Time To Get a WWatch - Game Thread

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Also, given what I know about Dubz and Zenge, I would not expect a ton of purely vanilla roles.
ick. dubz loves vanilla. and i don't like your PR speculation.
shaking a box full of beetles.
is this a thing? are you mean to bugs?
angry bear avatars
is it wrong that this reminds me of a constipated cat? does it get any better if i say i'm a vet and i have a soft spot for constipated cats?
But the fact that the two of you rolled into thread and were both immediately chummy and working to establish yourselves as the town core is very much something I'm keeping in mind.
how's that going for you? how has this evolved?
these posts are precious. they are townie.

april seems fine.
i'm finding it interesting that april is being much more widely village read in this game than she usually is. i agree with the read fwiw.
Of course, last time True was wolfing I ran my head into a brick wall not wanting to yeet him so maybe my track record is tarnished... But he feels like wolf!True to me.
If he flips wolf April looks real bad.
i don't understand the link of april and true.
Question: Do y'all wear your watches on your left wrist or your right wrist?
what is this

Are all of the new peeps dudes? Because that dramatically disrupts the estrogen-fueled society of the pre-vet forum.
YASS
that was distinctly not my impression from reading her iso and i'm not sure how to explain that feeling without doing an exhaustive summary which i'm not sure anyone wants

she had a few quote-stripey wall posts, but in terms of the actual content they felt pretty lean, and since then i'm not sure i could tell you what she thinks about anyone in this game besides voting me - and even then it was with a vote she didn't care to do much with. other than that most of her posts trended toward idle commentary where i didn't see much in the way of solving intent. i don't mind a bi of banter since the atmosphere here is laid back but i gottoo much impression she's talkin just to talk.

i hate to pull the uno reverse card but - can you show me a couple posts of hers you thought were good?
oh i actually like this. i disagree with your conclusion but i can see where you're coming from and it's more of a town perspective than i thought.
 
Can others tell me how normal it is for Empire to just hand out village reads for single posts?

JJJ is also handing out a lot of village reads but it's a different feel. JJJ seems to be looking at someone's entire history cumulatively to come to that decision with the occasional thoroughly explained strong comment on a single post, whereas Empire is like "I like this, village read. Good observation, village read."
just for the record - that is a pretty normal thing for me, i could probably link instances of me doing it in other games but i'm not sure if you're in the mood for even more homework
 
just for the record - that is a pretty normal thing for me, i could probably link instances of me doing it in other games but i'm not sure if you're in the mood for even more homework
Yeh I get enough of that from my classes, I'm all good. You should be impressed that I even did an ISO on D1 lol
 
Just gives me good feelings.

My D1 reads are terrible when I'm village and I'm giving a list because I want to be helpful and people specifically requested it. I don't have clear reasons for most of this, it's just sportyvoicetone and vibes.
just a word of advice - do't worry so much about not having good day 1 reads (very few people do). The most helpful thing you can do is make yourself obvious town by explaining your thought process as best as you possibly can. The accuracy is less important than knowing why you're thinking that stuff.

So, like, the bottom tier - are those wolfreads or just people who haven't struck you as villagery?
 
Yeh I get enough of that from my classes, I'm all good. You should be impressed that I even did an ISO on D1 lol
Well I went through it and I will say thank you, I appreciate it

this again mostly clears up any doubts i had on your alignment but i see where you're coming from with some of the stuff on samac - i would hardly pretend it's a confident read for me but i felt like exploring that angle

hope the brief reply isn't a disappointment because i do appreciate the effort you put in
 
Well I went through it and I will say thank you, I appreciate it

this again mostly clears up any doubts i had on your alignment but i see where you're coming from with some of the stuff on samac - i would hardly pretend it's a confident read for me but i felt like exploring that angle

hope the brief reply isn't a disappointment because i do appreciate the effort you put in
Nah I didn't expect recognition, just pointing out that I'm a lazy WWer lol
 
I’m not sure Empire is an elimination I prefer as of right now. I am a little torn, but he seems okay?
 
truenamer still kind of strikes me as classically low-confidence townie

need to read over some other people still. not finding much to suspect

votes on nate are fine if he's not producing content

i would speculate that there's a wolf in the people pushing m or voting me but haven't attempted to go through those names yet - maybe an exercise for tomorrow
 
Day 1: Is it TTime to Start a Tally?

PSV (1) - AM
April ()
True () - Santy
Nate (2) - Empire, Santy, JJJ
AM (2) - genny, Nate
JJJ (1) - Clem
Santy (1) - Sporty
Empire (2) - samac, April
samac (1) - Empire

10/12

Missing:< 1/4 of a donut

Vote closes at 9pm CDT WEDNESDAY ( TODAY!) (~15.25 hours?)
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Also: @Empire and @Santygrass and anyone else: would you kindly do an unvote/unyeet to negate your previous vote? I have included you on the tally but left previous ones there in italics cause I hadn’t seen an unvote.

I request this for the sake of technicalities, thank you much :biglove:
 
well generally speaking i don't react much to naked votes as either alignment - have you gotten anything out of voting me?
Yeah, that you got uncomfortable and voted me back.

Just been unusually busy and tired, and don't like posting reads early even when I'm not.

Sorry. I'll get to it. Wish this had started a week ago for real life reasons, not giving you my best right now.
The AtE is noted.
i can kind of see it though i suspect there may be a reasonable explanation

you can be town regardless for the observation
Huh.

@samac what made you unvote True?
It felt stale and I wanted to go elsewhere and see what happened.

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge
I’m not sure if this wolf is TWTBW or you’re trying to make hot takes.

I don't understand this list. Santy a wolf read? Clem a wolf read? Genny? JJJ?
Sporty towny? Empire towny? Nate towny?
I think sporty might be a little towny too. She’s right, I was poking at her, but not to get the reaction she thought I was looking for.

that was distinctly not my impression from reading her iso and i'm not sure how to explain that feeling without doing an exhaustive summary which i'm not sure anyone wants

she had a few quote-stripey wall posts, but in terms of the actual content they felt pretty lean, and since then i'm not sure i could tell you what she thinks about anyone in this game besides voting me - and even then it was with a vote she didn't care to do much with. other than that most of her posts trended toward idle commentary where i didn't see much in the way of solving intent. i don't mind a bi of banter since the atmosphere here is laid back but i gottoo much impression she's talkin just to talk.

i hate to pull the uno reverse card but - can you show me a couple posts of hers you thought were good?
I quoted this before I got to the april post, I think you can see where I lean on folks and am a chatty player. :shrug:
They've both been feeling normal to me. Less to go off of for Sporty but her thread entrance is exactly what I would expect. She arrived in the thread late so I'm going to hopefully have more to see from her before vote close, but there's nothing about her so far that's pinged me.

Samac is feeling like she was before I ate her in my last game, but I am not especially good at reading her and ranked her a bit lower to hedge for that.
I don’t like your hedge on me. I need to go back and look, because I feel like you’ve been confidently village reading me day 1 recently.
Well, I tried not to get too gung-ho pulling content posts but here we are because I found more than I was looking for. Putting in spoiler to make life easier. Also, this isn't a Samac iso necessarily for the sake of reading her, this is just to satisfy the "low content:noise ratio" comment that I think isn't true, as well as your perspective that her reads aren't clear and her posts are just idle commentary.

Forming reads, a good deal of "I like this post, I hate that post" which is fine by me because it was/is still early in the game and fits her village meta.

Furthering her reads, explaining her basis

Forming more reads, bringing attention to things that might generate more interactions, questioning to find lines of reasoning

Starting to form PSV read, gives brief basis for why

Lots more reads

Generating interactions, inquiring for reasoning

Active game-solving attempt with lines of reasoning readily apparent

Getting a basis for others' AM reads

TL;DR: Samac is generating a lot of content - real content, not lean white noise just to talk, not idle commentary. Might not always be saying outright "I think __ is a wolf and __ is village" but you can definitely tell where her reads lie from her reasoning and pushes, so I don't think you're correct in saying you wouldn't be able to figure out where her suspicions lie. Just from this handful of posts, I can tell that she's wolf reading true and you, feels fine about AM, JJJ, PSV, and genny, and santy is a question mark.

Content generation doesn't automatically mean she's village because wolves sure can generate content too, but I don't think low signal:noise ratio is accurate, nor do I think it's accurate to say she's not generating reads.
Ily
 
truenamer still kind of strikes me as classically low-confidence townie

need to read over some other people still. not finding much to suspect

votes on nate are fine if he's not producing content

i would speculate that there's a wolf in the people pushing m or voting me but haven't attempted to go through those names yet - maybe an exercise for tomorrow
The people voting you - april and I?
 
What's got Nate in your greens?
His tone has been helpful/clear and he's been willing to stick his neck out a bit to generate data and increase interactions. I usually find that pro-village, especially on D1.

just a word of advice - do't worry so much about not having good day 1 reads (very few people do). The most helpful thing you can do is make yourself obvious town by explaining your thought process as best as you possibly can. The accuracy is less important than knowing why you're thinking that stuff.

So, like, the bottom tier - are those wolfreads or just people who haven't struck you as villagery?
No one currently feels clearly wolfy to me other than our lovely moderators. People at the bottom are just people I feel least good about at the moment.

If I had a clear wolf read, I would be voting for them.
 
Yeah, that you got uncomfortable and voted me back.


The AtE is noted.

Huh.


It felt stale and I wanted to go elsewhere and see what happened.


I’m not sure if this wolf is TWTBW or you’re trying to make hot takes.


I think sporty might be a little towny too. She’s right, I was poking at her, but not to get the reaction she thought I was looking for.


I quoted this before I got to the april post, I think you can see where I lean on folks and am a chatty player. :shrug:

I don’t like your hedge on me. I need to go back and look, because I feel like you’ve been confidently village reading me day 1 recently.

Ily
Just going to say that we all have a problem with expecting people's perspectives on each other to remain static.

It's going to be rare for me to perfectly agree with the me from a few months ago.
 
Just going to say that we all have a problem with expecting people's perspectives on each other to remain static.

It's going to be rare for me to perfectly agree with the me from a few months ago.
Sure, I just thought you were getting fairly good at picking up day 1 samac energy. Last 2 games with villaged together you did. I’m too lazy to go back further tho. You just feel different this game. And I can’t put my finger on why.
 
Sure, I just thought you were getting fairly good at picking up day 1 samac energy. Last 2 games with villaged together you did. I’m too lazy to go back further tho. You just feel different this game. And I can’t put my finger on why.
Oh, I fully agree. I felt much more village to myself during my wolf game. Head's not in it right now, and I'm getting increasingly worried that I'm going to blow my good record because of it.
 
True, can you quote posts from Nate that felt like them sticking out their neck?

My vote is there cause I dont felt that at all
 
Also: @Empire and @Santygrass and anyone else: would you kindly do an unvote/unyeet to negate your previous vote? I have included you on the tally but left previous ones there in italics cause I hadn’t seen an unvote.

I request this for the sake of technicalities, thank you much :biglove:
sure thing. (it helps when these procedures are formally delineated in the rules, didn't see anything there)

Unvote Nate
 
The people voting you - april and I?
hence the inclusion of the word "pushing", because while the two of you are the only ones formally voting me there are other people who have definitely been angling toward possibly voting me
 
Day 1: Is it TTime to Start a Tally?

PSV (1) - AM
April ()
True ()
Nate (2) - Santy, JJJ
AM (2) - genny, AM
JJJ (1) - Clem
Santy (1) - Sporty
Empire (2) - samac, April
samac (1) - Empire

10/12

Missing: @potentialsheltervet @Truenamer

Vote closes at 9pm CDT WEDNESDAY (TODAY!) (~13.25 hours?)
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True, can you quote posts from Nate that felt like them sticking out their neck?

My vote is there cause I dont felt that at all
I'll do you one better and ISO him when I get a chance today. Want to make sure my feel for him isn't colored too much by him being nice and friendly.
 
True, can you quote posts from Nate that felt like them sticking out their neck?

My vote is there cause I dont felt that at all
seconding this

i went back to nate's iso and actually found something i don't like beyond him not having much content
 
Sure, I just thought you were getting fairly good at picking up day 1 samac energy. Last 2 games with villaged together you did. I’m too lazy to go back further tho. You just feel different this game. And I can’t put my finger on why.
this is >rand town I'd say based on recent experience in games elsewhere where there was a high degree of familiarity between most of the players

Unvote samac

Vote Nate
 
this is >rand town I'd say based on recent experience in games elsewhere where there was a high degree of familiarity between most of the players

Unvote samac

Vote Nate
Looking forward to ye olde Nate ISO, but I generally approve of not voting for Samac right now. She's a very strong villager and there just isn't enough evidence that she's wolfing for a day one yeet to feel reasonable to me.

And it's not like her flip would be particularly clearing for other folks at this point.
 
@JaggedJimmyJay You mentioned feeling okay about Empire. Who are you wolf reading right now, then? I know you're focusing on a town core but we do have to vote people out.
 
not like a vote necessarily signifies intent to yeet but pressure is a useful tool and game could use some more of it
 
@JaggedJimmyJay You mentioned feeling okay about Empire. Who are you wolf reading right now, then? I know you're focusing on a town core but we do have to vote people out.
Closest player to a proper “mafia read” would be Nate. Truenamer and Clem exist near to that in a sort of “null” space that becomes suspicious by default when most others seem town.
 
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