Tortall WW Official Game Thread

[devyn]

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Not sure if it would help or not now, to be honest. Unless it was after the night we thought a conversion took place (can't remember exactly when that was)? When I thought there were 2 others claiming a role similar to mine I thought that maybe someone I shared my role with was converted, passed the info to their fellow wolves, and one of the wolves decided to use it when telling others about their role. Hopefully that makes sense outside my head!

Anyway, I'm no longer sure of my vote so I'm going to waffle: Unlynch wildcatj

Need to think some more before I re-cast my vote.

Holy feck - what you just said made no sense at all... might be the wine.... but not sure really.

According to my notes - night 4 was the night with no deaths and when a conversion could have taken place and that is when I was moved somehow to Carthak and was able to speak with Krist. So I don't know if this helps or not with whatever the heck you just said up there, but I am not drunk and cannot totally make sense of it.

 

[orca2011]

When's the deadline, again? Phone=can't search well. 🙁

Also, thanks HOH. WTF have I done to be suspicious?

I believe Sheeps actually vouched for you on Day 5 unless, I mixed you up with Abs in my notes...not that it makes you suspicious. Just putting it out there that someone trusts you.

 

[holdonhope]

No, I said TT claims to have what would be a beneficial role. I have only received one PM from her. But if her claim is true, she should be kept around. I don't know her character name only what she claims that she can do.

I din't mean that you would be lying about what you said. What I meant is that TT could be lying to you about having a beneficial role. Right now though you seem fairly trustworthy so I was going to go with what you said.

 

[wildcatj]

When I mentioned that devyn would be a wolf only if converted and you were adamant that devyn would make a bad conversion. Your arguement as to why devyn would make a bad conversion was severely lacking. I am trying to kill two birds with one stone here. If you end up being a wolf, I am going to be looking much more closely at devyn having been converted. She (devyn) also seems to be accepting some things from people much more easily than she normally would. Since devyn claims to have a role that would make her a target I am going to not lynch her. I know nothing about your role and I have no other leads/suspects at this point.

I wasn't "adamant". I said in my opinion she would be a poor choice for wolf conversion so early on because I was under the impression that leaders tend to get investigated frequently and throughout the game. This may be a "lacking" argument in your eyes, but this is something that has been brought up in previous games and I don't think it's too far fetched. I didn't insist she couldn't have been converted, I just expressed that I didn't think it was superbly likely.

 

[abbercadaver]

Also, since TT has responded and is likely/potentially a villager....unlynch TT

...but I won't RE-lynch just yet.

 

[DVMDream]

I din't mean that you would be lying about what you said. What I meant is that TT could be lying to you about having a beneficial role. Right now though you seem fairly trustworthy so I was going to go with what you said.

I agree, TT could definitely be lying.

 

[cuitlamiztli]

Given IPB's response to her post I'm inclined to think the PM was real.

And I was curious so I went back through my PMs. I found the Darking after night 2 -- in addition to the PMing the other holder thing, the description does say that Darkings make good spies and are inquisitive so maybe you'll learn something from them. Sounds like they can bring additional info to me, so I think the Darking debacle checks out.

Not saying wildcatj isn't a wolf just because it does though.

 

[holdonhope]

When's the deadline, again? Phone=can't search well. 🙁

Also, thanks HOH. WTF have I done to be suspicious?

I don't have anything to go on since I haven't had any investigative items so I was going with a hunch. In the middle of night cycles you asked DVMDream specifically what she thought was suspicious and then she was dead. The next night you asked the same thing of petpony and she wound up dead too. I had to pick someone and I had no idea who to pick. No hard feelings.

 

[DVMDream]

And I was curious so I went back through my PMs. I found the Darking after night 2 -- in addition to the PMing the other holder thing, the description does say that Darkings make good spies and are inquisitive so maybe you'll learn something from them. Sounds like they can bring additional info to me, so I think the Darking debacle checks out.

Not saying wildcatj isn't a wolf just because it does though.

Yes the darking does say that, but shouldn't both parties get the information from the darking then? That is what I would think.

 

[orca2011]

And I was curious so I went back through my PMs. I found the Darking after night 2 -- in addition to the PMing the other holder thing, the description does say that Darkings make good spies and are inquisitive so maybe you'll learn something from them. Sounds like they can bring additional info to me, so I think the Darking debacle checks out.

Not saying wildcatj isn't a wolf just because it does though.

Well that's good to know at least. Still find it a little odd that only one player with the Darking seems to have gotten in the info.

 

[Ivorypolarbear]

Official vote tally:

Abney - 3 (Emiloo, variegata, wildcat)
wildcat - 2 (DVMD, Petpony)
holdonhope - 1 (krist)
twelvetigers - 2 (Trematode, Jamrockin)
variegata - 1 (Packen)
abbercadaver - 1 (HOH)

 

[Trematode]

Unlynch TT
Lynch Abney

Might as well jump on the bandwagon.
I am going to bed shortly. Good night all.

 

[cuitlamiztli]

Yes the darking does say that, but shouldn't both parties get the information from the darking then? That is what I would think.

I really don't know*... maybe there's a randon chance of a Darking giving info to the holder, but it's rolled for each Darking separately? Or maybe I should stop theorizing.

(*and to be honest, I forgot about the you-not-receiving-it-part ... it's been a very long day)

 

[Ivorypolarbear]

Waffle. Wafflewafflewaffle. 🙄

Official vote tally:

Abney - 4 (Emiloo, variegata, wildcat, Trematode)
wildcat - 2 (DVMD, Petpony)
holdonhope - 1 (krist)
twelvetigers - 1 (Jamrockin)
variegata - 1 (Packen)
abbercadaver - 1 (HOH)

 

[devyn]

When I mentioned that devyn would be a wolf only if converted and you were adamant that devyn would make a bad conversion. Your arguement as to why devyn would make a bad conversion was severely lacking. I am trying to kill two birds with one stone here. If you end up being a wolf, I am going to be looking much more closely at devyn having been converted. She (devyn) also seems to be accepting some things from people much more easily than she normally would. Since devyn claims to have a role that would make her a target I am going to not lynch her. I know nothing about your role and I have no other leads/suspects at this point.

What am I accepting of more easily then normal? I think at the beginning of this game when I was so easily fooled by a wolf into lynching someone who had attacked me with an item - it jarred me a bit. I felt bad for starting a lynch on a villager as I have yet to do that in all of my WW games TBH. So in this game I am a bit more hesitant then usual as I felt so sure about that lynch in the way she was acting, everything, and I was wrong. I had pretty good instincts I felt in past games. So it was a bit of a swift kick to the alcohol.

I am definitely a villager and my role is extremely valuable to the villagers. I fear saying that much makes me wolf bait.

 

[Sheepdogpsu]

Are you people really going to lynch abney?!

 

[cuitlamiztli]

Holy feck - what you just said made no sense at all... might be the wine.... but not sure really.

It's probably just me... I won't try to make it make sense 😛

 

[PetPony]

So Devyn, what exactly happened when she sicced that thing at you? Did we ever figure that out?

 

[devyn]

Are you people really going to lynch abney?!

👍 I am inclined to agree on this one right now since Sheeps said he used an investigative item and no one has come forward to say that they had it instead

 

[devyn]

So Devyn, what exactly happened when she sicced that thing at you? Did we ever figure that out?

What do you mean? Sorry not sure I understand the question Can you re-phrase?

 

[Emiloo4]

Are you people really going to lynch abney?!

I'm so F-ing confused. Nice jobs wolves
Unlych Abney for now

 

[Emiloo4]

👍 I am inclined to agree on this one right now since Sheeps said he used an investigative item and no one has come forward to say that they had it instead

What item was it again? The head feather thing?

 

[PetPony]

What do you mean? Sorry not sure I understand the question Can you re-phrase?

Wasn't that you where someone sicced the Stormwing (?) at? Maybe I don't remember right. Maybe it was someone else?

 

[Ivorypolarbear]

Official vote tally:

Abney - 3 (variegata, wildcat, Trematode)
wildcat - 2 (DVMD, Petpony)
holdonhope - 1 (krist)
twelvetigers - 1 (Jamrockin)
variegata - 1 (Packen)
abbercadaver - 1 (HOH)

 

[DVMDream]

Wasn't that you where someone sicced the Stormwing (?) at? Maybe I don't remember right. Maybe it was someone else?

Supposedly someone saw snowy siccing a stormwing on devyn. I think this was night 2 IIRC.

 

[devyn]

What item was it again? The head feather thing?

had to go back and find it "griffin feather headband"

Wasn't that you where someone sicced the Stormwing (?) at? Maybe I don't remember right. Maybe it was someone else?

Yes Snowy sicced the Stormwing on me.

 

[Sheepdogpsu]

What item was it again? The head feather thing?

the griffin feather headband, it allows you to see through peoples delusions to see their true form or something like that.

 

[Emiloo4]

had to go back and find it "griffin feather headband"

I guess I could have done that too... thanks!
Just call me Ahmad

 

[Trematode]

Supposedly someone saw snowy siccing a stormwing on devyn. I think this was night 2 IIRC.

I know that wildcatj had the stormwing on night 2.

 

[DVMDream]

What am I accepting of more easily then normal? I think at the beginning of this game when I was so easily fooled by a wolf into lynching someone who had attacked me with an item - it jarred me a bit. I felt bad for starting a lynch on a villager as I have yet to do that in all of my WW games TBH. So in this game I am a bit more hesitant then usual as I felt so sure about that lynch in the way she was acting, everything, and I was wrong. I had pretty good instincts I felt in past games. So it was a bit of a swift kick to the alcohol.

I am definitely a villager and my role is extremely valuable to the villagers. I fear saying that much makes me wolf bait.

Wildcat posting what her PM through the darking said. You basically said ok I guess that is possible and didn't think twice about it.

Sheeps saying that abney was clear, did not question it especially when there was really nothing to back it up until now.

It is just not like you to agree with people so quickly like that.

 

[holdonhope]

I guess I could have done that too... thanks!
Just call me Ahmad

No. We'd only call you that after you made one thread asking what it was, another asking what it did, a third asking again what it was and calling us jerks, and a final one to see who's had it.

 

[orca2011]

I know that wildcatj had the stormwing on night 2.

Well then Dyachei definitely lied (I think that was the source, right?) cause I had snow down as having it that night based on what was going on.

 

[Emiloo4]

No. We'd only call you that after you made one thread asking what it was, another asking what it did, a third asking again what it was and calling us jerks, and a final one to see who's had it.

👍

 

[orca2011]

Well then Dyachei definitely lied (I think that was the source, right?) cause I had snow down as having it that night based on what was going on.

snowy*

 

[orca2011]

Orrr, Dyachei deflected it onto Snowy when it was actually Wildcat who did it, which would mean Dyachei and Wildcat were working together possibly.

 

[wildcatj]

I know that wildcatj had the stormwing on night 2.

I actually got it after night 2 and had it until night 4. I did not use it while I had it.

 

[orca2011]

I actually got it after night 2 and had it until night 4. I did not use it while I had it.

And never mind then.

 

[cuitlamiztli]

Orrr, Dyachei deflected it onto Snowy when it was actually Wildcat who did it, which would mean Dyachei and Wildcat were working together possibly.

Definitely possible. Did we ever establish who devyn's source was, though? I didn't think we did but could have missed something.

 

[orca2011]

Definitely possible. Did we ever establish who devyn's source was, though? I didn't think we did but could have missed something.

I thought she said it was Dyachei with the mirror but it's possible I'm mixing up events.

 

[DVMDream]

It was definitely Night 2 that devyn was told snowy used the stormwing on her. That was told via dyachei, who was a wolf. So if wildcat had the stormwing on Night 2 and not Snowy (I would think snowy would have mentioned that but she was a noob) then I would say the dyachei and wildcat were working together.

 

[wildcatj]

It was definitely Night 2 that devyn was told snowy used the stormwing on her. That was told via dyachei, who was a wolf. So if wildcat had the stormwing on Night 2 and not Snowy (I would think snowy would have mentioned that but she was a noob) then I would say the dyachei and wildcat were working together.

Again, I did not get the stormwing until after night 2

 

[DVMDream]

Again, I did not get the stormwing until after night 2

I was typing that up as you responded.

That means either Trem incorrectly identified when you had stormwing (mistake possibly) or someone is lying.

 

[abbercadaver]

Are you people really going to lynch abney?!

Sheepie, who're you voting for, then? I'd love more info on ANY possible wolf. 🙁

 

[orca2011]

I was typing that up as you responded.

That means either Trem incorrectly identified when you had stormwing (mistake possibly) or someone is lying.

FWIW, I'm inclined to trust Trem. Not 100% sure about her but from out interactions I don't really think she would make something up. It's possible she has her nights mixed up but I dunno.

 

[orca2011]

FWIW, I'm inclined to trust Trem. Not 100% sure about her but from out interactions I don't really think she would make something up. It's possible she has her nights mixed up but I dunno.

our*

 

[Emiloo4]

FWIW, I'm inclined to trust Trem. Not 100% sure about her but from out interactions I don't really think she would make something up. It's possible she has her nights mixed up but I dunno.

I'm inclined to trust her to for something she did for me (whether intentional or not), but I won't call her out on it. 🙂

 

[DVMDream]

FWIW, I'm inclined to trust Trem. Not 100% sure about her but from out interactions I don't really think she would make something up. It's possible she has her nights mixed up but I dunno.

I was more going with her having her nights mixed up but only she can confirm if that is the case.

 

[Emiloo4]

too*

 

[orca2011]

I was more going with her having her nights mixed up but only she can confirm if that is the case.

It's definitely possible. I don't know if she'll come back and confirm anything. I think she usually goes to bed around this time.

 

[devyn]

You guys talk fast - leave to go to the other area for a few - come back tons more stuff!

Wildcat posting what her PM through the darking said. You basically said ok I guess that is possible and didn't think twice about it.

Sheeps saying that abney was clear, did not question it especially when there was really nothing to back it up until now.

It is just not like you to agree with people so quickly like that.

Wildcat posted word for word what the PM said from the mods, so yeah I am inclined to believe it is probably a real PM. Didn't really cross my mind that she could be making it up for some reason. Sheeps had had the investigative item in the past so I assumed that he had it and investigated abney. It is stupid in my opinion to say someone is clear if you can't back it up. To say you trust someone is different, but to say someone has been cleared well then that is a whole different ball of wax.

Definitely possible. Did we ever establish who devyn's source was, though? I didn't think we did but could have missed something.

Yes I said Dyachei was my source. She told me she had the mirror that night and was going to investigate me thinking it would reveal my role, so then she could trust me according to her. Instead she said it told her who attacked me which was Stormy.