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Melchizedek said:
I don't think its a bus. I think it might be an attempt to get a villager voted off. There's been discussion about mkg but not a lot of action so I wouldn't put it past you to see village considering an incorrect pack and vote within that false!pack.
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Ah ok, that makes more sense. Not what's happening, but I could see it looking that way.
 
WildZoo said:
Ah ok, that makes more sense. Not what's happening, but I could see it looking that way.
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You're being reasonable?

WildZoo said:
I'm not getting that "woah vis is VILLAGE" feeling yet this game which worries me a bit
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and sheeping my read?

I'm feeling warm and fuzzy 🤣
 
cubsrule4e said:
It just seemed strange to throw out, especially when you followed it up with "no mod would ever kill 2 wolves in a tie D1" as to then take away from the whole point of my line of questioning as to why neither self prezzed.
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Ok, my point was that the only scenario where I could see a wolf not self prezzing there is if they were both wolves. It wasn't to take away from your point (I wasn't aware you had one, you had just asked the question), it was to give my opinion.
 
Melchizedek said:
But if you try sometimes, well, you might find
You get what you need

and I need you to show me some wolf hunting.
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What do you want, ISOs? I don't do those. You want reads? I've given what I have at this point. I can give you a pretty color-coded list when a couple more people move out of neutral, doesn't feel worth the effort yet. The two people I'm most interested in aren't here at the moment, so not much to do in terms of questioning.
 
cubsrule4e said:
If we are to believe this is a basics game, we shouldnt be overly dwelling on PRs anyway, just as we shouldnt be overly dwelling on Bobs conversion drivel.
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🙁
Melchizedek said:
its like you're looking into my soul. Or at least the hollow space where mine should be I guess
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I will second this (third?). I know that I feel less threatened when I am village. I only get more defensive if I strongly feel like it is a wolf push to misyeet.
 
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Melchizedek said:
Because you've died using your voice and town, if they're playing well, should be following up on your questions and pushes because after you flip, you're a confirmed town voice with opinions that have been spelled out.
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Putting down a late self-preservation vote clearly marked as such once it is clearly necessary and after spending the rest of the cycle questioning, pushing, and voting with your real thoughts doesn’t give up spelling out your opinions. I get what you’re saying about how useful those opinions are to village once you’re confirmed village vs when you’re alive and still under suspicion (surviving a contentious vote can make everyone fixated on flipping you for info anyway, which can be deleterious to discussion if everyone gets too fixated on just you because you’re “an egg to be cracked”). But I think in the end it’s focusing on the positive side (getting a retrospective look at a flipped townie’s opinions) of a net negative (misyeeting a villager).
 
Chaostrodon said:
You speak as if this is a rare occurrence.

Self preservation leads to outing PRs all the time in my experience.
Even assuming a uniform distribution of the counterwagon between PRs/Non-PRs this should be happening approx 20 percentage of the time
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If you only self-pres as an important PR doesn’t that also out PRs?
 
Chaostrodon said:
I dont know what you are trying to accomplish here .
I just explained why there is a reason to seperate PRs from VTs
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I’m still not comfortable reading chaos as town after seeing what he’s capable of as wolf but the argument style reminds me strongly of how he’s villaged and much less of his wolfing last game
 
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