Supernatural: Villains WW Game Thread

[potentialsheltervet]

---

Members do not see this ad.

@justafluff So you became suspicious of stoat due to her multiple abilities, but you waited until now to block her even though she presumably told you about her abilities early on in your pm? Since she definitely mentioned her NK avoidance since you were the one to confirm it on thread.
And despite being suspicious of her, you backed her up when she targeted samac and assumed she was correct? Yet after samac flipped wolf, you decided to block stoat last night to hunt 3ps that we don't know for sure exist yet instead of targeting someone like cubs or pleasy that was being wolf-read.

 

[justafluff]

I mean might as well do this now so that we have 11 hours to discuss if yall are gonna believe me or not

And I don’t know if this is true for AM or zenge but I think it is? Which is why I’m confused that z is dead again bc I assumed the wolves would know this stuff

But the reason the game is not unfairly stacked gains to wolves w rezzes is bc when I died I didn’t come back strictly village, I’m neutral now. I’m still playing provillage bc I find it the most fun, but my wincon is to just be here at endgame. My yeet will be incredibly boring for you all bc it does not effect the village win in any way but giving the wolves one more NK

So out of 6 players,

1 neutral (me), I think am came back village? I mused in my PM that there was some sort of dice roll to see what we would come back as?
If you’re wrong today and yeet me there is a chance that NK seals village defeat and I don’t want that either

The only other thing I have to back me up is that my role ability isn’t quite a seer it’s a learn this one specific thing about a player and the only person who is alive still that I’ve used it on is stoaty who is a cannibal
If stoaty denies this, then that is very very strange

Ok I’ll bite. so there’s no others in your faction.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Oops let’s try this again sorry

Msp night 1, she was my PM partner and I wasn’t sure what “find something out about them” meant -> not a cannibal
WAIT YOU
YOURE AIVE
SHELTY n2 NOT A CANNIBAL
kdsw n3
N4 stoaty yes cannibal

How would zenge back you up on this?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Ok I’ll bite. so there’s no others in your faction.

Just me I don’t have a faction
Truly neutral
If AM is also neutral (which I don’t think works w numbers) she’s by her self too

 

[potentialsheltervet]

And you looked at kdswg N3, concluded she wasn't a cannibal, yet yeeted her anyway?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

How would zenge back you up on this?

If he came back neutral as well
Hence my 5 vodka shots in DIY pm which didn’t work bc people violated my privacy 😤😂

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@Animal Midwife @cubsrule4e Thoughts on the threadstate?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean might as well do this now so that we have 11 hours to discuss if yall are gonna believe me or not

And I don’t know if this is true for AM or zenge but I think it is? Which is why I’m confused that z is dead again bc I assumed the wolves would know this stuff

But the reason the game is not unfairly stacked gains to wolves w rezzes is bc when I died I didn’t come back strictly village, I’m neutral now. I’m still playing provillage bc I find it the most fun, but my wincon is to just be here at endgame. My yeet will be incredibly boring for you all bc it does not effect the village win in any way but giving the wolves one more NK

So out of 6 players,

1 neutral (me), I think am came back village? I mused in my PM that there was some sort of dice roll to see what we would come back as?
If you’re wrong today and yeet me there is a chance that NK seals village defeat and I don’t want that either

The only other thing I have to back me up is that my role ability isn’t quite a seer it’s a learn this one specific thing about a player and the only person who is alive still that I’ve used it on is stoaty who is a cannibal
If stoaty denies this, then that is very very strange

I'll have to look back to see if this lines up but I'm very disoriented.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And you looked at kdswg N3, concluded she wasn't a cannibal, yet yeeted her anyway?

I wasn’t sure if cannibal meant wolf? For all we know it really doesn’t I’m not sure that’s relevant

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If he came back neutral as well
Hence my 5 vodka shots in DIY pm which didn’t work bc people violated my privacy 😤😂

And what made you think AM wouldn't come back as neutral but zenge would?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And what made you think AM wouldn't come back as neutral but zenge would?

I originally thought all 3 of us did but if me and AM are neutral then it’s 2 village 2 wolf and that’s already parity

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I wasn’t sure if cannibal meant wolf? For all we know it really doesn’t I’m not sure that’s relevant

We know it doesn't because alley was a village cannibal.
But we know it's a cannibal wolf doing the kills because none of the bodies have been found. So you knew kdswg at least wasn't the one doing the kills but voted her anyway instead of trying to look for the cannibal who was actually killing. That doesn't track.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I originally thought all 3 of us did but if me and AM are neutral then it’s 2 village 2 wolf and that’s already parity

And if this was your original thought that would've made yesterday volo yet you still voted kdswg, the non-cannibal non-wolf.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

And by your own admission you've been thinking fluff was wolfiest yet you chose to look at stoat last night rather than fluff.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

We know it doesn't because alley was a village cannibal.
But we know it's a cannibal wolf doing the kills because none of the bodies have been found. So you knew kdswg at least wasn't the one doing the kills but voted her anyway instead of trying to look for the cannibal who was actually killing. That doesn't track.

Or
In my theory
The wolf pack doesn’t have true kills
Only hide the body and we come back at day close
I just though kd was a non-cannibal wolf

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And by your own admission you've been thinking fluff was wolfiest yet you chose to look at stoat last night rather than fluff.

When did I do this?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And by your own admission you've been thinking fluff was wolfiest yet you chose to look at stoat last night rather than fluff.

Also I also said I’m at throw out all of my reads point

 

[potentialsheltervet]

And another thing: you not-seered me night two but have still been casting shade on me despite knowing I'm not a cannibal. So you've been wolf reading me and kdswg despite knowing neither of us is a cannibal and there's still at least one cannibal wolf left.
No. No way.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

When did I do this?

Lol. All day yesterday?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And if this was your original thought that would've made yesterday volo yet you still voted kdswg, the non-cannibal non-wolf.

I didn’t know she wasn’t a wolf
I thought she was
My logic was w 7 alive and zenge comin back neutral (unsure if AM was neutral) then yesterday was mylo
To say that it was malicious of me to yeet kdswg out of the very limited information of not a cannibal is implying that I knew more than I did

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Lol. All day yesterday?

I literally said stoaty was hesitantly cleared in a post yesterday

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And another thing: you not-seered me night two but have still been casting shade on me despite knowing I'm not a cannibal. So you've been wolf reading me and kdswg despite knowing neither of us is a cannibal and there's still at least one cannibal wolf left.
No. No way.

Again
Not cannibal does not equal not wolf
Cannibal does not equal wolf

 

[Animal Midwife]

Where'd stoat go?

 

[justafluff]

@justafluff So you became suspicious of stoat due to her multiple abilities, but you waited until now to block her even though she presumably told you about her abilities early on in your pm? Since she definitely mentioned her NK avoidance since you were the one to confirm it on thread.
And despite being suspicious of her, you backed her up when she targeted samac and assumed she was correct? Yet after samac flipped wolf, you decided to block stoat last night to hunt 3ps that we don't know for sure exist yet instead of targeting someone like cubs or pleasy that was being wolf-read.

Pleasey acted weird just last night and I planned to yeet her today. I sided with stoat because I suspected samac too. Stoat mentioned the abilities in the PM as she was gonna use them, not early on. I just wanted to clear her for sure.
I trusted cubs like I trusted stoat so I didn’t think to block him at all. I wanted to clear stoat first before moving on to the ppl I trust.

Also I didn’t do the math. It’s all tinfoil for me that it’s probably this or that. I tried to block the last wolf, turns out she was village. We had discussed with stoat on dealing with the zombies but AM seems village, pleasey I thought we can push to yeet, and Zenge had just come back.

 

[justafluff]

@Animal Midwife are you neutral??

 

[Animal Midwife]

Pleasey acted weird just last night and I planned to yeet her today. I sided with stoat because I suspected samac too. Stoat mentioned the abilities in the PM as she was gonna use them, not early on. I just wanted to clear her for sure.
I trusted cubs like I trusted stoat so I didn’t think to block him at all. I wanted to clear stoat first before moving on to the ppl I trust.

Also I didn’t do the math. It’s all tinfoil for me that it’s probably this or that. I tried to block the last wolf, turns out she was village. We had discussed with stoat on dealing with the zombies but AM seems village, pleasey I thought we can push to yeet, and Zenge had just come back.

Can I ask why blocking stoat would clear her in your eyes when blocking samac or kdsw didn't?

 

[justafluff]

How I’ve used my block:
N1: Zenge
N2: samac
N3: kdswg
N4: stoat

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife are you neutral??

I am still village.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I am still village.

So what's your thought on Pleasy's claim?

 

[justafluff]

Can I ask why blocking stoat would clear her in your eyes when blocking samac or kdsw didn't?

Cause she said she wasn’t gonna do anything last night. I blocked her, there’s still a kill this morning. She didn’t do it. She told me the truth.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Again
Not cannibal does not equal not wolf
Cannibal does not equal wolf

But what I'm saying is we know there is at least one more cannibal wolf. At that point you knew neither me nor kdswg was a cannibal and therefore not the cannibal wolf. Yet you've been going after both of us regardless.

 

[justafluff]

Also I don’t think there’s 2 wolves out there. I think there’s only 1 if the neutral faction stuff is true.

 

[Animal Midwife]

So what's your thought on Pleasy's claim?

I'm very conflicted. I feel like if this is a fakeclaim she picked the hardest possible person to get traction on. At the same time, it makes me nervous that stoat was posting until that point and seems to be gone.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Cause she said she wasn’t gonna do anything last night. I blocked her, there’s still a kill this morning. She didn’t do it. She told me the truth.

She said she wasn't going to do anything last night, you've trusted everything she's said so far, and you blocked her anyway rather than going after someone wolfier? Strange.
Stranger still that you've lived this long as an outted blocker.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

But what I'm saying is we know there is at least one more cannibal wolf. At that point you knew neither me nor kdswg was a cannibal and therefore not the cannibal wolf. Yet you've been going after both of us regardless.

I dont know that
I think that there are no true kills via wolf faction
Again
I think they can only kill us and dice roll rez at end of day
Why would they do that if they had the choice to just straight up kill

 

[Animal Midwife]

Cause she said she wasn’t gonna do anything last night. I blocked her, there’s still a kill this morning. She didn’t do it. She told me the truth.

Yes, but the other two said the same.

 

[justafluff]

I'm very conflicted. I feel like if this is a fakeclaim she picked the hardest possible person to get traction on. At the same time, it makes me nervous that stoat was posting until that point and seems to be gone.

She’s not posting anything in our PM atm

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Also I don’t think there’s 2 wolves out there. I think there’s only 1 if the neutral faction stuff is true.

Not a faction
AM being village still makes 2 a possibility still

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Yes, I would really like to hear what stoat has to say about Pleasy's stoat cannibal claim.

 

[Truenamer]

Where'd stoat go?

She's gardening

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I dont know that
I think that there are no true kills via wolf faction
Again
I think they can only kill us and dice roll rez at end of day
Why would they do that if they had the choice to just straight up kill

This doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[justafluff]

Yes, but the other two said the same.

I know and at that point, I was going off of who sounded suspicious and wolfy. I didn’t know 100% samac was gonna flip wolf. I believed stoat’s seer claim and felt awful at the thought she was gonna flip village.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

She's gardening

With samac's hoe, perhaps.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

This doesn't make any sense to me.

Ok

 

[Animal Midwife]

@vetschoolsletmeinplease who are you thinking for POE currently?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I know and at that point, I was going off of who sounded suspicious and wolfy. I didn’t know 100% samac was gonna flip wolf. I believed stoat’s seer claim and felt awful at the thought she was gonna flip village.

In this 3p!stoat scenario, why would she seer samac and get a wolf yoten? In this scenario if wolf kills can come back as 3p it would make sense for the 3ps to let the wolves be and grow their own numbers.

 

[justafluff]

I dont know that
I think that there are no true kills via wolf faction
Again
I think they can only kill us and dice roll rez at end of day
Why would they do that if they had the choice to just straight up kill

it doesn’t make sense. So the wolves have only the option to do cannibal kills and dice roll rez. Wouldn’t that mean that all wolves are cannibals? But you say non cannibal doesn’t mean non wolf.

 

[justafluff]

In this 3p!stoat scenario, why would she seer samac and get a wolf yoten? In this scenario if wolf kills can come back as 3p it would make sense for the 3ps to let the wolves be and grow their own numbers.

I was thinking she’s a 3p that can kill as well

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

it doesn’t make sense. So the wolves have only the option to do cannibal kills and dice roll rez. Wouldn’t that mean that all wolves are cannibals? But you say non cannibal doesn’t mean non wolf.

No I’m thinking it doesn’t matter who, cannibal or no cannibal does the kill. They only have the option to kill knowing we come back

I was saying that if only cannibal wolves do the killing, why would they do that if a no cannibal wolf kill means permadead

 

[Truenamer]

With samac's hoe, perhaps.

I did wonder where that suspiciously nice hoe came from 🤔