PSA: GPT-4

[Steve_Zissou]

I don't need to prove that I understand Fourier Transform ( or how I applied it ) to some anonymous person. But I am really appalled that there is no moderation in this forums for personal insults. If the moderator read most of my messages, it is about facts that I even asked to cross check with experts, apologetic when I was wrong and acknowledged when there was valid point in counter argument. I think we need Doctors who care for society and patients than being insecure and fight hard to stay relevant. People could always retrain if they have open mind.

The issue is that you don’t actually have a clue what a radiologist does and how complex it is. I can show you three different MSK radiologists and they would have 3 different levels of sensitivity for calling, say, rotator cuff tendinosis vs tear, and they would each have different ideas of what makes the impression to help guide clinician decision making. There are so many variables, and having someone on the other end to talk to a clinician about what their findings mean/don’t mean and having that radiologist give his or her opinion is invaluable. The whole process is much more complex than you realize, and people seem to think it’s just look at pictures -> spit out findings, but it’s far more difficult than that and AI is unlikely to be able to recreate/replace/significantly reduce load for a very long time if physicians have to go back and read the AI prelim reports anyways.

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[stay_foolish]

The issue is that you don’t actually have a clue what a radiologist does and how complex it is. I can show you three different MSK radiologists and they would have 3 different levels of sensitivity for calling, say, rotator cuff tendinosis vs tear, and they would each have different ideas of what makes the impression to help guide clinician decision making. There are so many variables, and having someone on the other end to talk to a clinician about what their findings mean/don’t mean and having that radiologist give his or her opinion is invaluable. The whole process is much more complex than you realize, and people seem to think it’s just look at pictures -> spit out findings, but it’s far more difficult than that and AI is unlikely to be able to recreate/replace/significantly reduce load for a very long time if physicians have to go back and read the AI prelim reports anyways.

Again people wanted to write something before understanding what is written. Please read all my posts again. There are more things I mentioned about AI growth, Silicon technology etc., than threat to Radiology itself. But thanks for your explanation.

 

[stay_foolish]

Become a plumber, AI can’t do that. And no, I don’t mean a vascular surgeon.

That is the paradox of AI to currently how society function. As cost of intelligence goes low, the manual labor like Plumber, Construction worker and Gardener could be in demand than General Physician, Lawyer and Programmer. As of now, Humanoid robots are expensive or even not possible to built to be a plumber or gardener than building some machine going through volumes of medical journal/clinical reports and giving diagnostic suggestion.

 

[Steve_Zissou]

Again people wanted to write something before understanding what is written. Please read all my posts again. There are more things I mentioned about AI growth, Silicon technology etc., than threat to Radiology itself.

Bro. I’m not going back to read all of your posts again. It’s fine. I’m just explaining why radiology residents and physicians will mostly roll their eyes at you.

 

[SeisK]

Bro. I’m not going back to read all of your posts again. It’s fine. I’m just explaining why radiology residents and physicians will mostly roll their eyes at you.

Maybe just best to let him spin his wheels.

I guess the AI zealotry does serve to decrease the competition for those people who truly love radiology, weeding out the other specialists who in ten years will look back at the opportunity with lament, and try to convince everyone else then how they made the right decision by not going into a field that looks better than the one they picked out of fear. Because AI is “just around the corner,” or something.

 

[Steve_Zissou]

Maybe just best to let him spin his wheels.

I guess the AI zealotry does serve to decrease the competition for those people who truly love radiology, weeding out the other specialists who in ten years will look back at the opportunity with lament, and try to convince everyone else then how they made the right decision by not going into a field that looks better than the one they picked out of fear. Because AI is “just around the corner,” or something.

Isn’t there an IM guy who lurks here and does this?

 

[SeisK]

Isn’t there an IM guy who lurks here and does this?

Yeah I’ve not seen him for some time. I think there was a neurologist who was doing this too.

 

[ProReduction]

You pale pixel lovers rang? Don't make me post a link to another TED talk . . .

 

[SeisK]

You pale pixel lovers rang? Don't make me post a link to another TED talk . . .

Nah.

 

[Cognovi]

You pale pixel lovers rang? Don't make me post a link to another TED talk . . .

I love pale pixels! They brighten up my day.

 

[ProReduction]

I love pale pixels! They brighten up my day.

Absolutely brilliant