Henry Stickmin - Game Thread

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Hell if I know. Like I said, I wanted to throw him into the neutrals but we know there’s 3 total and if I had to choose, this pinged me.

The thing about it too, is that he placed it at the same time I was unyeeting Mayo. Which means if Pippy, Dubz, and April are all right, and the Zenge/Mayo interactions were v/v, then Bread was essentially creating a tie between two villagers.
But if they are not then I was just trying to put my vote down while I could and vote for the person that was giving me slightly more wolf vibes. I am normally bad at picking things out of day 1 posts. But I am not sure how I feel about you tearing into this quite so much.
 
Okay I went back to the start of day 2 and to the alley post I responded to, and I still don’t see any interaction before/around then between alley and zenge that you are asking me about @Viscernable
So both times you wolfed, we were in wolfchat together. I saw how you interacted on thread vs in wolf chat. I also saw why you got sussed quickly in bioshock, and you came on too strong and tried to control the threadstate. A lot of the leaps of logic you made were not related to the gamestate, and it was almost like you were jumping to conclusions and trying too hard to push the narrative that you wanted to push. I'm seeing some of that here as well. I know you were mafia in the FTFWIA game as well, and you almost got sussed out as scum there too before you turned into a treestump. Maybe it's just because I have wolfed with you several times now, but when point A doesn't lead to point B, and intead jumps all the way to point D, I read it as wolfy.

Currently, the people I'm feeling neutral on are Cray, Sunny, Dubz, and Bread.

My POE is Zenge, Mel, MKG, Sporty

everyone else I am leaning village at this point.

I know I have already not met the post minimum once, but I will fail my finals if I don't do some studying, so I will hop back on later.

I think I've made my suspicions pretty obvious and already made it clear in my previous posts why I am going to

###Yeet Zenge####

Are you? What specifically are you seeing? I’m curious what specific examples you can provide.
 
I don't quite know how to explain, and I wish Cyndia was here to back up how good she is at PR hunting as a wolf, and how in pack chat I kept saying "wow how did you catch so and so said/did that!" I bet @alleycat03 and @Zenge142 can back me up that repeatedly in pack chat I have said "OK guys, now we want to look for clues to PRs, but I'm not gonna catch any villager hints!" And the responsibility for actually figuring that out fell to them.

When I said the last part, saying I wonder who would have considered the PR hunting stuff and might have seen a soft claim, I mean who are wolves smart enough to see that stuff. It's not me. I can't list who is dumb this way like I am, as I can say who is decent at it. Mel, Pip, Alley, Zenge, from what I can tell have decent PR soft claim pick up skills. I was saying we should look at people like that because Cheezit made a decent point that Bob's kill might make sense as there might have been reasons they they he was a PR.

Bob was asking who was elected, and SOMEONE ELSE saw that and pointed it out saying "Why, you planning a NK wolfy?" And I piggybacked on that saying that maybe it wasn't a wolfy kill he was trying to plan. So I would hardly give myself credit for picking up a soft *that didn't already have attention*.

I don't catch on *when villagers are hinting on open thread* their roles.

If you are begging for death, and I conclude you must either be a wolf sowing WIFOM, or a villager who doesn't have a PR, I don't see that the same as them making a purposeful soft claim and me catching onto that.

Based off of my limited experience wolfing with Cray in a speed game, I'm going to back her up here. She missed an important soft reveal and talked in wolf chat about how she often misses them.

It doesn't clear her, but I doubt she picked up on Bob's possible soft.
 
but we know that there aren't any in this game. this sounds like saying something just to get everyone to feel like you're contributing, and makes me squint in your general direction.

About that...

Maybe Bob and i are v/v, and you and Zenge are the wolves.

Here's a thought
 
Yeet cray

I didn't like how she was talking about wolf kill choice strategy yesterday, especially in light of the fact that I'm still alive this morning
My first thought was why the heck would Cray explain her wolf kill choice strategy and then do exactly that if she is woof. But now thinking about it more, Cray would absolutely throw that wifom out there. I remember her writing a whole paragraph dissing her own night kill choice in Bioshock so I don't think this is out of her wolf range at all
 
My first thought was why the heck would Cray explain her wolf kill choice strategy and then do exactly that if she is woof. But now thinking about it more, Cray would absolutely throw that wifom out there. I remember her writing a whole paragraph dissing her own night kill choice in Bioshock so I don't think this is out of her wolf range at all
Oh, it's absolutely in my wolf range. But it's also in my village range as well.
 
So both times you wolfed, we were in wolfchat together. I saw how you interacted on thread vs in wolf chat. I also saw why you got sussed quickly in bioshock, and you came on too strong and tried to control the threadstate. A lot of the leaps of logic you made were not related to the gamestate, and it was almost like you were jumping to conclusions and trying too hard to push the narrative that you wanted to push. I'm seeing some of that here as well. I know you were mafia in the FTFWIA game as well, and you almost got sussed out as scum there too before you turned into a treestump. Maybe it's just because I have wolfed with you several times now, but when point A doesn't lead to point B, and intead jumps all the way to point D, I read it as wolfy.
Bioshock was the first game Zenge wolfed, right? I remember D1 Bioshock wolf!Zenge being extremely hedgy and apologetic which is why I wolf read him so strong so early, so I'm not sure where you got the coming on strong to control the threadstate feel. Maybe you're talking about how retaliatory he was when a couple people pushed his yeet?
 
I think Sunshine, Mel, and Dubz should be on the board today. I feel like there is probably a wolf somewhere in that group of 3 based on their posts over the last day and a half.
Do you think any of those three are wolfier than Cray? Asking because I know you have your vote on Cray (at least at the point of catch-up I'm at right now)
 
Bob started reading frustrated villager as the votes piled up. I still wanted bread to show up and answer my question from yesterday (he made a comment about Mayo v Zenge very early that’s didn’t sit well with me), so I went there. It was annoying he didn’t show up so I flipped to Genny because I didn’t want bob lynched after this line:
I and others had mentioned several times that I was going to be away until right around yeet close. I was feeling up until that point that was the most solid thing to act on and at least put my vote down before close because I was not sure what time I would end up arriving at home and if I would have even been up to reading(Was on the road for around 10ish hours)
 
You say this as if you aren't the #2 poster in the game lol
And I feel like I'm starting to drown out useful conversation :sorry:

The same 2-3 people keep liking my posts +/- responding to me, which means that the rest of the village has probably tuned me out while the wolves are pumped I'm running their game on autopilot.
 
I think Sunshine, Mel, and Dubz should be on the board today. I feel like there is probably a wolf somewhere in that group of 3 based on their posts over the last day and a half.
Not sure how I feel about targeting Dubz because I am not sure when she is driving back home but will definitely start looking into her after looking at Sunshine and Mel. So far Mel has not really pinged me though but rereads always help.
 
Based off of my limited experience wolfing with Cray in a speed game, I'm going to back her up here. She missed an important soft reveal and talked in wolf chat about how she often misses them.

It doesn't clear her, but I doubt she picked up on Bob's possible soft.
It definitely doesn't clear her considering if she's wolf she has a whole pack to help pick up on softs
 
Seems fine so far: Vis, Pippy, Zenge

I'm crap at reading: Bread, Mel, Alley (wolfing with Bread and Alley last game does not change the fact that I literally have never correctly read them)

Where the heck are they, I'm concerned: mkg, sporty, Dubz (Dubz has been here more than the other two I believe but I am used to her being more involved so it feels weird)

Keeping an eye on: Mayo, Sun, Cray

I'd like to yeet mkg for really weird feels the few times she's popped in, but I'd rather not focus my attention on someone who might get mod killed. If she shows up again and meets minimum and still sounds weird, it's likely I'll switch my vote to there.

Unfortunately I don't have any particularly howly feels amongst the others right now but I need to crash for the night, so until tomorrow,

Yeet Cray

Didn't like the lone vote yesterday on someone who's an easy yeet when I suspect there were three villagers on the board. Easy to keep her hands clean of villager blood. The way she defended the whole Pippy wanting to die/not getting NKed thing felt like a lot of intentional wifom.
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray (1) - April
Zenge (1) - alley
sunshine (1) - Pippy

4/13
yeet close in ~21 hours
 
Seems fine so far: Vis, Pippy, Zenge

I'm crap at reading: Bread, Mel, Alley (wolfing with Bread and Alley last game does not change the fact that I literally have never correctly read them)

Where the heck are they, I'm concerned: mkg, sporty, Dubz (Dubz has been here more than the other two I believe but I am used to her being more involved so it feels weird)

Keeping an eye on: Mayo, Sun, Cray

I'd like to yeet mkg for really weird feels the few times she's popped in, but I'd rather not focus my attention on someone who might get mod killed. If she shows up again and meets minimum and still sounds weird, it's likely I'll switch my vote to there.

Unfortunately I don't have any particularly howly feels amongst the others right now but I need to crash for the night, so until tomorrow,

Yeet Cray

Didn't like the lone vote yesterday on someone who's an easy yeet when I suspect there were three villagers on the board. Easy to keep her hands clean of villager blood. The way she defended the whole Pippy wanting to die/not getting NKed thing felt like a lot of intentional wifom.
Hmm. I don't really like this post...
The vote switching didn't feel wolfy to me, and the only reason cray ended up alone on bread is that other peoplepved to genny very quickly at the end. It wasn't like she went off and voted off-wagon, he was still a contender when she voted there.
 
I’m caught between three opposing thoughts :dead:

1. I’m sketched out that cray just claimed she never picks up on PR hints (referring to wolves apparently having interpreted Bob’s comments as a soft claim. I also didn’t pick up on it but in hindsight it was probably pretty obvious if you were coming at things in even a remotely role-solving kind of mindset) when she read you as a vanillager for your kill request. I know they’re not exactly the same thing, but both use similar perceptive skills and demand a PR hunting mindset. This feels like W/V cray/pippy.

2. The last couple paragraphs feel like pippy is simultaneously setting up an excuse for not getting NKed in the future and setting cray up for suspicion based on it. This feels like V/W cray/pippy

3. overall cray and pippy have both felt pretty villagey
I think reasoning out that on thread behavior is more likely to come from a vanilla than a PR mindset is very different from catching a possible soft in one line at the end of a post. It's one thing to be able to figure stuff out from behavior, reading between the lines of actual hints is an entirely different skillset. Big picture vs detail kind of thing.
 
Ok so that last post from alley and zenge's response both read kind of weird to me. Maybe I'm just tired. The phrasing just seems...odd. Almost formal? Hmm. I'll come back to that.
 
Not sure how I feel about targeting Dubz because I am not sure when she is driving back home but will definitely start looking into her after looking at Sunshine and Mel. So far Mel has not really pinged me though but rereads always help.
I'm here til Thursday and the days are 36 hours so I'm not really worried. If people want pressure on me, have at it.

Are you actually suspicious of the me/sunshine/mel, or just following pippy's POE? How are you feeling about zenge today?
 
[ Multiple Alley/Zenge Quotes]
I think that zenge stretches logic NAI, so I don’t necessarily agree with Alley here.

her POE is pretty good

not a slam dunk case she gives on zenge (like enough to vote with her), but enough that her vote feels justified.
About that...



Here's a thought
In your quoted posted, When Genny said “maybe bob and I are v/v, and you and zenge are the wolves” who was the *you*?
Seems fine so far: Vis, Pippy, Zenge

I'm crap at reading: Bread, Mel, Alley (wolfing with Bread and Alley last game does not change the fact that I literally have never correctly read them)

Where the heck are they, I'm concerned: mkg, sporty, Dubz (Dubz has been here more than the other two I believe but I am used to her being more involved so it feels weird)

Keeping an eye on: Mayo, Sun, Cray

I'd like to yeet mkg for really weird feels the few times she's popped in, but I'd rather not focus my attention on someone who might get mod killed. If she shows up again and meets minimum and still sounds weird, it's likely I'll switch my vote to there.

Unfortunately I don't have any particularly howly feels amongst the others right now but I need to crash for the night, so until tomorrow,

Yeet Cray

Didn't like the lone vote yesterday on someone who's an easy yeet when I suspect there were three villagers on the board. Easy to keep her hands clean of villager blood. The way she defended the whole Pippy wanting to die/not getting NKed thing felt like a lot of intentional wifom.
This is kind of an odd reads list, and doesn’t make me feel any better about april
Hmm. I don't really like this post...
The vote switching didn't feel wolfy to me, and the only reason cray ended up alone on bread is that other peoplepved to genny very quickly at the end. It wasn't like she went off and voted off-wagon, he was still a contender when she voted there.
I think reasoning out that on thread behavior is more likely to come from a vanilla than a PR mindset is very different from catching a possible soft in one line at the end of a post. It's one thing to be able to figure stuff out from behavior, reading between the lines of actual hints is an entirely different skillset. Big picture vs detail kind of thing.
I currently have cray as village lean and WZ as sus, but I’m noting the defense of cray here twice in a row. Can’t reach any conclusions about that now, but could matter later. Could still be w/w v/v or v/w
 
yeet April

That cray read really rubbed me the wrong way. I am also itching a bit to vote for Mel...but it's really just because picking up on a possible soft, killing someone based on it, and then talking on thread like it couldn't possibly have been missed seems like 100% of a wolf!Mel move.
 
Because I could read the thread and reason out what you and sporty were doing. I wasn’t sure what Mayo was doing with his vote that’s why I singled him out.

If it was a joke it didn’t come with anything the signify that. If it was salt, then I’m not sure what Mayo has to be salty about regarding Dubz and recent games. So it seemed like a real vote, which seems like a weird choice and weird thing to do so early on, and I didn’t understand it.
In this Pip/Zenge exchange, feels like Pip is w and Zenge is v.
 
I dunno, 3 pages in and your tone already sounds wicked different to me than last game 🤷🏼‍♀️

You're welcome to dispute my assessment but I'm not sure why you'd want to lol

And I know no one asked, but I don't think Vis is a wolf either
Any updates on these reads?
 
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