Ladies and Gentlemen... a Noob WW Game Thread!

[mmmdreamerz]

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I have more a feeling. I can't completely vouch for SAR and I am starting to have my doubts. Like with the write-ups I may have over analyzed what I was reading

Oh well this changes things for me...can anyone solidly vouch for SAR?

 

[deleted806434]

serher, pardon me ... and you're correct: I saw that you changed your vote at the last minute to lynch SAR because you wanted MORE information from kittenmittens about SAR.

So, based on kittenmittens' statements alone, serher thought that SAR is a villager (and not a wolf).

@kittenmittens524: why are you so convinced that SAR is a villager (and not a wolf)? KM will also need to convince me, because I still believe that SAR has been acting wolfish for a while.

I figured I would let kitten explain more today, since you guys were trusting mmm about me yesterday for similar reasons (they both claim to have info). It's not that I necessarily even still think SAR is a villager. I just wanted more information before making a mistake. Which is why lynch votes will be starting much earlier today

 

[deleted806434]

Agreed. I need to know if anyone has near 100% certainty that SAR is a villager. Because if not I'm thinking a made a mistake yesterday...

 

[kittenmittens524]

Agreed. I need to know if anyone has near 100% certainty that SAR is a villager. Because if not I'm thinking a made a mistake yesterday...

I am 100% certain that SAR is a villager and I am 100% certain of her role. I'm sorry but that's pretty much all I can say about my knowledge of her, because her role/ability is valuable and should not be revealed.

 

[kittenmittens524]

I agree that it is okay for now that mdream and serher seem to be able to vouch for each other. I am more concerned that no one has been able to vouch for wallydo, and I think we should return to that concern that arose from last night

 

[Karabiner13]

stepping away to spend some time with my family. I'll try to check-in every now and then and will be back well before lynch deadline

 

[LyraGardenia]

Hmm, interesting that no one was killed last night. Maybe we have a protector that successfully protected whoever the wolves wanted to kill? Just a guess.

So I'm still pretty confident that Doc S, kitten and killerleaf are villagers. I'm also pretty sure serher and sheltermed are after yesterday, and kitten is vouching for SAR. I know I'm a villager, so that leaves mmmdreamz, wally, Karabiner and TrashPanda that I'm not sure about. I need to go back and look over their posts.

 

[kittenmittens524]

Hmm, interesting that no one was killed last night. Maybe we have a protector that successfully protected whoever the wolves wanted to kill? Just a guess.

So I'm still pretty confident that Doc S, kitten and killerleaf are villagers. I'm also pretty sure serher and sheltermed are after yesterday, and kitten is vouching for SAR. I know I'm a villager, so that leaves mmmdreamz, wally, Karabiner and TrashPanda that I'm not sure about. I need to go back and look over their posts.

I think that makes sense to me. Or maybe a protector item was sent to a person they were trying to kill?

I agree with you about DrS, killerleaf, sheltermed are villagers. I'm not totally sure about serher, just because mdream is the only one vouching for them. I'm vouching for SAR and I am more concerned about wally for the same reasons, I mentioned last night. If anyone is able to vouch for wally or has any thoughts on that I think we should talk about it again, since it came up very last minute(of course) last night

 

[wallydo]

Does this mean that the remaining wolves didn't attempt to kill someone? Can that happen?

Sent from my SM-G935V using SDN mobile

It means likely a convsersion happened, so that the wolves could convert someone whose ability they would like to own. This is my understanding from my mentor.

 

[wallydo]

Hmm, interesting that no one was killed last night. Maybe we have a protector that successfully protected whoever the wolves wanted to kill? Just a guess.

So I'm still pretty confident that Doc S, kitten and killerleaf are villagers. I'm also pretty sure serher and sheltermed are after yesterday, and kitten is vouching for SAR. I know I'm a villager, so that leaves mmmdreamz, wally, Karabiner and TrashPanda that I'm not sure about. I need to go back and look over their posts.

Or also, yes, a protector successfully helped whomever the wolves targeted.

I also am fairly confident in DocS and killerleaf. I was confident in kittens yesterday until they started the lynch on me.

 

[wallydo]

Oh well this changes things for me...can anyone solidly vouch for SAR?

My only SAR defense was a gut feeling - she once posted about being a noob and figuring out the game and that was why they were more on the quiet side (days ago). I related and therefore, as a villager who has been pretty darn straight forward through this game, I felt that SAR's response was something that could of come from my own mouth. But when I see that Dr. S has concerns about SAR, it raises them for me. They began to raise last night but I wasn't confident enough to put forth the vote for them quite yet. And Kittens defending SAR was something I took into consideration, because I strongly believed KM to be a villager.

Now, KM appears to be suspicious of me.

I feel I have maintained pretty straight forward game strategy this entire time. Albeit quiet at times. Specifically, yesterday, I was hardly able to play due to work/life obligations and I admit I jumped onto a vote because I didn't have confidence in one myself.

@serher, I know I was suspicious of you yesterday, but mostly because you were going for SAR. With KM being the only one to vouch for SAR, my concerns lay with KM and SAR.

 

[wallydo]

I have a lot of family things happening today, so apologies that I won't be on as often as usual. But I sure am ready to continue defending myself and figure out who is fooling us

Also same. We are packing up the dogs and heading to my boyfriend's parent's for Christmas.

 

[LyraGardenia]

Just a thought, but if no one can vouch for wally that doesn't necessarily mean she(?) is a wolf, she could just be a vanillager who hasn't had any night interactions with anyone. I can't remember if wally claims to have been PM-ing with anyone or not. If we assume there are at least 2 wolves left, I would think they would be sticking up for each other.

 

[wallydo]

Just a thought, but if no one can vouch for wally that doesn't necessarily mean she(?) is a wolf, she could just be a vanillager who hasn't had any night interactions with anyone. I can't remember if wally claims to have been PM-ing with anyone or not. If we assume there are at least 2 wolves left, I would think they would be sticking up for each other.

I just want to say... I really don't think there is any suspicious behavior that I have done in this game. Yes, I am a noob (I am just now understanding the word vanillager, and yes, that IS me) and a little unsure at times, but I have always maintained that I am a villager and have worked only for the villagers in this game.

I will say I had my first night interaction last night. Someone offered to read my fortune and perhaps it is a seer? I don't necessarily want this person to have to out themselves if that is their role, but it shows that no evidence of me being a wolf was found.

Although I am new and at times unsure, I'm trying to be as fair and consistent as possible.

Also, I have no PM'ing capabilities.

 

[wallydo]

Just a thought, but if no one can vouch for wally that doesn't necessarily mean she(?) is a wolf, she could just be a vanillager who hasn't had any night interactions with anyone. I can't remember if wally claims to have been PM-ing with anyone or not. If we assume there are at least 2 wolves left, I would think they would be sticking up for each other.

Ok, sooo, real quick. I thought vanillager was another word for noob and Kbou was calling me that. After speaking with my mentor, I've learned it's actually a person with basically no role. I am a villager. I have a passive role, and the lack of night action is what confused me. I'm sorry for the confusion, guys. Still getting the hang!

 

[LyraGardenia]

I just want to say... I really don't think there is any suspicious behavior that I have done in this game. Yes, I am a noob (I am just now understanding the word vanillager, and yes, that IS me) and a little unsure at times, but I have always maintained that I am a villager and have worked only for the villagers in this game.

I will say I had my first night interaction last night. Someone offered to read my fortune and perhaps it is a seer? I don't necessarily want this person to have to out themselves if that is their role, but it shows that no evidence of me being a wolf was found.

Although I am new and at times unsure, I'm trying to be as fair and consistent as possible.

Also, I have no PM'ing capabilities.

I also had someone offer to read my fortune night 4 I think (after Animal Midwife was killed), but they ran off without telling me anything. 🙁 I don't even know who it was, Trilt PM'd me. That's the only night interaction I've had; I still haven't used my ability.

Thanks for that wally, that bit of information makes me inclined to believe you. It sounds like we're playing the game very similarly.

 

[SkiOtter]

*******
I DEMAND MOAR LYNCHING
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[mmmdreamerz]

I also had someone offer to read my fortune night 4 I think (after Animal Midwife was killed), but they ran off without telling me anything. 🙁 I don't even know who it was, Trilt PM'd me. That's the only night interaction I've had; I still haven't used my ability.

Thanks for that wally, that bit of information makes me inclined to believe you. It sounds like we're playing the game very similarly.

This same thing happened to me...they offered cards and I picked them but then they scurried away without saying anything...

 

[wallydo]

I also had someone offer to read my fortune night 4 I think (after Animal Midwife was killed), but they ran off without telling me anything. 🙁 I don't even know who it was, Trilt PM'd me. That's the only night interaction I've had; I still haven't used my ability.

Thanks for that wally, that bit of information makes me inclined to believe you. It sounds like we're playing the game very similarly.

Lyra, that's exactly what happened. They ran off before reading the 4th card. This is makes me highly inclined to believe you, as well.

 

[wallydo]

So, @LyraGardenia and @mmmdreamerz , it sounds like we may be in a similar boat? Are you guys feeling any particular way about anyone. I still believe Dr. S and killerleaf as villagers. @serher is winning me over because of the whole SAR/KM thing. There is also the possibility of a conversion which would royally suck.

 

[Karabiner13]

It means likely a convsersion happened, so that the wolves could convert someone whose ability they would like to own. This is my understanding from my mentor.

I asked my mentor about this and what roles a wolf would like to own if a conversion happened. I was told a seer or protector were the most likely to be converted. Not saying this happened but if conversion is a possibility I guess I have to reconsider what I think I know.

Also, killer was our affiliation seer and she lost the ability when she came back so if you had an encounter with a seer, unless it was another affiliation seer, I don't think is necessarily means there was no evidence of you being a wolf. Not saying you are but just wanted to point that out.

I do believe you Wally as I am also trying to play the same way

 

[mmmdreamerz]

So, @LyraGardenia and @mmmdreamerz , it sounds like we may be in a similar boat? Are you guys feeling any particular way about anyone. I still believe Dr. S and killerleaf as villagers. @serher is winning me over because of the whole SAR/KM thing. There is also the possibility of a conversion which would royally suck.

Okay right now based on what has been said, I believe wally, ser, Dr. S, Lyra, and kittens are villagers. If I believe kittens is a villager, I guess I have to think SAR is a villager, since she defended her?

Killerleaf was a villager, but are we sure she still was when she came back?

I'm a little suspicious that when I called out karab for defending SAR, she backtracked and said she wasn't sure that SAR was actually a villager, it was just a feeling...?

Sheltered claims she has a role, but she didn't vote last night (which I completely recognize may be because of her dog...sorry sheltermed).

 

[wallydo]

I noticed that Shelter wasn't able to get a vote in last night.

 

[Karabiner13]

Okay right now based on what has been said, I believe wally, ser, Dr. S, Lyra, and kittens are villagers. If I believe kittens is a villager, I guess I have to think SAR is a villager, since she defended her?

Killerleaf was a villager, but are we sure she still was when she came back?

I'm a little suspicious that when I called out karab for defending SAR, she backtracked and said she wasn't sure that SAR was actually a villager, it was just a feeling...?

Sheltered claims she has a role, but she didn't vote last night (which I completely recognize may be because of her dog...sorry sheltermed).

Based on the timing of when her defense came up and other events that happened that day I think I know her ability. As a villager I definitely want this ability around

I think that makes sense about snowy.
I might just be over analyzing the write-ups. I can't PM with anyone so I try to use the write-ups as much as possible for details we can use.

It's always been a suspicion and a feeling that has made be believe SAR is a villager. I've not had anything definite and DrS this morning made me realize I may be guilty of over analyzing which is why I am unsure of SAR now.

 

[deleted806434]

It's important to note again that I really only started questioning SAR when SAR started questioning me. So being concerned about me simply for questioning SAR is not a very strong argument in my opinion.

If this makes a difference... someone protected me last night. Which I thought was interesting because I also thought I was going to get killed.
But no one attacked me so it didn't really matter. I wanted to share because someone thought I was worth keeping around. I am worried about the possibility of a conversion as well since from what has been posted it sounds like no one was attacked at all.

 

[wallydo]

Have we yet to hear from Shelter and TPanda?

 

[wallydo]

I am also curious to know if Kittens has additional questions/concerns aimed at me.

 

[deleted806434]

I have thought kitten was a villager this entire time, but I would like to hear if anybody can personally vouch for kitten? For instance, if anyone has used a seer item on them? I have just been going off of kitten's initial defense this entire time, so I would like more evidence if possible.

 

[wallydo]

I have thought kitten was a villager this entire time, but I would like to hear if anybody can personally vouch for kitten? For instance, if anyone has used a seer item on them? I have just been going off of kitten's initial defense this entire time, so I would like more evidence if possible.

I don't have any reasoning. Wasn't the whole reason we though Kitten was a villager is because she revealed herself as an item maker and was paralyzed one night just like Dr. S? Am I remembering this correctly?

I'm more interested if anyone has information on TrashPanda?

 

[kittenmittens524]

I am also curious to know if Kittens has additional questions/concerns aimed at me.

My only concern was that I felt like everyone had someone that could vouch for them or had solid evidence as to why they were a villager except for you, and no one has stepped forward to defend you strongly or state that they know you are a villager

 

[kittenmittens524]

I have thought kitten was a villager this entire time, but I would like to hear if anybody can personally vouch for kitten? For instance, if anyone has used a seer item on them? I have just been going off of kitten's initial defense this entire time, so I would like more evidence if possible.

The people I sent items to would be able to corroborate what I said about my role and there's another person that can state that I am a villager. If they don't say that on their own, I can tell you who it is later if necessary

 

[deleted806434]

I don't have any reasoning. Wasn't the whole reason we though Kitten was a villager is because she revealed herself as an item maker and was paralyzed one night just like Dr. S? Am I remembering this correctly?

I'm more interested if anyone has information on TrashPanda?

Yeah I think we have enough evidence, I was just curious.

Honestly I was skeptical about T-Painda, but snowy seemed to think she is a villager yesterday.

 

[deleted806434]

The people I sent items to would be able to corroborate what I said about my role and there's another person that can state that I am a villager. If they don't say that on their own, I can tell you who it is later if necessary

I'm not concerned about you. I would be very surprised of you weren't a villager. I was just curious and trying to gather as much info as possible. Hope you understand. I don't want to lynch another villager tonight haha

 

[LyraGardenia]

So, @LyraGardenia and @mmmdreamerz , it sounds like we may be in a similar boat? Are you guys feeling any particular way about anyone. I still believe Dr. S and killerleaf as villagers. @serher is winning me over because of the whole SAR/KM thing. There is also the possibility of a conversion which would royally suck.

I guess by process of elimination I mainly suspect TrashPanda and Karabiner, but there's nothing specific about them that makes me suspicious. But conversions definitely complicate things, if someone I was previously sure about has switched sides.

Also, killer was our affiliation seer and she lost the ability when she came back so if you had an encounter with a seer, unless it was another affiliation seer, I don't think is necessarily means there was no evidence of you being a wolf. Not saying you are but just wanted to point that out.

What other type of seer could there be? (I haven't read any previous games)

 

[kittenmittens524]

I'm not concerned about you. I would be very surprised of you weren't a villager. I was just curious and trying to gather as much info as possible. Hope you understand. I don't want to lynch another villager tonight haha

It's okay! I totally get it. I think its important for us to try and gather as much evidence that we have of people that can corroborate each others stories, like with you and mdream. Thats why I was concerned with wallydo, because I was surprised that at this point in the game no one has any supporting evidence of her

 

[Karabiner13]

I guess by process of elimination I mainly suspect TrashPanda and Karabiner, but there's nothing specific about them that makes me suspicious. But conversions definitely complicate things, if someone I was previously sure about has switched sides.

What other type of seer could there be? (I haven't read any previous games)

I think there are role/ability seers

 

[wallydo]

My only concern was that I felt like everyone had someone that could vouch for them or had solid evidence as to why they were a villager except for you, and no one has stepped forward to defend you strongly or state that they know you are a villager

Right. I understand. I have been forthcoming somewhat about my role (being passive w/ no night actions) and as transparent as possible in this game.

 

[wallydo]

I suppose that I hope someone who believes me to be a villager will come to my defense if needed?

 

[Doctor-S]

[Back for a while ... before going back to work again. So, I'm going to catch-up with the posts in here.]

 

[Doctor-S]

On D6 (Thursday):

KM told everyone to NOT lynch SAR.

In several of KM's posts (see post #2744 and 2748), KM has specifically stated:

"SAR is a villager."

Therefore, it appears that KM is, in fact, defending SAR at this time.

Thereafter, KM cast a vote to lynch Snowy; but then ultimately choose to lynch wally instead (i.e., see lynch voting pattern of D6).

@kittenmittens524, did you have a reason for choosing to lynch wally instead of Snowy because Snowy was a villager (and not a wolf)?

 

[SARdoghandler]

Hey guys, sorry was away dealing with a vet school mini-emergency this morning. I see my name is up again, if anyone has any questions then I'd be more than happy to answer.

I was also fortune-tellered, the night before last.

Perhaps our fortune teller-er is a wolf gathering info on villager abilities? I also got no information, just that they asked to tell my fortune, I picked two cards and they ran away.

 

[Doctor-S]

On D6 (Thursday):

mmmdeamerz, told everyone to NOT lynch serher.

To be specific:

mmm stated that she believes serher is a villager.

Therefore, it appears that mmm is, in fact, defending serher at this time.

Thereafter, mmm cast a vote to lynch SAR, followed by a lynch vote for Snowy; but then ultimately choose to lynch wally instead (i.e., see lynch voting pattern of D6).

@mmmdreamerz , did you have a reason for choosing to lynch wally instead of Snowy because Snowy was a villager (and not a wolf)?

 

[Doctor-S]

On D6 (Thursday):

I noticed that KM asked serher the following question (see Post 2771):

KM: "are you (serher) also defending wallydo?"

So, I'm wondering if KM and serher are currently working together because KM wanted to know if serher was also defending wally?

Otherwise, I don't know "why" KM would ask serher that specific question.

@kittenmittens524 , can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

@serher, can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

 

[mmmdreamerz]

On D6 (Thursday):

mmmdeamerz, told everyone to NOT lynch serher.

To be specific:

mmm stated that she believes serher is a villager.

Therefore, it appears that mmm is, in fact, defending serher at this time.

Thereafter, mmm cast a vote to lynch SAR, followed by a lynch vote for Snowy; but then ultimately choose to lynch wally instead (i.e., see lynch voting pattern of D6).

@mmmdreamerz , did you have a reason for choosing to lynch wally instead of Snowy because Snowy was a villager (and not a wolf)?

I switched from snowy to wally because someone defended snowy and said they knew she was a villager...someone then pointed out that wally tended to be a bandwagon voter and not having much time left, I switched. At this time, I don't believe that wally is a wolf, though...

 

[kittenmittens524]

On D6 (Thursday):

I noticed that KM asked serher the following question (see Post 2771):

KM: "are you (serher) also defending wallydo?"

So, I'm wondering if KM and serher are currently working together because KM wanted to know if serher was also defending wally?

Otherwise, I don't know "why" KM would ask serher that specific question.

@kittenmittens524 , can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

@serher, can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

These quotes are incorrect. What I asked serher in post 2771 was:

are you also suspicious of wallydo?

I had suspicions of wallydo and I was wondering if they could be corroborated. I have no idea where you just got that quote from

 

[kittenmittens524]

On D6 (Thursday):

I noticed that KM asked serher the following question (see Post 2771):

KM: "are you (serher) also defending wallydo?"

So, I'm wondering if KM and serher are currently working together because KM wanted to know if serher was also defending wally?

Otherwise, I don't know "why" KM would ask serher that specific question.

@kittenmittens524 , can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

@serher, can you explain the meaning of the above comment to us?

I'm concerned about how inaccurate that quoting just was..

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Does anyone have any specific into kar, shelter, or killer?

I feel like one of them will get my vote tonight...

 

[kittenmittens524]

Does anyone have any specific into kar, shelter, or killer?

I feel like one of them will get my vote tonight...

I had concerns about shelter just based on the fact that no one else corroborated her role. But I also don't want to force a role reveal

 

[wallydo]

Does anyone have any specific into kar, shelter, or killer?

I feel like one of them will get my vote tonight...

I can't say anything for shelter or kar. I don't think letting shelter slip through the cracks any longer is doing us any favors either (even though I'm sending them a very large internet hug right now). But Killer IS the reason we got our first wolf. Unless they've been converted, wouldn't that be strange if a wolf helped us get a wolf?

 

[Doctor-S]

1. On D6 (Thursday), @wallydo told everyone she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2888]

2. On D6 (Thursday), @LyraGardenia told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2890]

3. On D6 (Thursday), @mmmdreamerz told us she was offered a fortune-reading (using cards) by someone yesterday. [see Post #2892]

So, if the above statements are all true statements, it means that someone visited wallydo, Lyra and mmm yesterday (N6); and offered to read their fortunes, using some type of cards, but ran away instead, and without telling them anything. Why would someone want to read their (wally, Lyra, mmm) fortunes?

If there is one villager (with a fortune-telling power or a deck of fortune cards),I am guessing that this person would be able to confirm that she or he did, in fact, visit wally, and Lyra, and mmm yesterday.

In other words, she or he would be able to confirm that wally, Lyra, and mm are being truthful … or they would be able to state which one of the them (wally, Lyra, mmm) is not being truthful.

Anyone have any comments about this?

[By the way, is everyone left in this game a "she" or is that not correct? I don't want to offend anyone.]