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Where is this Dy/Mel interaction that people are referring to?
Why would one of us have to be lying in this situation?Well since dy was a wolf, that lowers mel from being wolfy imo. So back to craycray
unlynch mel
lynch cray
But also noting the mel/cowgirl/pippy stuff because if mel's not a wolf, he's probably not lying so is pippy? But she hasn't really seemed wolfy today. Would be weird for her to come back chaos... (just trying to figure out what I think of this situation)
In Finny's How to Get Away With Murder game when I was a wolf, we were given cover roles, so I don't know that I'd put much stock into role claims..
Even though it will be detrimental to me, I don't think allie is a wolf. I just don't think it would've happened the way it did. She has a role claim that yes might be a cover but might be the truth. I don't think we should go that way.
This reads to me in the same tone that I felt at the end of Genesis and being lynched for revealing my vig kill. I'm certainly not defending allie, but it maybe gives her a village point in my (hypothetical) book. At this point in the game, it probably can't hurt to lynch her (besides losing a possible villager), and see if there really are cover roles if she's a wolf... But I'm not buying it as well as other people seem to be.
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Kara, please see above. Probably agree that established was too strong a word after going back and looking at these. I really just meant that crayola giving some one their role name might not mean anything.Have we really established this or is it just an idea that someone floated that caused confusion in the allieh lynch? All I've seen is a wolf who didn't respond and a wolf who gave ability but not name. Seems less like cover roles to me
Why would one of us have to be lying in this situation?
That was when the vigilante did not kill Jil after she had been tied for at least one lynch and also then had a lynch avoidance. Was much further into the game, was absolutely a scenario when I would advocate taking a shot at someone.Weren't you the one in KD's game who was saying the rezzer needed to sit down and talk to the vig about timing? Seems like you're going against that thought in this post. I could be recalling incorrectly. You did end up on a good vote though
Where is this Dy/Mel interaction that people are referring to?
What's quieter than quiet?![]()
DAMMIT I QUOTED THAT TO MAKE THAT SAME JOKE.Ice quiet!
And my grandmanator 😍Were you @finnickthedog's mentor? Because this post explains... so much
she seemed to want to die, so either wolf brag or goal was to get lynched? I think that was a chaos goal in one of the last 4 games but that person screwed it up before getting themselves lynched?what made you think chaos?
Things we encouraged her to do as a wolf when she was a wolf with us:I'm not convinced Cray is a wolf.
All I've read all day is the same convoluted, cyclical thinking that she usually falls into, and she sent me a huge, frustrated PM about this lynch push. It seems like normal Cray to me, and the PM seemed sincere.
I'm certainly not putting my vote there today unless something completely blows up.
The Bar game that Trilt and I modded. Chaos had to lynch a wolf, a villager, and then get themselves lynched.she seemed to want to die, so either wolf brag or goal was to get lynched? I think that was a chaos goal in one of the last 4 games but that person screwed it up before getting themselves lynched?
Thank god someone else said this because I just noticed that part of that comment and was about to go bananas lolMod write up literally said LIS barely avoided a mod smiting only to die anyway... On a night that we now have confirmed to be a night where wolves had two kills. Pls recalibrate your random threats about village incompetence to be more accurate
Psst Coop just shot a wolf for us so you may be barking up the wrong tree...Unless we lynch you tonight!
This is like the least wolfy role name imaginable given who one of these mods is, but I literally do not understand the reasoning behind the rest of this post at all.So I think Snowy is the village redirector, and I hope the wolves kill her, unless I'm wrong and she's one of them. They should, since as a neutral redirector I killed 3/4 wolves. So yeah, wolves, if you figure out the redirector you should kill them rather than bank on them causing more harm than good for village (unlike say, a vig, maybe). Villager redirects usually aren't lethal, wolf ones are. Don't die in your own crossfire.
I am basing this off the chat between her and Pippy about the redirects and roles, and I think Pippy tried to guess her role, and she made some comment with a wink, and that's when I thought she might be the redirector, otherwise I was with Mel all the way about her sketchiness, although I was also convinced about Mel. But just because you agree with someone that someone else is sketchy doesn't clear them, hence why agreeing with Mel to lynch Snowy, I still wanted to lynch Mel. And this was my always talked about plan to lynch Mel and then Snowy. I also had Dy and KC up on that list, but what-the-**** ever. Day 1 they were TOP, o ye of short memory. I admit I backburnered them for various reasons that was mostly "they don't sound as sketch now, and oh lookie, Mel/Snowy/Pippy/Cowgirl."
I'm not going to go dig up the posts that made me think Snowy was redirector for you guys, this was more than I wanted to say anyway, because I wasn't trying to get her killed by wolves. Until now. I'm not putting more work into this game than I have already.
I'm surprised no one thought Pippy coming back and no longer having it out for Mel was odd. She also really danced around answering about that, and I did in fact mention that before the Dy info. Funny how it was literally on the tails of me pressuring her for that, that she called me out.
Where I stood on Pippy and Mel really stood around how I read the Mel/Dy exchange earlier and what happened with Pippy. I said more than once, that of the 3, Mel/Pippy/Cowgirl, I felt AT LEAST one had to be a wolf. Mel came on with a good defense post AND Dy was wolf AND I didn't read it as wolf/wolf. So I voted for my next wolf/surely must die eventually candidate. It's all in black and white. See what you want.
Go ahead. Trust those 4. I told you why I moved off Snowy and Mel, but that's not ironclad. I don't trust the rez. Cowgirl just isn't reading wolf to me, I'm putting the chances of that around the chances it was just Mel's hint on thread that did it. Still don't trust Pippy. My point isn't that I'm right about any of it; my point is that none of this makes me wolfy. Just potentially wrong.
For all I know, this is a plot between Mel and Pippy that is not in the village's favor.
Also,
CrayCray - You are Bronner's Christmas Wonderland Do you like Christmas? Wally Bronner obviously did because he founded "the World's Largest Christmas Store"--Bronner's Christmas Wonderland--in 1945. Bronner's personalizes 400,000+ ornaments every year and has billboards in seven different states, the most distant one being located near Ocala, Florida. With a little (or a lot) of Christmas magic, you are able to survive one night kill attempt.
Now, watch as this does nothing to save me, as I can't prove the ability, and even if I wasn't lynched, the wolves will not bother to night kill me, knowing I have no good power role, and that every day I live my ability is unconfirmed, I look sketch, they look good, and that it takes 2 kills to kill me. It's not the end of the world for you guys to lynch me, except that if you weren't set on lynching me and had left me to the wolves, that's an extra night to hunt wolves.
Good job on the bandwagon on me to hide the wolves and silent players.
Unlynch Pippy
Lynch Crayola
The only other time I ever wanted the wolves to win this much was when I wolfed.
Have fun guys.
Kara, please see above. Probably agree that established was too strong a word after going back and looking at these. I really just meant that crayola giving some one their role name might not mean anything.
That was when the vigilante did not kill Jil after she had been tied for at least one lynch and also then had a lynch avoidance. Was much further into the game, was absolutely a scenario when I would advocate taking a shot at someone.
This was N2 and Coop was virtually off the board yesterday -- not exactly a long-standing village question that needed to be resolved more quickly with an assassin kill. Super different scenarios.
Also rezzes in that game happened late. This one happened at appropriately village time -- as soon as possible.
I think it's a crayola rage quit?This is like the least wolfy role name imaginable given who one of these mods is, but I literally do not understand the reasoning behind the rest of this post at all.
Lol ok, I take it back. I did get that vibe, yes. I meant the actual logic in the post.I think it's a crayola rage quit?
Seems like she thinks redirector is a neutral role? If I'm reading it from the perspective that she's village.Lol ok, I take it back. I did get that vibe, yes. I meant the actual logic in the post.
Bitter much? Get over it. This happens so much, it's not personal it's WW your play has been distracting af and not helpful to the village. I wouldn't be surprised if you flipped wolf still. Your logic hasn't made any sense. Improve your play or take it less seriously. Finn = FiiiiiinnneSo I think Snowy is the village redirector, and I hope the wolves kill her, unless I'm wrong and she's one of them. They should, since as a neutral redirector I killed 3/4 wolves. So yeah, wolves, if you figure out the redirector you should kill them rather than bank on them causing more harm than good for village (unlike say, a vig, maybe). Villager redirects usually aren't lethal, wolf ones are. Don't die in your own crossfire.
I am basing this off the chat between her and Pippy about the redirects and roles, and I think Pippy tried to guess her role, and she made some comment with a wink, and that's when I thought she might be the redirector, otherwise I was with Mel all the way about her sketchiness, although I was also convinced about Mel. But just because you agree with someone that someone else is sketchy doesn't clear them, hence why agreeing with Mel to lynch Snowy, I still wanted to lynch Mel. And this was my always talked about plan to lynch Mel and then Snowy. I also had Dy and KC up on that list, but what-the-**** ever. Day 1 they were TOP, o ye of short memory. I admit I backburnered them for various reasons that was mostly "they don't sound as sketch now, and oh lookie, Mel/Snowy/Pippy/Cowgirl."
I'm not going to go dig up the posts that made me think Snowy was redirector for you guys, this was more than I wanted to say anyway, because I wasn't trying to get her killed by wolves. Until now. I'm not putting more work into this game than I have already.
I'm surprised no one thought Pippy coming back and no longer having it out for Mel was odd. She also really danced around answering about that, and I did in fact mention that before the Dy info. Funny how it was literally on the tails of me pressuring her for that, that she called me out.
Where I stood on Pippy and Mel really stood around how I read the Mel/Dy exchange earlier and what happened with Pippy. I said more than once, that of the 3, Mel/Pippy/Cowgirl, I felt AT LEAST one had to be a wolf. Mel came on with a good defense post AND Dy was wolf AND I didn't read it as wolf/wolf. So I voted for my next wolf/surely must die eventually candidate. It's all in black and white. See what you want.
Go ahead. Trust those 4. I told you why I moved off Snowy and Mel, but that's not ironclad. I don't trust the rez. Cowgirl just isn't reading wolf to me, I'm putting the chances of that around the chances it was just Mel's hint on thread that did it. Still don't trust Pippy. My point isn't that I'm right about any of it; my point is that none of this makes me wolfy. Just potentially wrong.
For all I know, this is a plot between Mel and Pippy that is not in the village's favor.
Also,
CrayCray - You are Bronner's Christmas Wonderland Do you like Christmas? Wally Bronner obviously did because he founded "the World's Largest Christmas Store"--Bronner's Christmas Wonderland--in 1945. Bronner's personalizes 400,000+ ornaments every year and has billboards in seven different states, the most distant one being located near Ocala, Florida. With a little (or a lot) of Christmas magic, you are able to survive one night kill attempt.
Now, watch as this does nothing to save me, as I can't prove the ability, and even if I wasn't lynched, the wolves will not bother to night kill me, knowing I have no good power role, and that every day I live my ability is unconfirmed, I look sketch, they look good, and that it takes 2 kills to kill me. It's not the end of the world for you guys to lynch me, except that if you weren't set on lynching me and had left me to the wolves, that's an extra night to hunt wolves.
Good job on the bandwagon on me to hide the wolves and silent players.
Unlynch Pippy
Lynch Crayola
The only other time I ever wanted the wolves to win this much was when I wolfed.
Have fun guys.
Agreed. I noted this early on in the game as well.your play has been distracting af and not helpful to the village
Cray: the whole convo with kcough and with Cray forgetting to put in “lynch” was slightly weird, but what is moreso weird to me is the rambling that followed. Haven’t played with Cray (or anyone) before, so it’s hard to say whether that’s normal or not. But to a new player, the rambling wasn’t very helpful in addressing village concerns and more felt like defensiveness mixed in with really weak speculation.
Seems like she thinks redirector is a neutral role? If I'm reading it from the perspective that she's village.
If she's wolfy then who knows what she hoped to accomplish with that.
For the general interest of everyone, I did just look this up -- it is a real place and is probably Ski's version of HeavenCrayCray - You are Bronner's Christmas Wonderland Do you like Christmas? Wally Bronner obviously did because he founded "the World's Largest Christmas Store"--Bronner's Christmas Wonderland--in 1945. Bronner's personalizes 400,000+ ornaments every year and has billboards in seven different states, the most distant one being located near Ocala, Florida. With a little (or a lot) of Christmas magic, you are able to survive one night kill attempt.
did we scare away staff? there is no vote here for them...Unofficial Day 3 Lynch Tally
staff () -
SoFlo (2) - Lyra, kata
Mel (3) - Sporty, Jil, Fern
Cray (9) - Kara, Coop, Pippy, jboo, Paws, 3m, DVMD, Snowy, Cray
Pippy () -
genny (2) - kc, vmh
kc (1) - FTB
Coop (1) - SoFlo
FTB (2) - cowgirl, genny
Snowy (2) - Mel, AM
22/23
lynch close in 30 minutes
This is like the least wolfy role name imaginable given who one of these mods is, but I literally do not understand the reasoning behind the rest of this post at all.
This is abysmal play if you're a villager. Do the wolves have a restriction about PMing during the day?No, my point is that wolves should not underestimate a redirector and let them live because they seem sketch and kick up chaos. My point was look how much damage a neutral redirector did to wolves.
So message to wolves: kill the redirector. I think it's Snowy.
Bitter much? Get over it. This happens so much, it's not personal it's WW your play has been distracting af and not helpful to the village. I wouldn't be surprised if you flipped wolf still. Your logic hasn't made any sense. Improve your play or take it less seriously. Finn = Fiiiiiinnne
But there's like...internal contradictions up the wazoo in that post.I am setting the record straight about who I wanted to lynch and why, and why I backed off some of those people.
This is abysmal play if you're a villager. Do the wolves have a restriction about PMing during the day?
Redirecters have very often been wolves. I feel like you should know that.Gonna be honest, still don't see the redirects as wolfy (and no, I'm not the redirector). They feel 100% to me like when Crayola was the redirector back in the game where she took out 80% of the wolf pack on her own using redirection (as a wolf in that game, the devastating accuracy of her plays was just astonishing). She redirected people she thought had power roles onto players she thought were fishy (so pip with a reasonable suspicion of a power role thanks to defense by Mel onto staff who was definitely fishy). The moves make sense to me. I could be 100% wrong, but I also don't think I've seen a wolf redirector in... ever? If the redirector is wolfy then I'll concede that chili doesn't have to have beans, but I just don't feel it.
If dy is a wolf with an every even night bonus kill... I don't really want to wait around for her to use it again.
I thought you made some really weird (for you) comments earlier in the game, but if you are saying what I think you are saying about your role (in a super non-subtle way) then yeah, you are likely village.Lol, that's the thing about my gameplay. As a villager I don't worry about trying not to sound like a wolf. I mean, I've tried because people get upset, but people find me sketch no matter what I try, so I gotta just be me.
I was much more conservative as a wolf, something which people used to tag me. I talked out of it, but ask @Jilary because she seemed the only one who was never really fooled in the slightest. Unless she's a wolf this game trying to mislynch me. Not that I think that's likely, but ya never know.
Could I, with only one more game under my belt (and I died D1) have figured out a new master wolf strategy that plays on being totally wolftastic in a new flavor? All while not seeming my usual villager self? By coming up with bizarre mistakes? Playing as a wolf cub dropped on her head, on purpose??
So what is your ww experience? Do you know what roles are wolfy and which aren’t?Cray told me about her ability in PM. I won't say what since she doesn't want to, but it made me more inclined to think she was village. And I fully realize she could have lied to me and if she turns up wolf I'll probably be next, but it seemed fair to speak up.
What?! How could you confuse those two?!Oh man, my brain mixed up vanilla ice and outkast somehow. My brain has been quietly shutting down for the past hour or so so I'm not responsible for what references I ruin here
I think you missed a major event that clearly accounts for why there were two kills last night. I’m pretty sure it won’t happen again though (thanks coop!)Revealing my ability will not save me, and it will only ruin the ability if for some reason I wasn't lynched.
I've already said my death is going to be like Allie's - totally shyte logic driving it. I'm not telling my role to the ass hats that couldn't follow directions and had to not only get a villager killed, but I suspect LIS' death was in some way related to mod-smiting for not only using villager code as verboten, but then mocking the Michigan amore restriction. I'm not putting fuel on that village fire for my own burning at the stake. You should thank me for not giving you more rope to hang yourselves with, AGAIN.
Rather die with a little dignity.
I think you may have missed a really big event today.Lynch Co op!
Can you share this please? My laptop is having trouble connecting to the internet.So if the wolves wanted to narrow down where johnna got her info from, they'd go after me or vmh. I think FTB has been misconstruing my participation level today. Yeah, I know I've been away, but I did post about being skeptical of dy's role claim today, not just a single post about having a posting restriction that FTB seems to have latched onto.
lynch FTB
I don't know what you're referring to.Can you share this please? My laptop is having trouble connecting to the internet.
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Gotta love how they dropped that one and ditched hm? So far I'm thinking noobet but also lynch candidate in my mind.I think you may have missed a really big event today.
When I say abysmal, I'm only referring to you pointing to another player as having a power role and asking the wolves to kill them. Your long posts, interesting logic, weird way of making connections, all just part of how you play, and I wouldn't judge someone for style.Not a wolf. Just, people were upset I wasn't sharing enough with the class. I want it crystal why I moved off Snowy but wouldn't say before. I want it crystal why I said what I said about my ability.
The abysmal play is trying to use villager code after Allie, and people making a stink about some of my mistakes. The shyte logic and long posts you guys detest, sure. That I didn't know how ties always resolve? When Kara points out I'm newer than Snowy??
Jesus girl, it's not personal it's a game!Not a wolf. Just, people were upset I wasn't sharing enough with the class. I want it crystal why I moved off Snowy but wouldn't say before. I want it crystal why I said what I said about my ability.
The abysmal play is trying to use villager code after Allie, and people making a stink about some of my mistakes. The shyte logic and long posts you guys detest, sure. That I didn't know how ties always resolve? When Kara points out I'm newer than Snowy??
Where you said you were suspicious of dyI don't know what you're referring to.
This is my first game. I don't know which roles are wolfy and which aren't, I'll freely admit that. That said, I can't think of any way the ability Cray told me would benefit wolves.So what is your ww experience? Do you know what roles are wolfy and which aren’t?
I think Dy’s use of a vig kill is appropriate, just speaking in broad terms of whether to kill vs. not kill. There are too many times when vig abilities go unused. I might have picked coop as a target had I been the vig this game.
However, I’m not sure I believe her ability claim.
Also think it’s interesting that pip and Dy were both redirected. That redirector is pretty good at choosing people with abilities.![]()
Finn = Fiiiiiinnne
Literally just went and opened all my old spreadsheets from when I was more motivated and only 2 games had redirectors and both were village (HP by k-dubs and Trilt's faves). So...Redirecters have very often been wolves. I feel like you should know that.
There was just a wolf redirector in one of the most recent games, iirc.Literally just went and opened all my old spreadsheets from when I was more motivated and only 2 games had redirectors and both were village (HP by k-dubs and Trilt's faves). So...
Possible? Of course. Very often? I wouldn't say so. It feels like a sketch ability, which I think is why it's so often a village one.
Oh well in that case
It was a dumba** move because by your own logic of there has to be a wolf in cowgirl/me/Pippy and me being cleared, the logical vote would have been Cowgirl because Pippy is the one who practically drove the Dy lynch today. Highly doubtful that she came back rezzed as a wolf and then proceeded to bus a fellow wolf when she could have stuck to lynching me and driving that wagon based on how suspect I was.
If Cray DOES flip wolf I'd be strongly convinced that Cowgirl is worth lynching next because this could have been cray not thinking and reactively lynching Pippy because the other option was a wolf-buddy.
Also the gif was in reference to any game that you were a redirector regardless of alignment, you consistently made **** hit the fan and made me want to duck and cover haha
Michigan good