I’m assuming this is not a complete thought.
I think you should note that no where did I ask her to interpret matt's actions.I do agree with you on this, I don’t care much about your interpretation of Matt’s actions because you’re not Matt. I got frustrated as hell when I subbed into bioshock and people kept asking me why kata did this or that. I didn’t ****ing know, I wasn’t her.
So I’m interested in what your takes are on things.
Fair point. I see what you meant.I think you should note that no where did I ask her to interpret matt's actions.
She played identically last game. The only way I came to a read on her was due to the specific circumstances surrounding her wagon.Agree veggie's posts are very vague and I'm not really seeing continuity of thoughts. Has she wolfed yet? I can't really remember what her posts were like in the noob game either
She played identically last game. The only way I came to a read on her was the specific circumstances surrounding her wagon.
She was "village" in the sense that she didn't know who the wolves were.Was she wolfing? I didn't actually read the entire game...
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WHO TOOK SAR FROM ME
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I'm inclined to vote miranda out today unless further evidence presents itself. Here are her main posts:
Where is the evaluation?
(for context, it was my train) Why? No explanation.
Honestly, you seemed to be approaching this game differently than the previous one from my perspective.
Interesting you commented on this. I want your thoughts on why I would kill SAR if I was a wolf.*cough* Wondalfy and pack *cough*
How?Honestly, you seemed to be approaching this game differently than the previous one from my perspective.
Interesting you commented on this. I want your thoughts on why I would kill SAR if I was a wolf.
From what I remember of Wonda's previous style, she would give very detailed and expanded read lists which seems to be missing this go around, other than her defense of matt and ISOing me.Can you expand on this?
That's one possible motive. I want Miranda's thoughts on thisI mean she was the first one on your vote yesterday
She brought attention to you, obviously.Interesting you commented on this. I want your thoughts on why I would kill SAR if I was a wolf.
It's not that deep, SAR pointed you out and after thinking about your previous gameplay it did seems a little off comparatively. Others clearly caught on to that too, otherwise, you wouldn't have been leading the vote for a minute...That's one possible motive. I want Miranda's thoughts on this
Right, okay. I've been waiting all day to see if someone was going to specifically comment on SAR's death and relate to me. It's part of why I've been quiet all day. And you did. I also wanted to wait for your response to my questions without commenting further.She brought attention to you, obviously.
It's a misyeet, butyeet miranda @supershorty
I'm working on my read list you requested!Miranda, is there a reason you are not voting? Or did I miss your vote?
What?Also omg @SportPonies Hi . Its nice to have a new player that is already pocketed by me . Mwahahahahaha
Oho! Hype .I'm working on my read list you requested!
Easiest pocketing ever*************
*climbs into the dorotheagrid pocket*
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Idk, I didn’t read yet. I thought I made that clear.Wait
Do you not actually think I’m sketchy?
Listen. I was trying to not bus the mod here but shorty told me that I wasn’t subbing into a fun low key day and that I might be dead by end of day anywayBecause I'm concerned your answers aren't lining up with what you claim to know.
I womt ask for a full readlist if you dont have the time. But could you give me a 3x3 (3 VillaReads, 3 sus). I think also explaining your read / opinions on Wonda in mist detail might be good
*because people thought Matt was sketchy, not for some mechanical reason to my knowledgeI might be dead by end of day anyway
Also, this just feels like retaliation, not because you actually think I'm wolfy 🙄yeet miranda @supershorty
I will wait diligently for your gamesolving posts.ALSO….
I haven’t even read any bit of my role PM yet besides my initial role post. So clam the heck down.
We're waiting... 🐺@Wondalfy besides miranda, do you have any other wolf reads?
Shoot ZengeI will wait diligently for your gamesolving posts.
This post is wolfyWe're waiting... 🐺
I mean it does have a wolf emoji in itThis post is wolfy
Can I get your biggest wolf and village reads since you’ve been lurking all day?Right, okay. I've been waiting all day to see if someone was going to specifically comment on SAR's death and relate to me. It's part of why I've been quiet all day. And you did. I also wanted to wait for your response to my questions without commenting further.
Because it's an easy frame, and I didn't want to show that I thought it was a frame. I wanted someone else to frame it first, if anyone was going to.
SAR was the first person to vote for me, big motive for me to kill them, right? SAR also happened to be one of the only people in my "least sus" pile due to the voting patterns D1. Not only would this reduce my "village-y" pile, but it would make me look like I'm trying to prove my theory for credibility. It's a great frame.
By the way, I would not kill the first vote on myself. It only makes me look worse.
As soon as you form an opinion on me can ya let me know? Thanks.Idk, I didn’t read yet. I thought I made that clear.
Listen. I was trying to not bus the mod here but shorty told me that I wasn’t subbing into a fun low key day and that I might be dead by end of day anyway
I still don’t know what that means, and I don’t know why I’m sketchy. I just knew going in that people were gonna be sussing me.
Sus
3. mighty - has been pretty silent, as I said in one of my previous posts - mighty is one that pinged me in our noob game so it's hard not to avoid that bias
So given that I was sus about mightyrunner early in our noob game (while he didn't originally start as a wolf, he became a wolf) I am naturally cautious of them. Especially because they are very good at expressing opinions that seem neutral. I won't go down this route now, because if they are village in this game, they will be a great asset in sleuthing out wolves.
Don't think I really changed. I opened with that I am cautious of mighty because my previous experience, that still stands. I just don't think there is enough sus to warrant a vote at this time.What made you switch from your view from last cycle?
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That wasn't how Matt entered the noob game, and set off a few alarm bells for me. In general it seems self-votes are a little unusual (correct me if I'm wrong here) so reading it as a joke seems like a bit of a jump.I honestly thought the matt thing was a joke immediately so I have nothing to add there lol
The bias is interesting here, because I don't know if I would implicitly trust my friends in a game like this. It feels naive at best. It would be easier to trust a 'joke vote' if you were in a pack together.There wasn't a joke on Discord, Matt and I are friends so I'd know him immediately voting for me would be a joke. As in, he's just voting for me bc we're friends lol
Also that was my bad, I remembered wrong after the vote benoit by dina meant mightyrunner but then someone said they thought it was matt haha
Also I recognize since we are friends, there's some bias here
There's a lot of defending against misyeets but not trying to find the right yeet. Misyeets suck, but if you're not trying to hunt wolves then its easier for them. On that note...I mean, this is possible. But I also like to call out what I interpret as a potential misyeet & defend them, I was pretty vocal about that with fluff last game.
Clem and Santy are still at the top of my sus list for voting Matt so quickly for something I don't deem as sus. I also liked the argument made about veggie being sus for the 3P comment. Then probably Vis, samac, dina, yourself for throwing sus about the vote/village comment, which again I didn't find sus. Pretty neutral about mighty and miranda due to joining late. I feel best about SAR, chic, and mkg. Although AM is questioning matt a lot, it feels along the same lines as the last game so I feel decent about them as well.
I've been very consistent in that I thought what Matt said was a joke, not that I think he is village-y. I came in saying I didn't have anything to add because I thought it was a joke, i.e. not indicative of anything. I didn't feel like defending myself, but it was also my first post because frankly I didn't have much to say yet, I typically don't on D1, especially early. I think it was NAI. Maybe less likely for a wolf than village to bring attention to themselves like that but definitely still possible - so NAI. What I do find sus is going after it so hard when I interpreted it as just a fun/joke start to the game. I think perhaps I am using a very loose definition of misyeet, as in, I think people are trying to yeet for something I don't find yeetable, if that makes sense lol
This isn't as much thought into avoiding an actual misyeet, as we get on the Matt situation. I would expect a little more sureness from someone trying to avoid misyeets at all cost. Maybe Wonda was feeling pressured to make a choice, but the timing is curious to me.
This feels a bit like setting up the vote for Miranda, which happened later in the day and seemed to hinge on Miranda linking Wonda to SAR. Dina also asked some follow up questions in the thread, but Wonda only went after Miranda. I still think Wonda is high on my list of wolves, but I want to sit with my thoughts for a little longer before I vote.I'm inclined to vote miranda out today unless further evidence presents itself. Here are her main posts:
Neutral on Matt. Okay, that's fine with me. I see both perspectives, obviously because I am neutral on Matt, although for different reasons.
Neutral on Matt more. Okay.
Where is the evaluation?
(for context, it was my train) Why? No explanation.
Votes me with no explanation. What gets me about this entire thing is Miranda was entirely neutral about everything D1, including Matt, but votes me for seemingly either 1) being neutral about Matt, just like she was or 2) wants to join a random train without much reasoning (which would subsequently be a misyeet). I don't know which it is because she did not give any reasoning for her vote. The entire thing just seems very wagon-y.
This isn't particularly sus except the last part, perhaps it was a genuine misunderstanding, but my message was intended to convey exactly why people who defended Matt were less sus to me. It just seems like trying to twist what I was saying around.
Still neutral on Matt, but where is the reasoning behind voting me, or sus/evaluation of any other players?
I actually...don't think wolf packs very often kill a player to frame one specific other player and then come in the thread and point out that specific player this blatantly. Like sure, possible, but it just doesn't really happen. No one particular misyeet is that important at this stage in the game.Right, okay. I've been waiting all day to see if someone was going to specifically comment on SAR's death and relate to me. It's part of why I've been quiet all day. And you did. I also wanted to wait for your response to my questions without commenting further.
Because it's an easy frame, and I didn't want to show that I thought it was a frame. I wanted someone else to frame it first, if anyone was going to.
SAR was the first person to vote for me, big motive for me to kill them, right? SAR also happened to be one of the only people in my "least sus" pile due to the voting patterns D1. Not only would this reduce my "village-y" pile, but it would make me look like I'm trying to prove my theory for credibility. It's a great frame.
By the way, I would not kill the first vote on myself. It only makes me look worse.
I’m going to intentionally not give you an opinion because I don’t really like that you base your read on me on how combative I am towards youAs soon as you form an opinion on me can ya let me know? Thanks.
I assumed that I had been NK'ed N1 bc thats just a SAMAC™ thing to do@mkg323 tried to claim she was me and then ghosted
Damn fam if you gonna live that samac life you gotta try harder than that
AgreeI actually...don't think wolf packs very often kill a player to frame one specific other player and then come in the thread and point out that specific player this blatantly. Like sure, possible, but it just doesn't really happen. No one particular misyeet is that important at this stage in the game.
...more often I've seen wolves kill someone who is suspicious of them to silence that voice and hope they get away with it, and then claim it's a frame job if they get called out. Lol
catching up and contemplating if the nooblets are sus bc they are baby wolves or bc of bias. I'd like to think I'm not a noobist but, hey, you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villian, ya know?@mkg323 What are you doing?
Well, to be honest, you're probably the highest besides miranda. For the matt sus, but primarily because you very quickly responded to the SAR/me issue when I was directing the question to miranda. I didn't want other opinions bc I wanted to see miranda's logic, so I kinda see it as protecting her in a way as well.@Wondalfy besides miranda, do you have any other wolf reads?