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*up until rank lists are due (1/10?), not match day (1/17)Yes up until match day
*up until rank lists are due (1/10?), not match day (1/17)Yes up until match day
Mb, that’s what I meant to say, yes*up until rank lists are due (1/10?), not match day (1/17)
Plan to match -- your odds are great with 10 interviews.I had ~10 interviews. When should I start reaching out to programs for a non-cat position? After match day?
Do you take your non cats?Hello everyone,
From TUFTS OMFS, best of luck to all those who applied!
Check this thread below for our non-categorical intern position:
We are definitely open to that! One of our current residents was the non-categorical here, and historically the people that actually pursued a career in OMFS were able to Match.Do you take your non cats?
Time for the annual bedtime post—may your dreams be peaceful and your luck fully charged for the morning showdown!
Match Eve poem by Mrs. Scarn
tWas the night before match day and all through the house
Not an applicant was sleeping, not even their spouse.
All the rank lists were numbered, submitted with care,
in the hopes that school "number one" soon would be theirs.
Hopefuls everywhere nestled snug in their beds,
while visions of third molars danced in their heads.
And me in my scrubs, i turned off the light,
and settled myself in for the world's longest night.
When from my iPhone there came such a clatter,
i sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the charger I ran in a dash; the screen came alive in a brilliant white flash.
The box on the screen blinked to notify me
It had just received an email that I needed to see.
And what to my wondering eyes should appear
but a subject line saying omfs match finally here!
In a rush of adrenaline, my patience was gone.
I'm done with this waiting, let the match bring it on!
As true as sdn my confidence came, and I whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
Now parkland! Now, Vanderbilt! Now, San Antonio or Unc!
On, Baylor! On, Oregon! On, Florida or Kentucky!
To my life's next six years! Now don't make me wait!
Now bring it on! Tell me! Show me my fate!
As if in slow motion, the email opened up.
My eyes scanned the page, my fingers crossed for luck.
In confusion I searched, come on, what's the catch?
And then, in awful clarity, the words, "you did not match".
My body went limp, eyes rolled back in my head.
My life flashed before my eyes. I fell back on the bed.
My throat was closing in! My lungs found no air!
My hands clawed my throat, and ripped out my hair!
This just couldn't be right! Was my mind playing tricks?
Could I really go on? Add another year to six?!
What had I done wrong? What qualities did I lack?
I must run far away and never come back!
"No, no!" moaned my voice in an unearthly tone.
I was ruined, defeated... The match had won!
I writhed in my misery, sweat soaking my scrubs.
I pled for some assistance, some help from above!
I opened my eyes to a glimmer of light, the clock on my nightstand showing midnight.
I bolted up straight, and off the bed I fell.
Somehow I had slept-and dreamed myself into hell!
I gasped for a breath, I reached for my phone.
No new messages! The email from hades was gone!
I laugh in hysterics, I feel I could dance! My fate yet undecided! I have another chance!
The night is still young. Several hours remain,
enough for at least 10 more nightmares of the same.
My pulse starts to slow, my head is finally clear.
There's still 6 dreaded hours until match day is here!
It’s 8pm somewhere 😉Bro it’s 8am
Usually around noonPraying last few hours. Will the non match program list be out tomorrow?
When do match results come out what time
Can you post the unmatched list?Gotta love that MGH went unmatched 2 for 3 🤣 finally people starting to realize that the Harvard MD doesn't mean **** in OMFS and how bad of a program our school really is, love it. The masses are woke!
knowing this website, i am sure this list will be responded to with logic and reasonPost match positions
FL, Jacksonville
University of Florida Health - Jacksonville
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 122312 Positions: 1
GA, Atlanta
Emory University
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 111212 Positions: 2
LA, Shreveport
Louisiana State University- Shreveport
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 122211 Positions: 1
MA, Boston
Massachusetts General Hospital
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 117511 Positions: 2
MD, Baltimore
University of Maryland
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 112311 Positions: 2
MI, Warren
Ascension Macomb-Oakland Hospital
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 117811 Positions: 2
MO, Kansas City
University of Missouri/Truman Medical Center
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 113111 Positions: 1
NC, Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 113911 Positions: 1
NY, Buffalo
State University of New York at Buffalo
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 113611 Positions: 1
NY, New Hyde Park
Long Island Jewish Medical Center
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 119211 Positions: 1
NY, New York
Harlem Hospital Center
OMS-4 YR
Code: 119311 Positions: 1
NY, New York
Mount Sinai/Jacobi/Einstein College of Med
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 115111 Positions: 1
OH, Cleveland
Case Western Reserve University
OMS-5 YR-MD REQD
Code: 114011 Positions: 2
TN, Knoxville
University of Tennessee Med Ctr - Knoxville
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 121112 Positions: 2
TN, Nashville
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
OMS-6 YR-MD REQD
Code: 121211 Positions: 1
Sorry you didn’t get an interviewGotta love that MGH went unmatched 2 for 3 🤣 finally people starting to realize that the Harvard MD doesn't mean **** in OMFS and how bad of a program our school really is, love it. The masses are woke!
Actually most of us that interviewed ranked it 10-15+ 🙂hence.... 2/3 unmatched my friend. Just tired of this narrative within ivy league dental students that choose to go to programs based on clout and school name and not actual clinical experience. But hey, to each their own I will agree.Sorry you didn’t get an interview
There’s a pinned thread on thishey! If any of you know of programs looking for non-categorical interns at this time, please post them
found it, thank you!There’s a pinned thread on this
I was shocked. Have you guys heard of anything negative about Case that would’ve chased people away?Think Case just got unlucky. A lot of people on the trail had them high but not 1. Think they also are more selective they didn’t rank enough of their interviewees. Those spots will fill quick
There seems to be a trend of programs not ranking enough of the people who interviewed, expecting that since they’ve been successful in the past that they can be picky with their rank lists. Many great programs over the last few years with unfilled spots that don’t make sense.I was shocked. Have you guys heard of anything negative about Case that would’ve chased people away?
I think you’re right that a lot of applicants had us near the top of their list (spoke with a couple who had us #2 or #3), but those applicants were lucky enough to match at their #1.
And my guess is that we probably didn’t rank enough of the people we interviewed, but idk 🤷♂️ we (the residents) aren’t involved with the rank list, so I’m not sure what happened.
If you went unmatched and have a good CBSE score, definitely get in touch with Case. We have a good group of residents and a great program setup.
In addition that PD is barely there, and the rest of week, he is devoted to his private practice that he takes his resident there to help him, “ cosmetic rotation” he says! I say it is free labor!I mean dude you just posted all of these things about your program right before rank lists were due:
I don’t think this is helping with attracting applicants lol. No offense.
If I read those things as an applicant, I would be hesitant to rank Case #1.
Michigan is 31 months lol, we train exceptional surgeons half of whom go onto fellowship and become leaders in the field. It’s about quality of training and who your teachers are, not quantityIn addition that PD is barely there, and the rest of week, he is devoted to his private practice that he takes his resident there to help him, “ cosmetic rotation” he says! I say it is free labor!
everyone thought 5 years is a good thing yet you end up with 32 months of OS! Idk how good is that.
Leaders in the field, historically, yes! I will leave it at thatMichigan is 31 months lol, we train exceptional surgeons half of whom go onto fellowship and become leaders in the field. It’s about quality of training and who your teachers are, not quantitymi
Or 41 months of med school/ gen surgery before doing plastic ?Michigan is 31 months lol, we train exceptional surgeons half of whom go onto fellowship and become leaders in the field. It’s about quality of training and who your teachers are, not quantity
I definitely agree with what's said here. As an applicant that interviewed at some of these unmatched programs, I felt that my interviewee peer pool was way too small at some of the programs that went unmatched.There seems to be a trend of programs not ranking enough of the people who interviewed, expecting that since they’ve been successful in the past that they can be picky with their rank lists. Many great programs over the last few years with unfilled spots that don’t make sense.
It’s also very apparent that most of the unfilled spots in past year belong to MD-integrated programs. The obvious factors being cost, length of training, and medical school selectivity, but this is also something that needs to be addressed. These are a fantastic set of programs that believe in OMF surgeons having a broader medical knowledge, yet are not successfully filling their spots in the match.
It’s frankly sad that we have such an unbelievable specialty, plenty of interest with hundreds of applicants, and yet every year programs are stunned when it seems like no one wanted to match to them. The interest is there - program chairs just need to critically reevaluate their interviewing and ranking strategies (in addition to the separate issue of medical schools reducing the burden of cost of attendence).
Aaaaand here we go 🤣 why, why is there always gotta be one in the bunch 🤪Looks like a revolt against the trend towards 6 year predominance…. 4 year brethren rise up
Can you name programs that are great on culture, training, and help offset the cost? I know few west cost programs, but not sure of east coast, and southern programs.Oof ⬆️…with that all said. I do know Case medical school is very, very expensive. I’m paying 27k for 2 years of med school (the program pays for the majority of the costs) and get a partial stipend while in med school. I really hope more programs consider doing something like this. One other thing to consider, Case does not pay there non-cats…I don’t know…that bothers me…,in my mind, it’s wrong that a program would do that…non-cat folks are still part of the team. I interpret that a certain way maybe others might too. There are programs out there that have a great culture, great training, and pay/help offset costs. I never see these types of programs going unfilled.
PD 🙂 The chair and the faculties are aware of him being hardly there. Still his expectation on CBSE and USMLE Step 1 is insane.In addition that PD is barely there, and the rest of week, he is devoted to his private practice that he takes his resident there to help him, “ cosmetic rotation” he says! I say it is free labor!
everyone thought 5 years is a good thing yet you end up with 32 months of OS! Idk how good is that.
Texas A&M. We are paid all 6 years. Med school tuition is only 18K. No ENT/Plastics residencies so we get great training as well. One of our interns already has over 100 sedations.Can you name programs that are great on culture, training, and help offset the cost? I know few west cost programs, but not sure of east coast, and southern programs.
Wow!!Texas A&M. We are paid all 6 years. Med school tuition is only 18K. No ENT/Plastics residencies so we get great training as well. One of our interns already has over 100 sedations.
I think all Texas programs (and southern programs in general) have affordable medical schools and get good training. Can’t comment on their culture though.
But wasn’t he a non cat?Texas A&M. We are paid all 6 years. Med school tuition is only 18K. No ENT/Plastics residencies so we get great training as well. One of our interns already has over 100 sedations.
I think all Texas programs (and southern programs in general) have affordable medical schools and get good training. Can’t comment on their culture though.