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This is also a decent way to attempt to pocket AM.every post AM makes is more in her village meta. I feel fairly confident in calling her that now
This is also a decent way to attempt to pocket AM.every post AM makes is more in her village meta. I feel fairly confident in calling her that now
I don't need to pocket AM ever, thanksThis is also a decent way to attempt to pocket AM.
>imagine being so against my existence that an independent read, which says nothing about sheeping me, threatens youI have no read on AM one way or another yet but I've built my brand on being anti-sheeping AM so I am also anti-this post
This is exactly how I felt but I couldn't put it into wordsI have no read on AM one way or another yet but I've built my brand on being anti-sheeping AM so I am also anti-this post
The homework comment was taking it too far? Joking that people could read up on the theme? 😆Also there is no Tenya Ida on the roster, so I gathered without googling this is a flavor reference.
That would be fine, but the homework comment was taking it too far imo.
But sure, pull a Pippy, April. Happy to have wolves come at me and "read" me wolfy for BS reasons. I invite it. I live for it.
I could see the exchange as w/w. Could also see it as w/v on either side. Wolves have to like, say stuff, yanno, and appear to care about replies. Could fit in that category for either of them.I guess I don't know what to make of the chaos/genny thing. I was curious why chaos voted for me too so quick, but wasn't going to question the vote because I want to be mayor lol.
Him withholding info from genny didn't strike me as wolfy because I don't really see a wolfy motive behind it.
I have no problem with your existence, but goats and other games left deep scars>imagine being so against my existence that an independent read, which says nothing about sheeping me, threatens you
I won't forget similar words coming from Genny moments before AM and the rest of her pack wonfor whatever reason I'm good at reading AM and almost always get her alignment right
if you don't listen to anything else I say this game, listen to me on this. AM is very probably a villager
I could see the exchange as w/w. Could also see it as w/v on either side. Wolves have to like, say stuff, yanno, and appear to care about replies. Could fit in that category for either of them.
go to MU. read ANY game I've played with AM and you'll see that I just have a good read on her.I have no problem with your existence, but goats and other games left deep scars
what concerns me more about that post is the level of confidence about any players alignment so early in game, which always makes me uncomfy.
I'm not genny and it's not near the end of the gameI won't forget similar words coming from Genny moments before AM and the rest of her pack won
My only point is I'm taking everything with a grain of salt alwaysI'm not genny and it's not near the end of the game
I appreciate that Goats has now become "multiple games" and that we gloss over how you misread me every game before and after that (even if I exclude your wolf rand). Y'all need to get closure before I start calling ya Tunnel Tele.I have no problem with your existence, but goats and other games left deep scars
what concerns me more about that post is the level of confidence about any players alignment so early in game, which always makes me uncomfy.
I'm beginning to remember why I quit playing on SDN
I am not wolf reading you right nowI appreciate that Goats has now become "multiple games" and that we gloss over how you misread me every game before and after that (even if I exclude your wolf rand). Y'all need to get closure before I start calling ya Tunnel Tele.
You will eventually learn that confidence is a good thing (especially early game) when you have evidence to back it up. Hedging helps wolves, confidence helps village.
Then there's no reason to be anti that post unless you're also anti anyone wolf reading me.I am not wolf reading you right now
Sure, if someone came out that strongly reading you wolf already I'd also be uncomfy. nobody has that I've seen thoughThen there's no reason to be anti that post unless you're also anti anyone wolf reading me.
Anything in particular stand out to you as village!April?My early gut instinct is leaning April village
It’s not even worth a hat, so not much.I agree AM sounds like her village self here so far, for whatever that might be worth to anyone![]()
That's fairIt’s not even worth a hat, so not much.![]()
This message brought to you by votes for Dina hahaMy early gut instinct is leaning April village
Fair enough, and I didn't say anything about that. Just that those sorts of jokey flavor related comments always make me a little unsettled. That's not the same as not following. And this flavor of humorlessness about comments that are flavor related and may or may not be actually game-mechanics related, is common for me.Fair, but for Bread specifically I see it as NAI
I don't expect people to know that. I also don't expect several people to jump down my throat about reading someone early. ffs, you guys are making posts that are alignment indicative at this point. Having reads is not unheard ofI can confirm that on MU dy has a reputation for a solid enough reading card on AM that when we were wolfing together as hydras, she was compelled to bus AM and me into the ground 😉
But @dyachei most of these players don't know that or know you so I don't find taking a critical eye to your read all that surprising. People get jumpy about AM. And she (and genny) just swept in the last game.
She shouldn't be surprised, because having a reading card for AM in no way would would be AI for someone who is wolfing. It's NAI at best if someone has a reading card and also happens to read an actual villager as villager.I can confirm that on MU dy has a reputation for a solid enough reading card on AM that when we were wolfing together as hydras, she was compelled to bus AM and me into the ground 😉
But @dyachei most of these players don't know that or know you so I don't find taking a critical eye to your read all that surprising. People get jumpy about AM. And she (and genny) just swept in the last game.
True reading cards are always or nearly always (read >95%) AI for the person the read is being directed at. It's why I get stiff about Lawpy and specific kills.She shouldn't be surprised, because having a reading card for AM in no way would would be AI for someone who is wolfing. It's NAI at best if someone has a reading card and also happens to read an actual villager as villager.
it has to do with AM's tone and syntax. I don't want to say more than that because AM hasn't figured it out yet, but I can reliably read herShe shouldn't be surprised, because having a reading card for AM in no way would would be AI for someone who is wolfing. It's NAI at best if someone has a reading card and also happens to read an actual villager as villager.
What I meant is I think it was more about how people feel about AM than how people feel about your alignment (perhaps with the exception of cray) for having the read. Like if you had an early read on someone else there might have been less skepticism. But AM triggers peopleI don't expect people to know that. I also don't expect several people to jump down my throat about reading someone early. ffs, you guys are making posts that are alignment indicative at this point. Having reads is not unheard of
and instead of telling me you're going to disregard everything I said, you could have said I'll take it with a grain of salt. Instead it was complete denial
It's like no one wants to think about the reasoning for reads anymore, they just jump to the most paranoid
I meant the person doing the reading. If I can usually correctly read you as village when you are village and I am village, that's great. But if I'm wolf, my correct read of you as a villager when you are village, means a lot less for figuring out my own aff in this example, yes? Reading card holding status is much more useful when you have some sense of the person doing readings aff. Without that, it could just be a wolf protecting a packmate with a village read, or a wolf maintaining meta by village reading a villager they hold a card for.True reading cards are always or nearly always (read >95%) AI for the person the read is being directed at. It's why I get stiff about Lawpy and specific kills.
I did have early reads on others but not articulatable reads - gut reads are like that.What I meant is I think it was more about how people feel about AM than how people feel about your alignment (perhaps with the exception of cray) for having the read. Like if you had an early read on someone else there might have been less skepticism. But AM triggers people![]()
I'd do it for the lulzCurious on theory if any of the self voters have history or just want to give honest assessment of yourself if you would go for a position as a wolf, be that regular red or unseerable.
I am pretty random in my choices as a wolf, so I am sure I have gone for it at some point just for the fun of it. hehe
I believe you, because sometimes I can read her. Sometimes. And usually too late, but yeah.it has to do with AM's tone and syntax. I don't want to say more than that because AM hasn't figured it out yet, but I can reliably read her
I don't expect people to know that. I also don't expect several people to jump down my throat about reading someone early. ffs, you guys are making posts that are alignment indicative at this point. Having reads is not unheard of
and instead of telling me you're going to disregard everything I said, you could have said I'll take it with a grain of salt. Instead it was complete denial
It's like no one wants to think about the reasoning for reads anymore, they just jump to the most paranoid
Yes, I suppose that's what I'm trying to explain to others. So in the end, you do get a useful data point to narrow the POE and it shouldn't be wholly discarded.I meant the person doing the reading. If I can usually correctly read you as village when you are village and I am village, that's great. But if I'm wolf, my correct read of you as a villager when you are village, means a lot less for figuring out my own aff in this example, yes? Reading card holding status is much more useful when you have some sense of the person doing readings aff. Without that, it could just be a wolf protecting a packmate with a village read, or a wolf maintaining meta by village reading a villager they hold a card for.
Can you explain the Lawpy example more specifically? I don't follow.
I have reason to tell the truth about this as both alignments. you can still choose not to trust me if you want, but that's on youI believe you, because sometimes I can read her. Sometimes. And usually too late, but yeah.
The issue is your read can only be trusted if I trust you. Or if my own read of her agrees (which would give me a consensus on her, but still doesnt tell me your Aff)
Yup! I remember being taught that very important lesson by you in some game when I first started playing because someone you said was village was village and I thought, I can trust this person! Oh naive Lupin. hahaI have reason to tell the truth about this as both alignments. you can still choose not to trust me if you want, but that's on you
Arrow maybe? Damn, that's gonna bug me now.Yup! I remember being taught that very important lesson by you in some game when I first started playing because someone you said was village was village and I thought, I can trust this person! Oh naive Lupin. haha
Did you self vote? I need to copy the tally to this page.I'd do it for the lulz
Samac may very well have painted herself into a corner where she might feel like it would look odd for her not to go for a mayor role. I'm not sure on the others, would need someone with a better memory to say whether any of them have done it in the past.
Was saying people need to watch it to understand my joke voteBread already giving me a headache confusing me
I have a lame sense of humor so I could not skip that one.Fair enough, and I didn't say anything about that. Just that those sorts of jokey flavor related comments always make me a little unsettled. That's not the same as not following. And this flavor of humorlessness about comments that are flavor related and may or may not be actually game-mechanics related, is common for me.
It's a bit compensatory because I often don't pick up on softs and such. My attempts to watch for game related TMI and the like often leads me to take issue with players like Mayo and Bread who Crack flavor related jokes.
@LetItSnow must be rubbing off on me.Did you self vote? I need to copy the tally to this page.
ETA: Oh, yes you did then you voted me. My memory is suffering currently. obviously. lol
@LetItSnow must be rubbing off on me.![]()