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[IDontKnow789]

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Hi everyone, so basically I am a junior at a medium size private research university in the northeast. I have a really difficult decision to make and I need to make it soon and I was hoping I could get some advice from all of you.

So basically I am currently a nursing student (I just transferred last semester from psychology). I know that that already puts me in a very poor place for wanting to pursue medicine, but up until last year I really wasn't sure which path I wanted to take at any rate. This semester in nursing has really showed me that nursing is not what I ultimately want and that instead I really do believe I would much rather pursue medicine. I have shadowed nurses and doctors, and I have been volunteering in a local hospital as a patient transporter.

If I switch back to psychology next semester I will be able to graduate on time. The issue is that I only have one of the pre-req's done (Bio 2). I have taken a couple other science classes (A&P 1 and 2, stats, nutrition, human development) and so my overall science GPA is 3.62 as of now. My cGPA is currently 3.58. I figure that I will be able to take Bio 1 next semester, and chem 1 and 2 over this summer. I'm really not sure if I should try to squeeze in as many of them as possible or if I should just wait and then do a post-bacc program.

Essentially I'm wondering if you all think I still have time, and what I should do about the post-bacc situation. Also, because of costs and financial situations I sometimes feel that nursing school would be more "safe" which is why I am hesitant to switch back. If I do switch back to psych and then end up not getting into medical school I will be essentially SOL because I am not even interested in psychology and wouldn't be employable with that degree alone. But I also believe that I would feel so unfulfilled as a nurse, and probably hate my job... I am just so confused and feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, someone please give me advice!

 

[delawarepremed]

It seems like you would much rather be a physician than a nurse. So, there is no point in going further into a career (nursing) that you will hate anyway. Switch back to your previous major so that you will be on track to graduate on time , finish the standard medical school prerequisites plus Biochemistry and Sociology with the highest possible grades that you can get, aim for a 510 or higher on the MCAT, get some decent ECs like shadowing, volunteering, scribe etc., apply early and broadly for whichever cycle you are ready, and there is no reason why you should not get into a DO school.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

It seems like you would much rather be a physician than a nurse. So, there is no point in going further into a career (nursing) that you will hate anyway. Switch back to your previous major so that you will be on track to graduate on time , finish the standard medical school prerequisites plus Biochemistry and Sociology with the highest possible grades that you can get, aim for a 510 or higher on the MCAT, get some decent ECs like shadowing, volunteering, scribe etc., apply early and broadly for whichever cycle you are ready, and there is no reason why you should not get into a DO school.

We are in the osteopathic sub-forum, a 510 is well above the average MCAT for D.O. schools. To be honest I am not sure if I fully understand what you mean by "nursing student," have you been accepted into an actual BSN program that you are currently working towards? Or are you saying you just switched your major from psychology to nursing. It doesn't seem logical to talk about nursing in terms of just "switching" back and forth. IF you are in an actual BSN program I think it would be foolish to drop out right now. If anything, you will gain valuable experience and good money at that. If I were in your shoes (assuming you are in the actual BSN program), I would keep it up and graduate with my BSN, get a job as a nurse and tough it out while your work towards medical school. Like you said, you have financial contraints. You can have a nice degree in the medical field, fix your financial issues, and go to medical school OR you can rush it, switch back to a useless major, keep your financial contraints, and risk not getting into medical school and having nothing to fall back on.

For the record your GPA is above average for many D.O. schools, you could get by with a 500+, but for risky reasons I would aim for a 503+.

 

[Seth Joo]

Hi everyone, so basically I am a junior at a medium size private research university in the northeast. I have a really difficult decision to make and I need to make it soon and I was hoping I could get some advice from all of you.

So basically I am currently a nursing student (I just transferred last semester from psychology). I know that that already puts me in a very poor place for wanting to pursue medicine, but up until last year I really wasn't sure which path I wanted to take at any rate. This semester in nursing has really showed me that nursing is not what I ultimately want and that instead I really do believe I would much rather pursue medicine. I have shadowed nurses and doctors, and I have been volunteering in a local hospital as a patient transporter.

If I switch back to psychology next semester I will be able to graduate on time. The issue is that I only have one of the pre-req's done (Bio 2). I have taken a couple other science classes (A&P 1 and 2, stats, nutrition, human development) and so my overall science GPA is 3.62 as of now. My cGPA is currently 3.58. I figure that I will be able to take Bio 1 next semester, and chem 1 and 2 over this summer. I'm really not sure if I should try to squeeze in as many of them as possible or if I should just wait and then do a post-bacc program.

Essentially I'm wondering if you all think I still have time, and what I should do about the post-bacc situation. Also, because of costs and financial situations I sometimes feel that nursing school would be more "safe" which is why I am hesitant to switch back. If I do switch back to psych and then end up not getting into medical school I will be essentially SOL because I am not even interested in psychology and wouldn't be employable with that degree alone. But I also believe that I would feel so unfulfilled as a nurse, and probably hate my job... I am just so confused and feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, someone please give me advice!

Your GPA is fine, depending upon your MCAT you would be good for MD schools or DO schools, if you score well on the MCAT, like 520 or better aim for MD, otherwise DO is fine.

 

[IDontKnow789]

We are in the osteopathic sub-forum, a 510 is well above the average MCAT for D.O. schools. To be honest I am not sure if I fully understand what you mean by "nursing student," have you been accepted into an actual BSN program that you are currently working towards? Or are you saying you just switched your major from psychology to nursing. It doesn't seem logical to talk about nursing in terms of just "switching" back and forth. IF you are in an actual BSN program I think it would be foolish to drop out right now. If anything, you will gain valuable experience and good money at that. If I were in your shoes (assuming you are in the actual BSN program), I would keep it up and graduate with my BSN, get a job as a nurse and tough it out while your work towards medical school. Like you said, you have financial contraints. You can have a nice degree in the medical field, fix your financial issues, and go to medical school OR you can rush it, switch back to a useless major, keep your financial contraints, and risk not getting into medical school and having nothing to fall back on.

For the record your GPA is above average for many D.O. schools, you could get by with a 500+, but for risky reasons I would aim for a 503+.

Yes I am currently in a bsn program that I just started this semester. If I stay in the bsn program I won't graduate on time either so there is potential financial issues with either option I choose. As I said I have been shadowing nurses and volunteering at a local hospital this semester and I prefer the role doctors play over nursing. Given that, I feel like it's probably not a great idea for me to continue in nursing, especially because no patient wants a nurse who would rather be a doctor.

 

[IDontKnow789]

Thanks so much for all your encouraging replies!

Although I was also wondering what you all thought about doing a post bacc program vs. finishing what pre-reqs I can in undergraduate and then just doing the rest at a state school through continuing studies? (In the context of me switching back to psych and trying to pursue medicine directly)

 

[delawarepremed]

Thanks so much for all your encouraging replies!

Although I was also wondering what you all thought about doing a post bacc program vs. finishing what pre-reqs I can in undergraduate and then just doing the rest at a state school through continuing studies? (In the context of me switching back to psych and trying to pursue medicine directly)

If I were you, I would drop the nursing major as soon as possible and get back on track to graduate with the psych degree. Nursing majors have to take a lot of extremely difficult non-prerequisite science courses that could potentially ruin your science GPA. Don't make your journey harder and more stressful than you have to. You have to optimize your time and energy to get into medical school. Take the prerequisites at a school where the professors are reasonable. When scheduling classes, especially prerequisites, use ratemyprofessors. Try your best to get professors who consistently have good ratings for the courses you need to take.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Yes I am currently in a bsn program that I just started this semester. If I stay in the bsn program I won't graduate on time either so there is potential financial issues with either option I choose. As I said I have been shadowing nurses and volunteering at a local hospital this semester and I prefer the role doctors play over nursing. Given that, I feel like it's probably not a great idea for me to continue in nursing, especially because no patient wants a nurse who would rather be a doctor.

I am just trying to give you some ideas for a reasonable and successful avenue towards medical school. However, this idea of graduating "on-time" is really something you should get out of your head. The average age of matriculating medical students last year was 25, which is way past the normal graduate age for a normal bachelors student. You need to be smart about the decisions you make. What if you never get into medical school? I would rather have that nursing job that starts out at $25+ an hours to fall back on as opposed to your unhirable degree in psychology. While it is ultimately your decision to make, I personally think you should finish the BSN program. I think it would look better and give the ADCOMs a better idea of who you are and that you won't just drop medical school.

 

[IDontKnow789]

I am just trying to give you some ideas for a reasonable and successful avenue towards medical school. However, this idea of graduating "on-time" is really something you should get out of your head. The average age of matriculating medical students last year was 25, which is way past the normal graduate age for a normal bachelors student. You need to be smart about the decisions you make. What if you never get into medical school? I would rather have that nursing job that starts out at $25+ an hours to fall back on as opposed to your unhirable degree in psychology. While it is ultimately your decision to make, I personally think you should finish the BSN program. I think it would look better and give the ADCOMs a better idea of who you are and that you won't just drop medical school.

I do agree with most of what you are saying which is what makes it such a difficult choice for me. The big thing about doing that is just my fear of being a terrible nurse because of not liking it- patients don't deserve that. Also the potential of becoming stuck in that career because of greater responsibilities and less time and ability to even take the necessary courses to apply for medical school. So, once again I really appreciate your feedback and I will take it into consideration. Just a lot to think about.

 

[delawarepremed]

I am just trying to give you some ideas for a reasonable and successful avenue towards medical school. However, this idea of graduating "on-time" is really something you should get out of your head. The average age of matriculating medical students last year was 25, which is way past the normal graduate age for a normal bachelors student. You need to be smart about the decisions you make. What if you never get into medical school? I would rather have that nursing job that starts out at $25+ an hours to fall back on as opposed to your unhirable degree in psychology. While it is ultimately your decision to make, I personally think you should finish the BSN program. I think it would look better and give the ADCOMs a better idea of who you are and that you won't just drop medical school.

OP has clearly stated "nursing is not what I ultimately want". Therefore, he/she should drop nursing. Too many people in our society are stuck in jobs that they hate. I hope that does not happen with OP.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

OP has clearly stated "nursing is not what I ultimately want". Therefore, he/she should drop nursing. Too many people in our society are stuck in jobs that they hate. I hope that does not happen with OP.

So, just because it is not "ultimately what he wants," he should drop the only thing he has going for him right now? He and I both know a psychology degree will get you knowhere of value, but a BSN would get you a very well paying job and an opportunity to gain healthcare experience while taking pre-requiristes and working side-by-side with physicians. You know, it doesn't really look too pleasing to graduate programs when they see that a person started a graduate degree and dropped it partially way through. There is absolutely no incentive to rush your degree just to start this long process of taking the pre-requisites, MCAT, and applying to medical school. However, you have every incentive in the world to help people, earn money, gain healthcare experience, and finish your pre-requisites for medical school. For right now he may not like the idea of nursing, but if nursing is so bad that you can't stand to work in the nursing field then maybe medicine isn't the right avenue.

 

[delawarepremed]

So, just because it is not "ultimately what he wants," he should drop the only thing he has going for him right now? He and I both know a psychology degree will get you knowhere of value, but a BSN would get you a very well paying job and an opportunity to gain healthcare experience while taking pre-requiristes and working side-by-side with physicians. You know, it doesn't really look too pleasing to graduate programs when they see that a person started a graduate degree and dropped it partially way through. There is absolutely no incentive to rush your degree just to start this long process of taking the pre-requisites, MCAT, and applying to medical school. However, you have every incentive in the world to help people, earn money, gain healthcare experience, and finish your pre-requisites for medical school. For right now he may not like the idea of nursing, but if nursing is so bad that you can't stand to work in the nursing field then maybe medicine isn't the right avenue.

Nursing and medicine are two different professions. Therefore, lack of interest in nursing should NOT be used to gauge interest in medicine. It is best to pick one path and focus on attaining it. In OP's situation, nursing is a bachelor's degree and NOT a graduate degree. Changing major is fine, especially if OP can fall back on nursing later as a backup. Also, OP's time would be better spent studying for the MCAT rather than taking nursing courses that adcoms don't care about and could seriously harm OP's GPA if he/she does not do well in those courses due to lack of interest in nursing. And a good MCAT score like 510 even with a psych degree will open a lot more doors for OP. Also, don't forget that Psychology is a huge part of the current MCAT.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Nursing and medicine are two different professions. Therefore, lack of interest in nursing should NOT be used to gauge interest in medicine. It is best to pick one path and focus on attaining it. In OP's situation, nursing is a bachelor's degree and NOT a graduate degree. Changing major is fine, especially if OP can fall back on nursing later as a backup. Also, OP's time would be better spent studying for the MCAT rather than taking nursing courses that adcoms don't care about and could seriously harm OP's GPA if he/she does not do well in those courses due to lack of interest in nursing. And a good MCAT score like 510 even with a psych degree will open a lot more doors for OP. Also, don't forget that Psychology is a huge part of the current MCAT.

*sigh* You really are not getting it. Nursing and medicine are one in the same..nurses and PHYSICIANS ae not. I was never implying "medicine" to be used in placed os "physician," contrarty to most pre-meds' beliefs nursing is a huge part of medicine and would be very useful in gaining experience in patients care and medicine. No one said he/she should used it to gauge their interest in wanting to become a physician since the OP clearly stated that is what they wanted to do. Also, it should be said that I was not directly referring the BSN program as a "graduate" program, I was making a comparison to the such that schools would probably look down upone someone who started a PROGRAM and dropped it partial way through. If you think that you can quit a BSN program and pick it back up later for some reason, then I say good luck with that. It seems to me that you are TELLING him/her what they should be doing, I am simply providing my opinion on the matter. I have been around these forums for well over 7 years, I am a non-traditional student with many years working in the nursing field, and I have asked many of these same questions in person and have gained valuable insight towards what it is ADCOMs like and don't like. I am not saying I have all of the answers, but what I will say is that the information you are providing should be taken with a grain of salt. With no disrespect it seems as if you are replying to this scenario with the tyical pre-med SDN response. Lastly, as one who is familiar with the rigors of nursing school, those who are not so educated on the curriculum should realize that if you have trouble with nursing classes then you should not be going to medical school. Even if there is a lack of interest to become a nurse, the classes they take are very important in the realm of medicine.

P.S. I majored in Biology and scored very high in psychology/sociology, it is not hard ont h MCAT..for the most part it is all inutuitive. All you need to succeed is basic psych. and sociology.


Goodnight

 

[delawarepremed]

Hi everyone, so basically I am a junior at a medium size private research university in the northeast. I have a really difficult decision to make and I need to make it soon and I was hoping I could get some advice from all of you.

So basically I am currently a nursing student (I just transferred last semester from psychology). I know that that already puts me in a very poor place for wanting to pursue medicine, but up until last year I really wasn't sure which path I wanted to take at any rate. This semester in nursing has really showed me that nursing is not what I ultimately want and that instead I really do believe I would much rather pursue medicine. I have shadowed nurses and doctors, and I have been volunteering in a local hospital as a patient transporter.

If I switch back to psychology next semester I will be able to graduate on time. The issue is that I only have one of the pre-req's done (Bio 2). I have taken a couple other science classes (A&P 1 and 2, stats, nutrition, human development) and so my overall science GPA is 3.62 as of now. My cGPA is currently 3.58. I figure that I will be able to take Bio 1 next semester, and chem 1 and 2 over this summer. I'm really not sure if I should try to squeeze in as many of them as possible or if I should just wait and then do a post-bacc program.

Essentially I'm wondering if you all think I still have time, and what I should do about the post-bacc situation. Also, because of costs and financial situations I sometimes feel that nursing school would be more "safe" which is why I am hesitant to switch back. If I do switch back to psych and then end up not getting into medical school I will be essentially SOL because I am not even interested in psychology and wouldn't be employable with that degree alone. But I also believe that I would feel so unfulfilled as a nurse, and probably hate my job... I am just so confused and feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, someone please give me advice!

Hi, I want to apologize to you because I have been giving you partially terrible advice without thinking twice about it. Please note that the intentions behind my partially terrible advice were NOT malicious. If my intentions towards you were malicious, I would NOT have spent my time and energy to write this particular post after I realized my mistake. So, last night, I accidentally bumped into an extremely useful and informative thread by an amazing person whose original post gave me a strong dose of reality check that made me realize the disservice my partially horrible advice could have done to you. I suddenly realized that I was leading you in the wrong direction and towards the mistakes that I did during my undergraduate career. I have privately messaged the link of this other thread to you. So, please take the time to read the OP's first post and what happened to the three people who were unable to get into medical school. After some deep self-introspection pertaining to my life from the time I began college to now, I have also realized that my partially horrible advice to you is a direct result of my own denial about the current depressing reality of my own life. I came to college intending to get into medical school and foolishly did not give much thought to a Plan B. So, I majored in Art History and foolishly did not think much about decent employment prospects of such a major if I didn't get into medical school. Now that I think about it, I get anxious and nervous about my future employment prospects if I don't get into med school. In hindsight, I made a huge mistake by putting all my eggs in one basket, and I am truly sorry about telling you to do the same mistake that I did, even if it was unintentional at that time. However, my advice is also partially good as well. I still stand by my humble opinion that you should drop nursing if you don't enjoy it. Going into nursing without being truly passionate about it is a disservice to yourself and the profession. Plan B should be chosen based not only on something which has decent employment prospects after you graduate but also something that you actually enjoy. Also, if your eventual goal is to get into medical school, there are much better and far less stressful ways to gain clinical experience than nursing. So, again, DO NOT go into nursing if you think that you will "feel so unfulfilled as a nurse and probably hate my job". Also, nursing classes are NOT a gauge of success in medical school. That's why there are the MCAT and the science GPA calculated from your performance in the BCP prerequisite courses, and both of these factors are used by ADCOMs to predict your future performance in medical school.

 

[IDontKnow789]

Hi, I want to apologize to you because I have been giving you partially terrible advice without thinking twice about it. Please note that the intentions behind my partially terrible advice were NOT malicious. If my intentions towards you were malicious, I would NOT have spent my time and energy to write this particular post after I realized my mistake. So, last night, I accidentally bumped into an extremely useful and informative thread by an amazing person whose original post gave me a strong dose of reality check that made me realize the disservice my partially horrible advice could have done to you. I suddenly realized that I was leading you in the wrong direction and towards the mistakes that I did during my undergraduate career. I have privately messaged the link of this other thread to you. So, please take the time to read the OP's first post and what happened to the three people who were unable to get into medical school. After some deep self-introspection pertaining to my life from the time I began college to now, I have also realized that my partially horrible advice to you is a direct result of my own denial about the current depressing reality of my own life. I came to college intending to get into medical school and foolishly did not give much thought to a Plan B. So, I majored in Art History and foolishly did not think much about decent employment prospects of such a major if I didn't get into medical school. Now that I think about it, I get anxious and nervous about my future employment prospects if I don't get into med school. In hindsight, I made a huge mistake by putting all my eggs in one basket, and I am truly sorry about telling you to do the same mistake that I did, even if it was unintentional at that time. However, my advice is also partially good as well. I still stand by my humble opinion that you should drop nursing if you don't enjoy it. Going into nursing without being truly passionate about it is a disservice to yourself and the profession. Plan B should be chosen based not only on something which has decent employment prospects after you graduate but also something that you actually enjoy. Also, if your eventual goal is to get into medical school, there are much better and far less stressful ways to gain clinical experience than nursing. So, again, DO NOT go into nursing if you think that you will "feel so unfulfilled as a nurse and probably hate my job". Also, nursing classes are NOT a gauge of success in medical school. That's why there are the MCAT and the science GPA calculated from your performance in the BCP prerequisite courses, and both of these factors are used by ADCOMs to predict your future performance in medical school.

That was a rather sudden change of heart haha. Don't worry, I do take everything said on here with a grain of salt so I didn't do anything drastic because of your advice.

Also, I never got the message for the link to that thread that you said you sent, can you try to resend it please?

 

[delawarepremed]

That was a rather sudden change of heart haha. Don't worry, I do take everything said on here with a grain of salt so I didn't do anything drastic because of your advice.

Also, I never got the message for the link to that thread that you said you sent, can you try to resend it please?

I just sent it to you. Read everything in it. If you are like me who views college as a means to an end to get a seat in med school, his advice will be your best friend.

 

[IDontKnow789]

I just sent it to you. Read everything in it. If you are like me who views college as a means to an end to get a seat in med school, his advice will be your best friend.

The only part in that I found to pertain to my situation were those mini narratives at the end of the post. Those are things I have already considered and there is always grad school if it all doesn't work out. Also, those narratives don't necessarily point their lives being ruined, I felt that was a little dramatic. They may still get into medical school, who knows.

 

[arc5005]

One thing I regret is that I wish I just studied something I was extremely interested in during undergrad. If I had known now that my end-goal was med school, I would of went to a school and majored in something like Public Health or Psychology or Foreign Language/s. None of those would lead to a good job after undergrad, but if med-school is the end-goal, then it would have been worth the 4 years of actually being interested in college.

 

[delawarepremed]

One thing I regret is that I wish I just studied something I was extremely interested in during undergrad. If I had known now that my end-goal was med school, I would of went to a school and majored in something like Public Health or Psychology or Foreign Language/s. None of those would lead to a good job after undergrad, but if med-school is the end-goal, then it would have been worth the 4 years of actually being interested in college.

What if someone doesn't get into med school? Then, after they graduate from college, they are stuck with poor employment prospects and tens of thousands of dollars in student loans.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

What if someone doesn't get into med school? Then, after they graduate from college, they are stuck with poor employment prospects and tens of thousands of dollars in student loans.

This is one thing to consider, but I believe that if you have the means and a way to go about putting your all into the future of medicine, then I think anyone can be a doctor. It may take a few tries, but I find it hard to believe if you are competent and driven that you cannot get in somehow.

 

[delawarepremed]

This is one thing to consider, but I believe that if you have the means and a way to go about putting your all into the future of medicine, then I think anyone can be a doctor. It may take a few tries, but I find it hard to believe if you are competent and driven that you cannot get in somehow.

There is something called luck that favors some and not others. I have seen it happen many times, although I won't go into detail here.

 

[arc5005]

What if someone doesn't get into med school? Then, after they graduate from college, they are stuck with poor employment prospects and tens of thousands of dollars in student loans.

Tons of backups. You can do many career paths. Many masters programs don't require you to have a degree in the same field. Get a job and work your way up the latter. Many business/marketing careers don't require a business degree... after 3-5 years experience working somewhere you can go get a MBA. MPHs take applicants from many various fields. I know people who studied foreign languages and work in business/marketing. My undergrad degree was useless, because I don't want to work in EH&S/Environmental Management, even though you can make a decent salary; I didn't want to work in the industry, and so it is useless and I didn't enjoy undergrad. Stupid for others to embark on the same path, just to work a dead-end 9-5 that you wake up hating to everyday.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

There is something called luck that favors some and not others. I have seen it happen many times, although I won't go into detail here.

No, when ADCOMs look at an application they do not factor in luck whatsoever. There may be other factors involved with why some people get in and some don't, but I can assure you there are far too many variables to be accounted for in an acceptance for "luck" to be of any significance. It is a reasonable measure to lower cognitive dissonance, though.

 

[delawarepremed]

No, when ADCOMs look at an application they do not factor in luck whatsoever. There may be other factors involved with why some people get in and some don't, but I can assure you there are far too many variables to be accounted for in an acceptance for "luck" to be of any significance. It is a reasonable measure to lower cognitive dissonance, though.

ADCOMS don't need to factor in luck. That is why it is called luck. The definition of luck is " success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions".

 

[OrdinaryDO]

ADCOMS don't need to factor in luck. That is why it is called luck. The definition of luck is " success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions".

This is a futile argument, but I could give you a reason for any example of "luck" you throw my way. Early application, better E.C.'s, better fit for mission statement, had more money for interviews and etc. on and on, but the moral is that everything that goes into the application system is a direct cause and effect of the actions taken by both the applicant and the admissions committees.

 

[delawarepremed]

This is a futile argument, but I could give you a reason for any example of "luck" you throw my way. Early application, better E.C.'s, better fit for mission statement, had more money for interviews and etc. on and on, but the moral is that everything that goes into the application system is a direct cause and effect of the actions taken by both the applicant and the admissions committees.

An applicant with a 4.0 GPA and 40 MCAT who applied very early gets waitlisted because his/her application got delayed because his/her transcripts got lost in the mail. Therefore, this is an example of bad luck because the applicant's failure to get accepted was brought by chance rather than through his/her own actions.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

An applicant with a 4.0 GPA and 40 MCAT who applied very early gets waitlisted because his/her application got delayed because his/her transcripts got lost in the mail. Therefore, this is an example of bad luck because the applicant's failure to get accepted was brought by chance rather than through his/her own actions.

I mean no disrespect when I say this, but no applicant is stupid enough to only apply at one school. No applicant with those stats should be negligent beyond a certain point because it is an unwritten rule here in the SDN community that the medical schools snag the higher stat individuals so if you are rocking a 40/4.0 then I would suspect something. Also, you get a confirmation e-mail from AACOMAS/AMCAS stating when they have been received, therefore it is your responsibility to keep track of these confirmations. The scenario you have just presented here is not a valid argument for "bad luck," it is only proof that this hypothetical figure is probably too lazy for medical school anyway.

 

[yayayaok]

*sigh* You really are not getting it. Nursing and medicine are one in the same..nurses and PHYSICIANS ae not. I was never implying "medicine" to be used in placed os "physician," contrarty to most pre-meds' beliefs nursing is a huge part of medicine and would be very useful in gaining experience in patients care and medicine. No one said he/she should used it to gauge their interest in wanting to become a physician since the OP clearly stated that is what they wanted to do. Also, it should be said that I was not directly referring the BSN program as a "graduate" program, I was making a comparison to the such that schools would probably look down upone someone who started a PROGRAM and dropped it partial way through. If you think that you can quit a BSN program and pick it back up later for some reason, then I say good luck with that. It seems to me that you are TELLING him/her what they should be doing, I am simply providing my opinion on the matter. I have been around these forums for well over 7 years, I am a non-traditional student with many years working in the nursing field, and I have asked many of these same questions in person and have gained valuable insight towards what it is ADCOMs like and don't like. I am not saying I have all of the answers, but what I will say is that the information you are providing should be taken with a grain of salt. With no disrespect it seems as if you are replying to this scenario with the tyical pre-med SDN response. Lastly, as one who is familiar with the rigors of nursing school, those who are not so educated on the curriculum should realize that if you have trouble with nursing classes then you should not be going to medical school. Even if there is a lack of interest to become a nurse, the classes they take are very important in the realm of medicine.

P.S. I majored in Biology and scored very high in psychology/sociology, it is not hard ont h MCAT..for the most part it is all inutuitive. All you need to succeed is basic psych. and sociology.


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Albeit I graduated with a BS in neuro 2 years ago... He is right. I literally watched all the khan psych social vids twice over and got a 131 on psych social. Keep in mind this was the last sectio and I was in total zombie mode. The other sections besides cars are pretty brutal though.


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[yayayaok]

This is one thing to consider, but I believe that if you have the means and a way to go about putting your all into the future of medicine, then I think anyone can be a doctor. It may take a few tries, but I find it hard to believe if you are competent and driven that you cannot get in somehow.

Let me tell you guys a story. I started college as a division 1 athlete with absolutely no academic plans. I ruined my GPA taking pointless art classes and quit golf. I changed my major to neuro and got a job as an ekg tech. Talk about having no back up plan. I didn't care because I had a goal. I wanted to get into medical school. I told myself: "if I have to live poor with undergrad debt so be it, I will get into medical school". Two years later I graduated with a useless degree. I did have something. I had worked my way up through the hospital ranks and became an EEG tech. I didn't get this job because of my degree. Although I made only about $40k per year I still had a goal but I didn't have prerequisites or an MCAT. I took classes after work and took the MCAT two times. I was poor still am. I applied last cycle and got rejected everywhere. Admissions staff at these schools all told me the same thing. You have excellent experience and a fine mcat. No way I could raise my GPA had 190 credits. I'm starting a post bacc this year and I know I will succeed. Don't be scared about getting a worthless degree, be scared about trying to finish prerequisites and getting a good MCAT while you have to work a **** job. If you truly want to get into medical school it's not about making 80k a year right out of the gates. It's about surviving until you accomplish your goal. Surviving is a lot easier in college. Quit NURSING NOW and spend that time finishing your prerequisites and MCAT. You WILL get BURNT OUT after graduating with a BSN. You will have to provide for yourself when you graduate. You will have to work a full time. One of the most mentally and physically demanding full time jobs. I don't even know how nurses get enough relaxation time as it is. So do you want to study during the night, getting 4 hours of sleep, then wake up and clean poop and deal with crazy patients that will cuss you out all day? Or do you want to finish your stuff now and have a crummy job while you are applying?

Thanks


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[OrdinaryDO]

Wow this is an old thread.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Let me tell you guys a story. I started college as a division 1 athlete with absolutely no academic plans. I ruined my GPA taking pointless art classes and quit golf. I changed my major to neuro and got a job as an ekg tech. Talk about having no back up plan. I didn't care because I had a goal. I wanted to get into medical school. I told myself: "if I have to live poor with undergrad debt so be it, I will get into medical school". Two years later I graduated with a useless degree. I did have something. I had worked my way up through the hospital ranks and became an EEG tech. I didn't get this job because of my degree. Although I made only about $40k per year I still had a goal but I didn't have prerequisites or an MCAT. I took classes after work and took the MCAT two times. I was poor still am. I applied last cycle and got rejected everywhere. Admissions staff at these schools all told me the same thing. You have excellent experience and a fine mcat. No way I could raise my GPA had 190 credits. I'm starting a post bacc this year and I know I will succeed. Don't be scared about getting a worthless degree, be scared about trying to finish prerequisites and getting a good MCAT while you have to work a **** job. If you truly want to get into medical school it's not about making 80k a year right out of the gates. It's about surviving until you accomplish your goal. Surviving is a lot easier in college. Quit NURSING NOW and spend that time finishing your prerequisites and MCAT. You WILL get BURNT OUT after graduating with a BSN. You will have to provide for yourself when you graduate. You will have to work a full time. One of the most mentally and physically demanding full time jobs. I don't even know how nurses get enough relaxation time as it is. So do you want to study during the night, getting 4 hours of sleep, then wake up and clean poop and deal with crazy patients that will cuss you out all day? Or do you want to finish your stuff now and have a crummy job while you are applying?

Thanks


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Dude seriously stop bumping old threads.