University of Arizona c/o 2024?

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I agree insofar as we’re concerned with teaching professional ethics. What I was referring to are scenarios that test one’s ability to reason through an ethical dilemma in which no outcome is ideal - these are fairly typical for MMI and I expected to see something of the sort here. Having taught Environmental Ethics courses as both an adjunct faculty member and a graduate TA I can say that even within western academic traditions there are contrasting schools of thought about what constitutes an ethical judgement and the means by which one reaches that conclusion. I’m curious to see whether professional ethics taught in vet med programs derive primarily from deontological or utilitarian perspectives. I presume the latter.

I think we saw a variation of the schools mission statements in each room. Much of it was empathy based which can’t be “taught”. I mean it can be faked, but if you have a series of empathy questions how consistent can you be without having it? I also think the entire experience was somewhat of an interview. We started out in small groups...did we converse? Did we perform well in the group dynamic? Did we break off easily? This is going to be a tbl teaching school can we be in a team? Just my thoughts. I’m curious to see if people were accepted that didn’t go on the tours or show for lunch with the faculty.


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I think we saw a variation of the schools mission statements in each room. Much of it was empathy based which can’t be “taught”. I mean it can be faked, but if you have a series of empathy questions how consistent can you be without having it? I also think the entire experience was somewhat of an interview. We started out in small groups...did we converse? Did we perform well in the group dynamic? Did we break off easily? This is going to be a tbl teaching school can we be in a team? Just my thoughts. I’m curious to see if people were accepted that didn’t go on the tours or show for lunch with the faculty.


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The tours and lunch were not mandatory. The score is based off the interview. If it's not mandatory then it wouldn't be fair to hold it against students for not going. I feel like these events mainly served as a chance for the candidates to see if the school would be a good fit for them.

I guess we will know for sure soon!

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The tours and lunch were not mandatory. The score is based off the interview. If it's not mandatory then it wouldn't be fair to hold it against students for not going. I feel like these events mainly served as a chance for the candidates to see if the school would be a good fit for them.

I guess we will know for sure soon!

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It is true that not all aspects of the weekend were mandatory but they explicitly said that admissibility would be based “largely off of interviews and conduct throughout the weekend.” It’s not necessarily true that an optional portion of the experience can’t or shouldn’t factor into their decisions. I doubt an otherwise well-qualified candidate would be dismissed outright due to absence from one or more of the optional events, but I do think it is part of their evaluative process.
 
It is true that not all aspects of the weekend were mandatory but they explicitly said that admissibility would be based “largely off of interviews and conduct throughout the weekend.” It’s not necessarily true that an optional portion of the experience can’t or shouldn’t factor into their decisions. I doubt an otherwise well-qualified candidate would be dismissed outright due to absence from one or more of the optional events, but I do think it is part of their evaluative process.
I hope that doesn't hurt me. I left after my interview. I asked two different falculty members before I did. They said it would not change the decision if I had to do so. I would have stayed if they answered differently.

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I hope that doesn't hurt me. I left after my interview. I asked two different falculty members before I did. They said it would not change the decision if I had to do so. I would have stayed if they answered differently.

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I’d say that since you communicated with them clearly and in advance that it likely won’t be an issue. I wasn’t trying to scare anyone or suggest that not attending an optional event was detrimental to their chances - I was just pointing out that just because something isn’t mandatory doesn’t mean that it won’t or shouldn’t factor in to their decision to some degree, however minute that might be. I wouldn’t fret if I were you. If you’re a qualified candidate and you felt you performed strongly in interviews then you’re just as competitive as anyone else.
 
I hope that doesn't hurt me. I left after my interview. I asked two different falculty members before I did. They said it would not change the decision if I had to do so. I would have stayed if they answered differently.

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I unfortunately had to miss the tour as well. But based on the information I gathered, I am confident that decisions are mainly based off the actual interview portion. I honestly wouldn’t worry because if this is a school that would call one portion of the process “optional (even if it was highly encouraged)” and then use that to count against the students that couldn’t make it, that would indicate major miscommunication on their part. Remember that people were there from all walks of life, and the only way they can evaluate with equality is from the interview portion.
 
I would think that poor conduct at optional events might have an impact on your application but absence would not. For example, if an applicant became extremely rude to a tour guide or insulted some faculty during a lunch I could see that negatively impacting their application, but for the most part the main interview should be what most decisions come from.

Disclaimer: am in no way affiliated with any vet school but just speaking from my own experiences
 
I would think that poor conduct at optional events might have an impact on your application but absence would not. For example, if an applicant became extremely rude to a tour guide or insulted some faculty during a lunch I could see that negatively impacting their application, but for the most part the main interview should be what most decisions come from.

Disclaimer: am in no way affiliated with any vet school but just speaking from my own experiences
Yes, absolutely agree!
 
I would think that poor conduct at optional events might have an impact on your application but absence would not. For example, if an applicant became extremely rude to a tour guide or insulted some faculty during a lunch I could see that negatively impacting their application, but for the most part the main interview should be what most decisions come from.

Disclaimer: am in no way affiliated with any vet school but just speaking from my own experiences

From the wording of the interview email, *that* is what is considered, not whether or not we attended all the optional events or not. Not everyone could be expected to go to everything, and if it was a part of their decision, then it would have been mandatory


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I would think that poor conduct at optional events might have an impact on your application but absence would not. For example, if an applicant became extremely rude to a tour guide or insulted some faculty during a lunch I could see that negatively impacting their application, but for the most part the main interview should be what most decisions come from.

Disclaimer: am in no way affiliated with any vet school but just speaking from my own experiences

I was just going to say something along these lines. I give tours and spend time with applicants during events at a different school, so grain of salt that it could be different, but:

Not being present would not count against you here in any way. Being present at the events may get you noticed in a good way, but it wouldn't be added to your interview performance. Your interview score is based solely on what you do during the interviews.

However, being noticed in a bad way during the interview weekend could absolutely tank your chances. If you do something that is a huge red flag during the optional events, that feedback would definitely make it back to the admissions team.

Being rude +/- hurting your chances depending on what you said. Doing something egregious (flagrantly disobeying safety rules on the hospital tour, showing up sloppy drunk or something, etc) would absolutely get back to the head of admissions and could tank your application.

Honestly unless you did something crazy during an optional event, I wouldn't stress about tours, lunches, etc.

(And, emphasizing one more time that this is true at the school I go to, so no guarantees for UofA. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar.)


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Anyone else notice that the portal has changed?
 
Anyone else notice that the portal has changed?

How so? I havent tried to sign in since applying

Update: i see what you mean

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How so? I havent tried to sign in since applying


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It's nothing crazy. Just that some of the tabs are missing. For example, the MMI information tab is gone along with the registration tab. I spoke with one of the admissions girls there and she said they weren't sure yet if they were going to let decisions out via the portal or not. I'm just super anxious.
 
It's nothing crazy. Just that some of the tabs are missing. For example, the MMI information tab is gone along with the registration tab. I spoke with one of the admissions girls there and she said they weren't sure yet if they were going to let decisions out via the portal or not. I'm just super anxious.
I've noticed this too. Maybe it's because they're updating the student portal since the MMIs are over. I'm also super anxious! Though, I'm not sure how I feel...

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I've noticed this too. Maybe it's because they're updating the student portal since the MMIs are over. I'm also super anxious! Though, I'm not sure how I feel...

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Exactly!! I’m just getting so anxious. I’ve been a ball of stress since the interview weekend.
 
Same work has been insane this week so it has kept me occupied until I am home googling Apartments, looking at SDN or APVMA, and what life is like in Tucson in general


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Lets hope nothing gets in the way that would delay the decisions 🙁 My other school that I am waiting to hear back from had to turn all their classes online starting today and now we’re not even sure when we’ll hear back from them as they probably have a lot more on their plates.

hoping to hear back soon from Arizona!
 
Same work has been insane this week so it has kept me occupied until I am home googling Apartments, looking at SDN or APVMA, and what life is like in Tucson in general


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I've been doing the same thing!! But I'm worried I'm jinxing myself...
 
Lets hope nothing gets in the way that would delay the decisions 🙁 My other school that I am waiting to hear back from had to turn all their classes online starting today and now we’re not even sure when we’ll hear back from them as they probably have a lot more on their plates.

hoping to hear back soon from Arizona!

Ya its going to be a logistical nightmare. My undergrad is getting close to putting everything online, too. I'm just so worried about all the 3rd and 4th years worrying about how theyre going to continue their clinicals.
 
I've been doing the same thing!! But I'm worried I'm jinxing myself...

Yeah thats the hardest part... i think i found where i would rent from if I go but its hard to say if they will be available by the time July rolls around im hopeful, but trying not to get my hopes up too much

As far as schools closing seems alittle pre mature since there not a ton of cases in the US yet. I feel like everyone is panicking too soon.


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Yeah thats the hardest part... i think i found where i would rent from if I go but its hard to say if they will be available by the time July rolls around im hopeful, but trying not to get my hopes up too much

As far as schools closing seems alittle pre mature since there not a ton of cases in the US yet. I feel like everyone is panicking too soon.


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As scientists, we have a headspace of “alert, not anxious.” Most of the laymen just go straight to panick.
 
By the same token, as a microbiologist, I am hyper-aware of all the little disease causers. Nothing has changed for me but it's nice to see people taking hand washing so seriously. This might inadvertently reduce the spread of other types of disease. Many of my classmates have speculated that universities are switching to online just to cover themselves legally more than anything else.

Btw, my portal looks the exact same. anyone else?

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At this point, I’m just not planning on hearing anything until next week at the earliest.

By the same token, as a microbiologist, I am hyper-aware of all the little disease causers. Nothing has changed for me but it's nice to see people taking hand washing so seriously. This might inadvertently reduce the spread of other types of disease. Many of my classmates have speculated that universities are switching to online just to cover themselves legally more than anything else.

Btw, my portal looks the exact same. anyone else?

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I wouldn't put much stock in your portal looking different than others. There was a point for our Iowa portals where everyones cumulative GPA's disappeared at different rates and it didn't mean anything.
 
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We hope anyway! That language about initial offers starting around March 15 sounds good until they also say that offers could trickle into May before all the seats are filled. Here’s to hoping for sooner rather than later!

They said May because it’s based on whether those initially accepted will accept the offer. That’s the same for all vet schools
 
We hope anyway! That language about initial offers starting around March 15 sounds good until they also say that offers could trickle into May before all the seats are filled. Here’s to hoping for sooner rather than later!

I think some of us will hear next week, however odds are some more of us could hear in May accept 110, waitlist the others, accept whoever from the waitlist they feel qualifies, then accept some more

Edit... i dont know why i am horrible at typing


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The portal has a little update saying that decisions will start coming out third week of March!

Stupid question- what portal? The only thing I see is the personalized page thing. How do you get to the portal if that’s something different? I looked on my personalized page and didn’t see anything. Maybe I’m not looking in the right place


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Stupid question- what portal? The only thing I see is the personalized page thing. How do you get to the portal if that’s something different? I looked on my personalized page and didn’t see anything. Maybe I’m not looking in the right place


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I have nothing and neither do 2 other students I have made friends with on interview day. I still just have the “thanks for opting into texting” banner and that’s about it.


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Stupid question- what portal? The only thing I see is the personalized page thing. How do you get to the portal if that’s something different? I looked on my personalized page and didn’t see anything. Maybe I’m not looking in the right place


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Yes, its the link/personalized page that they shared before with you in the previous emails and where you registered for the MMI initially. For me, its right on the homepage so I didn’t have to click anything else. But as others are saying, it sounds like those links haven’t updated for everyone at the same time.
 
I have nothing and neither does 2 other students I have made friends with on interview day. I still just have the “thanks for opting into texting” banner and that’s about it.


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I wouldn't worry too much! It seems like they're just updating everyone's portal/personalized page. It could be everyone's didn't update all at once. It's basically thanking you for participating in the MMI and reminding you to file the FAFSA for the 2020-2021 aid year for U of A just in case you get accepted!

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I wouldn't worry too much! It seems like they're just updating everyone's portal/personalized page. It could be everyone's didn't update all at once. It's basically thanking you for participating in the MMI and reminding you to file the FAFSA for the 2020-2021 aid year for U of A just in case you get accepted!

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Mine still looks the same and I already added them to my FAFSA before the interview just in case. I hope it means nothing!


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Mine still looks the same and I already added them to my FAFSA before the interview just in case. I hope it means nothing!


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I’m in the same boat. Don’t worry!


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I really wonder why some portals are updated and some aren't. Mine personally isn't; and I hope that it isn't correlated w/ decisions. 🤔
 
I really wonder why some portals are updated and some aren't. Mine personally isn't; and I hope that it isn't correlated w/ decisions. 🤔
I wouldn't think too far into it! Someone earlier in the thread said they may not even be making decisions on the portal. Don't quote me on that, though. I think a lot of us don't know what's set-in-stone, and the best thing to do is relax (even though it's hard to...) and wait!

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Same. This wait is killing me! I am in the Ross Vet Prep program and we were sent home over the weekend. I really want to know if I need to plan another flight or if I get to stay home in Arizona!
 
I see there's a "COVID-19" tab now. I wonder if the pandemic will hinder decisions coming out.

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I see there's a "COVID-19" tab now. I wonder if the pandemic will hinder decisions coming out.

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I dont think so just because they dont have students yet, and decisions are sent out via email. Hopefully that all stays the same as for “social distancing”...

I would think they will inform us if they expect a delay though. I bet they understand that we are all impatiently waiting


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I dont think so just because they dont have students yet, and decisions are sent out via email. Hopefully that all stays the same as for “social distancing”...

I would think they will inform us if they expect a delay though. I bet they understand that we are all impatiently waiting


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Also i will add. While im not at work im losing my mind so if anyone wants to just chat or whatever im cool with that


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I dont think so just because they dont have students yet, and decisions are sent out via email. Hopefully that all stays the same as for “social distancing”...

I would think they will inform us if they expect a delay though. I bet they understand that we are all impatiently waiting


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Those were my thoughts too. Just with everything shutting down, I didn't know if that would impact them.

I'm starting to get antsy, but I know I gotta chill!

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We have an “admission information” tab now too and a FAFSA message. It’s getting close guys!!


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We have an “admission information” tab now too and a FAFSA message. It’s getting close guys!!


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I see the FAFSA message, but not the "admission information" tab. Guess I just have to wait!

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Just saw this message pop up on the portal indicating that decisions can be delayed...
 

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