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You buy them. There's no reimbursement. In essence you'll get the money back as long as you took out that out in loans, but the school won't reimburse you.
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You buy them. There's no reimbursement. In essence you'll get the money back as long as you took out that out in loans, but the school won't reimburse you.
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I believe Dr. Stowers is out of town right now? Maybe the current students can verify?
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Thanks so much for that site malisa and the other responses from everyone also. I'm comparing the prices and was curious, did y'all go with hardcover or paperback? Notice I'm practicing my southern dialect haha (I have a noticeable chicago accent). 
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Thanks so much for that site malisa and the other responses from everyone also. I'm comparing the prices and was curious, did y'all go with hardcover or paperback? Notice I'm practicing my southern dialect haha (I have a noticeable chicago accent).
I went with hardcover whenever it was available, but not many on the first semester list are sold in hardcover. I think I maybe found 3, but 2 of them aren't even on your list anymore this year.
2 groups per week, but there aren't any more interviews this year.
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Thanks so much for that site malisa and the other responses from everyone also. I'm comparing the prices and was curious, did y'all go with hardcover or paperback? Notice I'm practicing my southern dialect haha (I have a noticeable chicago accent).
I try and say y'all whenever possible ... I'm working on acquiring my southern accent! haha (I'm from WI) Oh, and I don't recall having much choice btw hardcover and paperback
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Where in WI you from? I's a Sconnie too
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Thanks so much for that site malisa and the other responses from everyone also. I'm comparing the prices and was curious, did y'all go with hardcover or paperback? Notice I'm practicing my southern dialect haha (I have a noticeable chicago accent).
Hehe. I wonder if anyone uses "you'ns" down there? =)
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I'm from Janesville.
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I have heard some "locals" say that before...
uh-oh, letters are out! anyone get a call yet?
yep, im pretty sure alternate list=waiting list.... do people also get rejected or is everyone automatically put on the waitlist??
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Heard it just last week
No, not everyone is waitlisted.
Hope you get some good news!
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Yes, that's the same as the waitlist. If LMU-DCOM is your top choice, definitely send a letter of intent!
Will do, thanks for the advice!
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The only time I've ever noticed your accent is when you actually say Wisconsin. And then it's pretty obvious. So, I think you are pretty much an adopted Southerner by now.
Hey everyone. I got my letter of acceptance yesterday and I have send the deposit within 14 days. Does anyone know if they are at all flexible about this. Money is very very very very very very tight right now, and I am having trouble figuring out how I am gonna come up with it!! Did I mention that money was kinda tight? Ha!
I have to figure it out though. I LOVE LMU-DCOM!!
I have to figure it out though. I LOVE LMU-DCOM!!
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Just a random question. What is Health Science Center? for example University of Tennessee Health Science Center. If a university has a component of various health colleges, then would it be Health Science Center? Since Lincoln Memorial University has College of Nursing, College of Osteopathic Medicine and recently, College of Physician Assistant Studies, then why it cannot be Lincoln Memorial University Health Science Center?
Thank you
Thank you
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Congratulation on your acceptance, Yes, I believe they do extend your deposit day, call the admission office and ask about that.
See you in July.
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Since Mr. DeBusk funded the whole thing, his name probably has to be in the name, and I like the sound of DeBusk College of Osteopathic Medicine a whole lot better than Health Science Center, but that's just me.
I interviewed on Apr. 7 and got the call from Dean Stowers on Apr. 20 and the letter arrived yesterday (Apr. 23). I applied pretty late!
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Does anyone know how the exam system is like? Is it weekly exams specific to the course or is it a block exam that includes most subjects?
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We have block exams, so you'll have an exam every 2-3 weeks that encompasses everything covered in all your classes over that period. It sounds like a lot, but usually averages out to 35-50 lectures (which is what you'd be responsible for in 2-3 different tests if they were weekly exams). I find it works much better this way because you get a little bit of a breather after an exam before getting back to the grind instead of constantly worrying about the next test coming up.
We also take group exams in the afternoon after our individual exam in the morning (instead of lectures in the afternoon). This serves as a formative experience to reinforce the concepts you might not have nailed on your own, and it helps the faculty gauge how well written the test was.
Another great thing about the group exams is you get to see what all the answers are. So you can almost know how to did on your exam the day of instead of having to wait the couple of days for them to be graded.
And for the block exams Essential of Patient Care and OMM are seperate tests than the other subjects.
And for the block exams Essential of Patient Care and OMM are seperate tests than the other subjects.
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I'm confused. I thought they either accepted or waitlisted. They do actually send out rejections too?
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Rarely, but the reserve the right.
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Just wondering if anyone knows how DCOM notifies people when they get pulled off of the waitlist- is it by letter or do they try to call, given the late notice of it all? Thanks!
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I sent a deposit for the single studio housing dorms back in January. How do we know if we got a room? I'm getting e-mails about some other apartment with 3 bedrooms now...so I'm not sure if that means "our regular apartments are full, try these."
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There is nothing to worry about. Call the housing office to find out. I was in the same situation and I called them, they told me that I got a room and even let me choose the floor to stay.
Hope this helps.
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Simple enough, here are 101 things you wish you knew before starting medical school.
1. If I had known what it was going to be like, I would never have done it.
2. You'll study more than you ever have in your life.
3. Only half of your class will be in the top 50%. You have a 50% chance of being in the top half of your class. Get used to it now.
4. You don't need to know anatomy before school starts. Or pathology. Or physiology.
5. Third year rotations will suck the life out you.
6. Several people from your class will have sex with each other. You might be one of the lucky participants.
7. You may discover early on that medicine isn't for you.
8. You don't have to be AOA or have impeccable board scores to match somewhere - only if you're matching into radiology.
9. Your social life may suffer some.
10. Pelvic exams are teh suck.
11. You won't be a medical student on the surgery service. You'll be the retractor bitch.
12. Residents will probably ask you to retrieve some type of nourishment for them.
13. Most of your time on rotations will be wasted. Thrown away. Down the drain.
14. You'll work with at least one attending physician who you'll want to beat the **** out of.
15. You'll work with at least three residents who you'll want to beat the **** out of.
16. You'll ask a stranger about the quality of their stools.
17. You'll ask post-op patients if they've farted within the last 24 hours.
18. At some point during your stay, a stranger's bodily fluids will most likely come into contact with your exposed skin.
19. Somebody in your class will flunk out of medical school.
20. You'll work 14 days straight without a single day off. Probably multiple times.
21. A student in your class will have sex with an attending or resident.
22. After the first two years are over, your summer breaks will no longer exist. Enjoy them as much as you can.
23. You'll be sleep deprived.
24. There will be times on certain rotations where you won't be allowed to eat.
25. You will be pimped.
26. You'll wake up one day and ask yourself is this really what you want out of life.
27. You'll party a lot during the first two years, but then that pretty much ends at the beginning of your junior year.
28. You'll probably change your specialty of choice at least 4 times.
29. You'll spend a good deal of your time playing social worker.
30. You'll learn that medical insurance reimbursement is a huge problem, particularly for primary care physicians.
31. Nurses will treat you badly, simply because you are a medical student.
32. There will be times when you'll be ignored by your attending or resident.
33. You will develop a thick skin. If you fail to do this, you'll cry often.
34. Public humiliation is very commonplace in medical training.
35. Surgeons are *******s. Take my word for it now.
36. OB/GYN residents are treated like ****, and that **** runs downhill. Be ready to pick it up and sleep with it.
37. It's always the medical student's fault.
38. Gunner is a derogatory word. It's almost as bad as racial slurs.
39. You'll look forward to the weekend, not so you can relax and have a good time but so you can catch up on studying for the week.
40. Your house might go uncleaned for two weeks during an intensive exam block.
41. As a medical student on rotations, you don't matter. In fact, you get in the way and impede productivity.
42. There's a fair chance that you will be physically struck by a nurse, resident, or attending physician. This may include slapped on the hand or kicked on the shin in order to instruct you to "move" or "get out of the way."
43. Any really bad procedures will be done by you. The residents don't want to do them, and you're the low man on the totem pole. This includes rectal examinations and digital disimpactions.
44. You'll be competing against the best of the best, the cream of the crop. This isn't college where half of your classmates are idiots. Everybody in medical school is smart.
45. Don't think that you own the world because you just got accepted into medical school. That kind of attitude will humble you faster than anything else.
46. If you're in it for the money, there are much better, more efficient ways to make a living. Medicine is not one of them.
47. Anatomy sucks. All of the bone names sound the same.
48. If there is anything at all that you'd rather do in life, do not go into medicine.
49. The competition doesn't end after getting accepted to medical school. You'll have to compete for class rank, awards, and residency. If you want to do a fellowship, you'll have to compete for that too.
50. You'll never look at weekends the same again.
51. VA hospitals suck. Most of them are old, but the medical records system is good.
52. Your fourth year in medical school will be like a vacation compared to the first three years. It's a good thing too, because you'll need one.
53. Somebody in your class will be known as the "highlighter *****." Most often a female, she'll carry around a backpack full of every highlighter color known to man. She'll actually use them, too.
54. Rumors surrounding members of your class will spread faster than they did in high school.
55. You'll meet a lot of cool people, many new friends, and maybe your husband or wife.
56. No matter how bad your medical school experience was at times, you'll still be able to think about the good times. Kind of like how I am doing right now.
57. Your first class get-together will be the most memorable. Cherish those times.
58. Long after medical school is over, you'll still keep in contact with the friends you made. I do nearly every day.
59. Gunners always sit in the front row. This rule never fails. However, not everyone who sits in the front row is a gunner.
60. There will be one person in your class who's the coolest, most laid back person you've ever met. This guy will sit in the back row and throw paper airplanes during class, and then blow up with 260+ Step I's after second year. True story.
61. At the beginning of first year, everyone will talk about how cool it's going to be to help patients. At the end of third year, everybody will talk about how cool it's going to be to make a lot of money.
62. Students who start medical school wanting to do primary care end up in dermatology. Those students who start medical school wanting to do dermatology end up in family medicine.
63. Telling local girls at the bar that you're a medical student doesn't mean ****. They've been hearing that for years. Be more unique.
64. The money isn't really that good in medicine. Not if you look at it in terms of hours worked.
65. Don't wear your white coat into the gas station, or any other business that has nothing to do with you wearing a white coat. You look like an ass, and people do make fun of you.
66. Don't round on patients that aren't yours. If you round on another student's patients, that will spread around your class like fire after a 10 year drought. Your team will think you're an idiot too.
67. If you are on a rotation with other students, don't bring in journal articles to share with the team "on the fly" without letting the other students know. This makes you look like a gunner, and nobody likes a gunner. Do it once, and you might as well bring in a new topic daily. Rest assured that your fellow students will just to show you up.
68. If you piss off your intern, he or she can make your life hell.
69. If your intern pisses you off, you can make his or her life hell.
70. Don't try to work during medical school. Live life and enjoy the first two years.
71. Not participating in tons of ECs doesn't hurt your chances for residency. Forget the weekend free clinic and play some Frisbee golf instead.
72. Don't rent an apartment. If you can afford to, buy a small home instead. I saved $200 per month and had roughly $30,000 in equity by choosing to buy versus rent.
73. Your family members will ask you for medical advice, even after your first week of first year.
74. Many of your friends will go onto great jobs and fantastic lifestyles. You'll be faced with 4 more years of debt and then at least 3 years of residency before you'll see any real earning potential.
75. Pick a specialty based around what you like to do.
76. At least once during your 4 year stay, you'll wonder if you should quit.
77. It's amazing how fast time flies on your days off. It's equally amazing at how slow the days are on a rotation you hate.
78. You'll learn to be scared of asking for time off.
79. No matter what specialty you want to do, somebody on an unrelated rotation will hold it against you.
80. A great way to piss of attendings and residents are to tell them that you don't plan to complete a residency.
81. Many of your rotations will require you to be the "vitals bitch." On surgery, you'll be the "retractor bitch."
82. Sitting around in a group and talking about ethical issues involving patients is not fun.
83. If an attending or resident treats you badly, call them out on it. You can get away with far more than you think.
84. Going to class is generally a waste of time. Make your own schedule and enjoy the added free time.
85. Find new ways to study. The methods you used in college may or may not work. If something doesn't work, adapt.
86. Hospitals smell bad.
87. Subjective evaluations are just that - subjective. They aren't your end all, be all so don't dwell on a poor evaluation. The person giving it was probably an *******, anyway.
88. Some physicians will tell you it's better than it really is. Take what you hear (both positive and negative) with a grain of salt.
89. 90% of surgeons are *******s, and 63% of statistics are made up. The former falls in the lucky 37%.
90. The best time of your entire medical school career is between the times when you first get your acceptance letter and when you start school.
91. During the summer before medical school starts, do not attempt to study or read anything remotely related to medicine. Take this time to travel and do things for you.
92. The residents and faculty in OB/GYN will be some of the most malignant personalities you've ever come into contact with.
93. Vaginal deliveries are messy. So are c-sections. It's just an all-around blood fest if you like that sort of thing.
94. Despite what the faculty tell you, you don't need all of the fancy equipment that they suggest for you to buy. All you need is a stethoscope. The other equipment they say you "need" is standard in all clinic and hospital exam rooms. If it's not standard, your training hospital and clinics suck.
95. If your school has a note taking service, it's a good idea to pony up the cash for it. It saves time and gives you the option of not attending lecture.
96. Medicine is better than being a janitor, but there were times when I envied the people cleaning the hospital trash cans.
97. Avoid surgery like the plague.
98. See above and then apply it to OB/GYN as well.
99. The money is good in medicine, but it's not all that great especially considering the amount of time that you'll have to work.
100. One time an HIV+ patient ripped out his IV and then "slung" his blood at the staff in the room. Go, go infectious disease.
101. Read Med School Hell now, throughout medical school, and then after you're done. Then come back and tell me how right I am.
1. If I had known what it was going to be like, I would never have done it.
2. You'll study more than you ever have in your life.
3. Only half of your class will be in the top 50%. You have a 50% chance of being in the top half of your class. Get used to it now.
4. You don't need to know anatomy before school starts. Or pathology. Or physiology.
5. Third year rotations will suck the life out you.
6. Several people from your class will have sex with each other. You might be one of the lucky participants.
7. You may discover early on that medicine isn't for you.
8. You don't have to be AOA or have impeccable board scores to match somewhere - only if you're matching into radiology.
9. Your social life may suffer some.
10. Pelvic exams are teh suck.
11. You won't be a medical student on the surgery service. You'll be the retractor bitch.
12. Residents will probably ask you to retrieve some type of nourishment for them.
13. Most of your time on rotations will be wasted. Thrown away. Down the drain.
14. You'll work with at least one attending physician who you'll want to beat the **** out of.
15. You'll work with at least three residents who you'll want to beat the **** out of.
16. You'll ask a stranger about the quality of their stools.
17. You'll ask post-op patients if they've farted within the last 24 hours.
18. At some point during your stay, a stranger's bodily fluids will most likely come into contact with your exposed skin.
19. Somebody in your class will flunk out of medical school.
20. You'll work 14 days straight without a single day off. Probably multiple times.
21. A student in your class will have sex with an attending or resident.
22. After the first two years are over, your summer breaks will no longer exist. Enjoy them as much as you can.
23. You'll be sleep deprived.
24. There will be times on certain rotations where you won't be allowed to eat.
25. You will be pimped.
26. You'll wake up one day and ask yourself is this really what you want out of life.
27. You'll party a lot during the first two years, but then that pretty much ends at the beginning of your junior year.
28. You'll probably change your specialty of choice at least 4 times.
29. You'll spend a good deal of your time playing social worker.
30. You'll learn that medical insurance reimbursement is a huge problem, particularly for primary care physicians.
31. Nurses will treat you badly, simply because you are a medical student.
32. There will be times when you'll be ignored by your attending or resident.
33. You will develop a thick skin. If you fail to do this, you'll cry often.
34. Public humiliation is very commonplace in medical training.
35. Surgeons are *******s. Take my word for it now.
36. OB/GYN residents are treated like ****, and that **** runs downhill. Be ready to pick it up and sleep with it.
37. It's always the medical student's fault.
38. Gunner is a derogatory word. It's almost as bad as racial slurs.
39. You'll look forward to the weekend, not so you can relax and have a good time but so you can catch up on studying for the week.
40. Your house might go uncleaned for two weeks during an intensive exam block.
41. As a medical student on rotations, you don't matter. In fact, you get in the way and impede productivity.
42. There's a fair chance that you will be physically struck by a nurse, resident, or attending physician. This may include slapped on the hand or kicked on the shin in order to instruct you to "move" or "get out of the way."
43. Any really bad procedures will be done by you. The residents don't want to do them, and you're the low man on the totem pole. This includes rectal examinations and digital disimpactions.
44. You'll be competing against the best of the best, the cream of the crop. This isn't college where half of your classmates are idiots. Everybody in medical school is smart.
45. Don't think that you own the world because you just got accepted into medical school. That kind of attitude will humble you faster than anything else.
46. If you're in it for the money, there are much better, more efficient ways to make a living. Medicine is not one of them.
47. Anatomy sucks. All of the bone names sound the same.
48. If there is anything at all that you'd rather do in life, do not go into medicine.
49. The competition doesn't end after getting accepted to medical school. You'll have to compete for class rank, awards, and residency. If you want to do a fellowship, you'll have to compete for that too.
50. You'll never look at weekends the same again.
51. VA hospitals suck. Most of them are old, but the medical records system is good.
52. Your fourth year in medical school will be like a vacation compared to the first three years. It's a good thing too, because you'll need one.
53. Somebody in your class will be known as the "highlighter *****." Most often a female, she'll carry around a backpack full of every highlighter color known to man. She'll actually use them, too.
54. Rumors surrounding members of your class will spread faster than they did in high school.
55. You'll meet a lot of cool people, many new friends, and maybe your husband or wife.
56. No matter how bad your medical school experience was at times, you'll still be able to think about the good times. Kind of like how I am doing right now.
57. Your first class get-together will be the most memorable. Cherish those times.
58. Long after medical school is over, you'll still keep in contact with the friends you made. I do nearly every day.
59. Gunners always sit in the front row. This rule never fails. However, not everyone who sits in the front row is a gunner.
60. There will be one person in your class who's the coolest, most laid back person you've ever met. This guy will sit in the back row and throw paper airplanes during class, and then blow up with 260+ Step I's after second year. True story.
61. At the beginning of first year, everyone will talk about how cool it's going to be to help patients. At the end of third year, everybody will talk about how cool it's going to be to make a lot of money.
62. Students who start medical school wanting to do primary care end up in dermatology. Those students who start medical school wanting to do dermatology end up in family medicine.
63. Telling local girls at the bar that you're a medical student doesn't mean ****. They've been hearing that for years. Be more unique.
64. The money isn't really that good in medicine. Not if you look at it in terms of hours worked.
65. Don't wear your white coat into the gas station, or any other business that has nothing to do with you wearing a white coat. You look like an ass, and people do make fun of you.
66. Don't round on patients that aren't yours. If you round on another student's patients, that will spread around your class like fire after a 10 year drought. Your team will think you're an idiot too.
67. If you are on a rotation with other students, don't bring in journal articles to share with the team "on the fly" without letting the other students know. This makes you look like a gunner, and nobody likes a gunner. Do it once, and you might as well bring in a new topic daily. Rest assured that your fellow students will just to show you up.
68. If you piss off your intern, he or she can make your life hell.
69. If your intern pisses you off, you can make his or her life hell.
70. Don't try to work during medical school. Live life and enjoy the first two years.
71. Not participating in tons of ECs doesn't hurt your chances for residency. Forget the weekend free clinic and play some Frisbee golf instead.
72. Don't rent an apartment. If you can afford to, buy a small home instead. I saved $200 per month and had roughly $30,000 in equity by choosing to buy versus rent.
73. Your family members will ask you for medical advice, even after your first week of first year.
74. Many of your friends will go onto great jobs and fantastic lifestyles. You'll be faced with 4 more years of debt and then at least 3 years of residency before you'll see any real earning potential.
75. Pick a specialty based around what you like to do.
76. At least once during your 4 year stay, you'll wonder if you should quit.
77. It's amazing how fast time flies on your days off. It's equally amazing at how slow the days are on a rotation you hate.
78. You'll learn to be scared of asking for time off.
79. No matter what specialty you want to do, somebody on an unrelated rotation will hold it against you.
80. A great way to piss of attendings and residents are to tell them that you don't plan to complete a residency.
81. Many of your rotations will require you to be the "vitals bitch." On surgery, you'll be the "retractor bitch."
82. Sitting around in a group and talking about ethical issues involving patients is not fun.
83. If an attending or resident treats you badly, call them out on it. You can get away with far more than you think.
84. Going to class is generally a waste of time. Make your own schedule and enjoy the added free time.
85. Find new ways to study. The methods you used in college may or may not work. If something doesn't work, adapt.
86. Hospitals smell bad.
87. Subjective evaluations are just that - subjective. They aren't your end all, be all so don't dwell on a poor evaluation. The person giving it was probably an *******, anyway.
88. Some physicians will tell you it's better than it really is. Take what you hear (both positive and negative) with a grain of salt.
89. 90% of surgeons are *******s, and 63% of statistics are made up. The former falls in the lucky 37%.
90. The best time of your entire medical school career is between the times when you first get your acceptance letter and when you start school.
91. During the summer before medical school starts, do not attempt to study or read anything remotely related to medicine. Take this time to travel and do things for you.
92. The residents and faculty in OB/GYN will be some of the most malignant personalities you've ever come into contact with.
93. Vaginal deliveries are messy. So are c-sections. It's just an all-around blood fest if you like that sort of thing.
94. Despite what the faculty tell you, you don't need all of the fancy equipment that they suggest for you to buy. All you need is a stethoscope. The other equipment they say you "need" is standard in all clinic and hospital exam rooms. If it's not standard, your training hospital and clinics suck.
95. If your school has a note taking service, it's a good idea to pony up the cash for it. It saves time and gives you the option of not attending lecture.
96. Medicine is better than being a janitor, but there were times when I envied the people cleaning the hospital trash cans.
97. Avoid surgery like the plague.
98. See above and then apply it to OB/GYN as well.
99. The money is good in medicine, but it's not all that great especially considering the amount of time that you'll have to work.
100. One time an HIV+ patient ripped out his IV and then "slung" his blood at the staff in the room. Go, go infectious disease.
101. Read Med School Hell now, throughout medical school, and then after you're done. Then come back and tell me how right I am.
No... I had to switch. Where are you living in Harrogate? Because some areas ATT works better and in some places Verizon works the best. But when I came up here with Tmobile it roamed to ATT the whole time and I had to switch.
It's really funny how many of those I have already found true after my first year! Looks like it will just keep getting better
It really depends I think... I think both work at the student apartments but I've talked to different people renting houses and in some of the cases only one of them works.
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I'll live in school apartment. BTW, which one did you switch to? Since my phone is family plan. It's really sucks if I change it now.
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Hi guys,
Does anyone know that if summer externship rotation (Summer between M1 and M2) count for Elective Away-Rotation in the M3 or at least something? It sounds kindda silly, doesn't it? Matter of fact, a Cardiology PD at a XYZ medical school is a best friend of my dad, he allows me to do rotations in Cardio at his dept. at anytime So I wondered if I could do it early even though I know I have not toughed the ground of clinical medicine yet.
If anyone knows, please tell me.
Thank you very much.
Does anyone know that if summer externship rotation (Summer between M1 and M2) count for Elective Away-Rotation in the M3 or at least something? It sounds kindda silly, doesn't it? Matter of fact, a Cardiology PD at a XYZ medical school is a best friend of my dad, he allows me to do rotations in Cardio at his dept. at anytime So I wondered if I could do it early even though I know I have not toughed the ground of clinical medicine yet.
If anyone knows, please tell me.
Thank you very much.
I tried switching to Verizon at first but it didnt work out my house so then I switched again to ATT. I think at the apartments both work equally well.
(Sucks I always thought Tmobile had better deals)
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So definitely no T-Mobile at school apartment? where can I go to switch the phone? Don't tell me it's in Knoxville
. just k/dSo definitely no T-Mobile at school apartment? where can I go to switch the phone? Don't tell me it's in Knoxville
Well I got my phones on letstalk.com because they always have better deals than the actual ATT or verizon stores have. But there are ATT and Verizon stores around if you don't want to do it online.
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