I saw you said why Lucy. Did you say why alley and stoat?
Hmmmmmm
How does that confirm that
Easier to come up with village reads in general imo
Did you say what the thing was?
How was that hedgey?
Why would a wolf!samac not do that?
What has you reading miranda as village?
Sporty Voice Tone…
Of everyone on the roster, why is Miranda your strongest wolf read?
You know, that best part about people saying this is I don't think I've ever even heard Sporty say tone over vc.
Because I do see things that make me raise my eyebrows. I would’ve voted vis first but wanted to keep the wagons somewhat close for now
Can you highlight them specifically and talk about why they make you suspicious?
I feel like she’s been fairly active but haven’t seen much wolf hunting yet. Would you disagree?
Yes. Alley's PBPA felt inauthentic to me but I want to see more since she's barely been here. Stoat feels a lot more aloof and dispassionate, though she addressed that and it's fair. She has life.
Yes I do. Just doing a quick iso it seems like she’s been fairly open about her thoughts on other players and who she’s reading this way and that.
These are the posts that made me raise some eyebrows.
Just seemed off tone wise and overly defensive
Seems like trying to shade without looking like shading (“I think it’s interesting”) and also without verifying
Also seems overly defensive
This seemed retaliatory and like it came out of nowhere after previously only mentioning Lucy and alley from what I see
Pull receipts when you can, I would appreciate it
Going by the basis of 'you never saw this slot be a wolf, so you cant confidently villaread them' its kind of dumb don't you think?
Seemed regularly defensive for a new player.
Do not think she’s raising an interesting point?
Maybe you haven’t been on the receiving end of Santy tunneling you, but it can get pretty grating. It comes off as more frustrated and annoyed by a newer player.
It’s not retaliatory when Santy is voting for me. And I think there’s been enough interactions between Miranda and Santy, that you can reasonably surmise that Miranda would be suspicious of Santy.
Well it would be interesting but based on this follow up it’s not accurate. So that’s why it seems more like trying to throw shade
Idk why I would think that she was suspicious of santy when it was never hinted at or brought up before
Santy is the only one I’m comfortable putting down there.
So you’re saying she intentionally knew it was after vote close and was hoping no one else would notice?
Her interactions with him. It would be reasonable for village!Miranda, to think she was being pushed by wolf!santy.
This is a fallacy. I dont even know if the word is written like that.
I'm confused about this connection. Did Miranda say she was village reading you?
I think “retaliation” gets thrown around way too frequently and frankly I think it’s a tool wolves use to keep people from voting for them.
I’m saying if Santy isn’t voting for Miranda, then it’s hard to say Miranda voting for Santy is a “retaliation vote”
No? I’m saying that if I was going to say something was sketchy that I would quickly verify first. It just caused an eyebrow raise as I said
Not if the santy vote came in response to santy pushing Miranda
I don't think retaliation is limited to votes. Or else no suspicions would count unless you voted. I don't have a grasp on Miranda yet but in absence of more than just a wolf read on Santy, it does seem to be an all eggs in one basket situation.
I feel like I've seen wolves go the OMGUS route more often than I've seen them be the ones accusing others of such. Like the psychology of it is that at baseline they don't actually have a good argument for why the other player is wrong (since they're not), so instead they frame it as the other player being scummy. You don't have to engage with the argument much if you assert that the other player is a wolf, and therefore their argument doesn't matter.
Again, I feel like this is something that’s super common with new players, especially when they’re village.
I do agree with this though
Yeah I don't feel bad about Miranda rn. Though I always have to keep in mind I'm sensitive about nooblets lol
It's a nonvoting problem, actually. All bark and no bite.
I'd have to search MU for one. Maybe Santy/Lucy/Clem have faster access.
I just looked. You’re right, all he’s played in numbers. I was dead N1 and guess I misremembered his activity
You’re voting a noob day 1?!
Who are you, and what have you done with Samac?
@JaggedJimmyJay if this is a vote, can you please edit it to say vote/yeet and then tag me? Thanks
Frustrated noob different from wolfy noob.
She was an SK, not a wolf.
Semantics that are irrelevant in the context of the discussion.
That's not the point. The point was you said Dubz feels so village you feel like it can't come from a wolf perspective and you'd be able to tell if if were wolf!Dubz. But you've never known wolf!Dubz. She's tricky.
