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tombreaz said:
His resignation letter to PSU is pretty intense.
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www.commonsense.news

My University Sacrificed Ideas for Ideology. So Today I Quit.

The more I spoke out against the illiberalism that has swallowed Portland State University, the more retaliation I faced.
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I think Title IX, as practiced by the democrats, is against everything American (kangaroo courts). If there was one good thing coming out of electing Trump, it was Betsy DeVos's reform.

Btw, I strongly recommend paying for Common Sense. Worth every penny (although it can be read for free).
 
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FFP said:
www.commonsense.news

My University Sacrificed Ideas for Ideology. So Today I Quit.

The more I spoke out against the illiberalism that has swallowed Portland State University, the more retaliation I faced.
www.commonsense.news www.commonsense.news

I think Title IX, as it's practiced by the democrats, is against everything American (kangaroo courts). If there was one good thing coming out of electing Trump, it was Betsy DeVos's reform.
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I never heard much about her reform. What did she do? Since DEI has been thrown around so much I think it's apt to mention lowest unemployment rate for blacks was a pretty big win under Trump, too. (Something DIE pushers should actually be applauding). 3 good justices appointed was nice as well.
 
tombreaz said:
I never heard much about her reform. What did she do? Since DEI has been thrown around so much I think it's apt to mention lowest unemployment rate for blacks was a pretty big win under Trump, too. (Something DIE pushers should actually be applauding). 3 good justices appointed was nice as well.
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She basically threw out the Obama regulations (similar to the current ones) that allow universities to play with people's lives based on sexual accusations.
 
FFP said:
She basically threw out the Obama regulations (similar to the current ones) that allow universities to play with people's lives based on sexual accusations, without due process in a court of law.
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I remember watching a few of the hearings when she was being appointed and people were so triggered.
 
tombreaz said:
I remember watching a few of the hearings when she was being appointed and people were so triggered.
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I was pretty pissed myself. Then every time I heard about something she did, I was like "this makes sense".

www.cnn.com

DeVos finalizes regulations that give more rights to those accused of sexual assault on college campuses

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Wednesday formally announced new protections for those accused of campus sexual harassment and assault, a controversial move that upends Obama-era guidance she had argued denied due process to the accused.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

According to current regulations, one can be accused of a sexual crime and not even face one's accuser, because it's not a court of law. See Boghossian (he got lucky). This in a system where making false accusations is not punished the same way as being found guilty of that very crime.
 
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FFP said:
I was pretty pissed myself. Then every time I heard about something she did, I was like "this makes sense".

www.cnn.com

DeVos finalizes regulations that give more rights to those accused of sexual assault on college campuses

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Wednesday formally announced new protections for those accused of campus sexual harassment and assault, a controversial move that upends Obama-era guidance she had argued denied due process to the accused.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

According to current regulations, one can be accused of a sexual crime and not even face one's accuser, because it's not a court of law. See Boghossian (he got lucky). This in a system where making false accusations is not punished with the same measure as being found guilty of the same crime.
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I wish people commented on the medical school article I posted...
 
tombreaz said:
I wish people commented on the medical school article I posted...
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Nothing new in that. CRT and other racialist theories about hating whites are being taught all around the country.

The stupidity of it is unbelievable: in a country with 70% white patients, who would want a doctor who was indoctrinated in medical school to think less of them? I know I wouldn't.
 
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FFP said:
Nothing new in that. CRT and other racialist theories about hating whites are being taught all around the country.
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I'd always assumed that STEM fields would help hold it at bay, not embrace it.
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tombreaz said:
I'd always assumed that STEM fields would help hold it at bay, not embrace it.
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AFAIK, Math did not embrace it, but that's because those are really smart people.

The rest of STEM is like medicine: above average, not geniuses. People don't realize that even an IQ of 120 is nothing to beat one's chest for.
 
tombreaz said:
Can I post this here or is somewhere else better? I've seen a lot of crossover into these topics on this thread. Interested in everyone's thoughts.

www.tampafp.com

CRT Foe Releases Report Showing 58% Of Nation’s Top Medical Schools Forcing CRT

A report released last week indicated that the University of Florida’s medical school is imposing controversial Critical Race Theory platitudes on its
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I am making no claim one way or another on CRT and its implementation in medical schools. I just want to point out a few things that I wonder if you've considered. Look at how the article is titled 'Forcing CRT', as if it's against someone else's will. Also, the article is based on a report, which I also went and read, which had a lot of anti-CRT language, concerns of its implementation at UF, but in the end it had nothing concrete and nothing greatly concerning. Which leads me to this - what exactly are you worried about?

The article quotes a group called CriticalRace.org (gee...I wonder what they're all about) as saying 58 of the top 100 medical schools have 'embraced CRT explicity' which is probably a completely subjective call by a group actively looking for this type of stuff. Again, I wonder, why are we worried about what highly educated students are being taught with regard to ethics, race, racial construct, systemic racism, etc. Are they not smart enough to, in the end, figure it out for themselves?

So I question the existence of the group called CriticalRace.org. I know what they're after, and it would require a great amount of effort for me to discern how they are determining or coming to such a concrete conclusion on the question they're asking (is CRT teaching present in medical school teaching?). I also wonder why they care?

And I also wonder why other people reading the article, clicking the link, don't approach it with the same questioning manner, as opposed to clicking the article and screaming in their head 'OMG THE WOKESS HAVE INFILTRATED THE MEDICAL SCHOOLZZZ!!'
 
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tombreaz said:
I never heard much about her reform. What did she do? Since DEI has been thrown around so much I think it's apt to mention lowest unemployment rate for blacks was a pretty big win under Trump, too. (Something DIE pushers should actually be applauding). 3 good justices appointed was nice as well.
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What did Trump in particular do to increase black employment? Was the unemployment rate low for everyone?
 
Southpaw said:
What did Trump in particular do to increase black employment? Was the unemployment rate low for everyone?
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It doesn't even matter what he did in particular. This ain't affirmative action, and shouldn't be. Envy shouldn't have a place in it.

Between two choices: one that is trying to help me "in particular" but almost always fails (empty words to keep getting my vote), and the other that couldn't care less about me but it's clearly good economically for me (and everybody else, but who cares), an intelligent person would always choose the latter.

Do read Blackout by Candace Owens, people, especially if African American.
 
nimbus said:
My thoughts? Even Florida, DeSantis-land, is getting woke.
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Do you say this mainly because the article touches on Florida schools that are are including CRT? Or is there more?
 
Southpaw said:
I am making no claim one way or another on CRT and its implementation in medical schools. I just want to point out a few things that I wonder if you've considered. Look at how the article is titled 'Forcing CRT', as if it's against someone else's will. Also, the article is based on a report, which I also went and read, which had a lot of anti-CRT language, concerns of its implementation at UF, but in the end it had nothing concrete and nothing greatly concerning. Which leads me to this - what exactly are you worried about?

The article quotes a group called CriticalRace.org (gee...I wonder what they're all about) as saying 58 of the top 100 medical schools have 'embraced CRT explicity' which is probably a completely subjective call by a group actively looking for this type of stuff. Again, I wonder, why are we worried about what highly educated students are being taught with regard to ethics, race, racial construct, systemic racism, etc. Are they not smart enough to, in the end, figure it out for themselves?

So I question the existence of the group called CriticalRace.org. I know what they're after, and it would require a great amount of effort for me to discern how they are determining or coming to such a concrete conclusion on the question they're asking (is CRT teaching present in medical school teaching?). I also wonder why they care?

And I also wonder why other people reading the article, clicking the link, don't approach it with the same questioning manner, as opposed to clicking the article and screaming in their head 'OMG THE WOKESS HAVE INFILTRATED THE MEDICAL SCHOOLZZZ!!'
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The article states in a few places "why they care". Not wanting doctors to be political activists when seeing patients was towards the end if I remember.
 
Southpaw said:
What did Trump in particular do to increase black employment? Was the unemployment rate low for everyone?
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In particular? Not sure exactly. I assume it'd be hard to attribute particulars (similar to how people now blame Biden for high gas prices but then people say it's not his fault-presidents get blamed for the bad and get credit for the good during their terms, usually). My thought is that his policies opened up the economy which allowed people to get jobs easier. But blacks having their lowest unemployment rate ever is a pretty great thing. Should be something everyone can agree on.

Was it low for everyone? DEI doesn't care about everyone 😉
 
FFP said:
It doesn't even matter what he did in particular. This ain't affirmative action, and shouldn't be. Envy shouldn't have a place in it.

Between two choices: one that is trying to help me "in particular" but almost always fails (empty words to keep getting my vote), and the other that couldn't care less about me but it's clearly good economically for me (and everybody else, but who cares), an intelligent person would always choose the latter.

Do read Blackout by Candace Owens, people, especially if African American.
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I echo Candace Owens with Voddie Baucham, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, John McWhorter, Glenn Loury. Who am I forgetting?
 
tombreaz said:
I echo Candace Owens with Voddie Baucham, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, John McWhorter, Glenn Loury. Who am I forgetting?
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Sowell and Loury are phenomenal thinkers. Maybe even McWhorter. I don't know the others.

To me, there are two kinds of black people (and this applies to every minority or handicap): humans who happen to be black, and those who allow their skin color to dictate their lives and see themselves as black before human and everything else. Most truly great people are in the former category.
 
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FFP said:
Between two choices: one that is trying to help me "in particular" but almost always fails (empty words to keep getting my vote), and the other that couldn't care less about me but it's clearly good economically for me (and everybody else, but who cares), an intelligent person would always choose the latter.
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I understand the point you’re making here, but it just doesn’t work out that way it reality, even when you take race out of the equation. It’s no secret that the ones who benefit most from GOP policies are the wealthy and “trickle down economics” is an absolute farce. I do agree with you though that the other side is no better with their empty promises and pandering.
 
thinkorswim said:
I understand the point you’re making here, but it just doesn’t work out that way it reality, even when you take race out of the equation. It’s no secret that the ones who benefit most from GOP policies are the wealthy and “trickle down economics” is an absolute farce. I do agree with you though that the other side is no better with their empty promises and pandering.
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I know that this is how it works, but it's STUPID. People who think like this will always stay poor and unhappy, regardless how much money one throws at them.

It's the equivalent of people not being happy working for 100K where others are making 120K or more, vs making 50K where others are making 40K, especially if they make the extra 10K because they are so special. Oh, yeah, the latter job is so much better. 🙄

This mentality also explains why people like this like radical socialism, AKA where everybody is as piss poor as everybody else, except the former bourgeois who are even poorer. That's so much better.

I despise Trump, but I can't deny the positive effect his approach had on the economy.
 
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tombreaz said:
In particular? Not sure exactly. I assume it'd be hard to attribute particulars (similar to how people now blame Biden for high gas prices but then people say it's not his fault-presidents get blamed for the bad and get credit for the good during their terms, usually). My thought is that his policies opened up the economy which allowed people to get jobs easier. But blacks having their lowest unemployment rate ever is a pretty great thing. Should be something everyone can agree on.

Was it low for everyone? DEI doesn't care about everyone 😉
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FFP said:
It doesn't even matter what he did in particular. This ain't affirmative action, and shouldn't be. Envy shouldn't have a place in it.

Between two choices: one that is trying to help me "in particular" but almost always fails (empty words to keep getting my vote), and the other that couldn't care less about me but it's clearly good economically for me (and everybody else, but who cares), an intelligent person would always choose the latter.

Do read Blackout by Candace Owens, people, especially if African American.
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fred.stlouisfed.org

Unemployment Rate - Black or African American

Graph and download economic data for Unemployment Rate - Black or African American (LNS14000006) from Jan 1972 to Dec 2025 about African-American, 16 years +, household survey, unemployment, rate, and USA.
fred.stlouisfed.org

so when I look at objective data like this I see, as opposed to how you feel or what you think, in the Trump years there appears a continuation of what started during the Obama/Biden administration. I appreciate your subjective opinions on the difference between Democrats and Republicans and the reading suggestions.

I welcome all eyeroll emojis from FFP that follow.
 
FFP said:
I know that this is how it works, but it's STUPID. People who think like this will always stay poor and unhappy, regardless how much money one throws at them.

It's the equivalent of people not being happy working for 100K where others are making 120K or more, vs making 50K where others are making 40K, especially if they make the extra 10K because they are so special. Oh, yeah, the latter job is so much better. 🙄

This mentality also explains why people like this like radical socialism, AKA where everybody is as piss poor as everybody else, except the former bourgeois who are even poorer. That's so much better.

I despise Trump, but I can't deny the positive effect his approach had on the economy.
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I don’t think someone wakes up one morning and decides they don’t want to be poor anymore so they go out and vote Republican.

You’re missing my point though. I’m not arguing that one party is better than another for our economy and society as a whole. I think both sides are failing us miserably in different ways. One side gives handouts to the wealthy while the other gives them to the poor. Both ignore the absolute erosion of our middle class and decrease in upward mobility, two things which have created economic productivity and allowed our society to thrive since World War II. And the ones being squeezed the hardest by both Republican and Democratic policies are folks like us, the upper middle class.

Scott Galloway does an excellent job articulating this.

www.pbs.org

How Did America Go “Adrift?” Scott Galloway Explains

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, HOST: Now, while the current social and economic crisis in United States seemed complex, our next guest believes that it can be fixed. […]
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FFP said:
I know that this is how it works, but it's STUPID. People who think like this will always stay poor and unhappy, regardless how much money one throws at them.

It's the equivalent of people not being happy working for 100K where others are making 120K or more, vs making 50K where others are making 40K, especially if they make the extra 10K because they are so special. Oh, yeah, the latter job is so much better. 🙄

This mentality also explains why people like this like radical socialism, AKA where everybody is as piss poor as everybody else, except the former bourgeois who are even poorer. That's so much better.

I despise Trump, but I can't deny the positive effect his approach had on the economy.
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By positive effect on the economy, you mean he increased the deficit, slashed corporate taxes, and as a result you saw stock market go up and investments increase.

I don’t think for the majority of America they felt the economy go up under trump. Correct me if I am wrong, but wages did not increase significantly.
 
dipriMAN said:
By positive effect on the economy, you mean he increased the deficit, slashed corporate taxes, and as a result you saw stock market go up and investments increase.

I don’t think for the majority of America they felt the economy go up under trump. Correct me if I am wrong, but wages did not increase significantly.
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I didn't feel it, that's for sure.

But I can see how decreasing unemployment to the lowest ever in the black community should be a big thing (if true).

Anyway, I think this whole if you're X you should vote only with that party is dumb. Just because one party puts "our" crooks in power positions, instead of "their" crooks, nothing really changes. Just "visual" diversity.
 
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Southpaw said:
fred.stlouisfed.org

Unemployment Rate - Black or African American

Graph and download economic data for Unemployment Rate - Black or African American (LNS14000006) from Jan 1972 to Dec 2025 about African-American, 16 years +, household survey, unemployment, rate, and USA.
fred.stlouisfed.org

so when I look at objective data like this I see, as opposed to how you feel or what you think, in the Trump years there appears a continuation of what started during the Obama/Biden administration. I appreciate your subjective opinions on the difference between Democrats and Republicans and the reading suggestions.

I welcome all eyeroll emojis from FFP that follow.
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Everybody always takes credit for stuff done by predecessors, or blames them. It's hard to determine causation.

I think Trump is a con-man with good instincts, and he just got lucky with a bunch of stuff (e.g. the stock market). I only attribute him exclusive merit in few things, like trying to decrease the bureaucracy and looking at things with a businessperson's eyes (or foreign political successes). I don't trust almost anything coming out of his mouth. But the economy seems to have flourished under him (the stock market tends to go up when company revenues go up, which means that people are spending money, which means people have money to spend, which means they have jobs etc.).

I can understand why the average person did not feel a big difference. That applies to most presidents, including Obama.
 
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FFP said:
Sowell and Loury are phenomenal thinkers. Maybe even McWhorter. I don't know the others.

To me, there are two kinds of black people (and this applies to every minority or handicap): humans who happen to be black, and those who allow their skin color to dictate their lives and see themselves as black before human and everything else. Most truly great people are in the former category.
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You'll love the others if you like Sowell. Walter was a good friend of his and was a prof as well.
 
thinkorswim said:
I understand the point you’re making here, but it just doesn’t work out that way it reality, even when you take race out of the equation. It’s no secret that the ones who benefit most from GOP policies are the wealthy and “trickle down economics” is an absolute farce. I do agree with you though that the other side is no better with their empty promises and pandering.
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Trickle down, eh?
 
Southpaw said:
fred.stlouisfed.org

Unemployment Rate - Black or African American

Graph and download economic data for Unemployment Rate - Black or African American (LNS14000006) from Jan 1972 to Dec 2025 about African-American, 16 years +, household survey, unemployment, rate, and USA.
fred.stlouisfed.org

so when I look at objective data like this I see, as opposed to how you feel or what you think, in the Trump years there appears a continuation of what started during the Obama/Biden administration. I appreciate your subjective opinions on the difference between Democrats and Republicans and the reading suggestions.

I welcome all eyeroll emojis from FFP that follow.
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I already alluded to this in my statement about presidents getting credit for good and bad. They also get attributed good and bad after their time in office-as you just asserted. Again, hard to tell and everybody does it. I could find and post studies on my point but I don't care to have a partisan back and forth.

The fact still stands that blacks had their lowest unemployment ever under Trump's presidency. If you want to try and claim it was due to the former president then okay. It shows that the far too often used insult of racist about Trump doesn't hold much water.
 
FFP said:
Everybody always takes credit for stuff done by predecessors, or blames them. It's hard to determine causation.

I think Trump is a con-man with good instincts, and he just got lucky with a bunch of stuff (e.g. the stock market). I only attribute him exclusive merit in few things, like trying to decrease the bureaucracy and looking at things with a businessperson's eyes (or foreign political successes). I don't trust almost anything coming out of his mouth. But the economy seems to have flourished under him (the stock market tends to go up when company revenues go up, which means that people are spending money, which means people have money to spend, which means they have jobs etc.).

I can understand why the average person did not feel a big difference. That applies to most presidents, including Obama.
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The entertainment value was top notch on many occasions 😉
 
tombreaz said:


Trickle down, eh?
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Your post is nothing more than the opinion of a conservative economist at a conservative think tank, lacking any data or evidence.

The 2022 World Inequality Report looked back at decades of data and shows that cutting taxes on the wealthy have markedly increased wealth inequality. They conclude that “inequality is not inevitable, it is a political choice” and “modest progressive taxes can generate significant revenues for governments” to reinvest in education, health and the ecological transition. All of which help narrow inequality.

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thinkorswim said:
Your post is nothing more than the opinion of a conservative economist at a conservative think tank, lacking any data or evidence.

The 2022 World Inequality Report looked back at decades of data and show that cutting taxes on the wealthy have markedly increased wealth inequality. They conclude that “inequality is not inevitable, it is a political choice” and advocate for “modest progressive taxes can generate significant revenues for governments…

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You must not be familiar with Thomas Sowell. He's worth looking in to a bit before you generically write him off on some assumed political ideology. My point in posting the short clip was simple-trickle down isn't a legitimate theory-and I posted one of the foremost experts in modern economics to support it. Your response with some long report doesn't mention trickle down once. So the point still stands.
 
tombreaz said:
You must not be familiar with Thomas Sowell. He's worth looking in to a bit before you generically write him off on some assumed political ideology. My point in posting the short clip was simple-trickle down isn't a legitimate theory-and I posted one of the foremost experts in modern economics to support it. Your response with some long report doesn't mention trickle down once. So the point still stands.
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Is this a joke or are you really that dense?

You post a video, again from a conservative think tank and lacking any substantive data, in which they say the term "trickle down economics" is a political catch-phrase and not an economic term. Then you turn around and complain that your Ctrl+F of that phrase doesn't turn up any results in an actual economic study which you are otherwise too lazy to actually read and learn from?

It is clear that discussing this any further with you will be a waste of time.
 
thinkorswim said:
Is this a joke or are you really that dense?

You post a video, again from a conservative think tank and lacking any substantive data, in which they say the term "trickle down economics" is a political catch-phrase and not an economic term. Then you turn around and complain that your Ctrl+F of that phrase doesn't turn up any results in an actual economic study which you are otherwise too lazy to actually read and learn from?

It is clear that discussing this any further with you will be a waste of time.
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No jokes here. You brought up a commonly used phrase that turns out not to be argued by economists. I pointed that out. You then responded with what I assumed would be something to show that trickle down economics is honestly argued. You didn't, so I responded to your lack of staying on topic. C'mon man, you really gotta think or swim 😉
 
tombreaz said:
No jokes here. You brought up a commonly used phrase that turns out not to be argued by economists. I pointed that out. You then responded with what I assumed would be something to show that trickle down economics is honestly argued. You didn't, so I responded to your lack of staying on topic. C'mon man, you really gotta think or swim 😉
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And I know it's hard these days but you shouldn't let someone's political persuasions preclude you from being able to see if what they're saying is true or not.

Thomas was a socialist for a good bit of his life even in grad school-so he's a pretty good source of having both sides of the conversation, to say the least.
 
nimbus said:
That’s it and the article is from Tampa.
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Ya, I think Ron seems to be doing the best job about speaking out against it compared to other government leaders.
 
tombreaz said:
And I know it's hard these days but you shouldn't let someone's political persuasions preclude you from being able to see if what they're saying is true or not.

Thomas was a socialist for a good bit of his life even in grad school-so he's a pretty good source of having both sides of the conversation, to say the least.
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Indeed from age 19, and throughout his PhD, Thomas Sowell was a Marxist, and yet Milton Friedman fought to get him a scholarship from one of the conservative foundations for the PhD, because of his intellectual capacity. He gave up on Marxism and became a conservative after working for the government in his first job after graduation.

His pedigree is Harvard/Columbia/Chicago School of Economics. Strongly recommended, for "both sides". Oldie, but a goldie. May he live long and prosper.
 
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FFP said:
Indeed from age 19, and throughout his PhD, Thomas Sowell was still a Marxist, and yet Milton Friedman fought to get him a scholarship from one of the conservative foundations for the PhD, because of his intellectual capacity. He gave up on Marxism and became a conservative after working for the government in his first job after graduation.

His pedigree is Harvard/Columbia/Chicago School of Economics. Strongly recommended, for "both sides". Oldie, but a goldie.
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Milton Friedman as Yoda and Thomas as Mace Windu. There's a YouTube debate where Milton is on stage versus three left-wing economists. Smiles and composed the whole time.
 
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