Henry Stickmin - Game Thread

[Aprilthearab]

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There’s no majority day 1 and over 24 hours left. So no need to panic.

and considering my perspective, knowing I’m village, it seems weird that you are obsessing over me, an uninformed villager, getting pinged by your weird comment.

You say this as if everyone should automatically assume this and it feels weird

 

[WildZoo]

#### unyeet Mel ####

### yeet Mayo ####

Did you even read mayo's response to zenge?

 

[Zenge142]

I just thought Mayo's vote was for Dubz calling out Bread's height out of game but I should go back and re-read

First 3 posts of the game. Then his explanation for his vote. Nothing to do with bread, or anything really.

First!

Yeet April

Yeet WZ

I'm going to vote her out if she's a wolf. Training is useless if she has plot armor.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I dunno, 3 pages in and your tone already sounds wicked different to me than last game 🤷🏼‍♀️

You're welcome to dispute my assessment but I'm not sure why you'd want to lol

And I know no one asked, but I don't think Vis is a wolf either

I'm not going to argue, I'm just using it to think about how I feel about you

Why not Vis?

 

[WildZoo]

Did you even read mayo's response to zenge?

Actually I was thinking of his response to me

 

[WildZoo]

First 3 posts of the game. Then his explanation for his vote. Nothing to do with bread, or anything really.

He did mention bread though

You sullied my brother's good name!

 

[sunshinefl]

I am not panicking, I'm addressing a suspicious vote. Remember how I don't know you're village? How was my comment even weird?

Because it seemed like oh look guys I’m def not a wolf because I’m asking the wolves on thread not to kill me, and I’m then still not a wolf when I’m not killed because I asked.

You say this as if everyone should automatically assume this and it feels weird

I was directly responding to WZ saying her sus of me is justified because she knows she is a villager, and I’m saying I know I am a villager. Not sure how that’s weird or out of context.

 

[Aprilthearab]

First 3 posts of the game. Then his explanation for his vote. Nothing to do with bread, or anything really.

Oh I forgot about his explanation. Huh

I'll keep that in mind but I'm not set on yeeting him over that, I understand the point he made and I'll wait to see what else he says

 

[PippyPony]

I'm not going to argue, I'm just using it to think about how I feel about you

Why not Vis?

"try it for the 5th time and see" comment sounded like town flippancy

Takes mega guts to issue a dare like that as a wolf if you know you have a history of getting yeeted early

 

[Aprilthearab]

He did mention bread though

Oh that's where I got that impression from.

Kind of weirds me out that it was partially joke vote and partially not

 

[Viscernable]

Ok on second thought Mel makes a good point about Bob here

Leaving my vote where it is but eyeing both

I don’t really get it. Why would a wolf who was genuinely confused about somethong they want to know for choosing a NK ask it in thread instead of in wolfchat?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz (3) - mayo, Sporty, sunshine
Sporty (1) - Bread
Bread (3) - dubz, mkg, Vis
Cray (1) - Pippy
Vis (1) - genny
Mel () -
mayo (1) - Cray

10/15
yeet close in ~27 hours

 

[Aprilthearab]

Because it seemed like oh look guys I’m def not a wolf because I’m asking the wolves on thread not to kill me, and I’m then still not a wolf when I’m not killed because I asked.

I was directly responding to WZ saying her sus of me is justified because she knows she is a villager, and I’m saying I know I am a villager. Not sure how that’s weird or out of context.

But how do you know she's a villager and how does she know you're a villager?

w/v sus sounds very much like v/v sus, not always easy to tell the difference unless the reasoning is off, and even then villagers can have off reasoning and wolves can have solid reasoning

 

[WildZoo]

Because it seemed like oh look guys I’m def not a wolf because I’m asking the wolves on thread not to kill me, and I’m then still not a wolf when I’m not killed because I asked.

I was directly responding to WZ saying her sus of me is justified because she knows she is a villager, and I’m saying I know I am a villager. Not sure how that’s weird or out of context.

Lol ok. That was in no way a strategic post and was just a natural progression of me talking about not pulling punches.

I'd wager you see comments like that come from villagers close to 100% of the time. In theory it's a decent-ish post for a wolf to make, in practice it just doesn't occur to them to do it. Wish AM was playing so I could confirm the stats.

 

[Zenge142]

He did mention bread though

Later on sure. Started with a naked vote on the 3rd post of the thread with no prior salt or joke. Mentioned bread later I guess but the explanation to me later wasn’t “it was a joke vote because of bread’s height”.

I'm going to vote her out if she's a wolf. Training is useless if she has plot armor.

His explanation to you felt like a joke, to justify the vote. His explanation to me felt less like he was making a joke vote but it also didn’t really make sense to me.

 

[Zenge142]

Oh I forgot about his explanation. Huh

I'll keep that in mind but I'm not set on yeeting him over that, I understand the point he made and I'll wait to see what else he says

Do you understand the point he made? What did you understand about it?

 

[PippyPony]

I don’t really get it. Why would a wolf who was genuinely confused about somethong they want to know for choosing a NK ask it in thread instead of in wolfchat?

@Aprilthearab and reinforced by posts like this.

I agree Vis, and had the same thought. No reason for Bob's question to even hit the thread if he were a wolf, because in that scenario it would be a factor in kill selection & that's what wolf chat is for.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Later on sure. Started with a naked vote on the 3rd post of the thread with no prior salt or joke. Mentioned bread later I guess but the explanation to me later wasn’t “it was a joke vote because of bread’s height”.


His explanation to you felt like a joke, to justify the vote. His explanation to me felt less like he was making a joke vote but it also didn’t really make sense to me.

That's fair, I've definitely done that as a wolf where I put down an early D1 vote, get sussed over the reasoning, so I try out a different reasoning (I don't recommend this, doesn't work well)

And I also saw Mayo put down a semi-joke semi-serious vote in the speed game as a wolf so that does worry me

 

[Aprilthearab]

Do you understand the point he made? What did you understand about it?

About putting pressure on Dubz for practice. That part makes sense given the context of the game and also how early it is D1

And the joke vote for Bread's height also doesn't phase me on its own

But the fact that he used both wigs me out as I explained above

 

[Aprilthearab]

I might be gone for a bit tonight, so for now I'll

Yeet Mayo

 

[Viscernable]

He did mention bread though

That was after his vote. I assumed his vote was because you’re the rep. I can see why it might ping someone a bit, but I don’t think it’s very AI.

 

[PippyPony]

I'd wager you see comments like that come from villagers close to 100% of the time. In theory it's a decent-ish post for a wolf to make, in practice it just doesn't occur to them to do it. Wish AM was playing so I could confirm the stats.

I think a wolf could make that type of post... but I find it a bit harder to believe they'd say "I don't expect any pulled punches" & then ruin it immediately by saying "but please pull punches a teeny bit" in the same post lol.

That combo comes off as a villager who made a "come at me bro" comment and then 30 seconds realized Mel was in the game and he might do exactly what you asked for 😂

 

[Viscernable]

Unyeet bread

don’t have a serious vote yet but I don’t like that we’re 10 hours in and a joke vote has 3/10 votes on it

 

[sunshinefl]

I don’t really get it. Why would a wolf who was genuinely confused about somethong they want to know for choosing a NK ask it in thread instead of in wolfchat?

So that people would literally ask this question and use this reasoning.

 

[WildZoo]

then 30 seconds realized Mel was in the game and he might do exactly what you asked for 😂

He would though

 

[Viscernable]

Lol ok. That was in no way a strategic post and was just a natural progression of me talking about not pulling punches.

I'd wager you see comments like that come from villagers close to 100% of the time. In theory it's a decent-ish post for a wolf to make, in practice it just doesn't occur to them to do it. Wish AM was playing so I could confirm the stats.

I disagree a bit; I don’t think it’s a good post for a wolf to make. To me, looks like either a very bad wolf post or a careless village joke, so I’d be sus of a new player making it but I assume that an experienced wolf wouldn’t make it. It looks calls suspicion to the poster (addressing posts to wolves almost always gets people side-eyed) for very little strategic payoff (I don’t think anyone would buy “hey guys the reason I’m still alive is because I asked the wolves to spare me!”)

 

[WildZoo]

I disagree a bit; I don’t think it’s a good post for a wolf to make. To me, looks like either a very bad wolf post or a careless village joke, so I’d be sus of a new player making it but I assume that an experienced wolf wouldn’t make it. It looks calls suspicion to the poster (addressing posts to wolves almost always gets people side-eyed) for very little strategic payoff (I don’t think anyone would buy “hey guys the reason I’m still alive is because I asked the wolves to spare me!”)

Well I said decent-ish 😛

 

[Crayola227]

Did you even read mayo's response to zenge?

No but Zenge made a good case the vote looked weird

 

[PippyPony]

So that people would literally ask this question and use this reasoning.

Meh. That would imply a level of premeditated manipulation that seems out of range for a short D1 comment imo.

 

[Crayola227]

Oh I forgot about his explanation. Huh

I'll keep that in mind but I'm not set on yeeting him over that, I understand the point he made and I'll wait to see what else he says

Yeah clearly his explanation didn't make a great impression to me either

 

[sunshinefl]

Meh. That would imply a level of premeditated manipulation that seems out of range for a short D1 comment imo.

I would definitely do, and have done, something like that as a wolf.

 

[Viscernable]

So that people would literally ask this question and use this reasoning.

Idk there’s too many jumps there for me to think that’s what’s going on. Requires wolves to assume a LOT about how village will interpret a simple “who is the rep”.

 

[PippyPony]

He would though

I know. That's why I said it lol.

 

[Crayola227]

I don’t really get it. Why would a wolf who was genuinely confused about somethong they want to know for choosing a NK ask it in thread instead of in wolfchat?

Noob wolves do this all the time though. They forget to ask the pack or the pack isn't as responsive as open thread.

Also noob wolves will still ask seemingly NAI questions on thread so they have something to say, it can be difficult for them to generate content and they can hope they look uninformed.

Maybe he isn't in wolf chat but is still planning a NK.

 

[Crayola227]

Lol ok. That was in no way a strategic post and was just a natural progression of me talking about not pulling punches.

I'd wager you see comments like that come from villagers close to 100% of the time. In theory it's a decent-ish post for a wolf to make, in practice it just doesn't occur to them to do it. Wish AM was playing so I could confirm the stats.

I'm pretty sure in Bioshock or a speed game I made some comment about not wanting wolves to kill me. I see what you're saying, but at best it's NAI at worst it smells kinda wolfy to me.

 

[PippyPony]

Not sure why people are trying to push a Bob vs Dubz yeet when I have already offered myself as tribute

 

[Crayola227]

I disagree a bit; I don’t think it’s a good post for a wolf to make. To me, looks like either a very bad wolf post or a careless village joke, so I’d be sus of a new player making it but I assume that an experienced wolf wouldn’t make it. It looks calls suspicion to the poster (addressing posts to wolves almost always gets people side-eyed) for very little strategic payoff (I don’t think anyone would buy “hey guys the reason I’m still alive is because I asked the wolves to spare me!”)

Lol what's funny is wolves will def leave ppl alive if this kinda sus can fall on them

 

[Crayola227]

Not sure why people are trying to push a Bob vs Dubz yeet when I have already offered myself as tribute

Genny made us wary of anyone *wanting* to be yeeted. It's an open set up or I would think you were a bomb or something and be even more leery of your vote.

 

[PippyPony]

Genny made us wary of anyone *wanting* to be yeeted. It's an open set up or I would think you were a bomb or something and be even more leery of your vote.

Yeah but it is an open set up, so...

 

[sunshinefl]

Not sure why people are trying to push a Bob vs Dubz yeet when I have already offered myself as tribute

Well if you’re village in more interested in finding a wolf.

 

[sunshinefl]

Yeah but it is an open set up, so...

Right but still would rather yeet a wolf. It’s a numbers game.

 

[PippyPony]

Well if you’re village in more interested in finding a wolf.

What gives you the impression I'm town?

 

[PippyPony]

Right but still would rather yeet a wolf. It’s a numbers game.

....and there it is again...

 

[PippyPony]

More specifically, I don't see why we're assuming Bob -- who has not been a wolf before as far as I know -- has already received the Master Manipulator pup scout badge... but on the same page, those same people are moving me village/refusing to yeet me "vs a wolf" merely because I asked for it.

No offense Bob.

 

[sunshinefl]

What gives you the impression I'm town?

I said IF

 

[PippyPony]

I said IF

Well but then you said you'd "still rather yeet a wolf."

There's an underlying implication there.

 

[sunshinefl]

More specifically, I don't see why we're assuming Bob -- who has not been a wolf before as far as I know -- has already received the Master Manipulator pup scout badge... but on the same page, those same people are moving me village/refusing to yeet me "vs a wolf" merely because I asked for it.

No offense Bob.

Well as far as I can see, different people are saying that it would be a dumb noob wolf thing to do (not me) and others are saying it would be a regular wolf strategy (me) but now you’re saying it’s too big brain for him.

 

[sunshinefl]

Well but then you said you'd "still rather yeet a wolf."

There's an underlying implication there.

Meaning I’m going to look for a wolf. Not yeet someone because they asked for it. Could end up being you if you’re wolfy.

 

[PippyPony]

but now you’re saying it’s too big brain for him.

I've been saying that the whole time, which is why I said "no offense"

 

[Viscernable]

Yeah but it is an open set up, so...

Well then, if it’s an open setup, then that’s alright