Okami WW Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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Not gonna lie tho, if I was wolf a D1 zenge or dubs misyeet would be too juicy to not have. I’d hop that train fast.
You were 2 votes up, but they both voted there and parked there. O2 hasn’t really been back and sport sport is flying somewhere right?

Sporty was flying back home from the conference we were both at, yeah. I didn't really expect her to come back. Woxy popped in a couple times but just basically talked about being busy and then left again unless I missed something.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't know why you would be, you're clearly a wolf.

Contingency yeet Dubz

What happened? Are you just throwing away Zenge's reading card?

 

[WildZoo]

Y'all he's joking about wolf reading me so I don't get NK'd

 

[Truenamer]

Y'all he's joking about wolf reading me so I don't get NK'd

Begging you to be quiet

 

[Truenamer]

Begging you to be quiet

In retrospect, it was probably a little obvious

 

[WildZoo]

In retrospect, it was probably a little obvious

Apparently not lol

Anyway, I'm fine with it. They can kill me if they want.

 

[Truenamer]

Apparently not lol

Anyway, I'm fine with it. They can kill me if they want.

But have you considered that it would make me sad

 

[WildZoo]

But have you considered that it would make me sad

No, I thought you would be the one killing me

 

[WildZoo]

Although Fluff doesn’t look great either.

My order of yeeting out would be

Zuri
Woxy
True
Vis
Fluff

I'll be amused if Zenge solved the game and it turns out even misyeeting him d1 isn't enough. Wolves are gonna have to start killing him n0...

 

[Truenamer]

I'll be amused if Zenge solved the game and it turns out even misyeeting him d1 isn't enough. Wolves are gonna have to start killing him n0...

Well, he's lost the beginnings of a card on me, but I'll be willing to go for anyone else on his list tomorrow.

Un-contingency-yeet Dubz

 

[Viscernable]

Welp. That’s a bummer sorry y’all for my bad reads.

Okay I’m seeing the sus with this post

 

[WildZoo]

Okay I’m seeing the sus with this post

Any thoughts on anyone else?

 

[WildZoo]

NGL I breathed a sigh of relief at that vote because a dubz/z pack feels like it would be an impossible push

I'm not giving you points for this "pack paranoia" either btw 😛

 

[Truenamer]

Zuri feels worse in light of this. Started to feel bad about Vissy toward the end there.

That isn't enough, but I'm not sure where to go from there. Sporty? Cray??

 

[Animal Midwife]

Zuri feels worse in light of this. Started to feel bad about Vissy toward the end there.

That isn't enough, but I'm not sure where to go from there. Sporty? Cray??

What are your cases for both of them? The latter two.

 

[Truenamer]

What are your cases for both of them? The latter two.

I have zero case for sportsport, I'm just at a loss for who the third could be.

Cray has been all over the place... but I know that's also totally within her village wheelhouse.

 

[Truenamer]

@justafluff are you village

 

[WildZoo]

I have zero case for sportsport, I'm just at a loss for who the third could be.

Cray has been all over the place... but I know that's also totally within her village wheelhouse.

I can think of someone

 

[Truenamer]

I can think of someone

Please, even I can tell that I'm different this game from last game

 

[WildZoo]

Please, even I can tell that I'm different this game from last game

Well, if you can tell that means you're perceptive enough to change your behavior 🙂

 

[zuriburi]

Not gonna lie tho, if I was wolf a D1 zenge or dubs misyeet would be too juicy to not have. I’d hop that train fast.
You were 2 votes up, but they both voted there and parked there. O2 hasn’t really been back and sport sport is flying somewhere right?

Couldnt you have helped save zenge by staying on your Oxy vote?

 

[zuriburi]

Also I very much get that anything I say is going to sound awful at this point but I just would not be able to have convincingly pulled off an intentional misyeet Push if I was a wolf.

 

[Truenamer]

It's hitting me how much I just helped the pack and I'm really frustrated. Had really started to convince myself that I have good D1 reads, and that I have a good feel for Zenge.

I really liked talkative D1 Zenge. Friggin *hate* that I just punished him for it.


Aljdksksns

 

[Crayola227]

Oh another point is to be fair a wolfy phrase?
I feel like I use it a lot as a wolf and cray using it made my eye twitch

I think it's NAI for me. I use the phrase a ton in my every day speech.

For anyone interested in my personal life:
Also part of what happened is that the baby decided to go from happy with her toys to screaming and crying begging to be picked up, which is totally out of character for her so I was not expecting it literally 5 min to close, but babies have a 6th sense about these things. Meaning they wait until 5 min before a deadline to pull that kind of shyte because it must entertain them. I think she's teething again. (She has had 2 bottom teeth for a month and a half, she's due for the top 2, so she can more properly bite me I guess). Anyway it's one level of Bad Mom to let her play with her toys on her own when she's happy, and a whole other level to ignore her unhappiness for my phone. Can't do it.

Anyway, I had to drop a vote *while* holding her as she squirmed in my arms trying to grab the cat (who loves to keep her tail within reach, I don't know what is wrong with this animal!).

 

[Crayola227]

When ppl talked about Z being punished for higher post count, like, I didn't have the heart yeet him D1 and got cold feet. I decided the ghosty noob was probably less cruel in terms of how sad someone was going to be about being yeeted D1.

I need to review the day when the gremlin goes down at 9 after Cessna and I eat dinner and have mommy daddy time, I usually wait until he's asleep, which is around 11 or 12. I have to be asleep by 1 am or I will really suffer when the child gets up.

I hope that at least we can learn from what happened.

Did Z come out either way on Dubz??

 

[WildZoo]

Did Z come out either way on Dubz??

Yes, in case the wolves in the back didn't hear, he was village-reading me. Top of his village list.

 

[Animal Midwife]

When ppl talked about Z being punished for higher post count, like, I didn't have the heart yeet him D1 and got cold feet. I decided the ghosty noob was probably less cruel in terms of how sad someone was going to be about being yeeted D1.

I need to review the day when the gremlin goes down at 9 after Cessna and I eat dinner and have mommy daddy time, I usually wait until he's asleep, which is around 11 or 12. I have to be asleep by 1 am or I will really suffer when the child gets up.

I hope that at least we can learn from what happened.

Did Z come out either way on Dubz??

Yeah, he said she was village a while ago.

 

[Crayola227]

Okay but that’s the opposite of what it should be…

Spoiler

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Well, that's the point. I'm disagreeing with the common wisdom and the phrase by saying it doesn't apply well in WW.

The only hypocrisy that counts, is if it serves a wolfy agenda, it's evidence of deceit, or it doesn't make sense in the mindframe of the player originating the behavior, or it's outside their meta.

 

[WildZoo]

I am both scared and excited to wolf again and have the challenge of getting him to village read me 5 hours into d1

 

[Crayola227]

Samac feels good right now

Does a samac true pack make sense?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Does a samac true pack make sense?

Not realistic to me.

 

[WildZoo]

Not realistic to me.

Is that because of individual reads or incompatibilities?

 

[justafluff]

@justafluff are you village

Spoiler

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is that because of individual reads or incompatibilities?

Mostly individual, but samac easily slipping in True's name after close drops w/w value.

 

[WildZoo]

Watch those shrugs, son.

What’s wrong with shrugs??

They have a strong statistical correlation of helping wolves dodge being correctly yeeted.

oh heck

 

[justafluff]

contingency yeet zuri

 

[Crayola227]

Village:
WildZoo
Animal Midwife
samac

Village Side of Neutral:
Cray
Genny

Neutral:
Viscernable
Sporty
Fluff

Wolfy Side of Neutral:
Truey

Wolfy:
WOxy
Zuri

Meant to say that in my scramble I also had seen this list from Z, and I found it reasonable which was another reason I hesitated.

I don't know why it took me this long to realize, that maybe some players will always seem wolfy on PbPa. I really thought reading thread and some of the stuff with him and Dubz that one or both be wolves. If I trust Z, and I have trusted village Z's reads before to a village win, then I worry I need to adjust some reads. I fear I am falling into pockets and not listening to my feelz. Or my emotions are blinding me. And PbPa may never work on some players. I am shook. I need to consider how else I might come to correctly read some players.

Also

Yes

I struggle to read her and she’s currently advertising herself as best wolf

She fiiiiiiiiine

feels

Y'all didn't get it? Okay


Here, let me help with that

Unyeet True yeet samac

Um what am I supposed to make of this???? Guys, what is samac? I thought she might be village?

Ok, little homework assignment please. Can people, anyone who wants to chime in, please explain in their own words (or someone else's Idgaf) what they perceive as the wolf meta of each of the following players and how that is different from the village meta.

AM
Samac
True
Zenge
Sporty
Visc

Kay thanks fam

 

[Crayola227]

Oof if you're not magically correct this list just seems so...wolfy

The bottom had a bit of LHF feel to it, but I can't deny the top felt right, and the bottom does feel sketch. But they're noobs. Some ghosty.

Wait a minute, I thought I recalled Dubz saying once that in her wolf meta she's a master of somehow casting shade without committing to a vote there and getting people yeeted without looking bad herself.

Ah, but the reading card.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm considering whether my list would be all that different as I say this

And now I understand samac's general discomfort

Yeah I had that feel too

 

[Crayola227]

Does this go beyond his first few posts you called out?

Yes, but less as we went. I really had a bad read on Z.

 

[Crayola227]

Hmmm instinctively a relatively new player butting against AM feels villagey to me, but then I don’t know/remember your approach to her in your previous two games. And this is an oversimplification of her reason for yeeting Cray so I’m really not sure how I feel about it

Mixed feels from this post. The first part felt villagey, the shade in the last felt less good

 

[Crayola227]

I thought you said he felt less wolfy than usual last game?

Maybe I did. Last game I liked his play more for being a touch more serious and directed, I think? I think he may be like Mayo thar way, I like his play better when he is wolf, and when he is having fun as a villager it comes off wolfy as heck for me. So I need to opposite read them that way.

I dunno. The village read I had of him is slipping.

 

[Crayola227]

@Animal Midwife can you come discipline your child?

Wait, Visc is AM's tee? And shorty?

 

[Crayola227]

Honestly I’m just really stuck and I want a vote on the board to hopefully stir up some interactions that will give me a better idea

This felt weird

 

[Crayola227]

yes, wolf reading the 3 lowest posters makes sense for wolves that need 3-4 misyeets

Ping

 

[Crayola227]

Sorry I think pressure votes tend to work better when people know they're being pressured

Notice I said, "what pressure *here* does", not "how this player responds to pressure"

Kinda spooky the way you responded.

 

[Crayola227]

Why on earth would I pick you as a misyeet target on day one? You're a strong player and you've been very present on-thread, there are like eight easier targets.

So much wifom here

 

[Crayola227]

what if fluff and i vote cray....

Lol but y

 

[samac]

Okay I’m seeing the sus with this post

Couldnt you have helped save zenge by staying on your Oxy vote?

No.
The entire wagon was down.

Meant to say that in my scramble I also had seen this list from Z, and I found it reasonable which was another reason I hesitated.

I don't know why it took me this long to realize, that maybe some players will always seem wolfy on PbPa. I really thought reading thread and some of the stuff with him and Dubz that one or both be wolves. If I trust Z, and I have trusted village Z's reads before to a village win, then I worry I need to adjust some reads. I fear I am falling into pockets and not listening to my feelz. Or my emotions are blinding me. And PbPa may never work on some players. I am shook. I need to consider how else I might come to correctly read some players.

Also




Um what am I supposed to make of this???? Guys, what is samac? I thought she might be village?

Ok, little homework assignment please. Can people, anyone who wants to chime in, please explain in their own words (or someone else's Idgaf) what they perceive as the wolf meta of each of the following players and how that is different from the village meta.

AM
Samac
True
Zenge
Sporty
Visc

Kay thanks fam

Yeah sure someone explain my wolf meta.
I would also like to know.
i can only catch AM based on how I feel about her.

 

[kaydubs]

Night gently closed. ​