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There are a couple previous threads dedicated to this, but they are fairly outdated (about 7 years old). Granted, I know maybe not a TON has changed in 7 years, but let's not assume that there have not been changes.

I'm hopefully looking for responses from people who have A) applied to these residencies B) gotten into the residencies C) are currently in these residencies or D) have graduated from these residencies

*If you know people who you feel would be able to give quality contributions to this thread, please tag them.

1) Just how competitive are they? Everyone knows OMS is the most difficult to get into (save for the recent push from Pedo), but how many spots are there vs how many applicants? I found these stats from back in 2009-ish, but how about lately? Does anybody have numbers? Also, how often are people getting in straight from school??

ARMY - @AirborneDentist said in 5/2009 that the Army numbers were: 17 applications, 10 accepted (59%) with 50% coming straight from dental school.
AIR FORCE - @AFDDS said back in 5/2009 that that 2006 numbers were 5/12 accepted, 2007 was 5/8 and 2008 was 8/11
NAVY - ??

2) Are there any major differences in locations? Lackland vs Travis for AIR FORCE, Bethesda vs San Diego vs Portsmouth, VA for NAVY. I believe ARMY is only at Fort Gordon, GA, but correct me if I'm wrong.

3) Are people still working a minimum of 80 hours per week or have regulations limited it? I've got some friends in medical school now and they said there has been a push to limit the hours they work. Not sure if OMFS is the same in today's climate?

4) Along the same lines, what does a typical day look like? I saw a while back that @Truedat said people arrive between 0430 and 0600 and work until 1630 and then do rounds, study, lab work, paperwork, case presentations etc. until about 2000 or later. Is that about accurate - anybody experience something different?

4) Payback time is served CONCURRENTLY, right? So, anyone on the HPSP/HSCP would do the 4 years residency and then still owe only 4 years active duty once done.

5) If one starts paying on their dental school loans (if they weren't HPSP and say, HSCP) in the first year of residency, do all four years count towards Public Service Loan Forgiveness?

6) What's the best way to start an application on these residencies? If one is an HPSP or HSCP recipient, would it be recommended to touch base with the residency directors in their branch and talk about OMS or would that not make any sense?

7) Are there really any differences between the qualify of life OR training between the branches in these residencies and in practice afterward? The "general consensus" is that the quality of life goes in this order: Air Force, Navy, Army, but nobody has given specifics. Why do people feel that way? Also, are there any technologies or special focuses that you get in one branch that you don't in others?

That's all I can think of for now - others, feel free to post your questions too!

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I think you'll get better answers on the military sub forum.

forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/military-dentistry.178/
 
I think you'll get better answers on the military sub forum.

forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/military-dentistry.178/
Thanks - good point. Just duplicated it there in case.
 
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There are a couple previous threads dedicated to this, but they are fairly outdated (about 7 years old). Granted, I know maybe not a TON has changed in 7 years, but let's not assume that there have not been changes.

I'm hopefully looking for responses from people who have A) applied to these residencies B) gotten into the residencies C) are currently in these residencies or D) have graduated from these residencies

*If you know people who you feel would be able to give quality contributions to this thread, please tag them.

1) Just how competitive are they? Everyone knows OMS is the most difficult to get into (save for the recent push from Pedo), but how many spots are there vs how many applicants? I found these stats from back in 2009-ish, but how about lately? Does anybody have numbers? Also, how often are people getting in straight from school??

ARMY - @AirborneDentist said in 5/2009 that the Army numbers were: 17 applications, 10 accepted (59%) with 50% coming straight from dental school.
AIR FORCE - @AFDDS said back in 5/2009 that that 2006 numbers were 5/12 accepted, 2007 was 5/8 and 2008 was 8/11
NAVY - ??

2) Are there any major differences in locations? Lackland vs Travis for AIR FORCE, Bethesda vs San Diego vs Portsmouth, VA for NAVY. I believe ARMY is only at Fort Gordon, GA, but correct me if I'm wrong.

3) Are people still working a minimum of 80 hours per week or have regulations limited it? I've got some friends in medical school now and they said there has been a push to limit the hours they work. Not sure if OMFS is the same in today's climate?

4) Along the same lines, what does a typical day look like? I saw a while back that @Truedat said people arrive between 0430 and 0600 and work until 1630 and then do rounds, study, lab work, paperwork, case presentations etc. until about 2000 or later. Is that about accurate - anybody experience something different?

4) Payback time is served CONCURRENTLY, right? So, anyone on the HPSP/HSCP would do the 4 years residency and then still owe only 4 years active duty once done.

5) If one starts paying on their dental school loans (if they weren't HPSP and say, HSCP) in the first year of residency, do all four years count towards Public Service Loan Forgiveness?

6) What's the best way to start an application on these residencies? If one is an HPSP or HSCP recipient, would it be recommended to touch base with the residency directors in their branch and talk about OMS or would that not make any sense?

7) Are there really any differences between the qualify of life OR training between the branches in these residencies and in practice afterward? The "general consensus" is that the quality of life goes in this order: Air Force, Navy, Army, but nobody has given specifics. Why do people feel that way? Also, are there any technologies or special focuses that you get in one branch that you don't in others?

That's all I can think of for now - others, feel free to post your questions too!
I'll only address your quality of life question:Air force has the best facilities, but you can get stuck on an airbase in the middle of nowhere. Navy is always coastal. Portsmouth is a great area in virginia (and you can't beat San Diego:) . Bethesda is next to our nation's Capitol which is nice to explore but it is a little pricey to live there ( though your BHA will adjust based on your zip code). Walter Reed is a great facility if that's what youbarevthinking.

Army- facilities are "ok" and quality of life is "ok". Army is the biggest branch so lots of people to serve but also not always the best facility- defending where you are at. My experience at Ft Benning simply sucked. But that's just one place. Generally army is also in middle of nowhere so if you like more adventurous places, go navy. Air Force medicine is more corporate as their culture is more civilian-like than big Army's. All have beuracracy which I think is highest in big army. I have a buddy who is army dentist so if you're interested I can out you in touch with him. Army /navy you also have more chances of being PCS'ed to live overseas.
 
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Army OMS residencies are the following for 11 spots.

2 at JB Lewis-McCord (Seattle)
2 at Ft. Bragg, NC
2 at Bethesda/ Walter Reed - co-led residency with navy residents
2 at BAMC (San Antonio) - co-led residency with air force residents
1 at Ft. Gordon, GA
1 at Ft. Bliss, TX
1 at Tripler (Hawaii)
 
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