Stranger Things Part 2 - WW Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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I would like to discuss whether anyone else is still thinking about this post. It's sticking out to me.

Why is it sticking out to you? It looks like a normal post to me.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Why is it sticking out to you? It looks like a normal post to me.

I'm not sure. It's like... I know I've been basically kamikaze-ing myself this game in terms of sounding wolfy, but alley only getting bad vibes from me and also mentioning alissa feeling a little off feels like going for low-hanging fruit.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Personally I don't think alissa's entrance post felt all that strange given her misyeet in the anniversary game and being vigged early on last game. But given the entrance post and a frustrated response after that are currently her only posts it's difficult to make an informed conclusion there.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not sure. It's like... I know I've been basically kamikaze-ing myself this game in terms of sounding wolfy, but alley only getting bad vibes from me and also mentioning alissa feeling a little off feels like going for low-hanging fruit.

Her following line said it was still early (and per the timestamp the game had been running for ~14 hours), and expected a more refined POE as time went on.

Am I to take this as you disagreeing on alissa being in the POE?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I reread her posts and I think Barks seems okay as well. So as things currently stand...

True
genny
Zenge
Barks
Vis
AM
alley

Tried to pick somewhat gentle color shades as my feelings are fairly malleable at this point and I don't usually do ordered reads lists D1 but I'm putting this out there just in case.
(alissa omitted as she is a true neutral "need more info")

 

[Animal Midwife]

I reread her posts and I think Barks seems okay as well. So as things currently stand...

True
genny
Zenge
Barks
Vis
AM
alley

Tried to pick somewhat gentle color shades as my feelings are fairly malleable at this point and I don't usually do ordered reads lists D1 but I'm putting this out there just in case.
(alissa omitted as she is a true neutral "need more info")

That's a really uncomfortable readslist especially since you still haven't shared why your wolfreading me.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Am I to take this as you disagreeing on alissa being in the POE?

I currently don't think flipping alissa is the best move to make D1 but I'm not opposed to flipping her at some point.
Who is in your POE at the moment aside from presumably me?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I currently don't think flipping alissa is the best move to make D1 but I'm not opposed to flipping her at some point.
Who is in your POE at the moment aside from presumably me?

genny's the only one voting alissa... who you have as your second most villagey...

I shared my POE above.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

That's a really uncomfortable readslist especially since you still haven't shared why your wolfreading me.

I am currently wolfreading you because of a tunnel that isn't very substantiated.
Which is why I backed off initially-- if other people aren't sensing what I am, then that implies I'm probably the one getting it wrong. And, I don't have the best track record of reading you. That is to say, if I always scumread you I'm bound to be right at least some of the time but that doesn't change me being wrong more often.
All this to say: I do not have good reasons for wolfreading you. It's just what my heart wants. But that's a stupid, silly, and totally absurd reason and I'm trying to be fully cognizant of the bias that is making me see you through furry goggles.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

genny's the only one voting alissa... who you have as your second most villagey...

I didn't say anyone else was voting alissa? I shared my personal opinion which is I don't want to yeet her at the moment.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I am currently wolfreading you because of a tunnel that isn't very substantiated.
Which is why I backed off initially-- if other people aren't sensing what I am, then that implies I'm probably the one getting it wrong. And, I don't have the best track record of reading you. That is to say, if I always scumread you I'm bound to be right at least some of the time but that doesn't change me being wrong more often.
All this to say: I do not have good reasons for wolfreading you. It's just what my heart wants. But that's a stupid, silly, and totally absurd reason and I'm trying to be fully cognizant of the bias that is making me see you through furry goggles.

None of this gives a reason why I'm a POE (of only two people) above everyone else.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

None of this gives a reason why I'm a POE (of only two people) above everyone else.

I. Know. I have no good reason is the point I am trying to make.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't say anyone else was voting alissa? I shared my personal opinion which is I don't want to yeet her at the moment.

You said alley was going after low hanging fruit for saying alissa was in her POE. I mentioned genny straight up voted her. You are fully unbothered by the latter. No one asked you to vote for alissa. If this isn't about alissa, then why are you wolfreading alley?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I. Know. I have no good reason is the point I am trying to make.

Then tell me why everyone else is higher. You must have really good reason for them to override being unable to place me higher for unfounded reasons.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm particularly interested in PSV's alley read because she went from openly village reading alley, to thinking alley hadn't posted enough, to wolfreading alley. All this change was for two posts.

 

[genny]

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[genny]

I'm particularly interested in PSV's alley read because she went from openly village reading alley, to thinking alley hadn't posted enough, to wolfreading alley. All this change was for two posts.

i'm confused about the 2 posts part. you mean alley only posted twice during PSV's evolving read? because she's posted more than twice this game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

i'm confused about the 2 posts part. you mean alley only posted twice during PSV's evolving read? because she's posted more than twice this game.

alley made two additional posts which resulted in a reads revolution. Every post prior to those corresponds to a PSV tone village read.

 

[genny]

alley made two additional posts which resulted in a reads revolution. Every post prior to those corresponds to a PSV tone village read.

those must have been some super wolfy posts

 

[potentialsheltervet]

alley made two additional posts which resulted in a reads revolution. Every post prior to those corresponds to a PSV tone village read.

Or I went back and revisited posts from some of the players I mentioned earlier and reevaluated.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

alley made two additional posts which resulted in a reads revolution. Every post prior to those corresponds to a PSV tone village read.

A ~soft~ tone village read. As in, malleable, pliable, can be shaped into something else.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

You said alley was going after low hanging fruit for saying alissa was in her POE. I mentioned genny straight up voted her. You are fully unbothered by the latter. No one asked you to vote for alissa. If this isn't about alissa, then why are you wolfreading alley?

You specifically asked me whether I disagree with Alissa being in the POE.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Or I went back and revisited posts from some of the players I mentioned earlier and reevaluated.

I missed those reevaluation posts. Could you highlight then for me?

A ~soft~ tone village read. As in, malleable, pliable, can be shaped into something else.

That's... not how tone reads work. A tone read is the strongest form of a village lean/wolf lean you can give someone. If you want stronger, it goes into mechanical proof.

You specifically asked me whether I disagree with Alissa being in the POE.

Yes, because you said alley's post bothered you. And she listed alissa as a POE memeber. I fail to understand why someone merely mentioning alissa is more worrisome than someone straight up calling her wolfy and voting her.

 

[genny]

That's... not how tone reads work. A tone read is the strongest form of a village lean/wolf lean you can give someone. If you want stronger, it goes into mechanical proof.

i do not share your definition of tone read, wow. yours sounds more like a soul read

 

[Animal Midwife]

i do not share your definition of tone read, wow. yours sounds more like a soul read

I consider a soul read to be under mechanical proof. Tone reads can be wrong, albeit confidently wrong, whereas soul reads are >99% accurate.

 

[Viscernable]

I'm confused by this question.

I don’t understand why tis post was made if you don’t think it was AI

I'm feeling slightly odd about AM asking me whether I'd been a wolf while True was villaging given her generally encyclopedic knowledge of WW games.

It’s hard to interpret this as not “painting it as AI”, especially in the context of previous:

I am strong reminded of wolf!AM

 

[Animal Midwife]

Though that reminds me of another thing I'm curious about.

@potentialsheltervet You said you've never seen a wolf!alley game, did you compare her play here to her wolf games?

 

[Viscernable]

I would like to discuss whether anyone else is still thinking about this post. It's sticking out to me.

I liked alley’s reads post. The one quoted here I could see as sheepy, but seems like it’s very compatible with alley of any affiliation and her reads post gives reasoning for what she says here.

 

[Viscernable]

I am currently wolfreading you because of a tunnel that isn't very substantiated.
Which is why I backed off initially-- if other people aren't sensing what I am, then that implies I'm probably the one getting it wrong. And, I don't have the best track record of reading you. That is to say, if I always scumread you I'm bound to be right at least some of the time but that doesn't change me being wrong more often.
All this to say: I do not have good reasons for wolfreading you. It's just what my heart wants. But that's a stupid, silly, and totally absurd reason and I'm trying to be fully cognizant of the bias that is making me see you through furry goggles.

My gut is so confused by this post. Idk how to read you.

 

[Viscernable]

That's... not how tone reads work. A tone read is the strongest form of a village lean/wolf lean you can give someone. If you want stronger, it goes into mechanical proof.

Ah, into the Midwife definitions game we go

 

[Viscernable]

@Animal Midwife how close to close does Z have to vote to be tonally cleared, if within a couple minutes mechanically clears him?

 

[genny]

are we still missing more than half of our voters?

 

[Animal Midwife]

are we still missing more than half of our voters?

I believe so.

 

[Zenge142]

are we still missing more than half of our voters?

What are your thoughts on PSV at the moment?

 

[Zenge142]

@Barkley13 can you take me through your True vote? Do you think you’ll stay there today?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@potentialsheltervet You said you've never seen a wolf!alley game, did you compare her play here to her wolf games?

I have not, but from what I understand she hasn't wolfed in about a year.

 

[alleycat03]

What’s the resemblance?

Hmmmm, pointing this out because it prickled me.

Idk why, but this being the first message you post on the thread strikes me as odd. Idk if I was just expecting a salt yeet or a non-Q entrance instead, but it bothered me. I’ve liked your follow-up Qs though.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

This is not in any form intended to be AtE and should be taken as completely NAI but I want to put this out there:
I'm getting really frustrated with myself because I have thoughts that seem like really good thoughts and then I do not understand them later and cannot explain them. I don't know why I'm having that problem so much this game but I definitely don't feel "on." So regardless of my affiliation (still village but that's beside the point) I know I'm probably being really frustrating and not making a lot of sense. I'm aware and I'm hoping I can... Not do that next game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I have not, but from what I understand she hasn't wolfed in about a year.

Do you plan to compare?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Do you plan to compare?

Is the most recent one CYO II?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Let's go with the answer to that being "maybe" because to be totally frank I just want to take a nap and eat dinner. My energy reserves are really low and realistically I don't know if I can encourage myself to go digging. Maybe, maybe not.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is the most recent one CYO II?

You'd have to ask alley, but that's multiball so might be a bit more difficult to evaluate than a standard game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@alleycat03 What are your wolf games?

 

[alleycat03]

Idk, I don’t think of thread presence itself as something AI for alissa, although it’s possible I’m misremembering

Less thread presence and more her tone/way of talking through things. Her first post had a small vibe of wolfy trying to blend in, but her second post responding to genny was what bothered me more. I know she’s frequently misyeeted, but it seemed a tad over-dramatic. I know how defensive I can get about misyeets, but this felt different. More like she was already hunkering down to argue and not just bemoan misyeets. But then she ghosted so 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

[alleycat03]

Her wave function hasn't collapsed yet,

Her what now?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Her what now?

I'm apparently the ocean. 🌊

 

[alleycat03]

@alleycat03 What are your wolf games?

Breadsticks, bioshock, WWizards, CYO II

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Oh I can say for certain I will not be going through Bioshock today.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Breadsticks, bioshock, WWizards, CYO II

Thanks!

 

[Truenamer]

Her what now?

I have a decent feel for PSV after a few game-days, but I don't have the ability to snap-read her like she does for me. So right now she exists in two positions at once- village and wolfy. After interacting with her on thread for a while, my hope is that, like in previous games, it'll become clear to me which state she's in.

The actual thing I'm referencing is the quantum state of particle, which collapses upon observation into a single state. My apologies, I'm a physics creature.