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it's close to the one i've had sitting in notepad with the exception of truenamer (where i feel the urge to remain stubbornly contrarian) and psv (i said she was more villagery than her wolf game but for stubborn ego reasons i will remain suspicious until she elaborates on her read of me)
 
Santygrass said:
Also Clem/JJJ prob another unpairing tho I am more careful since Clem its an agent of chaos
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As in: judging by JJJ reaction to Clem vote on them it didnt seem like something prepared, but also I think Clem could perfectly vote him that way without previous advice LMAO
 
If Nate is mafia, I think Truenamer fits with him. This doesn’t have to mean anything right now, but perhaps refer back later if applicable.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Normally I do this stuff comprehensively on my own, but it’s tough with this interface. So I’ll crowd source.

When y’all think of pairs of players in this game that you think definitely don’t fit together as mafia teammates, who are those pairs?
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AM and Nate is obvious. That kind of behavior would be unheard of from her with a packmate. I'll think about the less obvious anti-pairs.

JaggedJimmyJay said:
I would call Truenamer’s reads list being against-the-grain generally non alignment indicative (as a general take, I have no meta). I’ve seen plenty of that both ways. I do believe though that the list may have important implications with respect to association. If Truenamer is mafia, then he has teammates. I may propose theories later.
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Lol I truly hate D1 reads lists, but I am glad that it's generated some amount of discussion and content.

If nothing else, I hope it helps people organize their thoughts. Sometimes in my job it helps to see something that's obviously a terrible design or plan to get a clear picture of what the correct design should be.
 
I can pull some recepits, but quick answer would be that their initial approach/energy I read as towny, and in actual content I see towny inquisitiveness/reads that I vibe with pretty much
 
Santygrass said:
I can pull some recepits, but quick answer would be that their initial approach/energy I read as towny, and in actual content I see towny inquisitiveness/reads that I vibe with pretty much
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I don't disagree, just wanted to hear your reasoning. Thanks!
 
Truenamer said:
I suppose it's not helpful to hold it too long, huh?

Yeet NatetheLesser

Come show up and give me a reason to change this.
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I know this might be a big ask but can you quote your own posts about Nate leading up to this vote? Headed to work rn but trying to figure out why this feels manufactured, might change my mind with context
 
Empire said:
Thanks for the input, appreciated. I don't think the even-keeled response is necessarily a villa tell as it could easily be a personality thing and it was a little strange that he chose not to directly speak to me about it. what struck me though is this sequence:







the question is: what is he doing here asking jay about the read? He has no feelings on it, apparently. But it was notable enough to ask jay about it? What's the purpose here? Is he trying to get a better read on me? on jay? It doesn't feel like a line of questioning that will actually lead anywhere useful which makes me wonder if he's asking about it just for the sake of having something to talk about. Given the overall brevity of his ISO it struck me as an unusual thing to focus on, something that didn't really give him a read one way of the other.
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@Aprilthearab @samac thoughts on this posts?

In regards to both Empire and Nate (?
 
Aprilthearab said:
I know this might be a big ask but can you quote your own posts about Nate leading up to this vote? Headed to work rn but trying to figure out why this feels manufactured, might change my mind with context
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I just did a bit ISO of every one of his posts like, half a page up
 
Aprilthearab said:
I know this might be a big ask but can you quote your own posts about Nate leading up to this vote? Headed to work rn but trying to figure out why this feels manufactured, might change my mind with context
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Truenamer said:
Y'all better at least skim this!

These four posts constitute Nate's entrance to the thread. Very inoffensive from my perspective, I appreciate the bio/intro. No real content in these.



Still no content. I certainly can't throw stones for being busy, but we're getting fairly far in and so far his question to JJJ about Empire's read is the only gameplay.


Bit of an abrupt snap-vote on AM. I'd given him village points for this; I think any wolf who's played with AM knows better than to go after her early (or at least without something really solid). But on review, he hasn't played with her very much, and it was an unusual game. Might have given too much weight to that.


Don't think I responded to this properly. I use "Hmm" reacts to mean something in the range from "that's interesting but I don't know if I fully agree" to "I wonder why". In this case, yes, I was curious about the rationale.


His reaction to AM's counter-vote felt relaxed and villagey at the time.


Very even-keeled about Empire's wolfread on him.


More discussion with AM, re: his vote for her. This seemed like acceptable reason for a D1 vote over a day before yeet close to me.



Back to minimal content/gameplay.


And that's it, all his posts. This one is being mildly helpful again.

I believe I overweighted Nate's one vote on AM as being too risky for a wolf, given that he may not be familiar with how hard she reacts to early votes on her, and am a bit biased because he's friendly and lighthearted. He shouldn't be higher than my neutrals.
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Truenamer said:
Yeah, and I should clarify that I didn't skip any posts. That's all of them.

Hoping to hear more crunchy material from him when he catches up today.
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Truenamer said:
AM and Nate is obvious. That kind of behavior would be unheard of from her with a packmate. I'll think about the less obvious anti-pairs.


Lol I truly hate D1 reads lists, but I am glad that it's generated some amount of discussion and content.

If nothing else, I hope it helps people organize their thoughts. Sometimes in my job it helps to see something that's obviously a terrible design or plan to get a clear picture of what the correct design should be.
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Here.

I want to see more from him and his flip will clear AM.
 
I am somewhat uncomfortable with True's vote, but I still want pressure in Nate.
 
Day 1: Is it TTime to Start a Tally?

PSV ()
April ()
True ()
Nate (5) - Santy, AM, JJJ, Empire, True
AM (2) - genny, Nate
JJJ (1) - Clem
Santy (1) - Sporty
Empire (3) - samac, April, PSV
samac ()

12/12

Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: No one 😱

Vote closes at 9pm CDT WEDNESDAY (TODAY!) (~8.5 hours)
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If Truenamer and Nate are both mafia, I’m not sure there’s much choice right now.

It’d be valuable to review True’s takes on Empire, the current counterwagon.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
If Truenamer and Nate are both mafia, I’m not sure there’s much choice right now.

It’d be valuable to review True’s takes on Empire, the current counterwagon.
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I would certainly have a choice; there was a tie between him and Empire, and in a W/W True/Nate world it would have been easy to come up with a reason to go for Empire instead.

In a W/W/W True/Nate/Empire world, good job, y'all are crushing it, but also I could have started some movement on you or Santy.
 
WildZoo said:
Day 1: Is it TTime to Start a Tally?

PSV (1) - AM
April ()
True ()
Nate (4) - Santy, JJJ, Empire, True
AM (1) - genny
JJJ (1) - Clem
Santy (1) - Sporty
Empire (3) - samac, April, PSV
samac ()

11/12

Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: @NateTheLesser

Vote closes at 9pm CDT WEDNESDAY (TODAY!) (~8.5 hours)
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@WildZoo Is my vote supposed to be on PSV?
 
Empire thoughts will appear when I finish this spreadsheet (bad work kind not good WW kind)
 
My trouble with Nate, summarized:

I was kind of banking on him to join my group of town reads. I don’t have a lot of experience with him (a couple games playing and spectating), but what I’ve seen suggests to me a player that I’d be able to find as town pretty reliably. He has a lot of clarity in his process that resonates with me. So I hoped I’d see that in this Day 1 and it’d propel my solving forward.

But it hasn’t been there.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
My trouble with Nate, summarized:

I was kind of banking on him to join my group of town reads. I don’t have a lot of experience with him (a couple games playing and spectating), but what I’ve seen suggests to me a player that I’d be able to find as town pretty reliably. He has a lot of clarity in his process that resonates with me. So I hoped I’d see that in this Day 1 and it’d propel my solving forward.

But it hasn’t been there.
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The reason I can see myself changing my vote is that it's not just that his process hasn't been here, he hasn't been here. Very few posts to go off of. Hope that changes (unless he's a wolf, in which case this is good and fine).
 
My SportPonies read is a black void where nothing exists nor has ever existed before, and all who look into the void too deeply are deconstructed from the physical world to become, themselves, nothingless — of the blackness, void of body and soul.

Put another way, I have a null read on SportPonies.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
My SportPonies read is a black void where nothing exists nor has ever existed before, and all who look into the void too deeply are deconstructed from the physical world to become, themselves, nothingless — of the blackness, void of body and soul.

Put another way, I have a null read on SportPonies.
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Join the party for everyone ever
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Normally I do this stuff comprehensively on my own, but it’s tough with this interface. So I’ll crowd source.

When y’all think of pairs of players in this game that you think definitely don’t fit together as mafia teammates, who are those pairs?
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Nate and AM and PSV and AM are 2 incompatible pairs for me.
Aprilthearab said:
I know that this comment is coming out of nowhere pages later but I forgot to comment on it earlier. I got v/v vibes from JJJ and Clem's accusatory interaction
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What was village-y about it?
 
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