Official 2011-2012 IM "How To Rank" Thread

[mswq]

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So I have the top and bottom of my list figured out but I can't decide the middle part from the following programs:

USF vs. Temple vs. UKY vs. UMass

Please rank on academics and research opportunities only (I know about the locations)! Possibly interested in a fellowship (Cards/GI/Heme-Onc).

 

[jdh71]

So I have the top and bottom of my list figured out but I can't decide the middle part from the following programs:

USF vs. Temple vs. UKY vs. UMass

Please rank on academics and research opportunities only (I know about the locations)! Possibly interested in a fellowship (Cards/GI/Heme-Onc).

I think KY is probably the top of that little heap. The rest not much different - maybe temple a little higher. Though I like Tampa and USF got a big VA, and I like VAs. And while I'm sure Mass is an over fine program, the only direct information I have on their medicine programs wasn't glowing, more like . . . "meh I didn't hate it". So my rank probably would be something like

KY
USF
Temple
Mass

 

[Captopril]

I'm sorry if these kinds of posts are looked-down upon, but I really have nowhere else to go to ask...

I am having trouble ranking these 3 programs:

San Joaquin general
Kern County
UCSF Fresno

I know Kern and Fresno are both at least university affiliated (UCLA and UCSF, respectively) which helps since I am interested in fellowship...but I am from the bay area, so SJGH is a short drive away.

Sorry to bring down the "Help me decide btwn MGH vs JHU" feel of this forum, but I am a meager IMG n00b who needs a little help deciding where to spend the next 3 years.

Thanks in advance everyone.

 

[jdh71]

I'm sorry if these kinds of posts are looked-down upon, but I really have nowhere else to go to ask...

I am having trouble ranking these 3 programs:

San Joaquin general
Kern County
UCSF Fresno

I know Kern and Fresno are both at least university affiliated (UCLA and UCSF, respectively) which helps since I am interested in fellowship...but I am from the bay area, so SJGH is a short drive away.

Sorry to bring down the "Help me decide btwn MGH vs JHU" feel of this forum, but I am a meager IMG n00b who needs a little help deciding where to spend the next 3 years.

Thanks in advance everyone.

Exactly. Like whatever will they POSSIBLY do?!?

UCSF Fresno is supposed to be an alight spot, and if I recall correctly they DO have in house fellowships, so that may be the better way to go at the top of the list.

 

[nocturnal55]

between my prelim 1 and 2, the number 2 has shown more active interest in recruiting me to their program. it has been a pretty brutal iv season for me (very few interviews), and let's just say i am a pretty mediocre applicant this season. should this recruitment by program #2 sway my ranking of the programs or should be my ranking strictly be based on my personal decision of where i want to go?

 

[adagio]

between my prelim 1 and 2, the number 2 has shown more active interest in recruiting me to their program. it has been a pretty brutal iv season for me (very few interviews), and let's just say i am a pretty mediocre applicant this season. should this recruitment by program #2 sway my ranking of the programs or should be my ranking strictly be based on my personal decision of where i want to go?

base it on your personal decision

 

[KRichards62]

I just wanted to get people's thoughts/opinions. I'm having a tough time choosing between UCLA and MGH as my number one. Loved both programs. MGH has the bigger name behind it, but UCLA is closer to all my family and friends. I like the residents in both places and I know that both are "tougher" programs in the sense that you work a lot, which I'm fine with. Again, just wanted to get some opinions on "what would you do."

"Loved both programs" is an important statement. I certainly think being close to friends and family is worth considering but I would think VERY hard about potentially passing up an opportunity to train at MGH particularly if you "loved" the program. UCLA is great, but training at MGH can be a game changer, particularly if you remain unsure about what you want to do.

 

[MDapp06]

Hi All,

Just wondering if I can get some advice on how to rank the following programs...I am interested in pursuing a GI or Cardiology fellowship right after IM residency:

UC Irvine
U of Utah
U of Nebraska
U of Arkansas
U of Louisville
Rush
Loyola
U of Illinois - Peoria
Brown
Penn State
Tulane

Some factors in my decision are: which program will prepare me to be competitive applicant for GI or Cardiology fellowship, city with a lower cost of living, and a non-malignant environment. Any advice would be appreciated. Also, would you recommend doing a second look at any of these programs, particularly Brown or UC Irvine?

Thanks!

 

[Froz]

I liked so many programs, I thought I'd get a second opinion. What do people think? Listed alphabetically:

Boston University
Brown
Dartmouth
Montefiore
NS-LIJ
NYU
Stony Brook
Tufts
UMass
Vermont

Thanks for your help!

 

[TwoSandwiches]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoSandwiches
Long time reader, first time poster.

My list - please help me sort through it! I'd like to end up out west (never lived there, sick of the snow). National reputation is important to me (I'd like to do Heme/Onc), but not at the cost of a top-rate education. All in all, my interview days were variations on a theme - nice, generally happy people.

I've read through this thread, and one question I'd like answered is how nationally respected OHSU is. I didn't get a copy of their match list, and it's hard to get a sense. This is especially relative to UW/UCLA/Stanford/Colorado/UCSD

Question 2 - how does UCSD compare to the rest of the schools I listed?

Question 3 - I've seen threads from >1 year ago about Stanford being disorganized - where do people think it ranks nationally?

1. Stanford - Had a good interview day, everybody seemed happy, good match list, tons of research/international opportunities.

2. UCLA - ditto. Like bay > LA, but it's close.

3. OHSU - very nice PD, Portland's relaxed.

4. UW - other than being a big program, a lot like the rest.

5. UCSD - beautiful city.

Any and all thoughts appreciated. Thanks!
A1/A2: OHSU is a very well regarded program. UCSD and OHSU are probably about the same sitting at the bottom end of the top tier programs, meaning the probably fall somewhere after the top 15-20 programs in that 20-35 range depending on who you ask and how they're feeling about ranking that day.

A3: Stanford is an academic powerhouse. With awesome research potential in just about any subspecialty of medicine. Probably not a "top 10" spot but coming right in, right after. They are once of the more "selective" programs in who they invite based on what I've seen on these boards. A program like Stanford might run into some internal politics related to the academic leadership of the program at the university level, but that shouldn't really effect the house staff and training - it's freaking Stanford and they will sort it out and put great people in the right locations. I wouldn't worry about it, UNLESS you were planning to do basic science research with someone at Stanford and you just saw your potential research mentor bail.

End Quote.


Super, super helpful - thanks!

My last question is how you think UW, UCLA, and Stanford stack up against each other. Close?

 

[Captopril]

Exactly. Like whatever will they POSSIBLY do?!?

UCSF Fresno is supposed to be an alight spot, and if I recall correctly they DO have in house fellowships, so that may be the better way to go at the top of the list.

Awesome thanks. How about between SJGH and Kern? I'm inclined to rank SJGH higher just because it's close to home in the bay area, but I've heard Kern is a better program because of its UCLA affiliation. Thoughts??

 

[bananarepub]

I have no idea how to rank my programs, right now my top choices are wake forest, ucla olive, usc, loma linda does anyone have any ideas??

 

[Primus2]

I am trying to decide how to rank the following schools in the LA area: USC, Cedars-Sinai, and Olive View. I am interested in global health and policy. What are the opportunities for these at the following programs? I see that USC has a global health institute. As an IM resident are you able to take advantage of this?

If anyone has any insight into these programs regarding global health opportunities, I would appreciate it!

 

[timurx]

Thought id chime in with my list:

My top three are: UTSW, Vanderbilt and UPitt...i'm still a bit up in the air about the order of these three and like them all for different reasons..btw I did not particularly feel the "malignancy" of UTSW the way everyone makes it out to be--and really tried to tease that out during the interview day...

The remaining are in no particular order:

Jeff
Maryland
Baylor
UAB
GW
USC
Case Western

 

[brownsugarmd]

So I'd like a little advice with my categorical rank list, just to get some fresh perspectives. I'm leaning toward a cardiology fellowship in 3 years so certainly want to go somewhere that would make that jump easier, but I'd also like to be in a fun location and at a program with a good reputation. How would you guys rank these programs? Thanks guys!

Carolinas Medical Center
GWU
Georgia HSU
UAB
U Kentucky
U Louisville
USF
VCU
Wake Forest
Washington Hospital Center

 

[mccards]

Hi everyone,

I'm an IM applicant wanting to go to cards and would like your opinion on how you would rank the following programs considering prestige and actual training one would receive and not location of city etc...

In no particular order.
Cornell
Mayo
Baylor
Yale
Cedars
UC Irvine
USC
CPMC

Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[UofM527]

Hi everyone,

I'm an IM applicant wanting to go to cards and would like your opinion on how you would rank the following programs considering prestige and actual training one would receive and not location of city etc...

In no particular order.
Cornell
Mayo
Baylor
Yale
Cedars
UC Irvine
USC
CPMC

Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks!

Def have some nice choices there, and I think you're really stretching things to separate out those middle groups, and in reality you probably are not going to gain/lose much of anything between them, but I think you could try something like this:

Cornell = Mayo (if location really doesn't matter) = Yale
Baylor
Cedars = UCI = USC
CPMC

 

[Instatewaiter]

Thought id chime in with my list:

My top three are: UTSW, Vanderbilt and UPitt...i'm still a bit up in the air about the order of these three and like them all for different reasons..btw I did not particularly feel the "malignancy" of UTSW the way everyone makes it out to be--and really tried to tease that out during the interview day...

The remaining are in no particular order:

Jeff
Maryland
Baylor
UAB
GW
USC
Case Western

Vandy= UTSW
Pitt
------
UAB
Baylor
Maryland= or maybe > Jeff
USC
GW

Not sure where to put case

So I'd like a little advice with my categorical rank list, just to get some fresh perspectives. I'm leaning toward a cardiology fellowship in 3 years so certainly want to go somewhere that would make that jump easier, but I'd also like to be in a fun location and at a program with a good reputation. How would you guys rank these programs? Thanks guys!

Carolinas Medical Center
GWU
Georgia HSU
UAB
U Kentucky
U Louisville
USF
VCU
Wake Forest
Washington Hospital Center

UAB
Wake
GT/Wash hospital center >VCU (just because you want to do cards, otherwise I'd put VCU over GT)
Kentuky = louisville (not sure on these programs)
GW

Dont know where to put USF

Hi everyone,

I'm an IM applicant wanting to go to cards and would like your opinion on how you would rank the following programs considering prestige and actual training one would receive and not location of city etc...

In no particular order.
Cornell
Mayo
Baylor
Yale
Cedars
UC Irvine
USC
CPMC

Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks!

Cornell
Yale
Mayo
Baylor
Others

 

[mdmd2012]

Hey everyone,
Hope the process is working out for everyone.

I was wondering if anyone have insights into the primary care track programs/experiences in IM residency programs? The quality seem to vary a lot by program and would appreciate if anyone knows anything about them (see list below).

Also, would appreciate comments on these programs and how to rank them (& based on what criteria)

-Montefiore (primary care/social medicine, categorical) - heard it's busy. but do they teach? & what % of work is scut work?
-Temple
-Univ. of Rochester
-Stony Brook
-Univ. of Maryland
-U conn
-Robert Wood
-North Shore-LIJ
-Cooper Univ.
-Downstate

Thanks in advance!

 

[francisco84]

Vandy= UTSW


UAB
Wake
GT/Wash hospital center >VCU (just because you want to do cards, otherwise I'd put VCU over GT)
Kentuky = louisville (not sure on these programs)
GW

Dont know where to put USF

GT =/= WHC. WHC is a community affiliate of GT and GT residents rotate through there but WHC is a terrible IM program. Good for cards fellowship. GT is so-so for getting into cards and it's only advantage over VCU is its link to WHC, otherwise I'd put VCU's fellowship match list up against GT

 

[redwings54]

How would you all rank the following programs? Just trying to get some idea. Mostly community programs with a mix of university programs. They are alphabetically listed. Thanks.

• Jersey Shore University Medical Center
• Lehigh Valley
• Maine Medical Center
• Penn State Hershey
• SUNY Buffalo Sister
• West Virginia University
• York Hospital

 

[Gigi333]

w

 

[Velo75]

Hey guys, I like all of these cities almost equally so really the question is which one best prepares me for being a hospitalist, which is my career choice

If not that, then reputation

Tennessee
Virginia Mason
Case Western
UAB
Wake Forest
Kentucky
Ohio State U.
Cleveland Clinic
VCU
U of Virginia
Indiana University

Thanks in advance!

 

[jdh71]

Hi All,

Just wondering if I can get some advice on how to rank the following programs...I am interested in pursuing a GI or Cardiology fellowship right after IM residency:

UC Irvine
U of Utah
U of Nebraska
U of Arkansas
U of Louisville
Rush
Loyola
U of Illinois - Peoria
Brown
Penn State
Tulane

Some factors in my decision are: which program will prepare me to be competitive applicant for GI or Cardiology fellowship, city with a lower cost of living, and a non-malignant environment. Any advice would be appreciated. Also, would you recommend doing a second look at any of these programs, particularly Brown or UC Irvine?

Thanks!

Maybe like this . . .

U of Utah
UC Irvine = U of Louisville = Brown
Tulane = Rush = Loyola = U of Nebraska
U of Arkansas = Penn State
U of Illinois - Peoria

Hard to know about the "malignant environment", but doubt any really are. We had a guy on here bitching at Arkansas about a year ago, but he sounded more disgruntled that actually telling about how bad it was there. Second looks are a way to show interest and could potentially help you out. I'm not sure I'd go to both, but I guess if you can afford it and have time . . . I kind of like Brown better of the two based on what I know about both places.

 

[jdh71]

I liked so many programs, I thought I'd get a second opinion. What do people think? Listed alphabetically:

Boston University
Brown
Dartmouth
Montefiore
NS-LIJ
NYU
Stony Brook
Tufts
UMass
Vermont

Thanks for your help!

I'd probably shake them out like this - don't know enough about the bottom two to comment

Dartmouth = NYU
Vermont = Brown
Boston University
Montefiore = Tufts
UMass

?NS-LIJ
?Stony Brook

 

[jdh71]

My last question is how you think UW, UCLA, and Stanford stack up against each other. Close?

Yeah . . . close enough that it won't matter too much. I'd put UW in the top 10, and UCLA and Stanford in that next 11-20. They are all basically top tier but ranked within that tier, I'd probably go . . .

UW
Stanford
UCLA

 

[jdh71]

Awesome thanks. How about between SJGH and Kern? I'm inclined to rank SJGH higher just because it's close to home in the bay area, but I've heard Kern is a better program because of its UCLA affiliation. Thoughts??

No real thoughts. Go with the one you like best there. I don't think it will matter that much either way. Rank the program you like best.

 

[jdh71]

I have no idea how to rank my programs, right now my top choices are wake forest, ucla olive, usc, loma linda does anyone have any ideas??

USC
Wake
LLU
OV

 

[jdh71]

Thought id chime in with my list:

My top three are: UTSW, Vanderbilt and UPitt...i'm still a bit up in the air about the order of these three and like them all for different reasons..btw I did not particularly feel the "malignancy" of UTSW the way everyone makes it out to be--and really tried to tease that out during the interview day...

The remaining are in no particular order:

Jeff
Maryland
Baylor
UAB
GW
USC
Case Western

UAB
Baylor
Maryland
USC = Case Western
Jeff
GW

 

[jdh71]

So I'd like a little advice with my categorical rank list, just to get some fresh perspectives. I'm leaning toward a cardiology fellowship in 3 years so certainly want to go somewhere that would make that jump easier, but I'd also like to be in a fun location and at a program with a good reputation. How would you guys rank these programs? Thanks guys!

Carolinas Medical Center
GWU
Georgia HSU
UAB
U Kentucky
U Louisville
USF
VCU
Wake Forest
Washington Hospital Center

UAB
VCU
U Kentucky
Wake Forest
U Louisville = USF
the rest

 

[jdh71]

Hi everyone,

I'm an IM applicant wanting to go to cards and would like your opinion on how you would rank the following programs considering prestige and actual training one would receive and not location of city etc...

In no particular order.
Cornell
Mayo
Baylor
Yale
Cedars
UC Irvine
USC
CPMC

Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks!

Cornell
Mayo
Yale
Baylor
USC
Cedars
UC Irvine
CPMC

 

[DreamingTheLive]

jdh,

Strong work.

 

[ohsekw]

Thanks in part to this board, most of my rank list is nailed down. Big thanks to you guys (esp jdh, gutonc) for the perspective. I am having trouble assigning an order to OHSU, BIDMC, and Yale as things wrap up, thought I'd see if I could get any thoughts on some specific concerns.

OHSU -- Nice residents/faculty, I'm okay with a heavily West Coast match list. Love the Northwest and all of the outdoor recreation there. (Big cyclist.) HOWEVER... Portland seems like a tiny town with high underemployment for adults in their 20s/30s
? Kind of concerned about being single in Portland and finding someone like-minded
? Is the prestige differential between Yale/BIDMC and here enough to matter?

BIDMC -- Got a good vibe, don't know much about living in Boston but people seem to like it. Was exhausted on my interview day and wish I had retained more.
? Given that the two other Harvard hospitals are MGH and BWH, is BID or its residents looked down on at all? I know NOTHING about the East Coast or any of these places, so just not sure about that dynamic
? In the same vein -- How good is BID? As good as somewhere like Penn? Better than Yale or OHSU? Thoughts?

Yale -- New Haven seems like it could become an AWFULLY small place after 3y... ? Thoughts on New Haven?
? And again, is it comparable to Penn, or Columbia, or UCLA?

Thanks dudes.

 

[jdh71]

Thanks in part to this board, most of my rank list is nailed down. Big thanks to you guys (esp jdh, gutonc) for the perspective. I am having trouble assigning an order to OHSU, BIDMC, and Yale as things wrap up, thought I'd see if I could get any thoughts on some specific concerns.

OHSU -- Nice residents/faculty, I'm okay with a heavily West Coast match list. Love the Northwest and all of the outdoor recreation there. (Big cyclist.) HOWEVER... Portland seems like a tiny town with high underemployment for adults in their 20s/30s
? Kind of concerned about being single in Portland and finding someone like-minded
? Is the prestige differential between Yale/BIDMC and here enough to matter?

BIDMC -- Got a good vibe, don't know much about living in Boston but people seem to like it. Was exhausted on my interview day and wish I had retained more.
? Given that the two other Harvard hospitals are MGH and BWH, is BID or its residents looked down on at all? I know NOTHING about the East Coast or any of these places, so just not sure about that dynamic
? In the same vein -- How good is BID? As good as somewhere like Penn? Better than Yale or OHSU? Thoughts?

Yale -- New Haven seems like it could become an AWFULLY small place after 3y... ? Thoughts on New Haven?
? And again, is it comparable to Penn, or Columbia, or UCLA?

Thanks dudes.

I'd say OHSU, Yale, and BID are all in generally the same league. We could all quibble about relative rank in that league, but I'm not sure it's helpful.

OHSU is a nice program, in a nice city, in a city part of the world. The unemployment rate for all 20-30's sucks really bad right now, and I didn't think the town was THAT "tiny", but you're right it's not a huge city. Eh. I think being single there would be fun. I've met a few girls from Oregon and I liked them!

BID is kind of like BW and MGH's step brother. Yes, it's still a Harvard program, but it's kind of known as the "other" Harvard program, but I don't really think you lose out on that much, and it seems like the pace of life is more manageable. All in all a very nice program and location is good if you like a more urban setting, you can't get much worse than BID. They kind of remind of the NWern of the east.

Yale is a good medicine program with a good match list. New Haven is a **** hole and will continue to be a **** hole and you will get tired of it. With that said, I think it's such a nice program that if you liked it best, you could put up with the surrounding environs. I've got a staff from Yale and asked him about it, and he confirms what I've said. If you like the program better, no reason not to rank them above the others.

 

[gutonc]

Thanks in part to this board, most of my rank list is nailed down. Big thanks to you guys (esp jdh, gutonc) for the perspective. I am having trouble assigning an order to OHSU, BIDMC, and Yale as things wrap up, thought I'd see if I could get any thoughts on some specific concerns.

OHSU -- Nice residents/faculty, I'm okay with a heavily West Coast match list. Love the Northwest and all of the outdoor recreation there. (Big cyclist.) HOWEVER... Portland seems like a tiny town with high underemployment for adults in their 20s/30s
? Kind of concerned about being single in Portland and finding someone like-minded
? Is the prestige differential between Yale/BIDMC and here enough to matter?

BIDMC -- Got a good vibe, don't know much about living in Boston but people seem to like it. Was exhausted on my interview day and wish I had retained more.
? Given that the two other Harvard hospitals are MGH and BWH, is BID or its residents looked down on at all? I know NOTHING about the East Coast or any of these places, so just not sure about that dynamic
? In the same vein -- How good is BID? As good as somewhere like Penn? Better than Yale or OHSU? Thoughts?

Yale -- New Haven seems like it could become an AWFULLY small place after 3y... ? Thoughts on New Haven?
? And again, is it comparable to Penn, or Columbia, or UCLA?

Thanks dudes.

BI and Yale are certainly better known...largely because one of them is Harvard (sorta) and the other one is frickin' Yale. And they're both on the East Coast where (as we all know) your s**t don't stink. If you're a prestige *****, that might make a difference in your life. Or...if you want to go East for a fellowship, it might be helpful (although I got more prestigious NE fellowship interviews than I could handle and I'm no superstar).

Location-wise: Portland >>Boston>>>>>>>>>>>> (I think I just broke the >...oh, nevermind, there it is) >>>>> New Haven.

Training-wise: They're probably enough the same that it will make no significant difference between the three. None of them are Penn or Columbia (thank Jeebus) but they're all more than fine.

 

[gold&black2005]

I'd say OHSU, Yale, and BID are all in generally the same league. We could all quibble about relative rank in that league, but I'm not sure it's helpful.

OHSU is a nice program, in a nice city, in a city part of the world. The unemployment rate for all 20-30's sucks really bad right now, and I didn't think the town was THAT "tiny", but you're right it's not a huge city. Eh. I think being single there would be fun. I've met a few girls from Oregon and I liked them!

BID is kind of like BW and MGH's step brother. Yes, it's still a Harvard program, but it's kind of known as the "other" Harvard program, but I don't really think you lose out on that much, and it seems like the pace of life is more manageable. All in all a very nice program and location is good if you like a more urban setting, you can't get much worse than BID. They kind of remind of the NWern of the east.

Yale is a good medicine program with a good match list. New Haven is a **** hole and will continue to be a **** hole and you will get tired of it. With that said, I think it's such a nice program that if you liked it best, you could put up with the surrounding environs. I've got a staff from Yale and asked him about it, and he confirms what I've said. If you like the program better, no reason not to rank them above the others.

only thing I'd add in response to your last question on each program - I'd say UCLA is even with these guys and Penn is a slight step up - in my view, Penn's a super elite program. Not as convinced about Columbia...yes, it's in NYC, which makes for a more competitive match - but it comes with a price. If you're a budding cardiologist, I'd say Columbia would be an upgrade over yale/bi/ucla...but otherwise I'm just not convinced.

If the program style you like is ohsu/yale/bi...then penn is prob a more ideal fit, methinks

 

[Instatewaiter]

GT =/= WHC. WHC is a community affiliate of GT and GT residents rotate through there but WHC is a terrible IM program. Good for cards fellowship. GT is so-so for getting into cards and it's only advantage over VCU is its link to WHC, otherwise I'd put VCU's fellowship match list up against GT

First, let me prefice this by saying I went to VCU for med school and have lots of love for VCU. Me and Gold&Black are probably the reason that VCU is getting such high regard on this forum. We repped hard

Let me share my thoughts:
Looking at their cards fellowship match, it seems WHC doesn't do that bad, trufts, texas, minnesota, WHC. Plus WHC isnt a half bad cards program- it has great volume . While I agree, for IM training VCU would be vastly superior, specifically for cards... I don't know. I was very underwhelmed with the cards training you got in general IM at VCU and the cards fellowship isnt bad there but also not great. So if even at all undecided I say VCU but for 100% cards maybe WHC just because of the in with WHC

 

[lebanese]

Hi everyone
I have done my interviews and currently ranking, but I have difficulty ranking these three programs. Which is stronger? what are the good and bad aspects of each?
I really appreciate any feedback
Thanks

 

[pntgrd]

UAB and UTSW are both top tier programs. CU is fine but not in the same tier.

 

[Velo75]

Hey guys, I like all of these cities almost equally so really the question is which one best prepares me for being a hospitalist, which is my career choice

If not that, then reputation alone is fine

Tennessee
Virginia Mason
Case Western
UAB
Wake Forest
Kentucky
Ohio State U.
Cleveland Clinic
VCU
U of Virginia
Indiana University

Thanks in advance!

Any takers? Thanks again

 

[vertigotastic]

Hey guys, I'd appreciate some help with my situation!

I am couples matching, however, due to the competitiveness of my significant other's specialty we only got 3 locations where we'd be able to be together.

My question is, will it affect my opportunities for fellowship and being involved in academic medicine if I trained in UMass or UConn vs. Rush, UVA ?

We have in common, UMass, UConn (on my end, he has another great Institution in CT) and our home Institution. If I matched at Rush or UVA and he at his other Institutions, we wouldn't be close.

We already decided on our first option. But now it's a matter of deciding where I'd like my #2, #3, #4, to be. The rest will fall into place after that decision.

Thanks !

 

[ut2012im]

Hey all, I have most of my list finalized, but I'm having some trouble deciding Baylor vs. UAB. I'm definitely set on cardiology. UAB seemed like the stronger IM program on the interview day, but I liked Baylor as well (and the THI affiliation is definitely attractive). Houston > Birmingham IMHO, but I have family near both places. I'm basically trying to get a sense if training at UAB over Baylor (or vice versa) would help keep more doors open, especially if I want to move to a different region of the country for fellowship. I might just be splitting hairs at this point, but I figure I'd throw it out to SDN if anyone has inside knowledge of these programs. Thanks!

 

[gutonc]

Hi everyone
I have done my interviews and currently ranking, but I have difficulty ranking these three programs. Which is stronger? what are the good and bad aspects of each?
I really appreciate any feedback
Thanks

They're pretty much all equal to a first approximation. They have different strengths and weaknesses but they all have excellent reputations. Rank them how you liked them, you'll be fine no matter which one you end up at.

 

[gutonc]

Hey all, I have most of my list finalized, but I'm having some trouble deciding Baylor vs. UAB. I'm definitely set on cardiology. UAB seemed like the stronger IM program on the interview day, but I liked Baylor as well (and the THI affiliation is definitely attractive). Houston > Birmingham IMHO, but I have family near both places. I'm basically trying to get a sense if training at UAB over Baylor (or vice versa) would help keep more doors open, especially if I want to move to a different region of the country for fellowship. I might just be splitting hairs at this point, but I figure I'd throw it out to SDN if anyone has inside knowledge of these programs. Thanks!

This. You're not going to do yourself a major disservice if you wind up at either of those places. I'd probably give UAB a slight edge but not so much that you should rank it higher if you really liked Baylor more.

 

[raj007ml]

Any inputs on University of Arizona Categorical program? Thanks

 

[obiwan]

Hi everyone
I have done my interviews and currently ranking, but I have difficulty ranking these three programs. Which is stronger? what are the good and bad aspects of each?
I really appreciate any feedback
Thanks

UTSW > UAB = Colorado

I would say UTSW and UAB probably have the same feel

 

[kirkland1984]

If you completely disregard the location factor, how would you rank these programs?

colorado
ohsu
brown
boston university

no particular interest in sub-specialty yet.

 

[taboda]

Was hoping for some insight.I am stuck. I am currently trying to decide between these 4 programs - Wash U, Vanderbilt, U of Wash and Colorado.
I am about 90% sure my heart lies in hospital medicine and I was very intrigued by the Leaders Track of the hospitalist pathway at Colorado. I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice regarding this pathway and any possible advantages of it versus going to the other three programs on my list that from what I have seem many on this forum consider a teir above CU?
Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[DrVanNostran]

If you completely disregard the location factor, how would you rank these programs?

colorado
ohsu
brown
boston university

no particular interest in sub-specialty yet.

IMO. CU=OHSU>BU>Brown

I only visited OHSU and loved it. I hear great things about CU though, g luck!

 

[DrVanNostran]

So here is the million dollar question, how far down the rank list do people typically fall? One of the PDs at an interview mentioned 80% in the top 2, 95% in the top 5.