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wallydo said:
I can't say anything for shelter or kar. I don't think letting shelter slip through the cracks any longer is doing us any favors either (even though I'm sending them a very large internet hug right now). But Killer IS the reason we got our first wolf. Unless they've been converted, wouldn't that be strange if a wolf helped us get a wolf?
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My feelings about killer are because she died but then didn't...feel like maybe something happened in the process? idk
 
Doctor-S said:
1. On D6 (Thursday), @wallydo told everyone she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2888]

2. On D6 (Thursday), @LyraGardenia told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2890]

3. On D6 (Thursday), @mmmdreamerz told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2892]

So, if the above statements are all true statements, it means that someone visited wallydo, Lyra and mmm yesterday (N6); and offered to read their fortunes, using some type of cards, but ran away instead, and without telling them anything. Why would someone want to read their (wally, Lyra, mmm) fortunes?

If there is one villager (with a fortune-telling power or a deck of fortune cards),I am guessing that this person would be able to confirm that she or he did, in fact, visit wally, and Lyra, and mmm yesterday.

In other words, she or he would be able to confirm that wally, Lyra, and mm are being truthful … or they would be able to state which one of the them (wally, Lyra, mmm) is not being truthful.

Anyone have any comments about this?

[By the way, is everyone left in this game a "she" or is that not correct? I don't want to offend anyone.]
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Mine wasn't yesterday...I'd have to go back and look to see what day it was...

and yes, a she 🙂
 
Doctor-S said:
1. On D6 (Thursday), @wallydo told everyone she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2888]

2. On D6 (Thursday), @LyraGardenia told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2890]

3. On D6 (Thursday), @mmmdreamerz told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2892]

So, if the above statements are all true statements, it means that someone visited wallydo, Lyra and mmm yesterday (N6); and offered to read their fortunes, using some type of cards, but ran away instead, and without telling them anything. Why would someone want to read their (wally, Lyra, mmm) fortunes?

If there is one villager (with a fortune-telling power or a deck of fortune cards),I am guessing that this person would be able to confirm that she or he did, in fact, visit wally, and Lyra, and mmm yesterday.

In other words, she or he would be able to confirm that wally, Lyra, and mm are being truthful … or they would be able to state which one of the them (wally, Lyra, mmm) is not being truthful.

Anyone have any comments about this?

[By the way, is everyone left in this game a "she" or is that not correct? I don't want to offend anyone.]
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It was Monday night/early Tuesday morning I was visited by the fortune teller, not last night.
 
LyraGardenia said:
Hmm, interesting that no one was killed last night. Maybe we have a protector that successfully protected whoever the wolves wanted to kill? Just a guess.

So I'm still pretty confident that Doc S, kitten and killerleaf are villagers. I'm also pretty sure serher and sheltermed are after yesterday, and kitten is vouching for SAR. I know I'm a villager, so that leaves mmmdreamz, wally, Karabiner and TrashPanda that I'm not sure about. I need to go back and look over their posts.
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Wouldn't that person have come forward saying that they were successfully protected? It was my understanding that the person protected knows when that happens.
 
I have a weird feeling the fortune telling is happening by a wolf... but just a guess
 
[My Updated Post]

1. Today (D7), @wallydo told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2888]

2. Today (D7), @LyraGardenia told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2890]

3. Today (D7), @mmmdreamerz told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2892]

4. Today (D7), @SARdoghandler told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2915]

So, if the above statements are all true statements, it means that someone visited wallydo, Lyra, mmm and/or SAR); and offered to read their fortunes, using some type of cards, but ran away instead, and without telling them anything. Why would someone want to read their (wally, Lyra, mmm, SAR) fortunes?

If there is one villager (with a fortune-telling power or a deck of fortune cards),I am guessing that this person would be able to confirm that she or he did, in fact, visit wally, and Lyra, mmm and/or mmm SAR.

In other words, she or he would be able to confirm that wally, Lyra, mmm, and/or SAR are being truthful … or they would be able to state which one of the them (wally, Lyra, mmm) is not being truthful.

Anyone have any comments about this?

[By the way, is everyone left in this game a "she" or is that not correct? I don't want to offend anyone.]
 
sheltermed said:
Wouldn't that person have come forward saying that they were successfully protected? It was my understanding that the person protected knows when that happens.
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Maybe, I don't think we had heard from everyone yet when I posted that. And I still don't think we've heard from @TrashPanda today.

I really think we should get lynch voting started. I'm still leaning towards voting for either TPanda or Karabiner, does anyone have anything to sway me either way?
 
Doctor-S said:
On D6 (Thursday):

I noticed that KM asked serher the following question (see Post 2771):

KM: "are you (serher) also defending wallydo?"

So, I'm wondering if KM and serher are currently working together because KM wanted to know if serher was also defending wally?

Otherwise, I don't know "why" KM would ask serher that specific question.

@kittenmittens524 , can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

@serher, can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?
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I have no connection to km outside this thread. This was purely last minute scramble and not wanting to vote snowy.
 
serher said:
I have a weird feeling the fortune telling is happening by a wolf... but just a guess
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I think Dr. S might possibly be onto something though, about someone looking into the three of us to see if we are trustworthy. Perhaps, the person can get enough information to make that decision without reading all of the cards? So maybe it's a villager looking to see who they can trust. Since I was brought up for lynching right at the end of the night last night, maybe that is why I was chosen as next to read. I really don't know. I just don't know that the wolves have anything to gain by reading our fortunes since the wolves know who is a wolf/who isn't.
 
LyraGardenia said:
Maybe, I don't think we had heard from everyone yet when I posted that. And I still don't think we've heard from @TrashPanda today.

I really think we should get lynch voting started. I'm still leaning towards voting for either TPanda or Karabiner, does anyone have anything to sway me either way?
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I don't, but I need to put in a vote early since I may not be around before the deadline and I didn't manage to get a vote in last night, either!
 
Doctor-S said:
[My Updated Post]

1. Today (D7), @wallydo told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2888]

2. Today (D7), @LyraGardenia told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2890]

3. Today (D7), @mmmdreamerz told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2892]

4. Today (D7), @SARdoghandler told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone. [see Post #2915]

So, if the above statements are all true statements, it means that someone visited wallydo, Lyra, mmm and/or SAR); and offered to read their fortunes, using some type of cards, but ran away instead, and without telling them anything. Why would someone want to read their (wally, Lyra, mmm, SAR) fortunes?

If there is one villager (with a fortune-telling power or a deck of fortune cards),I am guessing that this person would be able to confirm that she or he did, in fact, visit wally, and Lyra, mmm and/or mmm SAR.

In other words, she or he would be able to confirm that wally, Lyra, mmm, and/or SAR are being truthful … or they would be able to state which one of the them (wally, Lyra, mmm) is not being truthful.

Anyone have any comments about this?

[By the way, is everyone left in this game a "she" or is that not correct? I don't want to offend anyone.]
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It could be a villager that is a seer or maybe someone with a seer item? I dont know if a villager would reveal if they were a seer or fortune teller, that would be a huge role reveal
 
mmmdreamerz said:
Does anyone have any specific into kar, shelter, or killer?

I feel like one of them will get my vote tonight...
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Let me what questions I can answer. Like I've said I don't have a PM ability and no one has PM'd with me so it's not surprising if no one has anything on me. If I need to I can give some info on my ability
 
LyraGardenia said:
Maybe, I don't think we had heard from everyone yet when I posted that. And I still don't think we've heard from @TrashPanda today.

I really think we should get lynch voting started. I'm still leaning towards voting for either TPanda or Karabiner, does anyone have anything to sway me either way?
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Lyra, I don't have anything to sway me NOT to vote for either. I was hoping TPanda would have joined in the thread by now, but they could be having the sort fo day I was having yesterday. Really not sure which direction to head though. Karabiner is at least around today and can defend herself.
 
wallydo said:
I think Dr. S might possibly be onto something though, about someone looking into the three of us to see if we are trustworthy. Perhaps, the person can get enough information to make that decision without reading all of the cards? So maybe it's a villager looking to see who they can trust. Since I was brought up for lynching right at the end of the night last night, maybe that is why I was chosen as next to read. I really don't know. I just don't know that the wolves have anything to gain by reading our fortunes since the wolves know who is a wolf/who isn't.
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I think that makes sense. It would make sense if it was a villager that's a seer or a fortune teller and they wouldn't come forward to say that they were doing it because that would immediately make them a target for the wolves, since they might be able to see who is a wolf too
 
Doctor-S said:
Yes, I agree with @kittenmittens524.

CORRECTION: KM asked serher the following question:

KM: "are you (serher) also suspicious of wallydo?"
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Right, which I asked because I was looking for someone to corroborate my suspicions since that was right before the waffle and some people had started to think that snow wasnt a wolf.
 
As I mentioned earlier, I'm traveling and have very limited access. I'm trying to keep up!

I did not vote for snowy yesterday, and snowy tracked me and believed I was a villager. She saw that another villager protected me and that I did not harm anyone. On phone so I can't link, but see posts from yesterday.
 
serher said:
I have thought kitten was a villager this entire time, but I would like to hear if anybody can personally vouch for kitten? For instance, if anyone has used a seer item on them? I have just been going off of kitten's initial defense this entire time, so I would like more evidence if possible.
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I can state that kitten and I have both reported being incapacitated by some type of paralyzing liquid.

So, if kitten is, in fact, telling the truth (i.e., KM was also incapacitated by paralyzing liquid), then I would be willing to believe that KM is a villager.
 
@serher also said "someone protected her (serher) last night." [see Post #2899]

This may be useful information because @mmmdreamerz defended serher and mmm did NOT want serher to be lynched yesterday (D6 Thursday).

It would be useful to know if mmm was the "someone" who protected serher or if it was someone else?

@serher: do you have anything to say about the above?
 
Doctor-S said:
@serher also said "someone protected her (serher) last night." [see Post #2899]

This may be useful information because @mmmdreamerz defended serher and mmm did NOT want serher to be lynched yesterday (D6 Thursday).

It would be useful to know if mmm was the "someone" who protected serher or if it was someone else?

@serher: do you have anything to say about the above?
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I think a lot of what you're asking is regarding pretty specific role reveals, which we've been trying to avoid by simply vouching for people until it's absolutely necessary that they reveal their role for us to be convinced otherwise.

If people are revealing their protecting roles, it could put them in danger, which we don't want right now. The only reason my role is common knowledge is because I needed to reveal it in order to avoid being lynched at the last minute. Unless its a total necessity, I think we should try and avoid it so people with important roles aren't killed overnight
 
Doctor-S said:
@serher also said "someone protected her (serher) last night." [see Post #2899]

This may be useful information because @mmmdreamerz defended serher and mmm did NOT want serher to be lynched yesterday (D6 Thursday).

It would be useful to know if mmm was the "someone" who protected serher or if it was someone else?

@serher: do you have anything to say about the above?
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The misquote of my post and asking for such specific role details makes me a little concerned
 
kittenmittens524 said:
It could be a villager that is a seer or maybe someone with a seer item? I dont know if a villager would reveal if they were a seer or fortune teller, that would be a huge role reveal
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Km, I understood and I agree with you.
 
TrashPanda said:
As I mentioned earlier, I'm traveling and have very limited access. I'm trying to keep up!

I did not vote for snowy yesterday, and snowy tracked me and believed I was a villager. She saw that another villager protected me and that I did not harm anyone. On phone so I can't link, but see posts from yesterday.
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Okay, with that I guess I'll get things started, but I might waffle.

Lynch Karabiner
 
LyraGardenia said:
Okay, with that I guess I'll get things started, but I might waffle.

Lynch Karabiner
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Okay thank god we got this started haha can you give your reasons why? You might have mentioned it earlier but I've noticed its good to try and keep thoughts all in one place especially since there were players suspicious of you yesterday and this morning
 
serher said:
It's important to note again that I really only started questioning SAR when SAR started questioning me. So being concerned about me simply for questioning SAR is not a very strong argument in my opinion.

If this makes a difference... someone protected me last night. Which I thought was interesting because I also thought I was going to get killed.
But no one attacked me so it didn't really matter. I wanted to share because someone thought I was worth keeping around. I am worried about the possibility of a conversion as well since from what has been posted it sounds like no one was attacked at all.
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Oh, this is important. I had asked earlier if the person who is being protected would know.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
The misquote of my post and asking for such specific role details makes me a little concerned
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I understand and appreciate your frustration.

At this time, I am trying to be as specific as possible (e.g., by listing Days and the names of posters) because it is way too challenging to read all of these posts, without being specific. At times, I do not even know who is responding to who/whom - especially when so many people are in a lightning-paced frenzy at the at lynch time. Just saying.
 
LyraGardenia said:
Okay, with that I guess I'll get things started, but I might waffle.

Lynch Karabiner
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I might play devil's advocate here because reasons, and also waffle later on if I'm able to come back to the threat.

lynch TrashPanda
 
sheltermed said:
I might play devil's advocate here because reasons, and also waffle later on if I'm able to come back to the threat.

lynch TrashPanda
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Are you able to elaborate if your reasons for playing devils advocate has to do with lyra or kbean?
 
At this point I believe that serher, km, drS, lyra, and wally are probably villagers.

Km vouched for SAR.

Panda has said some things I know to be true.

Shelter hasn't said anything that makes me feel really confident, but what she has said hasn't put me in any hurry to lynch her.

Killerleaf was a good guy at some point, at the very least...

At this point, I guess I'm also going with

lynch karabiner

feel free to change my mind...
 
Doctor-S said:
@serher also said "someone protected her (serher) last night." [see Post #2899]

This may be useful information because @mmmdreamerz defended serher and mmm did NOT want serher to be lynched yesterday (D6 Thursday).

It would be useful to know if mmm was the "someone" who protected serher or if it was someone else?

@serher: do you have anything to say about the above?
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kittenmittens524 said:
I think a lot of what you're asking is regarding pretty specific role reveals, which we've been trying to avoid by simply vouching for people until it's absolutely necessary that they reveal their role for us to be convinced otherwise.

If people are revealing their protecting roles, it could put them in danger, which we don't want right now. The only reason my role is common knowledge is because I needed to reveal it in order to avoid being lynched at the last minute. Unless its a total necessity, I think we should try and avoid it so people with important roles aren't killed overnight
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I understand why DrS asked this, and I also understand KM's concern. At this time I don't know who protected me. It's important to note that it might have been from a protection item, and not necessarily someone's role. So I don't think DrS was intentionally asking someone to reveal they are a protector.
 
Ok, I can’t PM with anyone and no one has PM’d with me which may be why no one has a strong opinion about me. I try to post my thoughts but even in real life I am quiet, succinct, and observant which translates into fewer posts and sometimes sitting back. Because I can’t PM with anyone, I get what information I have from the write-ups and discussion so I look over them carefully. Although I might be guilty of over analyzing and reaching for something that isn’t there.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
Okay thank god we got this started haha can you give your reasons why? You might have mentioned it earlier but I've noticed its good to try and keep thoughts all in one place especially since there were players suspicious of you yesterday and this morning
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It was pretty much process of elimination. I think Doc S is a villager since BoB voted to lynch her twice, I believe killerleaf is still a villager since she outed BoB, I think kmitz is telling the truth about her role, kmitz defended SAR (if I remember correctly), mdreamz and wally's stories about the fortune teller match up with mine (may not necessarily mean they're villagers, but IDK), snowy defended TPanda yesterday, I believe serher and sheltermed that they're important villagers... so that leaves Karabiner. But again, I might change my mind.
 
From the beginning I tried to imply my understanding of roles if I knew them so that I would not be outing anyone and making them a target to the wolves (#293). This has probably led me to hold my own role information pretty tight. I believed DrS early on based on what I understood of her role although not always her thinking (#296). When I thought we were thinking wrong about redirection, I mentioned it (#964) and checked with my mentor (#1206). I also relayed information about chaos based on my interpretation of the write-up and what my mentor told me (#1348). I tried to post my interpretation of write-ups in case there were clues which were sometimes missed by others (#1206). I pointed out that villagers despite being confusing are worth keeping around for numbers (#1791).
 
LyraGardenia said:
It was pretty much process of elimination. I think Doc S is a villager since BoB voted to lynch her twice, I believe killerleaf is still a villager since she outed BoB, I think kmitz is telling the truth about her role, kmitz defended SAR (if I remember correctly), mdreamz and wally's stories about the fortune teller match up with mine (may not necessarily mean they're villagers, but IDK), snowy defended TPanda yesterday, I believe serher and sheltermed that they're important villagers... so that leaves Karabiner. But again, I might change my mind.
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Why do you believe sheltermed? It's not that I don't, it's just that she's said so little I have no way of knowing.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
What do you think happened?
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I don't know. We had a feeling they were a villager and did lead us to our first victory, but if no one was attacked last night, maybe a conversion happened with them? Since they were already brought back from the dead. I truly don't know but they haven't made much of a peep today.

I'm leaning towards killerleaf or shelter.
 
wallydo said:
I don't know. We had a feeling they were a villager and did lead us to our first victory, but if no one was attacked last night, maybe a conversion happened with them? Since they were already brought back from the dead. I truly don't know but they haven't made much of a peep today.

I'm leaning towards killerleaf or shelter.
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I could see this happening...
 
wallydo said:
I don't know. We had a feeling they were a villager and did lead us to our first victory, but if no one was attacked last night, maybe a conversion happened with them? Since they were already brought back from the dead. I truly don't know but they haven't made much of a peep today.

I'm leaning towards killerleaf or shelter.
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I was gonna point that out, but more in the sense that if you're brought back, you can be brought back as a villager, a wolf or as a chaos character. Though it would be a risky move, the wolves just need one wolf to survive to win right? So maybe they thought when killer came back as a wolf, if she gave up a wolf that she would be protected for the rest of the game because we would assume that she's a villager. Cause killer has been really quiet since that wolf reveal..
 
At this moment:

I am inclined to believe the following people are villagers (and I am also using a process of elimination):

1. wallydo (because wally was, in fact, the first person who stated that she was, in fact, visited by a fortune teller at night).

2. Lyra (because Lyra was the second person who stated that she was visited by a fortune teller at night).

3. mmm (because mmm was the third person who stated that she was visited by a fortune teller at night).

4. SAR (although SAR did not disclose that SAR was visited by a fortune teller at night, SAR was the fourth person who reported the same "fortune-telling night visit" and her story matches the "fortune-telling-at-night" stories already reported by wally, Lyra, and mmm).

5. serher (because serher was defended by Lyra yesterday ans if I believe Lyra, then I am inclined to believe that serher is a villager because Lyra repeatedly defended serher from being lynched on D6).

6. TrashPanda [because mmm has defended TP. (See Post #2958). At this time, I am trying to believe mmm.]

7. Kittenmittens (KM also reported the same paralyzing liquid incident that I reported. So, since KM's story matches my own story; and since KM adamently defended SAR on D6, I am inclined to believe KM at this moment, absent any evidence to the contrary).

However ...

1. I am unsure about @killerleaf at this moment. Although kl outed BOB (Wolf 1), is it possible that kl changed into a wolf or something else (another chaos thing)?

2. I am also unsure about @sheltermed (although we all know that sheltermed is going through a very distressful time right now due to her missing dog. I think it's safe to say that everyone here is feeling badly for sheltermed at this time).
 
Ok, I am willing to waffle if KL comes in with a great defense. But you guys thinking I'm not totally crazy in that thought is part of why I'm gonna go ahead and...

Lynch killerleaf

We just hit the road to go to my SO's grandmas house so I will be in and out, but wanted to get a vote in.
 
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