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this whole thread is full of BS...
and no WS I am not going to put an entire list of cleared players up when we are this early in the game, FFS

anybody want a peanut?

LetItSnow said:
It's inconceivable that you would forget to comment about using yer brain and how it's the lump three feet above your arse. Or something like that.
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I already used this in thread just for you a few days back....
did you miss it? I must give you some flack....
 
LetItSnow said:
But it's so simple! All you have to do is divine from what you know of me: am I the sort of wolf who would vote to lynch another wolf, or a villager? Now, a clever wolf would vote for another wolf, because I would know that only a great fool would vote for the same target as the wolf. You are not a great fool, though, so clearly you would not vote for the same target as me. But I know that you know that I know you are not a great fool; so I would have counted on it, so you clearly would vote for the same lynch as me!
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this post #winning
 
devyn said:
I already used this in thread just for you a few days back....
did you miss it? I must give you some flack....
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Oh, the sot has spoken. What happens here is not truly your concern. I will kill you. And remember this, never forget this: when I found you, you were so slobbering drunk, you couldn't buy Brandy!

Now, unless you're playing the role of devyn this game, shaddup.
 
LetItSnow said:
It's inconceivable that you would forget to comment about using yer brain and how it's the lump three feet above your arse. Or something like that.
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Aye, but I don't speak Irish fluently. I'm still learning. Scottish on the other hand:

Yer an eejit und a numpty. An you've a a face like a skelpit erse.
 
Okay like STL said, I'm a lurker as well. I actually popped out part of my role description way earlier in the thread and in the message I started with my groupmates earlier in the game when I was fishing to see if any other lurkers were in the game.

And STL, as for my voting for SOV - I am aware there are some repercussions on you if he goes down, but when I logged in earlier the first thing I saw was that someone was outting him as a wolf (which is a ridiculous ploy as a wolf so early in the game as someone else said), so I voted for him because he would have to go down if he was a wolf regardless of any repercussions on you (and I'm guessing the repercussions won't be all that severe from what you've told me). Granted now it's a bit more confusing with what SOV has said in response to the Mrs, so I want to think, but I do think SOV is a more likely convert target, and I'm probably sticking with my vote choice. Either way, a wolf is going down this round or next round so I'm happy.
 
devyn said:
this whole thread is full of BS...
and no WS I am not going to put an entire list of cleared players up when we are this early in the game, FFS

anybody want a peanut?



I already used this in thread just for you a few days back....
did you miss it? I must give you some flack....
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Fine, let's not narrow down the original wolves further. It's already down to 6 or so, anyways. Do as you want. You're always right and I'm always wrong. If MrsSOV or SOV have been converted, wolves already know everything we know(minus your groups knowledge of course)
 
LetItSnow said:
My new resurrected role is lurker! Somebody's lying!
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Elf-You-sit-on-a-throne-of-lies.gif
 
wolfspeaker said:
Fine, let's not narrow down the original wolves further. It's already down to 6 or so, anyways. Do as you want. You're always right and I'm always wrong. If MrsSOV or SOV have been converted, wolves already know everything we know(minus your groups knowledge of course)
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why don't you get the stick out your ass....
cause it is not all about you all the time, sometimes I am just stating an opinion... stop your sass
 
DVMDream said:
Does it madder? Can u not jus trst me they be clear?
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That's fine. As long as it's not someone in the short list that needs to be looked at. And if they are, you can somehow get the information to everyone that needs it, so they don't RE-look at the same person.

That's all I care about. How you go about that, I don't care.
 
wolfspeaker said:
That's fine. As long as it's not someone in the short list that needs to be looked at. And if they are, you can somehow get the information to everyone that needs it, so they don't RE-look at the same person.

That's all I care about. How you go about that, I don't care.
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Cunsiderin that if SOV ends up beein a wolf. I find the short list to be perhaps... not sumthin we shuld be referrin to, specially since he dun typed it up. Just a suggestin, since probably not good idear to go off a list made by a ooolf.
 
DVMDream said:
Cunsiderin that if SOV ends up beein a wolf. I find the short list to be perhaps... not sumthin we shuld be referrin to, specially since he dun typed it up. Just a suggestin, since probably not good idear to go off a list made by a ooolf.
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OMG you people are not following very well!
Yes, SOV posted the list, HOWEVER the list is based on the investigations that *I* was privy to. It is based on what *I* know, not information that only SOV had.

If SOV hadn't posted it, I was going to.

Everyone that is NOT on that list(except MrsSOV), was investigated!! And not by SOV!
 
So, you guys really want to take the chance of losing 2 villagers this lynch?
 
Official Lynch Tally

SOV 10 (MrsSOV, dyachei, hedgie, Cyndia, TRH, DocE, W, DVMD, devyn, LIS)
MrsSOV 7 (SOV, Lupin, SnS, STL, X, WS, kaydubs)
LIS 0
Tuckervet 1 (Y)
STL 1 (Z)
 
wolfspeaker said:
So, you guys really want to take the chance of losing 2 villagers this lynch?
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Why dun u think bout what has happnd?

Do u rlly blve Mrs SOV would pull a move like this as a wolf?

Do u thnk by now oolves have prbably converted smeone?

I thnk it unlkly Mrs. SOV claim sumthin this ridiculus. I thnk it more likly that SOV is tryin to create drama and distraction to get out er the lunch. He has dun such tactics bfore so this wuld not surprize me.

That is my thught. And seems most approriate to me.
 
Cyndia said:
I honestly don't think we'd lose STL if SOV is taken out - I'm pretty sure she would just lose her ability to vote (which she didn't really have in the first place since SOV controlled her votes).
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So not as bad, BUT if SOV is a villager, we lost TWO votes.

I would think the wolves would choose MrsSOV over SOV for the same reason you guys say I would be converted. For the simple fact that villagers would think wolves wouldnt' do that. We all think SOV is a great person to convert, the wolves know that so they choose someone we wouldn't think would be converted.
 
OK, looking back on MrsSOV's posts...

D4/N4 MrsSOV was gone altogether(previous post was on Sunday at 5:57pm CST, next post was on Tuesday at 3:25pm CST)
D5 MrsSOV voted for WTF(at 3:40pm CST), then 8 minutes later changed to Haxx.

She also has done ZERO strategizing on thread. All posts are fluff or voting.

SOV HAS been strategizing. He HAS been helping the villagers in the open.
 
My brain is full of ducks (ToS adherant comment!).

Going through my own little DocE suspicion list SOV is more clean than MrsSOV (she loses points for silence), but not by a lot. Both are pretty middle of the road, which is rarely a wolf. One of them had to be converted. So um..... I have no clue.

Not really wanting to kill two players if this thing about taking Mrs sov with him is true. Gonna need time to see if anything changes my mind, but right now it seems like SOV was my vote before and it's a shot in the dark who is converted. I generally trust the person who went first to the claim of seeding a wolf, but SOV sells his end well.

Damn you old man!!
 
DVMDream said:
Why dun u think bout what has happnd?

Do u rlly blve Mrs SOV would pull a move like this as a wolf?

Do u thnk by now oolves have prbably converted smeone?

I thnk it unlkly Mrs. SOV claim sumthin this ridiculus. I thnk it more likly that SOV is tryin to create drama and distraction to get out er the lunch. He has dun such tactics bfore so this wuld not surprize me.

That is my thught. And seems most approriate to me.
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I agree MrsSOV probably isn't experienced enough to have done it all on her own…
but you act like there are no other wolves.

What would you do as a wolf if MrsSOV reported in that I was about to investigate one of us (Doc) or maybe worried I suspected her.
If you had a way of tracking you would find out who I was investigating and make them report results first.

You keep on thinking like this is happening in isolation, it is not.

Look at ALL the evidence.
* MrsSOV logged in/posted way earlier than usual.
* She didn't know the proper name of the item used.
* I have been VERY recently cleared. I would literally have had to be cleared.. converted… and investigated immediately. THAT is quite a lot of coincidences
* ANd who would convert me AGAIN so early in a game.

I agree someone is converted.. just not me.
I think you all are so biased against me cause of last game (and others), that you can't even conceive of someone setting me up, and I am telling the truth in these scenarios. I appreciate the thought, but you are being played.

But anyway, the most important part of my role was my connection to Kaydubs.. so lynching me isn't that big a deal…. We have done a good job of winnowing down the wolves (if you would just stop disbelieving every word WS says - although now you can just ask kaydubs directly).
Still, better to lynch a wolf than a villagers.

So this is what I propose, as I see the tide is against me…..

I don't want to hurt the villager cause… at this point it is more important villagers win than I live… but I still want to play..

So…
Let's all lynch WTF now. Gotta get rid of her some point.. and this time is convenient for me… and with all the sticking up I did for her, I see how she has done nothing for me..

Then tonight….. someone neutral can investigate one of the SOVs…
Then we 100% get a wolf… and we don't lose ANY more villagers.
It seems the best strategy for all of us.

The only downside is if there was a reason the wolves needed one more night for a conversion or something…. but I don't think y'all are going to waffle anyway.

What say you guys?

unlynch MrsSOV
lynch WTF.
 
SOV has been trying to help villagers openly on thread the last 2 days. I do not believe he has been converted.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Then tonight….. someone neutral can investigate one of the SOVs…
Then we 100% get a wolf… and we don't lose ANY more villagers.
It seems the best strategy for all of us.

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You sggst tht we dun lynch one of you which would immeditly tell us who the oolf is. Then u sggst we have to invstigte one of u two again. Not nly that but u sggst we lunch chaos OVER the othr known wolf as a solutin for this?

I dun thnk u bleve me to be that silly to follow alng. But I be drunk so maybe you tryin to tak advntge of me impaired judgment.
 
DVMDream said:
You sggst tht we dun lynch one of you which would immeditly tell us who the oolf is. Then u sggst we have to invstigte one of u two again. Not nly that but u sggst we lunch chaos OVER the othr known wolf as a solutin for this?

I dun thnk u bleve me to be that silly to follow alng. But I be drunk so maybe you tryin to tak advntge of me impaired judgment.
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You are right.. it does waste an investigation. I was thinking more in terms of time though. Have to lynch WTF at SOME point… and it sacrifices an investigation to get a certainty of wolf. I guess it comes down to what is more important… preserving a villager (or 0.5 villager statistically) or an investigation. We have multiple investigatory items and only about 5 or 6 candidates left to investigate so to me (whose butt is on the line) it seems a fair trade off.

I could see you thinking otherwise. Certainly in endgame this would not work where there are few investigations left, but this early in the game I don't see much harm.
 
StartingoverVet said:
You are right.. it does waste an investigation. I was thinking more in terms of time though. Have to lynch WTF at SOME point… and it sacrifices an investigation to get a certainty of wolf. I guess it comes down to what is more important… preserving a villager (or 0.5 villager statistically) or an investigation. We have multiple investigatory items and only about 5 or 6 candidates left to investigate so to me (whose butt is on the line) it seems a fair trade off.

I could see you thinking otherwise. Certainly in endgame this would not work where there are few investigations left, but this early in the game I don't see much harm.
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I do thnk u are missin the other point in me prvious statment.

U wnt me to lynch CHAOS ovr the other knwon oolf (LIS)???? Tht be very suspicious. At lest if u make suggstin to sve ur butt make a good case. U defintly have me thinkin ur converted by pickin WTF ovr LIS to toss undr the bus.
 
DVMDream said:
I do thnk u are missin the other point in me prvious statment.

U wnt me to lynch CHAOS ovr the other knwon oolf (LIS)???? Tht be very suspicious. At lest if u make suggstin to sve ur butt make a good case. U defintly have me thinkin ur converted by pickin WTF ovr LIS to toss undr the bus.
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To be fair, when I read what he wrote I had forgotten about LIS. I forgot we still needed to get rid of him, AGAIN.

Unlynch MrsSOV, Lynch LIS
 
DVMDream said:
I do thnk u are missin the other point in me prvious statment.

U wnt me to lynch CHAOS ovr the other knwon oolf (LIS)???? Tht be very suspicious. At lest if u make suggstin to sve ur butt make a good case. U defintly have me thinkin ur converted by pickin WTF ovr LIS to toss undr the bus.
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I would agree to lynch LIS… Hell, I was one of the only people trying to do that yesterday if you recall. I just figured that would be a harder sell because most of you think he is alpha and unlynchable.

As for WTF, yesterday my thinking on her changed for 2 reasons…
1) On the possibility she may have been the one to resurrected LIS. It seems possible.
2) More so because I specifically called her out in a message and asked her to commit to the villagers and be more like the SOV chaos type… TWO times. and she ignored both my messages. Maybe you don't think it is much, but I think she decided she wants to play chaos the way SHE usually plays it (and I know from modding games with her as chaos) and she doesn't want to commit to helping us. Sometimes it is hard to lie straight out…. and people avoid it if possible. So I concluded yesterday that she is not going to play nice with us. FWIW.

also 3) like I mentioned earlier. No one (outside of you) was a bigger champion for keeping her around, and i find it disturbing she doesn't do or say anything on my behalf. Even if she can't know I am a villager, in that kind of role a "decent" chaos person should support those who were on her side. This I admit is a little petty… but #2 is what really got my goat yesterday.
 
StartingoverVet said:
You keep on thinking like this is happening in isolation, it is not.

Look at ALL the evidence.
1. MrsSOV logged in/posted way earlier than usual.
2. She didn't know the proper name of the item used.
3. I have been VERY recently cleared. I would literally have had to be cleared.. converted… and investigated immediately. THAT is quite a lot of coincidences
4. ANd who would convert me AGAIN so early in a game.

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1. I tnd to log n earlr when I had good itm day bfr to see if I got any good info
2. Once an tem had ben stated on thrd it isn't lke other ppl used its full name. Speclly since it seems the name be lng. I hav not had the wood so I don't now.
3. It has happnd befre. Sm1 was evn kild once the same night thy were convrtd.
4. LIS wuld.


U also assumd the wlvs can track. N' u also assum the wlves wuld not just let whovr is invstigted go down. (Tht is what I uld have done if I wer a wolf, just let the oolf go down instd of try som odd heroics. Or just attmpt to kill the person whit the itm.)
 
DVMDream said:
I do thnk u are missin the other point in me prvious statment.

U wnt me to lynch CHAOS ovr the other knwon oolf (LIS)???? Tht be very suspicious. At lest if u make suggstin to sve ur butt make a good case. U defintly have me thinkin ur converted by pickin WTF ovr LIS to toss undr the bus.
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Also keep in mnd that SOV was lynching LIS yesterday. And did NOT want us to lynch JDH.
 
DVMDream said:
U also assumd the wlvs can track. N' u also assum the wlves wuld not just let whovr is invstigted go down. (Tht is what I uld have done if I wer a wolf, just let the oolf go down instd of try som odd heroics.
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The tracking is the obvious solution to ME… because how else did MrsSOV know I was investigating her.
Sit in my shoes..
You investigate someone…
then the EXACT person you investigate accuses you on the thread minutes before you check in to get your results.

The only conclusion is that they somehow knew what was happening.
Tracking is the obvious conclusion. Could be some other power. I don't know.

But again… think if you were in my shoes how it would all look.


Again… if a wolf is going to go down… why should they take it lying down. If they had the means to track me… and the person going down can turn the table, what do they have to lose. It makes no sense for them to do nothing with the information. ( i am sure they would have killed me if they could…).
 
MrsSOV has done nothing that I know of to help villagers and is not strategizing on thread at all.

SOV has repeatedly been helping villagers in the open, on thread. And was trying to get LIS lynched again yesterday and trying to save JDH.

Why are we still trying to keep MrsSOV around? Or LIS for that matter.

I don't care which of the two goes today, but one of them needs to go.
 
The other thing in my favor is, I posted ALL of this info that I am discussing shortly after MrsSOV, cause it was obvious to ME what happened, it is not like I have been changing my story to fill in the facts as the day goes on. Look back at my original post or 2.
 
DVMDream said:
We dun evn know if this is tru. It is he-said/she-said, 1 of u invistigted teh othr, which 1 I dun know. But I just don see mrs. SOV doin this. I culd be wrong, but I jus don't see her pulling this stunt.
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One last question and then I stop.
Do you see DocEspana pulling this stunt?
Or LIS pulling this stunt?
Or a collaboration of them pulling this stunt?
 
StartingoverVet said:
The other thing in my favor is, I posted ALL of this info that I am discussing shortly after MrsSOV, cause it was obvious to ME what happened, it is not like I have been changing my story to fill in the facts as the day goes on. Look back at my original post or 2.
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Precisely.
Rojo posted Night results at 7:19am CST.
MrsSOV posted hher "results" at 7:51am CST
SOV posted his rebuttal and "story" at 8:08am CST

Hardly enough time to fake a story like the one he posted.
 
StartingoverVet said:
One last question and then I stop.
Do you see DocEspana pulling this stunt?
Or LIS pulling this stunt?
Or a collaboration of them pulling this stunt?
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Yes, I could, but nly if they relly are able to track or othrwise figur out who u wer invistigatin. And that is whre i hav an issu, that is a big stretch assumin thry can do tht.
 
wolfspeaker said:
Precisely.
Rojo posted Night results at 7:19am CST.
MrsSOV posted hher "results" at 7:51am CST
SOV posted his rebuttal and "story" at 8:08am CST

Hardly enough time to fake a story like the one he posted.
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it took me less time to design my take of this whole game than the time between those posts... :heckyeah:
 
wolfspeaker said:
Precisely.
Rojo posted Night results at 7:19am CST.
MrsSOV posted hher "results" at 7:51am CST
SOV posted his rebuttal and "story" at 8:08am CST

Hardly enough time to fake a story like the one he posted.
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I tink u underestmate SOV.

Ok, I have to stop for a while, must go rest. Too much drunken onion.
 
There is an item that can track... If wolves had that item last night, I can totally see it. But, I also konw who had it...
And if they are a wolf, that person is either converted or my role results really are bogus.
 
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