There Be Basics WW 2021

[alleycat03]

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[Zenge142]

Okay, I wanted to sleep on it before voting, but I think there’s enough there, along with the suspicions Cray brought up regarding Genny’s focus on PRs that I’m comfortable putting my vote here for now as a “best guess”.

Yeet Genny

 

[supershorty]

if April is village it's hard to imagine there isn't at least one wolf on the current "yeet April" list.

I don't disagree with this assessment, but after the last game, I do want to remind you that there have been D1 wagons that consisted entirely of villagers misyeeting a villager (ask me how I know 😒). I'm keeping that in the back of my mind.

 

[supershorty]

Yeet genny

I want to see what she says today with a little bit of pressure applied. I don't have a way to say it better than zenge did, but something feels NQR with the post about Vissy.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Do I have to list my village reads to have a POE, when I list 11 wolf suspects? Maybe I misunderstand the meaning of POE and how it's used.

I figure that'd be shorter than listing what your POE is since you said it's "oversized". 11 is a metric crapton because that means you are confirmed to be incorrectly suspecting, at least, double the amount of villagers compared to wolves at baseline. If you want to share the POE instead that works too, but maybe we can work to narrowing it to an estimate of an equal number of wolves and villagers or something.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Your statements about who can/can't be wolfy pairs sets my teeth on edge. Be careful. Otherwise who am I to judge, you did well in dead chat.

Eh, as long as she open to reevaluating based on flips/new interaction, I'd say it's an excellent way of narrowing down the list.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

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[supershorty]

Ok the thread has slowed down enough for me to collect my thoughts

I'd like to see more thoughts from pleasy because other than this post last night, there's just been a lot of fluff posts (and one tally). It's not atypical pleasy to post that way, but it doesn't give me a strong pro-village feeling either.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Sunshine sounds like village sunshine to me
Dr roro I don’t have a tonal read yet
Zenge sounds very similar to last game so I’m scootching him on over to the village pile for now
Idk how to spell that
I’m gonna pop in as much as I can and give general impressions but we’re about to start anniversary festivities with walking to our favorite pastry shop🥰

 

[genny]

You're actually worried about me being excited to play WW? Have you met me?

Not sure if this is residual stuff from last game or selective amnesia

I just thought of a reason that you might be excited to rand village right now, and while it doesn't affect this game, it still affects me elsewhere. Sorry for everyone else that I'm being cryptic.

 

[genny]

Yeet genny

I want to see what she says today with a little bit of pressure applied. I don't have a way to say it better than zenge did, but something feels NQR with the post about Vissy.

I get asked for my read on two players, and y'all are upset that I offered a read on two players but not the entire roster? Yeah, have fun yeeting me.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I'm headed out the door but wanted to make some notes before I get too busy

Cray sounds like typical village Cray - very involved, taking note of basically everything.
The three noobs (Roro, Ace, Lainey) haven't said enough to give me a feeling in either direction.
I don't think we've heard anything at all from MsP yet (please correct me if I missed her posts) so I'm not sure if she's completely absent or what, but until she shows up I'm thinking that might be a mod kill for inactivity and not where I want to waste my vote.
I still have barely played with Dina at all but what I've heard so far sounds much like what I heard in the last game before she flipped village so I want to move off of that, I'm just not sure where yet.
Schools sounds like typical village schools so far but I'd like to hear more.
The first post Vis made concerned me but otherwise their posts have sounded like the analysis I'm used to village Vis making. I'm hoping to hear more from them too.
Genny and Dubz are always really hard reads for me for whatever reason and that stands true now too.

For now

Unyeet Dina

And when I'm back home I'll find a better wolfy substitute

 

[Animal Midwife]

I get asked for my read on two players, and y'all are upset that I offered a read on two players but not the entire roster? Yeah, have fun yeeting me.

Are you going to move to a serious vote soon?

I don't think we've heard anything at all from MsP yet (please correct me if I missed her posts) so I'm not sure if she's completely absent or what, but until she shows up I'm thinking that might be a mod kill for inactivity and not where I want to waste my vote.

There's a reason her signature is the way it is. Just keep note of how she dodges her modkills.

 

[WildZoo]

Groups are groups and individuals are not in any particular order

Walk the plank!
vis
genny

Scurvy dogs
April
Dina

Arrrrr?
Sloth
Schools
MsP
alley
Sunshine
Kras

Noob Crewmates
Ro
Lainey
Ace

Fine Buckos
AM
cray
shorty
Zenge

Treasure chests
Just me 😀

 

[genny]

Are you going to move to a serious vote soon?

AM, I just woke up for the second time today. Let me get some breakfast first.

 

[WildZoo]

I just thought of a reason that you might be excited to rand village right now, and while it doesn't affect this game, it still affects me elsewhere. Sorry for everyone else that I'm being cryptic.

If you're talking about the other game I don't think it's fair to make comparisons since I'm among friends here and mostly strangers in a much stiffer environment there. Not sure it's even appropriate to bring it up.

 

[WildZoo]

I still have barely played with Dina at all but what I've heard so far sounds much like what I heard in the last game before she flipped village so I want to move off of that, I'm just not sure where yet.

A titch concerned with how much this sounds like the barks read you initially gave last game, though context is different so only a minor twinge.

 

[genny]

If you're talking about the other game I don't think it's fair to make comparisons since I'm among friends here and mostly strangers in a much stiffer environment there. Not sure it's even appropriate to bring it up.

I'm not going to address it.

 

[Aprilthearab]

A titch concerned with how much this sounds like the barks read you initially gave last game, though context is different so only a minor twinge.

I thought my barks read last game was more along the lines of "doesn't say enough but what I've heard isn't concerning" but my memory is crap.

 

[WildZoo]

I thought my barks read last game was more along the lines of "doesn't say enough but what I've heard isn't concerning" but my memory is crap.

It was more the "I haven't played much with them but what they've said so far seems similar to previous" or whatever. I don't remember your exact post on barks either. The context is different because you weren't voting for barks there.
In general I raise my eyebrow at meta reads based on an n of 1, though there seems to be a lot of that going on here. You can't assume the kind of different someone is going to sound if you haven't seen them in both roles.

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

Okay, I am finally caught up, wow a lot of posts about my alley vote when it was a joke along with some other who voted around that time. I never planned to stay on her (unless she gave me reason to), but from what I have read she has not so
Unyeet Alley

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

This is my first game using a spreadsheet, it remains to be determined if using it is actually gonna make this easier for me or not🤣

 

[Crayola227]

..... Or I wanted to say I’m worried about dubz’s behavior without actually calling her wolfy. You don’t think she sounded non-village?

No, but I'm not -not wolf hunting. I can actually see more wolf-sounding than 3P on Dubz.

 

[Crayola227]

Am I allowed to sheep a noob's reads? Because I find zenge's genny case compelling

Hey what about my points on genny? 🙁

 

[genny]

unyeet AM
yeet vis

Could also go for Dina or April. Too many noobs (+MsP and Kras) have said too little to be readable.

 

[WildZoo]

Hey what about my points on genny? 🙁

I liked those too! Sorry, I did give the post a like

 

[Crayola227]

I'm headed out the door but wanted to make some notes before I get too busy

Cray sounds like typical village Cray - very involved, taking note of basically everything.
The three noobs (Roro, Ace, Lainey) haven't said enough to give me a feeling in either direction.
I don't think we've heard anything at all from MsP yet (please correct me if I missed her posts) so I'm not sure if she's completely absent or what, but until she shows up I'm thinking that might be a mod kill for inactivity and not where I want to waste my vote.
I still have barely played with Dina at all but what I've heard so far sounds much like what I heard in the last game before she flipped village so I want to move off of that, I'm just not sure where yet.
Schools sounds like typical village schools so far but I'd like to hear more.
The first post Vis made concerned me but otherwise their posts have sounded like the analysis I'm used to village Vis making. I'm hoping to hear more from them too.
Genny and Dubz are always really hard reads for me for whatever reason and that stands true now too.

For now

Unyeet Dina

And when I'm back home I'll find a better wolfy substitute

Word choice wolfy substitute is sketch.... maybe you should say candidate? Substitute implies a stand-in, like anyone you're voting for is a stand-in, like you can just sub any ol' villager in.

 

[WildZoo]

I always get such emotional whiplash when cray likes a bunch of my posts and then says she's wolf-reading me

 

[Crayola227]

If you're talking about the other game I don't think it's fair to make comparisons since I'm among friends here and mostly strangers in a much stiffer environment there. Not sure it's even appropriate to bring it up.

I'm not going to address it.

I don't understand this exchange and the tone seems uber serious.

 

[WildZoo]

I don't understand this exchange and the tone seems uber serious.

We're both playing another game on another site but I don't think it should be discussed beyond that

 

[Crayola227]

I always get such emotional whiplash when cray likes a bunch of my posts and then says she's wolf-reading me

Lol if it helps I feel pretty bad about the whole thing lol

I just find myself wanting to get along with you and genny and that is usually my #1 game mistake

 

[Crayola227]

I don't know how I'm finding so much to pick at, and I'm feeling like where is AM pushing the attack so I can make sense of people and their votes?

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

Categories, with individuals in no particular order

Village
AM
Dina
Alley
Cray
Sunshine
Genny

Weak Village
Zenge
VetSchools
Ace

???
WildZoo
MsP
Lainey
Shorty
Kras
DrRoRo

Wolf-lean
Visc
April

 

[Animal Midwife]

Categories, with individuals in no particular order

Village
AM
Dina
Alley
Cray
Sunshine
Genny

Weak Village
Zenge
VetSchools
Ace

???
WildZoo
MsP
Lainey
Shorty
Kras
DrRoRo

Wolf-lean
Visc
April

What has you village leaning genny, Dina, and please?

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

What has you village leaning genny, Dina, and please?

To me Genny is sounding the same as she always does, every game I have played with her she has been village. With the style she’s playing, she currently doesn’t have me raising any eye brows at the moment.
To be fair re-reading my notes Dina could hover weak village as well, to me their vote isn’t very significant at the moment sine MsP hasn’t posted, but they haven’t said anything that has particularly raised any suspicion for me

 

[Aprilthearab]

Word choice wolfy substitute is sketch.... maybe you should say candidate? Substitute implies a stand-in, like anyone you're voting for is a stand-in, like you can just sub any ol' villager in.

Just semantics. Substitute Dina for someone who is actually wolfy

 

[supershorty]

I get asked for my read on two players, and y'all are upset that I offered a read on two players but not the entire roster? Yeah, have fun yeeting me.

This is another one of those remarks where it's technically the truth - asked for 2 reads, gave 2 reads - but it gives me kind of a weird feeling because it's not like there are only 2 players in the game to read. It's almost the opposite of cray having notes on 11 people, and it seems like a weird thing to get defensive about.

Do you have any other reads to share?

 

[Aprilthearab]

To me Genny is sounding the same as she always does, every game I have played with her she has been village. With the style she’s playing, she currently doesn’t have me raising any eye brows at the moment.

I could see this as a reason to put someone as neutral but not village right away, especially since you don't know what wolf Genny sounds like.

 

[Animal Midwife]

To me Genny is sounding the same as she always does, every game I have played with her she has been village. With the style she’s playing, she currently doesn’t have me raising any eye brows at the moment.
To be fair re-reading my notes Dina could hover weak village as well, to me their vote isn’t very significant at the moment sine MsP hasn’t posted, but they haven’t said anything that has particularly raised any suspicion for me

Could I hear about schools too?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Categories, with individuals in no particular order

Village
AM
Dina
Alley
Cray
Sunshine
Genny

Weak Village
Zenge
VetSchools
Ace

???
WildZoo
MsP
Lainey
Shorty
Kras
DrRoRo

Wolf-lean
Visc
April

I'm not sure how I feel about you grouping such a large amount of people into village, and not weak village, so fast, especially without any prior posts indicating why.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I'm not sure how I feel about you grouping such a large amount of people into village, and not weak village, so fast, especially without any prior posts indicating why.

It feels like you're a wolf who either is trying to get on some people's good sides early in the game or is having a hard time moving people out of village when you know they're not

 

[supershorty]

Categories, with individuals in no particular order

Village
AM
Dina
Alley
Cray
Sunshine
Genny

Weak Village
Zenge
VetSchools
Ace

Can you expand more on why you have some of these people as strong vs weak village reads? Just given their posting patterns on the thread so far, I don't follow how you'd have a stronger village read on Dina vs Zenge, for example.

 

[Animal Midwife]

It feels like you're a wolf who either is trying to get on some people's good sides early in the game or is having a hard time moving people out of village when you know they're not

What do you mean by the bolded?

 

[Aprilthearab]

What do you mean by the bolded?

Whoops, my wording was off. It was meant "when you know they're not wolves."

 

[kaydubs]

It's Only Day 1 with Plenty to Choose From Yeet Tally

April (4) - AM, alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty

12/18

Missing: @Ms Procrastinator @vetschoolsletmeinplease @LaineyLou @sunshinefl @Aprilthearab @PhiloslothicalStudent

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TODAY, Saturday 2/6/2021 (~8.25 hours)

 

[Animal Midwife]

Whoops, my wording was off. It was meant "when you know they're not wolves."

Ah okay. So you're leaning this entirely as a wolf move?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Ah okay. So you're leaning this entirely as a wolf move?

Right now, that's what I'm reading that as. Sloth hasn't been on the thread much at all besides to defend their Alley joke vote and then they come out of nowhere with a whole reads list and no reasoning. Feels like a wolf trying to seem like they're contributing, and the contents of the list seem strange as well

 

[Zenge142]

vis isn't being as helpful as i remember as a villager - not as decisive or leaderly. april just sounds like april so far.

unyeet AM
yeet vis

Could also go for Dina or April. Too many noobs (+MsP and Kras) have said too little to be readable.

What changed between these two posts to move April into your “yeet” list?
What about Dina are you reading as sus?

 

[sunshinefl]

It feels like you're a wolf who either is trying to get on some people's good sides early in the game or is having a hard time moving people out of village when you know they're not

Not gonna lie I have a hard time not giving people village points for reading me as village when I am. It’s my weakness.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Not gonna lie I have a hard time not giving people village points for reading me as village when I am. It’s my weakness.

I think it's a move Sloth might be trying to capitalize on. Logically, having someone read you village means nothing about the reader's affiliation, but people tend to like to side with those who are reading them village.