Smash Bros WW Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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@genny Anything to say? I saw you liking things earlier.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Elfabeth Can you ask Fern why she's voting for Stagg today?

 

[DVMDream]

Well, if Fern's village and surrounded by wolves then she's SOL to begin with. Wouldn't it be easier for wolves to comply with her during the day and kill her at night? Why make the scene?

Um, this was in reference to Paws asking MJ to speak with WZ and him voting who she tells him she thinks is suspicious. This didn't have anything to do with Fern.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Um, this was in reference to Paws asking MJ to speak with WZ and him voting who she tells him she thinks is suspicious. This didn't have anything to do with Fern.

Okay, I thought you quoted me.

 

[DVMDream]

No but if he doesn't give a **** on d2.... Why not get at least an opinion and/or a top 4?

It is most likely less that he "doesn't give a ****" and more likely that he literally has no time. And you don't blindly follow anyone's opinion regardless of if you aren't posting because you are busy or because you "don't give a ****" because we need every villager possibly.

What if WZ is a wolf and she convinces him to lynch in an unfavorable direction? Huh?

We just got done telling noobs to think for themselves, why would you encourage someone to get info and guidance on who to lynch from another player that we can't know if they are wolf or not?

 

[DVMDream]

Okay, I thought you quoted me.

If I did, I didn't mean to.

 

[bryndiana.jones]

I was only getting mild feels yesterday from KC and BBC, with most feels for Mixy. Posted about that earlier.

Side note, why did you post reads on so many people so early?

Dubz has been far more sassy than usual so my votes going there for now

Lynch Dubz

Also could got for MOOSE, as those early reads were kinda overkill for D1.

Jboo, why are you on Moose for posting so many reads? Would you rather have her keep them to herself? Do you have any other reason for voting WZ?

 

[WildZoo]

It is most likely less that he "doesn't give a ****" and more likely that he literally has no time. And you don't blindly follow anyone's opinion regardless of if you aren't posting because you are busy or because you "don't give a ****" because we need every villager possibly.

What if WZ is a wolf and she convinces him to lynch in an unfavorable direction? Huh?

We just got done telling noobs to think for themselves, why would you encourage someone to get info and guidance on who to lynch from another player that we can't know if they are wolf or not?

That was more along the lines of what my commentary would have been. He knows better than to trust me that much anyway.

 

[JustPaws]

We just got done telling noobs to think for themselves, why would you encourage someone to get info and guidance on who to lynch from another player that we can't know if they are wolf or not?

I wasn't encouraging him, I was asking why he didn't. I wanted to see what his response was. Sometimes people ask things to get responses to get a feeling if they are being truthful, not "well why didn't you you just do this"

 

[MixedAnimals77]

When I get to my computer later tonight/tomorrow will do more reads, but briefly-DVMD seems villagey to me. PBC maybe I'm just salty but feels there. Elfa pingy but maybe just squirley noob. Do not like jboos stuff currently. Wz and pip are currently neutral along with mel. I feel like AM knows something more than she's letting on. Dolphin seems village. Still getting most feels from cray.
###lynch cray###

 

[jaboo]

I’ll be on a plane when lynch close happens and I’m leaving in a few minutes. I’ll try to rapid fire answer questions.

Unlynch Dubz
Lynch MOOSE

 

[jaboo]

Jboo, why are you on Moose for posting so many reads? Would you rather have her keep them to herself? Do you have any other reason for voting WZ?

Because it was freakin D1

 

[genny]

@genny Anything to say? I saw you liking things earlier.

Yeah. I like naps. And liking things in between naps. And random thoughts:

I'm kind of surprised Moose hasn't tried defending herself more on thread, since she's fairly close to the lead.

I feel like a lot of people are getting huffy about AM, but I'm not that concerned. Especially if Mel isn't concerned. You know why.

I almost want to vote for Pippy. Partly for the way she argued with AM, partly for staying on the Mixy lynch. But no one else has claimed the rez, so... probably not today.

I always want to vote BBC when she votes for me day 1 as it just seems cheap and easy.

I'm OK with jboo getting lynched.

I feel like WZ and DVMD sound villagery so far, even though DVMD is punishing us for over-posting by over-posting herself today.

I think I'll vote Cray though. Seems like the best option so far.
lynch cray

 

[Elfabeth]

@Elfabeth Can you ask Fern why she's voting for Stagg today?

I asked, but I think she may be at work now and unavailable so probably will not reply.

 

[RedLauren]

I’ll be on a plane when lynch close happens and I’m leaving in a few minutes. I’ll try to rapid fire answer questions.

Unlynch Dubz
Lynch MOOSE

Would you mind sharing your reasoning

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Because it was freakin D1

Can I mention that I pointed out it was D1 multiple times when I was making my reads.

 

[bryndiana.jones]

Because it was freakin D1

I don't see how that means she can't have a handful of reads. I have a hard time on D1 as well, but that doesn't mean everyone else does.

 

[Glammyre]

App said last seen at 6:06 pm yesterday.

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Unlynch bryndi
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While I re-eval the thread. I appreciate her response, and while it doesn't eleviate all suspicions, I'm not ready to vote there

It's not exact, but it's close enough to match the timing she told me. OK with both stories.

Question for you -- how hard do I have to roll my eyes at my phone for you to see it through your computer? Is this hard enough?

I would like to point out that it is significantly easier to catch up on 11ish pages when you're responsible for around a tenth of the posts

 

[jaboo]

Can I mention that I pointed out it was D1 multiple times when I was making my reads.

Doesn’t make it any less sketchy to me, sorry.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Current tally anyone ? 😕

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I'm ISO'ing at the moment, and Paws stands way the hell out for being pretty intense on thread for people's reads, but hasn't posted many original comments herself.

In response to DVMD today, when she mentioned how many pages behind she was:

Were you caught up last night or not since yesterday am?

Overly caustic? And then she's looking for reads from Bryn but still hasn't been posting her own:

How about you, are you caught up or haven't read anything?

Just moved into my new house in 114 degrees, I had no idea the game started so I'm catching up asap! Sorry for being MIA

No reasoning:

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Lynch @bryndiana.jones
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Noob game flashbacks. Game stuff stays in the game - looking at when people are online, when they're in pm, etc, is more distracting than useful.

I noticed you online yesterday and again today, and you hadn't posted at all. Possible lurking needs pressure. Excited to see your thoughts on today and yesterday.

This gets sort of close to reads?

All the "I've never played with them before" seems null to me as the people involved really haven't played together I don't think. Cray and dvmd had been on a ww break when Sar came back, brindi and redL are pretty new. I know it's d1 but just doesn't seem like anything yet

No specifics regarding why she's pinged by me:

Not seeing the dvmd or mixy vote , I'm meh on the sar vote.
Most pinged by pbc, but this is a D1 vote so could change
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Lynch PBC
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And yet she wants specifics from other players:
@PippyPony why BBC?

This is in reply to Cheese, which is laughable because he gives way more specifics than she has:

What was your thought specifically?

*GASP* but why?!? 😱


I’m seeing some inconsistencies in what mixy has been saying and what actually is going on in the thread. I have her on a village lean right now (alarmist villager reacting to DVMD because I had the same thought) combined with her attitude being reminiscent of when she was mislynched before makes me disinclined to vote there, but I’m glad there’s already pressure there to keep her talking (if she comes back before lynch close).

Edit: Fixing phone typos.

Digging for reads:

Any thoughts on the thread Allie?

In response to AM, again, hypocritical digging:

Care to explain?

Unlynch Coop
Lynch MOOSE

Why feels for me and cray? Why village lean for dolphin? We dunno

I am willing to apply pressure/give an alternative option there

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Unlynch PBC
Lynch @Miranda Senft
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Still have feels for PBC, cray also
For what it's worth, dolphin I have slight village lean

BUT WHY YOUR FEELS

I still like a PBC lynch here so since people seem to say she's on there list I'll put it out again
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Unlynch moose
Lynch PBC###

Getting upset about Moose babysitting when she should be packing, because that consistency is super important:

I thought you said you were packing

Why aren't you ready to vote there? What about her response alleviated some (though not all) your suspicion?

App said last seen at 6:06 pm yesterday.

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Unlynch bryndi
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While I re-eval the thread. I appreciate her response, and while it doesn't eleviate all suspicions, I'm not ready to vote there

Such snark:

I'm spit balling here, but you and WZ are tight, seem to like pming, honestly I'm surprised that you didn't ask her who she thought you should vote for if your other option is just a random noob. Any reason why not just discuss with her quickly?

I'm curious how other people read her, because this seems way over the top to me.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Doesn’t make it any less sketchy to me, sorry.

Okay, if you're village, and I wasn't voting for you, who would you vote for if it wasn't self-prez?

 

[Melchizedek]

May I ask why?

Your reads feel fabricated and inauthentic.

Really? Really? The time thing again?

I am only repeating this once IF ANYONE USES YOU WEREN'T BACK BY THE TIME I EXPECT!! RAWR!!! I am going to lynch them. This is one of the biggest reasons I left WW to start with. I can't stand this. As well as they "well I know you were online" so the **** what? I am often on SDN but not paying attention to or posting in ww either because I only have a few minutes or I just don't want to.

Wolf lurking is actually a strategy that both MOOSE and Kara employ. I'd rather not quote a wolf-pack PM from another game, but I have exact examples of them lurking. If you disagree with a wolf-hunting strategy, then don't use it, but you can't stop others from using it if its valid

Is this the taboo "side comment about how much a villager I am because I'm totes not a wolf guys" comment Pip? 😉

"Look at me I'm so Town!" or LAMIST

 

[jaboo]

I don't see how that means she can't have a handful of reads. I have a hard time on D1 as well, but that doesn't mean everyone else does.

It was a large handful. Also her play is pretty defensive like last game when I wolfed with her.

 

[jaboo]

Okay, if you're village, and I wasn't voting for you, who would you vote for if it wasn't self-prez?

Dubz

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Dubz

Just because of her sassiness? What else? And to be fair jboo, I've always had feels for you every game we've played together and then we wolfed together. You also sounded the way you are now when you wolfed because wolves try to be their authentic villager selves!

 

[DVMDream]

Wolf lurking is actually a strategy that both MOOSE and Kara employ. I'd rather not quote a wolf-pack PM from another game, but I have exact examples of them lurking. If you disagree with a wolf-hunting strategy, then don't use it, but you can't stop others from using it if its valid

Then state this as a reason for lynching not just "it has been two hours since they posted and they aren't posting enough". Get it? There is a difference between voting for a quiet player and stating your reason vs voting them and going "eh, it has been a while since they posted."

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Your reads feel fabricated and inauthentic.


Wolf lurking is actually a strategy that both MOOSE and Kara employ. I'd rather not quote a wolf-pack PM from another game, but I have exact examples of them lurking. If you disagree with a wolf-hunting strategy, then don't use it, but you can't stop others from using it if its valid


"Look at me I'm so Town!" or LAMIST

It's D1, it's not going to be as "authentic" as it would be D5 when more information is apparent.

 

[jaboo]

Just because of her sassiness? What else?

That and her quick reaction to the Mixy lynch and then subsequent grumpy commentary

 

[DVMDream]

I feel like WZ and DVMD sound villagery so far, even though DVMD is punishing us for over-posting by over-posting herself today.

This is making up for yesterday and all of next week.

 

[Melchizedek]

It's D1, it's not going to be as "authentic" as it would be D5 when more information is apparent.

I didn't say it was your D1 reads I take issue with now did I?

 

[jaboo]

It's D1, it's not going to be as "authentic" as it would be D5 when more information is apparent.

Yah. Which is why it’s weird that you posted it

 

[WildZoo]

Wolf lurking is actually a strategy that both MOOSE and Kara employ. I'd rather not quote a wolf-pack PM from another game, but I have exact examples of them lurking. If you disagree with a wolf-hunting strategy, then don't use it, but you can't stop others from using it if its valid

Wolf lurking is a thing. So is village lurking (I know for a fact Kara also lurks as a villager). So is villagers reading other threads and not having time to catch up on WW. So is someone of either affiliation getting busy unexpectedly. I mean, you can use it sure, but to me if it's your only reason (which AM said it was, at the time) it's pretty much like flipping a coin.

 

[Elfabeth]

It's not exact, but it's close enough to match the timing she told me. OK with both stories.


I would like to point out that it is significantly easier to catch up on 11ish pages when you're responsible for around a tenth of the posts

Lololol, so true. We could lynch Pippy just to cut down on chat?

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Yah. Which is why it’s weird that you posted it

If I have feels, I post it. They're not going to be as strong/authentic as D5!

 

[RedLauren]

If I have feels, I post it. They're not going to be as strong/authentic as D5!

The exclamation point thing is true haha

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I didn't say it was your D1 reads I take issue with now did I?

Jboo has the problem with my D1 reads, sorry. To be fair, the reads I gave which felt the "weakest" were my D1 reads because..for the billionth time...D1. Which reads were you referring to?

 

[JustPaws]

I'm ISO'ing at the moment, and Paws stands way the hell out for being pretty intense on thread for people's reads, but hasn't posted many original comments herself.

In response to DVMD today, when she mentioned how many pages behind she was:


Overly caustic? And then she's looking for reads from Bryn but still hasn't been posting her own:



No reasoning:


Noob game flashbacks. Game stuff stays in the game - looking at when people are online, when they're in pm, etc, is more distracting than useful.


This gets sort of close to reads?


No specifics regarding why she's pinged by me:


This is in reply to Cheese, which is laughable because he gives way more specifics than she has:



Digging for reads:


In response to AM, again, hypocritical digging:



Why feels for me and cray? Why village lean for dolphin? We dunno


BUT WHY YOUR FEELS


Getting upset about Moose babysitting when she should be packing, because that consistency is super important:


Why aren't you ready to vote there? What about her response alleviated some (though not all) your suspicion?


Such snark:



I'm curious how other people read her, because this seems way over the top to me.

Why am I not allowed to ask questions? No one has asked me any questions that I haven't answered.

Alot of those posts you quoted were responses in the moment, in other words, original thought! I hope people go back and read context rather than take your word.

I'm not a noob like my game two where you can just throw shade and get me lynched. I thought you were wolfly yesterday and this feels retalitory. Sorry you don't like the snark

 

[kaydubs]

Tally is coming in a few minutes. Gimme a sec.

 

[PippyPony]

When I get to my computer later tonight/tomorrow will do more reads, but briefly-DVMD seems villagey to me. PBC maybe I'm just salty but feels there. Elfa pingy but maybe just squirley noob. Do not like jboos stuff currently. Wz and pip are currently neutral along with mel. I feel like AM knows something more than she's letting on. Dolphin seems village. Still getting most feels from cray.
###lynch cray###

I rezzed you, but I'm neutral? Good lord.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm ISO'ing at the moment, and Paws stands way the hell out for being pretty intense on thread for people's reads, but hasn't posted many original comments herself.

In response to DVMD today, when she mentioned how many pages behind she was:


Overly caustic? And then she's looking for reads from Bryn but still hasn't been posting her own:



No reasoning:


Noob game flashbacks. Game stuff stays in the game - looking at when people are online, when they're in pm, etc, is more distracting than useful.


This gets sort of close to reads?


No specifics regarding why she's pinged by me:


This is in reply to Cheese, which is laughable because he gives way more specifics than she has:



Digging for reads:


In response to AM, again, hypocritical digging:



Why feels for me and cray? Why village lean for dolphin? We dunno


BUT WHY YOUR FEELS


Getting upset about Moose babysitting when she should be packing, because that consistency is super important:


Why aren't you ready to vote there? What about her response alleviated some (though not all) your suspicion?


Such snark:



I'm curious how other people read her, because this seems way over the top to me.

Fwiw much of this feels like recent village paws to me, especially the questions

 

[PrincessButterCup]

DAY 2 (unofficial) LYNCH TALLY

Elfabeth (1) - Stagg
jboo (3) - Moose, PBC, Skimble
Fern/BBC (1) - Elf
PBC (1) - WZ
WZ (1) - jboo
bryndy (2) - nyan, MJ
RL-KB (1) - Coffee
Moose (3) - Melby, RL-KB, Jboob
Coffee ()
AM (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - BBC
Cray (3) - AM, Mixy, Genny


18?/26

 

[RedLauren]

If items start out in the game (vs. being created by a tinkerer) they are often randomly distributed as early as when roles come out. No real reason there couldn't have been items out last night.

I can confirm that items do exist.

 

[PippyPony]

Lololol, so true. We could lynch Pippy just to cut down on chat?

Sorry not sorry, this happens occasionally when I am fired up about things. If people were more agreeable, I wouldn't post so much 😛

 

[Melchizedek]

Wolf lurking is a thing. So is village lurking (I know for a fact Kara also lurks as a villager). So is villagers reading other threads and not having time to catch up on WW. I mean, you can use it sure, but to me if it's your only reason (which AM said it was, at the time) it's pretty much like flipping a coin.

I didn't say I agreed with it myself, I'm pretty sure there's multiple times I've gotten on Pippy's case for using it as a sole reason to wolf hunt. I may not like it, but I'll defend someone's right to use it.

Jboo has the problem with my D1 reads, sorry. To be fair, the reads I gave which felt the "weakest" were my D1 reads because..for the billionth time...D1. Which reads were you referring to?

The ones I asked you for earlier today:

Skimble said she was busy and hopped on the Jboo train. The whole thing she posted seemed a bit flaky idk it doesn't sway me either way especially with her being busy.
I've never played with DVMD so I don't know her meta and I'm trying to gauge her. She kinda has a meta between cray's (with the posting style) but with dubz's sassiness 😛 . I'm leaning village towards her but, again, I've never played with her so I'm not going to make any choices on her today.
SAR didn't really post anything of value today, just asked/answered a couple of questions. I will point out what AM quoted earlier when SAR pointed out Coop earlier and said that Coop calling her out for her noob vote was weird to her. So, she didn't exactly call Coop out but threw some stuff at her and then today said she wasn't suspicious of anybody. I find that a bit weird and it could be some wolves throwing sketch on other wolves. So SAR is slightly more sketch in my book.
For now, I'm comfortable with my Jboo vote.

Specifically the bolded parts.
So you think Jboo is a wolf.
You state that you think Skimble is too busy to read/put a lot of thought into a lynch vote.
Skimble votes for Jboo
If you truly believe Jboo is a wolf, then I feel like you would have given Skimble village points here. A busy wolf isn't going to just bus another wolf for shiggles without a good reason.
This makes me feel like you're not really thinking through your reads, just posting them willy nilly which at best is just distracting for village to parse through, or at worst is a wolf throwing up smokescreen to look active.

 

[PippyPony]

Ew 3 way tie.

Lynch Cray

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I didn't say I agreed with it myself, I'm pretty sure there's multiple times I've gotten on Pippy's case for using it as a sole reason to wolf hunt. I may not like it, but I'll defend someone's right to use it.


The ones I asked you for earlier today:


Specifically the bolded parts.
So you think Jboo is a wolf.
You state that you think Skimble is too busy to read/put a lot of thought into a lynch vote.
Skimble votes for Jboo
If you truly believe Jboo is a wolf, then I feel like you would have given Skimble village points here. A busy wolf isn't going to just bus another wolf for shiggles without a good reason.
This makes me feel like you're not really thinking through your reads, just posting them willy nilly which at best is just distracting for village to parse through, or at worst is a wolf throwing up smokescreen to look active.

I don't know if Jboo is a wolf. I have feels and on D2 that's all I can really go on.
@johnnaboo if you're village, and I'm village, then are you willing to switch your vote with me to someone else? You can pick who we switch to. I'm village and I don't want to role reveal.
Edit: with pippy voting for Cray, we can keep our votes where they are if you want.

 

[kaydubs]

DAY 2 LYNCH TALLY
Elfabeth (1) - Stagg
jboo (3) - Moose, PBC, Skimble
Fern/BBC (1) - Elfa
PBC (1) - WZ
WZ () -
bryndy (2) - nyan, MJ
RL-KB (1) - Coffee
Moose (3) - Melby, RL-KB, jboo
Coffee ()
AM (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - BBC
Cray (4) - AM, MA, genny, Pippy

@Crayola227 - this escalated quickly.
18!!!/26
Deadline in ~45 minutes (10pm Eastern/9pm Central)

 

[JustPaws]

Fwiw much of this feels like recent village paws to me, especially the questions

Thank you. PBC hasn't played with me recently, and really only once I think when she was a wolf and I was a stupid noob trying not to hurt anyone's feelings in a game I didn't understand. I'm a different player now (I hope). I'm still not very good but I won't be going gently any longer

 

[SportPonies]

17?/26

I love that everyone is keeping my question mark from when I was confused by my math skills.