's a wolf, and moreso than anyone else who was fluffing, because that would not have been my conclusion from that single post...
 
My point is this was a very quick jump from cubs making an actual game-related comment to you saying he's howling. I could see it coming later from the disengagement in the discussion, but the immediacy seems odd. My impression is that you are quick to vote for cubs for any reason, just as he often seems quick to focus on you. How often you are intentionally or unintentionally incorrect is not going to mean much to me until I have a read on you.
Even if I do vote cubs often, isn't it for the best since it seems to help me read him correctly? Me getting a read on another player shouldn't affect your reads unless you plan to sheep me.
I'm just trying to understand why your first thought here was that he's a wolf, and moreso than anyone else who was fluffing, because that would not have been my conclusion from that single post...
Because he was the only one that ignored my question to, instead, make another NAI post.
 
Day 1 Vote/Yeet Tally
SAR (1) - DubZ
Cyndia (1) - Barks
Coopah (2) - Cyndia, Mel
Mel (1) - Coopah
cubs (1) - AM
Barks (1) - SAR
AM (1) - cubs
DubZ ()

8/8

Deadline closes TODAY at 10pm (~11 hours)

Reiterating that I want to hear more from @Melchizedek . After seeing the tally, his vote reads slightly retaliatory to me since he didn't give any reasons for it.

Also unyeet coop for now. Though I also wanna hear more from @Coopah because I agree with AM after she quoted all of her posts. Overall pretty noncommittal/contentless posts and I'm not getting many reads off of them.
 
Even if I do vote cubs often, isn't it for the best since it seems to help me read him correctly? Me getting a read on another player shouldn't affect your reads unless you plan to sheep me.
It affects me getting a read on you 😉

Because he was the only one that ignored my question to, instead, make another NAI post.
Yes, and like I said I understand that, I was talking about the initial howling comment
 
What differences are you seeing?
I was feeling more of an argumentative tone but then it was pointed out that it was against AM only who wasn’t in the last game so now I’m left thinking about how AI it really is. But either way I still have him more neutral from his tone than last game where I pretty quickly thought village
 
At least discussion is finally starting to pick up now though.
 
This feels wishy washy to me :thinking:

Fair, I see how that looks wishy washy since I unyeeted Coop then said I was still unsure about her. To clarify, I decided to unyeet bc I saw coop was technically in the lead and I didn’t feel as sketched by her as I do others. SAR or Mel is where I’m thinking about putting my vote at the moment.
 
Well, cubs isn't replying to my posts anymore and almost everyone else is discussing Harry Potter or me. I don't know what how I'm supposed to progress the game all by myself with these "interactions". I don't think most players even made a single content post yet.

Ive replied to them. Which ones have I missed? And if you want a specific answer to a specific thing I missed then a "go back and read the thread" answer is not acceptable here.
 
I'm confused why that's a me problem when it's >70% of players? Unless you want to ask tell people no more Harry and to justify their joke votes I said already said would be an issue in advance.

You have yet to justify your vote on me other than i "said something to say it" and for responding to a harry potter statement.
 
Oof. Tell my husband this. The house we're buying has an awesome yard but isn't fenced yet, and that's our #1 priority once we move in. I wanted us to just hire someone to do it but he's insisting he wants to do it himself.. He's perfectly capable but works like crazy and I just KNOW we're going to end up with half dug post holes in our yard for like 6 months before he finishes it.

Cyndia talking about her house again... meta of 1 but wolfy.
 
My point is this was a very quick jump from cubs making an actual game-related comment to you saying he's howling. I could see it coming later from the disengagement in the discussion, but the immediacy seems odd. My impression is that you are quick to vote for cubs for any reason, just as he often seems quick to focus on you. How often you are intentionally or unintentionally incorrect is not going to mean much to me until I have a read on you.




I'm just trying to understand why your first thought here was that he's a wolf, and moreso than anyone else who was fluffing, because that would not have been my conclusion from that single post...

I dont understand how thats not a valid game related post? The ending of it was a barb, sure. But my comment pointed out a change in behavior/playing style.
 
Ive replied to them. Which ones have I missed? And if you want a specific answer to a specific thing I missed then a "go back and read the thread" answer is not acceptable here.
Who else was just saying things to say things in this thread?
You have yet to justify your vote on me other than i "said something to say it" and for responding to a harry potter statement.
This is pretty ironic considering you've been sitting on a joke vote without discussing anyone else for almost 36 hours now. Do you think it helps village catch wolves to say things you don't actually mean and discuss Harry?
 
Feeling pretty ok about Coop in general, like Dubz I cant pinpoint why. She generally talks off topic a fair amount like with the HP thing, so thats NAI to me.

Barks hedging on me early in the game also is very common for her. Paranoid about me maybe but doesnt want to be the one to start voting me and then have me flip village and come back on her looking bad.

Chit chatty dubz seems fine, pressing AM pretty village play. AM's responses and general "you still havent responded to my questions" feels village as well. As is her targeting of me for no good reason.

SAR i am usually pretty non commital on early in the game, takes a lot of talking from her for me to start putting things together on affiliation. And even then I find her tricky. But I do agree with the things cyndia and dubz have pointed out.

I dont know where tf Mel is.

Most wolfy currently: SAR
Most village currently: Dub
 
Who else was just saying things to say things in this thread?

This is pretty ironic considering you've been sitting on a joke vote without discussing anyone else for almost 36 hours now. Do you think it helps village catch wolves to say things you don't actually mean and discuss Harry?

Why do you always get SO upset if I havent moved my vote yet? If its not a majority game why does it matter?

unvote AM

How do you feel now?
 
Why do you always get SO upset if I havent moved my vote yet? If its not a majority game why does it matter?

unvote AM

How do you feel now?
It actually matters more in a plurality game than a majority game. In a majority game, you have to be careful where and when you move to prevent maj or information loss the further the game goes on. With pluarilty, it's better to vote early and often since there literally nothing mechanically negative that can occur from have that extra info sooner.

I don't feel any different because I need to see you put your money where your mouth is with pushing and voting people.
 
Feeling pretty ok about Coop in general, like Dubz I cant pinpoint why. She generally talks off topic a fair amount like with the HP thing, so thats NAI to me.

Barks hedging on me early in the game also is very common for her. Paranoid about me maybe but doesnt want to be the one to start voting me and then have me flip village and come back on her looking bad.

Chit chatty dubz seems fine, pressing AM pretty village play. AM's responses and general "you still havent responded to my questions" feels village as well. As is her targeting of me for no good reason.

SAR i am usually pretty non commital on early in the game, takes a lot of talking from her for me to start putting things together on affiliation. And even then I find her tricky. But I do agree with the things cyndia and dubz have pointed out.

I dont know where tf Mel is.

Most wolfy currently: SAR
Most village currently: Dub
How do you feel about Cyndia?
 
It actually matters more in a plurality game than a majority game. In a majority game, you have to be careful where and when you move to prevent maj or information loss the further the game goes on. With pluarilty, it's better to vote early and often since there literally nothing mechanically negative that can occur from have that extra info sooner.

I don't feel any different because I need to see you put your money where your mouth is with pushing and voting people.

But what is mechanically positive about having my vote somewhere continuously or immediately at 9am? Im speaking so people know what my reads are, and those change as the day progresses, as do votes. Also, if we learned anything from last game, mechanics are unreliable. Your words, and proven to be correct. So :shrug:
 
How do you feel about Cyndia?

Cyndia, from what ive seen so far, likes to project and give her opinion on "well a wolf/villager would do this," when someone says or does something that she can use to argue her cause of contributing. Like at the end of last game when I threw out my vote onto barks to see if anyone would go there and then she did the same thing 5 minutes later and claimed it a village move, as if people didnt see that I had just done the same thing. Thats actually when I became convinced she was one of the wolves. So not looking in a positive light right now, but again I only have one game plus one cycle to go on. But more to the wolfy side of the player list.
 
But what is mechanically positive about having my vote somewhere continuously or immediately at 9am? Im speaking so people know what my reads are, and those change as the day progresses, as do votes. Also, if we learned anything from last game, mechanics are unreliable. Your words, and proven to be correct. So :shrug:
You can pressure whoever your voting with enough time for them to respond. Actions speak louder than words and all that. Sharing reads is better than no reads at all but at the end of the day your vote shows what you really want to happen.

You are confusing unconfirmable mechanics (night actions) with confirmable mechanics (VCA).
 
Cyndia, from what ive seen so far, likes to project and give her opinion on "well a wolf/villager would do this," when someone says or does something that she can use to argue her cause of contributing. Like at the end of last game when I threw out my vote onto barks to see if anyone would go there and then she did the same thing 5 minutes later and claimed it a village move, as if people didnt see that I had just done the same thing. Thats actually when I became convinced she was one of the wolves. So not looking in a positive light right now, but again I only have one game plus one cycle to go on. But more to the wolfy side of the player list.
So you think she and SAR are w/w?
 
You can pressure whoever your voting with enough time for them to respond. Actions speak louder than words and all that. Sharing reads is better than no reads at all but at the end of the day your vote shows what you really want to happen.

You are confusing unconfirmable mechanics (night actions) with confirmable mechanics (VCA).

So how do you distinguish between a villager being honest about voting and putting their vote somewhere even when they arent sure and a wolf doing the same thing and putting out votes to confuse people (@Sunbodi ring a bell?)? I guess I just dont see it as important as you. Sorry that we disagree.

In fact though, reading out my prior post about cyndia in my head, I feel like thats more of a wolf lead than SAR right now, despite the limited game experience. So if youre looking for a commitment even though it might change, vote cyndia.
 
So how do you distinguish between a villager being honest about voting and putting their vote somewhere even when they arent sure and a wolf doing the same thing and putting out votes to confuse people (@Sunbodi ring a bell?)? I guess I just dont see it as important as you. Sorry that we disagree.

In fact though, reading out my prior post about cyndia in my head, I feel like thats more of a wolf lead than SAR right now, despite the limited game experience. So if youre looking for a commitment even though it might change, vote cyndia.
The same way I always have. By doing VCA and reading posts. It's a baseline WW skill everyone should have otherwise they're left begging for a PR every game to understand anything. In fact, I've started teaching Suni to use this strategy instead since it's better for her playstyle.
 
The same way I always have. By doing VCA and reading posts. It's a baseline WW skill everyone should have otherwise they're left begging for a PR every game to understand anything. In fact, I've started teaching Suni to use this strategy instead since it's better for her playstyle.

There have been no flips yet, so VCA gives no information at the moment. Or am I wrong?
 
There have been no flips yet, so VCA gives no information at the moment. Or am I wrong?
That is incorrect. Otherwise, every vote would be RNG'd the first cycle if there were nothing to glean about VCA (when, where, and why someone votes where they do). Early and often votes provides this. Joke votes do not.
 
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