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Or - what if one of the actions that was tried against Alley was anvils and it got reflected back to the anvil person?
Nope, i lock people in my room to hang out. I can target anyone but can't target people on consecutive nights
I'm not exactly sure what happens when a wolf gets it because I don't think I've successfully given an orchid to one yet. The way it's worded makes me think it doesn't do anything to villagers because I weaken wolves, but all I am told is I approach them and give them a flower, or left the flower by the body, or couldn't get to them so I left the flower by the anvils.So the flowers weaken wolves ... meaning their action is less likely to be successful?
And nothing happens to a villager if you give them a flower?
we know that vetsplz got anviled last night. So far I think vetsplz is probably the most trustworthy person we have at this point, and i think both scanning and anvils would be WAY overpowered for one characterOr - what if one of the actions that was tried against Alley was anvils and it got reflected back to the anvil person?
Alley said they reflected on multiple nights, though, right?we know that vetsplz got anviled last night. So far I think vetsplz is probably the most trustworthy person we have at this point, and i think both scanning and anvils would be WAY overpowered for one character
OH sorry i misread - for some reason i thought you were specifically talking about last night. yes, that could be trueAlley said they reflected on multiple nights, though, right?
I think i did samac kra and then samacmeaning the same person on two consecutive nights (like, samac then samac again) or any person (like you need a rest night)
I think i did samac kra and then samac
Q: If you can only frame someone on odd nights, can you explain what happened on some of the even nights? aka: N4: yourself, N8: BreadSorry guys, have been pretty busy at work.
Since everyone is role revealing, I might as well. I'm not technically bugs, I just have the ability to "frame" someone in the write up odd nights, but its kind of useless because on the 1st night I had no idea, and when no info on people so my framing at first was random based on who I suspected to be wolves, and 2nd, once someone who is framed turns village no one trusts the framing, so I've just been using it to point to people I didn't think were wolves, like Lawpy, alley, and Random, since everyone would assume it was opposites. That's why on N5 I ended up framing myself, plus I figured it would soft confirm alleycat was who she said she was, which is why I believed her and haven't voted against her since. If you guys remember I offered that suggestion up before I did it, but seems like bread did too.
I wish I had more to add than that, but I really have no more info than what's been in the thread. I don't feel like I could be confident in Mammalade, April, shorty and TME being village, so I never named them. I think 1-2 of them are wolves, but like I said, I have no more info than what's in the thread.
I would just like to mention I was the first to offer this theory and had little supportThat's why on N5 I ended up framing myself
Did it say who you may have given it to? Or if anyone received the orchid at all?On N8 I tried to give one to April because I wasn’t sure about the vanillager claim but I ended up getting confused so I don’t think they got it.
Wow, those are quite the twists with your abilities. Really interesting - and makes the "using it up" remark make a lot more sense in context. I can also understand why you were suspicious of MY redirect given that yours is apparently less temperamental and more controllable.Mwuahaha, it's my turn for role reveal:
My character is awesome. I have multiple abilities that I can use, however I can only use each one once, and only once per day. That's why I am no longer able to use my blocking ability when lumya stole it; she must have 'used it up', and because my abilities are one-time-use, I was unable to use it after that. I used my other superpowers to find out who certain people; I'm the one who told samac that Hallowmann is 3p, and Alleycat is villager (I won't say what abilities they are, but you can assume).
So last night, I was SO sure mammalade was a wolf, so I used my redirect ability (yes, I do have one as well, but with mine I can choose who to redirect to, which is why I was so suspicious of Shorty for not being able to do the same) from mammalade to alleycat. When I asked the mods about my redirect ability, they told me it depends per game how exactly a redirect ability works and whether it can redirect kills or not. I hopefully assumed that my ability could redirect kills, and if mammalade tried to kill someone (anyone) or even anvil a player, it would be redirected to alleycat, then alleycat's reflect would either kill the wolf (I was actually really looking forward to this) or reflect the ability.
Now, when alleycat DIED you can imagine my horror; I was SO sure that I had successfully redirected mammalade from killing someone (idk who) to killing alleycat (which I felt incredibly bad about), so this morning I was so ready to yeet out mammalade. This was also why I was so sure this morning that we had 2 wolves still remaining; one (mammalade) to kill, and the other to use their anvil ability (which I did not redirect). But I wanted to hear his story first before telling my story, and especially everyone else's too because I wanted to figure out what happened during the night. I'm confused about mammal's story about what happened last night, because I would assume either if mammal had visited before alleycat then he would have recieved his own orchid instead, or if he visited alleycat after she died, she would have received the orchid on her dead body since she can no longer reflect (since she's dead). Idk what happened there, and I'm hoping mammal can clear things up soon.
Mammalade's story technically checks out. I can detect no lies or suspiciousness in his story. Plus, I trust that white orchid are a good sign. Bread's story also checks out (I think, if I didn’t miss anything), and I am certain Hallowmann is 3p (unless he has a disguising skill as well to hide his identity from me, which is certainly possible). Therefore, I am following logic that we are missing the owner of the anvil ability, which I'm sure belongs to April now. From the beginning, I have assumed that anvil=wolf (if you need reasoning, you can look back at my posts or I can say it again no problem). If I am wrong, I cry. But for now:
yeet April
TLDR: I am a powerful being with many skills but suck at reasoning so idk if I'm right but I double checked my notes so here ya go.
hehe sorry, this happens when I get too serious (if you know me in real life, you REALLY don't wanna play games with me cuz I get super duper extremely competitive)^I read your TL;DR
Your post is a way for a mod to miss a vote. Holy text wall
but that's what we NEED in this WW gamehehe sorry, this happens when I get too serious (if you know me in real life, you REALLY don't wanna play games with me cuz I get super duper extremely competitive)
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If only there was a good way to test that, maybe others would believe you are who you say
This is a good point - has anyone attempted an action on alley cat? There’s an hour left in the night if anyone has an ability that would let them safely test it...
Mwuahaha, it's my turn for role reveal:
My character is awesome. I have multiple abilities that I can use, however I can only use each one once, and only once per day. That's why I am no longer able to use my blocking ability when lumya stole it; she must have 'used it up', and because my abilities are one-time-use, I was unable to use it after that. I used my other superpowers to find out who certain people; I'm the one who told samac that Hallowmann is 3p, and Alleycat is villager (I won't say what abilities they are, but you can assume).
So last night, I was SO sure mammalade was a wolf, so I used my redirect ability (yes, I do have one as well, but with mine I can choose who to redirect to, which is why I was so suspicious of Shorty for not being able to do the same) from mammalade to alleycat. When I asked the mods about my redirect ability, they told me it depends per game how exactly a redirect ability works and whether it can redirect kills or not. I hopefully assumed that my ability could redirect kills, and if mammalade tried to kill someone (anyone) or even anvil a player, it would be redirected to alleycat, then alleycat's reflect would either kill the wolf (I was actually really looking forward to this) or reflect the ability.
Now, when alleycat DIED you can imagine my horror; I was SO sure that I had successfully redirected mammalade from killing someone (idk who) to killing alleycat (which I felt incredibly bad about), so this morning I was so ready to yeet out mammalade. This was also why I was so sure this morning that we had 2 wolves still remaining; one (mammalade) to kill, and the other to use their anvil ability (which I did not redirect). But I wanted to hear his story first before telling my story, and especially everyone else's too because I wanted to figure out what happened during the night. I'm confused about mammal's story about what happened last night, because I would assume either if mammal had visited before alleycat then he would have recieved his own orchid instead, or if he visited alleycat after she died, she would have received the orchid on her dead body since she can no longer reflect (since she's dead). Idk what happened there, and I'm hoping mammal can clear things up soon.
Mammalade's story technically checks out. I can detect no lies or suspiciousness in his story. Plus, I trust that white orchid are a good sign. Bread's story also checks out (I think, if I didn’t miss anything), and I am certain Hallowmann is 3p (unless he has a disguising skill as well to hide his identity from me, which is certainly possible). Therefore, I am following logic that we are missing the owner of the anvil ability, which I'm sure belongs to April now. From the beginning, I have assumed that anvil=wolf (if you need reasoning, you can look back at my posts or I can say it again no problem). If I am wrong, I cry. But for now:
yeet April
TLDR: I am a powerful being with many skills but suck at reasoning so idk if I'm right but I double checked my notes so here ya go.
Oh, did you get a message saying that someone "looked really closely" at you? That's coolRandom must have been the one that "looked really closely at" me one of the nights. To be honest I've been sus of April for a while, ever since she was really defending Visc that night and trying to shift towards others.
Drive safe, there's some bad storms in different areas. You still have 3.5 more hrsHoly crap at least let me get home to defend myself first
For nowI will join in on this. I have a feeling that the anvils are bad and it is currently unaccounted for.
###yeet April###
Same for me, though I have these superpowers I am really bad at reasoning and using them well (as can be seen by my voting patterns, oops) so I may be swayed with good evidence.For now
Interesting! Maybe it was the combination of death and alleycat's reflect ability that made it so confusingAll my write-up from the mods says is that I was going to April, then I got lost and then I also got confused. It seems like I kept the orchid because it didn't specifically say I approached someone with it or gave it to anyone. I wasn't specifically told I gave it to myself tho, just that I was confused in the hallways with the orchid
The last time someone was dead I still gave them the flower though, so maybe this time I got there before alleycat died and that was what confused me and caused me to seemingly keep the flower?Interesting! Maybe it was the combination of death and alleycat's reflect ability that made it so confusing
Nope, held fast to the vanillager claimHas April claimed one of the abilities that we have confirmed exist yet? Anvils are still unaccounted for i think
I held to vanillager until todayNope, held fast to the vanillager claim
(I realize the irony in that I'm the one saying this)
That's when I realized that I would definitely have to keep up while I was at work for the following weeks, especially considering that 400 mile drive was hours shorter than my typical work day. Those of you who work in vet hospitals (and human, probably) might understand how difficult it is to be on your phone during work hours. When calls stop coming in for five seconds, I might think I have a minute to read posts, then someone yells for me to come hold a fractious cat. The only way I was going to keep up and participate was by skimming hard core and posting with the knowledge I assumed I had retained correctly. Even on my lunch breaks, I definitely don't have the time to go back and re-read everything, because my lunch breaks are always interrupted by some dummy client knocking on the door instead of calling in.I checked in this morning when there were three pages, went on a 400 mile drive, and now there are six pages. I've got some catching up to do![]()
See? Now I’m confused againHome now! I guess I should start with an official role reveal even though I already told you all my affiliation days ago. I'm CatDog, a vanilla villager. The mods put in my initial role description that my vote is my only weapon. As mentioned before, my manator said I could send silly "actions" for the fun of it. Since I'm not a particularly creative person, I only did that twice: N1, Dog and Cat discussed where in their body the anal glands might be. Mods noted it and that night I was surrounded by anvils (unrelated, of course). N4, Dog found some stuffed shells and ate too many. Mods said I narrowly missed a close call with pancreatitis (such fantastic vet mods!). This is 100% of the content in my role chat. Nothing has happened in it for so long that it no longer pops up in my messages dropdown.
When the game started, I thought for sure I'd be able to keep up by reading everything when I got home and then getting involved. That's what I did the first day of the game, and obviously, that didn't go over well since I came back to hundreds of responses to read:
That's when I realized that I would definitely have to keep up while I was at work for the following weeks, especially considering that 400 mile drive was hours shorter than my typical work day. Those of you who work in vet hospitals (and human, probably) might understand how difficult it is to be on your phone during work hours. When calls stop coming in for five seconds, I might think I have a minute to read posts, then someone yells for me to come hold a fractious cat. The only way I was going to keep up and participate was by skimming hard core and posting with the knowledge I assumed I had retained correctly. Even on my lunch breaks, I definitely don't have the time to go back and re-read everything, because my lunch breaks are always interrupted by some dummy client knocking on the door instead of calling in.
That's why I don't always have my facts straight. I'm not trying to deceive anyone. If I was, I wouldn't be so willing to say "oh crap, you're completely right" every time someone points out something I said wrong.
I would hope y'all have noticed that I've never had any concrete evidence to provide to anyone. As I've said before, that's because all the information I have is what I've gathered from this thread and nowhere else. Every time I've suggested someone for a yeet, I've made it clear that I'm flying by the seat of my pants and am very willing to listen to the other side of the argument.
I'll dive into vote history now because I'm sure that wasn't convincing enough for all of you.
SameSee? Now I’m confused again
What is the evidence that anvils are clearly wolf things to begin with? I know Random mentioned it, but I don't remember why. Wily coyote?I feel like this is weirdly specific, and also it would be dumb for a wolf to keep claiming to be a vanilla villager right now. But also, if a lot of us are all determined that April has anvils and also that it's a wolf thing then they might not want to tell us if that's what they do because of the implications. The funny night actions could be made up to add some bit of credibility by naming something oddly specific or could actually be the straight up truth idk. This is really confusing.
Day 2 yeet: Sunshine. Yes, a villager, unfortunately. A lot of villagers voted for Sun, not just me. I jumped on the bandwagon because I had literally no evidence to point me in a different direction except for the Bugs announcement and Lawpy's signaling, which at the time seemed quite credible. As usual, I was wishy washy and understood both sides but ended up going with the "trust Lawpy, yeet Sun" thinking:I'm not sure about anything but I don't think it is inherently suspicious. Sloth wasn't even on the ballot for a while until everyone wanted to push their vote onto someone who didn't have kids/had more time. Sloth just happened to be the first who fit the criteria.
Day 3 yeet: jhmmd. Yes, a villager, but everyone knows how strange they were acting. At the time, they were not revealed as a mason yet. I completely wasted my vote as the only person voting for them and didn't join any bandwagon. If I was wolf, I assume I'd want to have some influence with my vote, but since I was completely unsure because I'm a vanillager with no insight and I was afraid of yeeting another villager after day 2, I just threw my vote onto someone I was sus of. At first my vote was on bio as default, but after Mammal's post about jhmmd being sus, I switched because I really didn't think bio was a good yeet candidate.All caught up!
Maybe I've forgotten a key bit of information in my quick reading, but does someone have a good reason we should be trusting Lawpy right now? This is a genuine question, not rhetorical, not trying to seed suspicion in Lawpy. By some mechanism they have been silenced, and for some reason that makes everyone think Lawpy must either be the one who threw Sun under the bus and/or is the innocent victim of a wolf silencing them. Perhaps Lawpy is a wolf and has found an interesting way of manipulating us. This is just food for thought.
Up until this last page, I was thinking of yeeting one of the quiet people because we're still just kind of throwing our votes around until we have more reason for suspicion. I figured if we're likely to accidentally yeet an innocent villager, it might at least be an innocent villager who isn't contributing much. I do understand today I was one of the quiet ones! I was out of work last week and today being my first day back, things were a bit cray cray. But I digress.
Even though I am not completely sure of Lawpy's intentions, for whatever reason I am inclined to think they know something we don't AND are acting for the sake of the villagers, so
Yeet sunshine.
Day 3 mayor vote: I had a hard time choosing between Samac and Enigma as I liked both, but I especially liked how analytical Enigma was. We still don't know for sure what Enigma is.@mammalade, I do remember the post you're referencing, though I don't have the time to go digging for it, and I also don't remember hearing a response about that. I feel like I'm swinging blindly all over the place, but since I have to head to a D&D session now and likely won't be back before 9 -
Unyeet biomajor
Yeet jhmmd
Will continue with vote analysis, just didn't want to make one huge sheet of text.I think that Samac (can I just call you Salad? That's what my phone keeps autocorrecting to and it's hard to correct while I'm working) and Tele are both good mayor candidates and I'm having a hard time choosing. I like Tele's analysis though so I guess that's where I'm leaning right now.
Vote TelemarketingEnigma for mayor
I don't know that there is hard evidence, but the fact that no villager is owning up to it makes it really suspicious to me. Anvils were used on wolves twice (supposedly april and mayo) but there's a chance they used that as cover in case this exact discussion came up. It does seem like it may have been used to block vetsplz from scanning anyone last night. If it were used as a protective measure, seems like something someone would own up to it and say that's what their goal wasYou know I have to say the worst/best part of the game is feeling super inclined to believe everyone. Everytime someone talks, I seriously doubt my previous thoughts and decisions.
What is the evidence that anvils are clearly wolf things to begin with? I know Random mentioned it, but I don't remember why. Wily coyote?
Think it would be better to try and pull doubt on anothers powers from how they have spokenDay 1 mayor vote: M935, a villager. I got a strange vibe from Mayo even though there was a big push to vote for them initially. My M935 vote was early and then I wasn't on at all for the whole day (driving 400 miles), and I would have changed it to Sloth, a villager, but it was already close to the cutoff point and it was obvious Sloth was going to win anyway. Some people were already sus of Sloth but I defended them:
Day 2 yeet: Sunshine. Yes, a villager, unfortunately. A lot of villagers voted for Sun, not just me. I jumped on the bandwagon because I had literally no evidence to point me in a different direction except for the Bugs announcement and Lawpy's signaling, which at the time seemed quite credible. As usual, I was wishy washy and understood both sides but ended up going with the "trust Lawpy, yeet Sun" thinking:
Day 3 yeet: jhmmd. Yes, a villager, but everyone knows how strange they were acting. At the time, they were not revealed as a mason yet. I completely wasted my vote as the only person voting for them and didn't join any bandwagon. If I was wolf, I assume I'd want to have some influence with my vote, but since I was completely unsure because I'm a vanillager with no insight and I was afraid of yeeting another villager after day 2, I just threw my vote onto someone I was sus of. At first my vote was on bio as default, but after Mammal's post about jhmmd being sus, I switched because I really didn't think bio was a good yeet candidate.
Day 3 mayor vote: I had a hard time choosing between Samac and Enigma as I liked both, but I especially liked how analytical Enigma was. We still don't know for sure what Enigma is.
Will continue with vote analysis, just didn't want to make one huge sheet of text.
I thought that they would have went for you which is why i did not protect vetplz. With alley gone though my near perfect defence is goneI don't know that there is hard evidence, but the fact that no villager is owning up to it makes it really suspicious to me. Anvils were used on wolves twice (supposedly april and mayo) but there's a chance they used that as cover in case this exact discussion came up. It does seem like it may have been used to block vetsplz from scanning anyone last night. If it were used as a protective measure, seems like something someone would own up to it and say that's what their goal was
Ugh there's just an hour and some change left and I don't feel any strong pull towards anyone. I'm not yeeting bio tonight unless someone miraculously has a really good reason. I think vet01 is misguided but innocent.
For now,
Yeet booksandshoes
Because they're jumping on biomajor without much reason and it maybe seems like a last-minute wolfy vote to try to make sure biomajor does in fact get yeeted. Does anyone have any evidence or good reason not to suspect?
My reasoning for books was that they threw their vote onto bio relatively close to the cutoff point for tonight's yeet and they didn't give an explanation on bio. It seems like something a wolf or 3p would do to solidify a vote on a villager, especially when people are starting to move off of bio and look for alternatives.
*wolf defenseI thought that they would have went for you which is why i did not protect vetplz. With alley gone though my near perfect defence is gone