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say i'm hanging around watching a hockey game with friends who know that i know the game. i comment about something we're watching in the game and one of my friends is like "yeah whatever girls don't know hockey" hilarious right i can laugh at that because i'm pretty sure the person knows otherwise.

say i'm refereeing a high school boys game now. i call a penalty, one of the coaches disagrees (because they pretty much always do). so same exact comment, different context, not so hilarious. i'm getting paid to do a job and solely because of my outward appearance i'm being marginalized. or hell, just even say i'm watching the game with people who i don't really know that well and the same comment is made. or i'm talked over or ignored. these are things that really happen. and they are because of the exact same pervasive attitude that is conveyed in the joke that a friend of mine might have made earlier. .
Ah, but you see these are examples where someone is ACTING on the stereotype. They are dismissing your insight solely because of your sex, without knowing anything about your ability/talent/knowledge.. etc. This IS a classic case of sexism.

I agree with you on that.

On the other hand, if I say women generally don't know much about sports, especially hockey. That is not sexist. The bigots use their stereotypes to pre-judge people.

I don't think LIS was doing that. He was talking generalities.

By the way, I have lived overseas as a minority so maybe I have a little more insight than the typical white male of privilege?
 
I really miss my bf today. We skyped three times today - with my mom's family, my dad's family and just now alone. But it's just not the same. I feel terrible for leaving him in the US by himself on a holiday that is so family oriented for us. :/
 
Ah, but you see these are examples where someone is ACTING on the stereotype. They are dismissing your insight solely because of your sex, without knowing anything about your ability/talent/knowledge.. etc. This IS a classic case of sexism.

I agree with you on that.

On the other hand, if I say women generally don't know much about sports, especially hockey. That is not sexist. The bigots use their stereotypes to pre-judge people.

I don't think LIS was doing that. He was talking generalities.

but don't you see where the perpetuation of the stereotypes is harmful in and of itself?

my point is why do we HAVE to generalize?

By the way, I have lived overseas as a minority so maybe I have a little more insight than the typical white male of privilege?

hard for me to reconcile with the viewpoint that the perpetuation of generalizations based on things that are not personal choices is a-ok
 
I really miss my bf today. We skyped three times today - with my mom's family, my dad's family and just now alone. But it's just not the same. I feel terrible for leaving him in the US by himself on a holiday that is so family oriented for us. :/

So sorry, Pet Pony. It's never easy to leave loved ones behind, especially over the holidays. Having done this several times, I know how you must feel. At least Skype can help to fill the void a little bit. I hope you and he can still enjoy the holidays.
 
So sorry, Pet Pony. It's never easy to leave loved ones behind, especially over the holidays. Having done this several times, I know how you must feel. At least Skype can help to fill the void a little bit. I hope you and he can still enjoy the holidays.


I just wish he had someone to be with, but there is no family for him at all there. He was with a friend for part of the night, but it's just not the same. We're having our own Christmas Eve (that's when we celebrate Christmas in Germany) on New Year's Eve. So I am very excited for that.

My brother had to go back to the US early. He was supposed to be with his gf for Christmas, but she left to be with her family and left him by himself, too. Ughh. :[
 
but don't you see where the perpetuation of the stereotypes is harmful in and of itself?

my point is why do we HAVE to generalize?
No. I don't see stereotypes as harmful. They are observations, it is what people do with those observations that is harmful, and I disagree with the attempt to disabuse people of observations that they think are manifest.

Finally, perpetuation of stereotypes is inevitable because their are patterns of behavior by various groups. You are asking people to ignore those patterns' existence. I would say that is impossible.

We generalize in our lives to make sense of all sorts of things in the world. I would say it is hard wired in us, and impossible to survive without generalizing. Again, it is impossible to stop doing it.

I think that confusing the observation with the action is the most harmful. It obscures the truth, and becomes and argument over facts, instead of an argument over ethics. Fix the ethics, and you fix the problem.

Anyway.... we are never going to agree on the specifics here. Agree to disagree.

Happy Holidays all😀


One final point: I think there are certain things that people call "stereotypes" but are based on no observations, but just bias. I agree those things need to be challenged. Saying women are stupid, not fit to vote etc. That was based on bias, and was challenged and is no longer a stereotype. So I have no problem when people question whether a stereotype is in fact an accurate observation or just a bias. And also, how things are presented matters as well. To say urban blacks are dumb is a bias, to observe that urban blacks do not do as well on average on standardized tests is a pattern. A thoughtful person will examine why the pattern exists (schools, funding, etc), a biased person will use it as an insult. A racist judges all blacks as biased regardless of the conclusion here.

Perhaps I am focused too much on the general concept, and you are focused to much on the specific biases.
 
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Woke up to water leaking all over the second bedroom and part of the living room. D-bag above us forgot to turn his water off. Bedroom ruined and part of living room ruined. Best part: BF noticed small leak last night but didn't think it was necessary to call until morning.

Christmas is essentially ruined along with half our apartment. One good thing is the hamster cage is in the other bedroom or poor little Butterscotch might have drowned. 🙁
 
Took my cat to the vet the other day because he's been vomiting/regurgitating almost every day while trying to eat and looking like he's had difficulty swallowing. $750 later I know that he has some kind of soft tissue swelling on one side of his esophagus that may be pushing on it and causing the vomit/regurg reflex, one of his lung lobes is consolidated for a reason that no one knows yet, and his liver is small. He's been prescribed some famotidine and catlax to try to help with any constipation or high acidity and I'm softening his food with water. He struggles less to swallow the softened food, and I hadn't witnessed him vomit since he started eating it, until this morning.

I'm just really worried about him. Obviously all I can think is worst case scenerio, and that would be lymphoma. I'm trying not to freak out until I give the meds a little more time, get the rest of his test results back, and hear back from the radiologist at school.

The best Christmas present that I could get right now would be peace of mind that my baby is going to be ok.
 
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I hope your cat will be okay. Try to take your mind off of it a little bit today since you can't do anything to speed along the diagnosis. I hope for the best. Keep us posted.
 
Woke up to water leaking all over the second bedroom and part of the living room. (

Took my cat to the vet the other day because he's been vomiting/regurgitating almost every day while trying to eat and looking like he's had difficulty swallowing.

The best Christmas present that I could get right now would be peace of mind that my baby is going to be ok.

Sorry to hear this, guys. Horrible stuff any time, but especially over the holidays, Glad the hamster's okay Ky, and I hope things are okay with the kitty, Bearby.

My own personal (very small) rant: jet-lag combined with 8 hours of trying to sleep on a sofa bed that lists at a 20 degree angle, listening to entire household snoring in synchrony for 8 hours while trying to doze off and not roll onto floor. Must...get...some...sleep.... Or at least a whisky. Bah humbug. Grrr.
 
No. I don't see stereotypes as harmful. They are observations, it is what people do with those observations that is harmful, and I disagree with the attempt to disabuse people of observations that they think are manifest.

I can see your point but I don't agree with it. If it's so inevitable and impossible to stop doing, then why should we expect people not to act and treat people according to their pre-conceived notions? Isn't that just inevitable too? I mean come on, if say a math teacher is honestly 100% convinced that girls aren't as good at math as boys because they "think differently," are they not going to treat their students differently based on sex? Expecting them not to follow through with their beliefs is kinda laughable and it may not even be a conscious thing at all for that person. And it would hurt not only the girls who have great potential to learn math well by perhaps holding them back or being boring to them, but also the boys who may have more difficulty learning it as the teacher would probably expect more out of them. Again a subconscious bias is really hard to shake - the teacher wouldn't necessarily be acting out of malice. But it would still have an ill effect (and it has, actually).

Anyway.... we are never going to agree on the specifics here. Agree to disagree.

Isn't it a woman's job to be the pacifist mediator? :meanie:
 
The mall isn't open on Boxing Day. This is why I HATE my hometown. 😛.
 
Unfortunately.
We do not have Boxing Day sales.
We have "Boxing Week" sales.
What is up with that?
(I have been cooped up for 2 days... I am starting to go crazy :scared:)
 
Unfortunately.
We do not have Boxing Day sales.
We have "Boxing Week" sales.
What is up with that?
(I have been cooped up for 2 days... I am starting to go crazy :scared:)

I worked a shift in our equine center on xmas day, was over at school for a blood donor draw today, and have another equine center shift tomorrow....

... and I still miss school.

I'm irrational. I was really excited to be DONE and on break. And now I miss it.
 
Are you in Canada?

eh? We definately have boxing day - where you go shopping all day long <3 ....c'moooon we're not *that* foreign! 😉

sheesh... stupid small towns. And they wonder why no one shops local.... sorry- but I quite enjoy shopping late into the evening- and on holidays! 😡
 
sheesh... stupid small towns. And they wonder why no one shops local.... sorry- but I quite enjoy shopping late into the evening- and on holidays! 😡

It's not a small town thing in this case, it's a provincial thing. Some provinces (NB, NS, PEI, and I think there's others) mandate that retailers must close on Dec 26. We just shop on Dec 27 instead. 😉 I've never found it to be a big deal.
 
... and I still miss school.

I'm irrational. I was really excited to be DONE and on break. And now I miss it.

Me too. I was ready to go back last week. Still have two weeks of break to go. Not sure I can take it. Looking for things to do. I'm planning a scuba dive for New Years day - yeah, I'm that bored.
 
It's not a small town thing in this case, it's a provincial thing. NS retailers (and I think there's a few other provinces) must close on Dec 26. We just shop on Dec 27 instead. 😉 I've never found it to be a big deal.

yeah i was just referring to myself in the last sentence... but aren't the maritimes basically all giant small towns anyway? lol
 
I had to have my FELV+ cat, Kittah, euthanized today. It was inevitable, he had cutaneous lymphoma. The cancer was in remission, it seemed, but he got an upper respiratory infection that he just couldn't fight off. RIP, Kittah.
 
I had to have my FELV+ cat, Kittah, euthanized today. It was inevitable, he had cutaneous lymphoma. The cancer was in remission, it seemed, but he got an upper respiratory infection that he just couldn't fight off. RIP, Kittah.

So so sorry, Marsala...
 
I had to have my FELV+ cat, Kittah, euthanized today. It was inevitable, he had cutaneous lymphoma. The cancer was in remission, it seemed, but he got an upper respiratory infection that he just couldn't fight off. RIP, Kittah.

🙁 I'm sorry!!!
 
Thanks, jemappellejane and heylodeb. It sucks, but he had a good life while he was living with me, better than the construction site he was living on before.
 
Sorry Marsala...I'm right there with you missing a cat since we had ours put down on Friday. It's hard at this time of year, especially.
 
I'm sorry to hear. 🙁. Rest in peace little guy. Sounds like you gave him a great life.
 
Thanks, guys. I did my best, and he wasn't really, really sick until the end. My avatar is a picture of him in saucier, happier times.

Best cat ever, just chill and laid back. Wasn't bothered by anything. Didn't even need restraint for blood draws. He was my super trooper.
 
Thanks, guys. I did my best, and he wasn't really, really sick until the end. My avatar is a picture of him in saucier, happier times.

Best cat ever, just chill and laid back. Wasn't bothered by anything. Didn't even need restraint for blood draws. He was my super trooper.

AWWWW and such a cutie... 🙁
 
Thanks, guys. I did my best, and he wasn't really, really sick until the end. My avatar is a picture of him in saucier, happier times.

Best cat ever, just chill and laid back. Wasn't bothered by anything. Didn't even need restraint for blood draws. He was my super trooper.

so sorry marsala 🙁 i know exactly how you feel, i was just there in may, right before i graduated from college.

my avatar is a picture of my baby, who i had to say bye to -- he wasn't very sick until the end either...best dog ever -- he was bilingual and would always lick my tears away when i cried and sit next to me with his head on my lap when i was sad.

*hugs* to you really. i am SO SO sorry but i'm sure you gave him the best life possible.
 
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Sorry to hear about your kitty, Marsala 🙁 It sounds like you gave him the best life possible.
 
Thanks, guys. I did my best, and he wasn't really, really sick until the end. My avatar is a picture of him in saucier, happier times.

Best cat ever, just chill and laid back. Wasn't bothered by anything. Didn't even need restraint for blood draws. He was my super trooper.

He looks just as you described. What a sauce cuddlebox. :biglove: :hug:
 
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I totally understand.

My cat became ill last year (she was always borderline kidney cat, but surprisingly that was not what got her) and I was not there to assess her health and whether to do treatment. My co-worker Dr. W was helpful in saying (about 1.5 mo before the end of my semester) that she could be kept comfortable until I got back from school. Leading up to winter break she became progressively worse and no one at home bothered to tell me about her declining condition. Instead, the day I was driving home she died at with no assistance.

Sigh, I wish family could be trusted to make good decisions about pets or at least be honest about the care they are going to/are receiving.

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Also, people just dont get to know each other at work... I really feel that if you are working for them/hired you, they should have their trust in you and your ability to be fulfill roles within the veterinary filed. That means being supportive towards you and your goals. IF they have any hesitations, they should help you to grow and overcome those possible problems (not just be jerks about the application process and act like your not ready).
(if things still continue to suck) Chances are you can find a better work environment that appreciates you and is supportive.

I have done that before, I worked at a practice for years and became ticked off with how I was being treated. I applied for a job at a larger hospital and worked their for a year. When I came back a year later, they were much more appreciative and its been good since then.


I have two rants.

1. Since I lived in the dorms/a pet-free apartment my first two years of college, my parents have been taking care of my cat. In August I move into a cat-friendly apartment and can take him and they will never have to see him again. I have two younger siblings, and they have given the duty of feeding/giving the cat water to the older one since I've been gone. Every time I've been home and checked the cat's water bowl, he has had no water.

He's a older kitty, so you know, I'd prefer if he was hydrated all of the time. I've brought this up repeatedly, insisting that it's important that the cat gets water everyday. They've brushed me off like I'm overreacting and insisted that my sibling has been doing his duty daily (though it takes over 2 days for the cat to drink all of the water from his pretty sizable bowl).

I discovered he didn't have water for the umpteenth time the other day, and packed him up into his cat carrier with a week's worth of food. He is currently sitting next to me on the couch in my cat-forbidden apartment. I can't have a cat here and I'm taking a risk... but I can't in good conscience leave my animal in a situation where he is not being cared for. Not really sure what to do, since I've talked to my parents once and they are still insisting nothing is wrong.

2. One of my jobs sucks and my bosses are lame. One told me it would be a "blessing if you didn't get into vet school this year"... thanks. Because she totally knows me so well and has gone sooooo out of her way to understand my motivations and life goals. Not.
 
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I totally understand.

My cat became ill last year (she was always borderline kidney cat, but surprisingly that was not what got her) and I was not there to assess her health and whether to do treatment. My co-worker Dr. W was helpful in saying (about 1.5 mo before the end of my semester) that she could be kept comfortable until I got back from school. Leading up to winter break she became progressively worse and no one at home bothered to tell me about her declining condition. Instead, the day I was driving home she died at with no assistance.

Sigh, I wish family could be trusted to make good decisions about pets or at least be honest about the care they are going to/are receiving.

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Also, people just dont get to know each other at work... I really feel that if you are working for them/hired you, they should have their trust in you and your ability to be fulfill roles within the veterinary filed. That means being supportive towards you and your goals. IF they have any hesitations, they should help you to grow and overcome those possible problems (not just be jerks about the application process and act like your not ready).
(if things still continue to suck) Chances are you can find a better work environment that appreciates you and is supportive.

I have done that before, I worked at a practice for years and became ticked off with how I was being treated. I applied for a job at a larger hospital and worked their for a year. When I came back a year later, they were much more appreciative and its been good since then.

That post of mine is over a year old. :O

(thankfully both rants had happy endings-- I've been living in cat friendly apartments with my old man and new cat for 1.5 years, and I quit that job and got into vet school 😉 )
 
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I'm starting to wish I would have taken my Cornell application a little more seriously. I wasn't really all that excited to go there and pretty much applied since it is close (although its not actually my IS, I just moved here) and my boyfriend begged me to. We own a house here and he is finishing up school. We have 2 dogs and a cat, and the thought of leaving any of them is really starting to get to me now. Before, I didn't care and was all gung-ho about going wherever I get in and living somewhere new, and now I don't want to leave. :scared:
I will be thankful and excited wherever I get in, I just wish I would have spent more time on my application and essays, because I know I don't stand a chance now 🙁.
These next few months will be very bittersweet for me (assuming I get get news of course :xf:).
 
Emiloo - I'm sure those supplemental essays aren't the be-all and end-all of getting into Cornell. Keep hopeful about it. I am hoping to get in to Cornell, too. Maybe we'll be there soon!
 
Emiloo - I'm sure those supplemental essays aren't the be-all and end-all of getting into Cornell. Keep hopeful about it. I am hoping to get in to Cornell, too. Maybe we'll be there soon!

Yeah, but my GPA won't cut it with them either. If I would have planned on going to Cornell from the beginning, I would have worked harder for a better GPA, but I wasn't aiming that high and decided to have fun in college lol. I'm applying OOS with an average GPA so I don't think much will happen for me lol... I'll keep my fingers crossed for both of us though. Hopefully I'll see ya there! :xf:
 
We had a blocked kitty come in today who was only 9 years old. The owner couldn't afford the procedure and wasn't eligible for care credit because she just lost her house. I know clinics would go out of business if they helped every charity case that came their way, but boo hiss, it just sucks. They had to put him to sleep 🙁 Life really seems to kick people when they're already down. I tried to tell my family about it, but they don't understand. They think my clinic should have just done it all for free. It's difficult having to explain that the doctors aren't bad people. Blah that's my rant I figured you guys would understand.
 
We had a blocked kitty come in today who was only 9 years old. The owner couldn't afford the procedure and wasn't eligible for care credit because she just lost her house. I know clinics would go out of business if they helped every charity case that came their way, but boo hiss, it just sucks. They had to put him to sleep 🙁 Life really seems to kick people when they're already down. I tried to tell my family about it, but they don't understand. They think my clinic should have just done it all for free. It's difficult having to explain that the doctors aren't bad people. Blah that's my rant I figured you guys would understand.

Definately understand. gah I hate that- I used to work at an emerg hospital where *alot* of the cases had financial issues- we often saw the product of no vet care for the last 1/2 of the pets whole life. Really sad- we once had a dog come in with 2 ruptured cruciates and the owners euthanized because they couldn't afford sx. Dog was literally no older then 3! Worst part was that it was a sunday (go figure) and they had to sit in the waiting room bawling for ages because we had tons of other more critical stuff in.

At this other clinic I was at, a family came in with a HBC dog (kids were walking it, basically car nicked the dog and drove off)- no money, a day before christmas eve. Femur clean broke in 2, doc on duty decided to do it at a really reduced rate, and got in alot of trouble from owner of hospital/head doctor... : /

oh the joys
 
I hated course evaluations in UG (I mean, I know they're important but still doesn't change the fact that it's a PITA). BUT hooooooly ****es, evaluations in vet school are like 10x worse. Do we reeeeeeaaaaally need to evaluate eeeevery clinician that came in to give like 1-2 lectures? I don't even remember who half of these people are...
 
I hated course evaluations in UG (I mean, I know they're important but still doesn't change the fact that it's a PITA). BUT hooooooly ****es, evaluations in vet school are like 10x worse. Do we reeeeeeaaaaally need to evaluate eeeevery clinician that came in to give like 1-2 lectures? I don't even remember who half of these people are...

Right? Our cut-off here is 4 hours of lecture time, I think. I laughed when I was doing one class that listed instructors that *never actually presented any material*.
 
Right? Our cut-off here is 4 hours of lecture time, I think. I laughed when I was doing one class that listed instructors that *never actually presented any material*.

haha, yeah, I just had a "what did you think of the homework assignments?"

and my answer was "I wasn't aware there were such things..."
 
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