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On my transcript there are some courses that show up as 0 points. Like say I have Bio 1001 for 4 points, and then right under it also says Bio 1015 for 0 points. I don't know why my school does this, but when entering this into courses on AMCAS, can I just leave out these 0 point courses?
 
If I took my final course needed to graduate the summer immediately following spring of my senior year (2016), should this be entered as the year of my senior year (2015-2016) or the following school year (2016-2017)? Given that AMCAS puts summer as the first term.
1) use following year 2016-2017
2) in terms of GPA it wont matter as it will be calculated as senior
 
On my transcript there are some courses that show up as 0 points. Like say I have Bio 1001 for 4 points, and then right under it also says Bio 1015 for 0 points. I don't know why my school does this, but when entering this into courses on AMCAS, can I just leave out these 0 point courses?

put everything down EXACTLY as on transcript
 
Very minor, anxiety-provoked question: when entering information for letters of recommendation recommenders, "Title" is optional (while name, address are not.) Some of my professors (people who gave me grades in classes on my college transcript) have official titles other than professor, like Adjunct Project Scientist and Lecturer (for a professor who is only a teaching professor.) I'm considering just not adding those titles on there since it's optional; they'll have their preferred titles at the bottoms of their letters anyways. Is this an issue?

Thanks for the insight!
 
Very minor, anxiety-provoked question: when entering information for letters of recommendation recommenders, "Title" is optional (while name, address are not.) Some of my professors (people who gave me grades in classes on my college transcript) have official titles other than professor, like Adjunct Project Scientist and Lecturer (for a professor who is only a teaching professor.) I'm considering just not adding those titles on there since it's optional; they'll have their preferred titles at the bottoms of their letters anyways. Is this an issue?

Thanks for the insight!
Just put professor
 
Is it necessary for letters of recommendation to be updated for reapplicants? I have some new letters and an old letter that will be updated with new information, but I also have 2 old letters that are from people I haven’t worked worked with lately.
 
I worked as a TA for 2 years. Should i list it as a continuous experience (Sep 2017-June 2019) or should I split it up using the "repeated" function and list it as (Sep 2017-June 2018 and Sep 2018- June 2019) since I didn't do it over the summer.

Also, for contact title, the instructor's official title was a lecturer, not a professor. How should I list their title?
 
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I worked as a TA for 2 years. Should i list it as a continuous experience (Sep 2017-June 2019) or should I split it up using the "repeated" function and list it as (Sep 2017-June 2018 and Sep 2018- June 2019) since I didn't do it over the summer.

Also, for contact title, the instructor's official title was a lecturer, not a professor. How should I list their title?
Repeat
Lecturer
 
Is it necessary for letters of recommendation to be updated for reapplicants? I have some new letters and an old letter that will be updated with new information, but I also have 2 old letters that are from people I haven’t worked worked with lately.
Ask them to update letters
 
@Fullsend97
Disadvantaged generally means that you had economic hardship from age 0-18 (up through HS graduation) that put you behind your peers upon arriving in college. This could include living in poverty, receiving government assistance (subsidized housing, subsidized or free school lunches, supplemental nutrition assistance "SNAP"), working to support your family while in HS (paying for utilities, rent, essential clothing). It could mean attending poorly resources schools that lack laboratories, libraries, and gymnasiums. It could mean growing up in poverty in a rural area without access to facilities or in a dangerous urban area where it was unsafe to travel after dark.

Disadvantaged status does not, at least in my mind, stretch to explain your poor grades in college due to your mother's fatal illness.

If you want to explain that you were disadvantaged because your family got by on 30-40K/yr in Canada because your mom was unable to work, you could make that case but you need to tie how that low income put you at a disadvantage in comparison to your peer group.
Thanks for the help. Yeah I guess that makes me non-disadvantaged, more of something I will discuss in personal statement maybe. Thanks alot though
 
How to list multiple publications on AMCAS? Should I make a different entry for each one? The problem is that they only let you put in one date.
 
@gonnif Quick question regarding entering schools on AMCAS. I went to a junior college when I was in high school for a class during the summer. Should I click the "summer school only" option when entering the school or should I enter the time frame that I attended the school?
 
I would call AMCAS as I think you may be filling out the wrong year. Double check

Thank you, I got this problem fixed! Could you advice on when is the latest one can re-take the MCAT and still be on time/on the early side for MD? I'm submitting June 6th with a 511, re-take is projected to be in the 518-521 range. Have a sub-par score on one of the sections. Is June 28 too late? There are no other openings, so the alternate option would be to not take it and save the $400 if it would actually hurt my application to just have it sitting there
 
Also do you recommend adding everything from college on it that's relevant? I graduated 4 years ago and did a TON of stuff in college but it's all anywhere from 8-4 years ago. Thoughts?
 
I presented a poster at a national conference and also gave an oral presentation in front of an audience at a different conference. I also give poster presentations at my school a couple times a year. Would I list these as conferences attended or poster/presentations?
 
I attended a Study Abroad session with a professor from my "Home Institution". The classes/grades/credits appear on my (unofficial) transcript just like all my other classes taken at my "Home Institution", with no mention of the foreign school anywhere on my transcript. Do I need to add these differently from any other course taken at my home school?
 
I attended a Study Abroad session with a professor from my "Home Institution". The classes/grades/credits appear on my (unofficial) transcript just like all my other classes taken at my "Home Institution", with no mention of the foreign school anywhere on my transcript. Do I need to add these differently from any other course taken at my home school?
No, they are part of your regular transcript. But why are you using an unofficial transcript
 
I presented a poster at a national conference and also gave an oral presentation in front of an audience at a different conference. I also give poster presentations at my school a couple times a year. Would I list these as conferences attended or poster/presentations?

I would put them all under PPP
 
Thank you, I got this problem fixed! Could you advice on when is the latest one can re-take the MCAT and still be on time/on the early side for MD? I'm submitting June 6th with a 511, re-take is projected to be in the 518-521 range. Have a sub-par score on one of the sections. Is June 28 too late? There are no other openings, so the alternate option would be to not take it and save the $400 if it would actually hurt my application to just have it sitting there
1) if you need to retake the MCAT, then why are spending time, energy and effort on preparing AMCAS?
2) Applying without knowing your MCAT score is one the most common and worst mistakes an applicant can make
3) If you apply to all your schools with a 511 then they can evaluate you on that. There is no requirement to wait for a planned MCAT
4) though I dislike this method, you can apply to one (throwaway) school to have your application verified
5) Not having the final MCAT score before submission, already masks you late as you. If you wait until your new score is back end of June, means schools may take a week or two or more to send you secondaries and you take a week or more to get them back. you wont make the Sept 1 "early" mark but you should be able to make the end of Sept "ontime" mark

BTW, applicants think like college students as when is the latest I can do something which is the wrong question. It should be what be the most efficient, most optimal timing to maximize my chances.

********AMCAS 2020 Timeline Summary (post count #012)************
-AMCAS May 1, 2019, Primary application opens up. Can send formal requests for transcripts from your schools and letter requests to your letter writers.
-AMCAS May 30, 2019, Completed primary applications with all ECs, PS, and course information can be submitted.
-You enter the verification queue (“time to verify”) only when both completed primary application and all transcripts have been received.
-AMCAS does not, repeat, does not verify LOR or MCAT score. Your primary application will be verified regardless of LOR or MCAT score status
-AMCAS June 28, 2019, begins transmission verified applications (though some schools have secondaries sent to contact info upon submission to AMCAS)
-Verification peak is about August 1st and takes 20 days
-Most Primary Apps are transmitted early July thru early September
-Secondaries timelines can vary widely as to when to they are sent out from almost immediately upon submissions to 3 months, though most are in the range 1-3 weeks after transmission.
-Letters via AMCAS are processed/transmitted separately from primary
-Letters can be added after primary has been submitted and transmitted and are mostly not needed until secondary reviews at the earliest.
-While applications are transmitted at end of June, most schools do not start any processing until at least mid-July at the earliest; even then, most dont get up to full speed until mid-August.
-There are usually 3 main phases in processing application
----1) Initial Screening/Evaluation: A hybrid of automatic GPA/MCAT screen plus human for "quick review" of application. Used to for general priority and, in some cases, which team/subcommittee gets application. At some schools, preset criteria or informal policy can lead to II at this stage.
----2) Full Evaluation: This is where evaluator/reader/team/subcommittee will fully evaluate all sections of primary, secondary, and LOR and generally summarize in broad categories or point system. This essentially becomes your priority for adcom review and II. This function may be split up among several evaluators and may go to a team or subcommittee for II decision. Application are not typically evaluated until complete with Primary, Secondary, MCAT, and LOR
----3) Full adcom: this is where your fully evaluated application is reviewed and voted on by adcom for II on later on for acceptance/WL/rejection
-Application and candidate evaluations timeline varies widely by school may not done in a linear, chronological order. EDP, High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
-Most adcoms dont start meeting for review of evaluated applicants until at least mid-August, more likely September, though some reviews may be done earlier for groups mentioned above. Evaluation may start almost immediately at some schools.
-Schools receive 5,000-10,000 application but can only evaluate several hundred applications a week. Therefore, it can take anywhere from 4-16 weeks (1-4 months) or more to be evaluated, reviewed and invited for interview after your application is complete.
-Schools must reduce several thousand applications to several hundred interviews. Therefore at least 80% of applicants at any individual school must be rejected pre-interview.
-Applicants should check each applicant portal daily until application is marked complete, under review, or similar. After that, you should check applicant portal 2 to 3 times as week as schools may invite you for interview solely by portal; some schools do not send email for interview invite.
-Submitting Primary Application June is Early, July Medium, August Late
-Having Primary verified and transmitted to school by middle of August is normal speed
-Having Secondary and all LORs complete to school by Labor Day is early/ontime. By late or end of September is about middle/normal speed, by end of October is about late.
--After that point you will generally start getting impacted by the number of applications submitted, the finite number of interview slots, and seats given by rolling admissions. These aren’t absolute dates nor is it a fixed timeline. It should be used as a guideline

Getting primary in on time does matter because of all the other items that follow it. But applicants often see the beginning and not understanding how it flows from there. Additionally, how each school then opens a file, reviews them on GPA, MCAT, and other factors, and what order they wind up in a queue has less to do with when the primary arrives then when the secondary is completed and received. Since the majority of schools, I dare say, send out pre-transmission, unscreened, or minimal cut off screened secondaries, this is probably a larger factor in where you wind up in the queue for 1) reading an application and 2) decision on interview invite. As I have said previously, and will undoubtedly say dozens of time during this 2020 application cycle (see count above) review of apps is not simply done in a linear chronological order. High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
 
No, they are part of your regular transcript. But why are you using an unofficial transcript
Thanks!

Good reminder - I started my app using an unofficial transcript as the semester was not yet over, but now that I've graduated I'll order an official one to confirm everything.
 
1) What is the first time you can submit the AMCAS – Is 12 am EST on May 30 or in the morning at 9:30 EST?
2) Do we have to submit the list and the LOR for each school when we submit our app?
 
1) What is the first time you can submit the AMCAS – Is 12 am EST on May 30 or in the morning at 9:30 EST?
2) Do we have to submit the list and the LOR for each school when we submit our app?
1. Usually about 9:30
2. You do not need school list nor do you need LORs.
 
I have a question about whether or not I should list something in the work and activities section.

I'm a history major and all history seniors at my school take a history "capstone course", during which you develop a historical question, conduct historical research, and write a research paper based on your findings. This happens under the direction of a history faculty member, who meets with you and helps you develop your research paper.

I wrote mine about the impact of the holocaust on global medical ethics. I thought this was an interesting topic and the paper was composed along the lines of what professional historical research should look like, not your run of the mill 2-3 page paper for an undergraduate class.

Would this be an interesting / relevant thing to list under work and activities? Or is it pointless to list something that is part of a college class?

I thought it might be nice to give some context to my history major, but at the same time I worry if this is relevant.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
 
@gonnif Quick question regarding entering schools on AMCAS. I went to a junior college when I was in high school for a class during the summer. Should I click the "summer school only" option when entering the school or should I enter the time frame that I attended the school?
 
I have a question about whether or not I should list something in the work and activities section.

I'm a history major and all history seniors at my school take a history "capstone course", during which you develop a historical question, conduct historical research, and write a research paper based on your findings. This happens under the direction of a history faculty member, who meets with you and helps you develop your research paper.

I wrote mine about the impact of the holocaust on global medical ethics. I thought this was an interesting topic and the paper was composed along the lines of what professional historical research should look like, not your run of the mill 2-3 page paper for an undergraduate class.

Would this be an interesting / relevant thing to list under work and activities? Or is it pointless to list something that is part of a college class?

I thought it might be nice to give some context to my history major, but at the same time I worry if this is relevant.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I personally think capstone/senior thesis should be entered in W&A
 
@gonnif Quick question regarding entering schools on AMCAS. I went to a junior college when I was in high school for a class during the summer. Should I click the "summer school only" option when entering the school or should I enter the time frame that I attended the school?
It was summer only so enter it as such
 
If i took classes at the extension school affiliated with my university, do I need to send in a transcript for that? The extension grades do not show up on my undergraduate official transcript
 
If i took classes at the extension school affiliated with my university, do I need to send in a transcript for that? The extension grades do not show up on my undergraduate official transcript
do they exist on a transcript somewhere? did you receive credit for them? did you register for them at the university?
 
do they exist on a transcript somewhere? did you receive credit for them? did you register for them at the university?

There's an extension transcript that is separate from my undergraduate transcript. The classes do not transfer over at all to the undergraduate institution. I took the classes p/np. The registration system was separate from that of my undergrad registration system
 
1. Usually about 9:30
2. You do not need school list nor do you need LORs.
Thank you!
1) And should I leave my school list section on AMCAS empty in that case bc it says incomplete on my app then?
2) When should we submit the school list by if we're submitting the first day?
 
Is there a list out there for which schools are not pass/fail for pre-clinical years?
 
Thank you!
1) And should I leave my school list section on AMCAS empty in that case bc it says incomplete on my app then?
2) When should we submit the school list by if we're submitting the first day?

You need to have at least ONE school
you can submit the school list whenever you want
are you waiting for MCAT or Summer class?
 
You need to have at least ONE school
you can submit the school list whenever you want
are you waiting for MCAT or Summer class?
Thank you! I'm not waiting for MCAT or summer class but I'm planning to submit my app May 30 with just one school
 
1. Usually about 9:30
2. You do not need school list nor do you need LORs.
Also if LORs arent needed to submit, is it ok if i enter all the schools I'm applying to on my app, but does that mean we have to click the check boxes yet on who is submitting the letters if we're trying to submit by May 30? I'm just worried bc I'm not sure if not entering my schools for when I submit May 30 will delay me?
 
Also if LORs arent needed to submit, is it ok if i enter all the schools I'm applying to on my app, but does that mean we have to click the check boxes yet on who is submitting the letters if we're trying to submit by May 30? I'm just worried bc I'm not sure if not entering my schools for when I submit May 30 will delay me?
You do not need to assign letters to ANY school in order to submit, verified, or transmit, You can add and assign letters later. Also, you shouldnt assign a letter until the letter is actually upload in AMCAS
 
I have not taken sociology in college (I did take 2 psychology classes though, a geriatrics ethics class, a medical ethics class and a social and psychological aspects of death gerontology class) but i'm feeling stressed about not having taken sociology . On MSAR I've seen just psychology show up as a requirement for medical schools, and sociology just be recommended for just about every school
Should I be worried? And are there any schools that require sociology?
 
How long does AMCAS usually take to process mail transcripts at this time of year?
 
Hi, thank you in advance for answering these questions:

1) Is it true that it doesn't really make that big of a difference when you submit so long as you're in the first "batch" ... meaning July 30th versus June 5 (I think that was the cutoff)? I know you should never submit until you're ready, but I just want to keep in mind when is the best time for to send it in terms of still being "early"

2) I know I know I know that we should NEVER used a patient's name in a personal statement (HIPAA)... but what is the prevailing belief on using just the first name of a patient? I feel like it makes my personal statement more of a story. I feel like you could get away with that, but I wanted to be sure.
 
I know that AMCAS instructs students to fill out their course work exactly how it appears on the transcript, but many of my courses are abbreviated on my transcript. Should I still copy it word for word or should I expand upon the abbreviated course names even though they look like they're spelled incorrectly?
 
I worked as a CNA at 3 different places. I can't condense it as one activity since each activity requires a location/contact information/etc. Since the job activity of those 3 activities are similar, is it terrible to rewrite the same thing or should I make each sound a little bit different?
 
I have not taken sociology in college (I did take 2 psychology classes though, a geriatrics ethics class, a medical ethics class and a social and psychological aspects of death gerontology class) but i'm feeling stressed about not having taken sociology . On MSAR I've seen just psychology show up as a requirement for medical schools, and sociology just be recommended for just about every school
Should I be worried? And are there any schools that require sociology?
Rule 1: take a breath. You dont need a recommended class
 
I worked as a CNA at 3 different places. I can't condense it as one activity since each activity requires a location/contact information/etc. Since the job activity of those 3 activities are similar, is it terrible to rewrite the same thing or should I make each sound a little bit different?
I would just write the 3 places contacts dates and a single brief description
 
I know that AMCAS instructs students to fill out their course work exactly how it appears on the transcript, but many of my courses are abbreviated on my transcript. Should I still copy it word for word or should I expand upon the abbreviated course names even though they look like they're spelled incorrectly?
EXACTLY AS WRITTEN
 
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I'm a little confused about AP course entry on AMCAS? Do we just enter all of our AP scores that we took in high school?
Thank you in advance!

Also for a course titled: "Ethics of Geriatric Care" with a GERO course ID would it go under Health Sciences, Behavior/Social or Philosophy?
 
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1) if you need to retake the MCAT, then why are spending time, energy and effort on preparing AMCAS?
2) Applying without knowing your MCAT score is one the most common and worst mistakes an applicant can make
3) If you apply to all your schools with a 511 then they can evaluate you on that. There is no requirement to wait for a planned MCAT
4) though I dislike this method, you can apply to one (throwaway) school to have your application verified
5) Not having the final MCAT score before submission, already masks you late as you. If you wait until your new score is back end of June, means schools may take a week or two or more to send you secondaries and you take a week or more to get them back. you wont make the Sept 1 "early" mark but you should be able to make the end of Sept "ontime" mark

BTW, applicants think like college students as when is the latest I can do something which is the wrong question. It should be what be the most efficient, most optimal timing to maximize my chances.

********AMCAS 2020 Timeline Summary (post count #012)************
-AMCAS May 1, 2019, Primary application opens up. Can send formal requests for transcripts from your schools and letter requests to your letter writers.
-AMCAS May 30, 2019, Completed primary applications with all ECs, PS, and course information can be submitted.
-You enter the verification queue (“time to verify”) only when both completed primary application and all transcripts have been received.
-AMCAS does not, repeat, does not verify LOR or MCAT score. Your primary application will be verified regardless of LOR or MCAT score status
-AMCAS June 28, 2019, begins transmission verified applications (though some schools have secondaries sent to contact info upon submission to AMCAS)
-Verification peak is about August 1st and takes 20 days
-Most Primary Apps are transmitted early July thru early September
-Secondaries timelines can vary widely as to when to they are sent out from almost immediately upon submissions to 3 months, though most are in the range 1-3 weeks after transmission.
-Letters via AMCAS are processed/transmitted separately from primary
-Letters can be added after primary has been submitted and transmitted and are mostly not needed until secondary reviews at the earliest.
-While applications are transmitted at end of June, most schools do not start any processing until at least mid-July at the earliest; even then, most dont get up to full speed until mid-August.
-There are usually 3 main phases in processing application
----1) Initial Screening/Evaluation: A hybrid of automatic GPA/MCAT screen plus human for "quick review" of application. Used to for general priority and, in some cases, which team/subcommittee gets application. At some schools, preset criteria or informal policy can lead to II at this stage.
----2) Full Evaluation: This is where evaluator/reader/team/subcommittee will fully evaluate all sections of primary, secondary, and LOR and generally summarize in broad categories or point system. This essentially becomes your priority for adcom review and II. This function may be split up among several evaluators and may go to a team or subcommittee for II decision. Application are not typically evaluated until complete with Primary, Secondary, MCAT, and LOR
----3) Full adcom: this is where your fully evaluated application is reviewed and voted on by adcom for II on later on for acceptance/WL/rejection
-Application and candidate evaluations timeline varies widely by school may not done in a linear, chronological order. EDP, High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
-Most adcoms dont start meeting for review of evaluated applicants until at least mid-August, more likely September, though some reviews may be done earlier for groups mentioned above. Evaluation may start almost immediately at some schools.
-Schools receive 5,000-10,000 application but can only evaluate several hundred applications a week. Therefore, it can take anywhere from 4-16 weeks (1-4 months) or more to be evaluated, reviewed and invited for interview after your application is complete.
-Schools must reduce several thousand applications to several hundred interviews. Therefore at least 80% of applicants at any individual school must be rejected pre-interview.
-Applicants should check each applicant portal daily until application is marked complete, under review, or similar. After that, you should check applicant portal 2 to 3 times as week as schools may invite you for interview solely by portal; some schools do not send email for interview invite.
-Submitting Primary Application June is Early, July Medium, August Late
-Having Primary verified and transmitted to school by middle of August is normal speed
-Having Secondary and all LORs complete to school by Labor Day is early/ontime. By late or end of September is about middle/normal speed, by end of October is about late.
--After that point you will generally start getting impacted by the number of applications submitted, the finite number of interview slots, and seats given by rolling admissions. These aren’t absolute dates nor is it a fixed timeline. It should be used as a guideline

Getting primary in on time does matter because of all the other items that follow it. But applicants often see the beginning and not understanding how it flows from there. Additionally, how each school then opens a file, reviews them on GPA, MCAT, and other factors, and what order they wind up in a queue has less to do with when the primary arrives then when the secondary is completed and received. Since the majority of schools, I dare say, send out pre-transmission, unscreened, or minimal cut off screened secondaries, this is probably a larger factor in where you wind up in the queue for 1) reading an application and 2) decision on interview invite. As I have said previously, and will undoubtedly say dozens of time during this 2020 application cycle (see count above) review of apps is not simply done in a linear chronological order. High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.

So you recommend waiting a whole extra year to focus on taking the MCAT and then applying to schools just because I need to take a test that I'm already prepared for? I was scheduled to take the May 23 test but could't due to a family crisis, which has been resolved. I'd take it June 1 or 15, but unfortunately there are no seats left. Hopefully they'll open up, if not I'll just take it on June 28 because I can't do anything else.

Also if my scores come back end of July and schools take 2-3weeks to send them to me, and I get them done in a week how will I not be done by Sept 1?I honestly find your answer very off putting and in general the priorities seem bizzare, but then again, this is your thread and I asked for your advice so I don't want to be disrespectful. Life happens? For a minor bump like this you don't throw away a whole year and hundreds of dollars of prep materials and thousands of hours of hard work. I'm not upset that you said I wouldn't be on time, or that your answer is not to my liking. I'm just shocked that you would respond so callously, as someone who's passion is to help pre-meds, but honestly that's your call. Thanks for your input.
 
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