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@genny and @Mad Jack what are your thoughts on mel?

@dpmd do you still think AM is wolfy today?

I am thinking there was some behind the scenes stuff going on that she forgot about or didn't put 2 and 2 together on until late. Still might be sketchy but maybe not.

 

[finnickthedog]

Vet school anyone?

Class of 2023?

Why of course

I wish everyone the best of luck who gets accepted.

But we all(Okay most cause its the pre-vet thread) want to go! Not bad

I know, but not everyone will get in.

The voices are confused by this exchange.

 

[Stagg737]

Omg at least someone else is up

Re. PMs, a plea for uniformity more than anything because there were opposite things being said by AM and I.

Okay, so to clarify... PM means Private Message but also means a plea for uniformity? That's so confusing and I don't like that terminology 😕

What do you know of the chaos role? Familiar with it at all?

My understanding is that it's either a neutral or "lone-wolf" role (like MJ in Safari) that has it's own set of conditions for winning the game. Idk if that always comes at the expense of the village, but it sounds like it? The only game I've full read with a chaos was Safari, and I was kind of confused about it since it was the first game I read. Other than that I think it's typically a good thing when village kills chaos? Or is it not? I find it really intriguing but don't have the experience to really know what it actually is at this point.

I see. She editted it.

@Melchizedek what did it show?

Her application for a scholarship so she could prove the timing and that she wasn't lying.

Iyay asn'tway entirelyyay uresay owhay otay answeryay ouryay estionquay.

Oh god, why? At least it's not backwards though.

My question/the thing that I wanted to know was why did you not change your vote on D1. I asked a couple times and felt like you just ignored me, which seemed kind of sketch. Maybe you just didn't see my previous question. Wasn't looking for anything groundbreaking, just a response in general. Trying not to tunnel on you, because I don't have anything solid as to why you'd be a wolf, but you've been generally giving me feels that I don't like.

Same thing for @PippyPony , except she acknowledged my question and chose to dismiss. Which I liked even less. So since her post restriction is hopefully lifted, why leave your vote on me then?

Before someone jumps on me about it, I voted jboo as a joke and didn't have enough evidence to make a switch (basically MJ's RNG logic). D2 I left it on jboo because the only person I was considering switching to was Mel, and if I had done that it would have created a 3-way tie. Which I wasn't about to do. I didn't feel comfortable with a Law or Dolphin lynch, which is why I didn't vote there. I would have rather sat back and not had a tie than place a vote on someone I didn't feel comfortable voting for and potentially create a tie (like Moose and Finn accidentally did).

I wanted to save dolphin. Don't really want to go deeply into it, but it's related to this post in a way.

Ty for answering that, I'll look into it more. I was getting a lot of wolfy feels last night, but the more I look back and think about it, the more I'm leaning village with you for now. I still don't like the order of some events, but I'm going to put those on the back-burner for now and look into some other things that have been bothering me or that I need to look into more.

what slip up?

The slip up was AM pushing to lynch Dolphin then all of a sudden saying "wait, I changed my mind, don't lynch dolphin" right after she convinced dpmd to switch her lynch vote to Dolphin. Overall it sounds like just a mistake, but the thing that I'm still not sure about is why she took her vote off of lawper and switched to Allie. Gotta go back and read a bit to see if I can straighten that out.

not liking the fishing stagg is doing

Explain please. I have very specific questions in my head about things that aren't sitting right with me, most of which I've stated in thread (Why NK Paws? Why did AM switch off Law? Why a (almost) 3 person swing to save YK on D1?). The other things I'm asking are to try and clear people that my logic is telling me aren't wolfy but my gut says otherwise (Pip, jboo, AM). Curious as to why that seems fishy or if you're reading something that isn't there...

@youngkal the voices in my head don't think that you should be trying to analyze the meta (god I hate that word) of Lawp when they haven't played many games and have only wolfed once. Because one game does not make a meta.

@Melchizedek the voices in my head question why, if you were more comfortable losing a quiet player if we had to lose one, you chose to vote allie over houston

I can pull quotes of the specific posts the voices were triggered by, but I'm lazy so if you know what I'm getting at without me quoting then I'd rather not go quote.

I like this post. There have been a couple other things Mel has said done that also don't sit right with me. Maybe it's his play, but I'm a noob, so his meta of supposed sketchiness is not something I'm comfortable with yet.


As an aside, I just looked at Houston's profile. (S)He only have 1 post and hasn't been on SDN since 1pm on Thursday. I realize they're a newbie, but if you're not going to play, then I'd rather lose a villager who is absent and shows no signs of ever actually playing than potentially lose one who is contributing who we may be able to clear later. If someone gives me a reason why that logic is stupid, I've got another person I'll switch my vote to, but for now:

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LYNCH HOUSTON
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So @Houstonnn97 , where you at?

Also, @vetmedhead , @capri1722 , @MixedAnimals77 , if we can confirm Houston isn't playing/isn't going to play and someone else wants to jump in can we replace them? I'd hate to lose a player like this, but I also hate to have what's essentially an empty spot stay in the game for no reason...

The voices are confused by this exchange.

Obviously for the likes...

 

[SkiOtter]

Also, @vetmedhead , @capri1722 , @MixedAnimals77 , if we can confirm Houston isn't playing/isn't going to play and someone else wants to jump in can we replace them? I'd hate to lose a player like this, but I also hate to have what's essentially an empty spot stay in the game for no reason...

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Mods usually will not confirm or deny anything of the sort because it could affect the game
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[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Okay, so to clarify... PM means Private Message but also means a plea for uniformity? That's so confusing and I don't like that terminology 😕

My understanding is that it's either a neutral or "lone-wolf" role (like MJ in Safari) that has it's own set of conditions for winning the game. Idk if that always comes at the expense of the village, but it sounds like it? The only game I've full read with a chaos was Safari, and I was kind of confused about it since it was the first game I read. Other than that I think it's typically a good thing when village kills chaos? Or is it not? I find it really intriguing but don't have the experience to really know what it actually is at this point.

No no, regarding your question on PMs, that is what I had to say about it

There wasn't a chaos in Safari. MJ was s wolf still and won the game.

Are you PMing anyone?

 

[capri1722]

D3 Lynch Tally

Coffee? (1) - Moose
Moose (1) - Mel
Mel (1) - Kara
FS (1) - Snowy
Houston (1) - Stagg

5/22

Lynch close in ~7 hours

 

[Stagg737]

No no, regarding your question on PMs, that is what I had to say about it

There wasn't a chaos in Safari. MJ was s wolf still and won the game.

Are you PMing anyone?

Tour Group
1. @WildZoo: rezzed Bongo vanillager, now converted wolf
2. @johnnaboo: Baboon, wolf blocker
5. @PippyPony: Giraffe, vanillager
11. @Coopah: Zebra, vanillager
13. @capri1722: Spotted hyena, 1x rezzer
15. @Mad Jack: Poacher, lone wolf who could kill power roles

MJ was a lone wolf, I thought that meant he was chaos because he wasn't part of the wolf chat?

I am PM'ing Katashark and Dolphin, just started PM'ing with Dolphin last night since Allie was killed. Tried to PM with Allie but she never responded. Getting a mostly village vibe from Kata, he's not really on my radar right now to investigate. Only got a quick response from Dolphin last night around 10 or so and haven't heard back since.

 

[Stagg737]

Also, I've got to go to a kids party for a while, so I likely won't be back until around 6 or later. I will be back before lynch though and will change to my actual choice then if someone gives me a reason to not vote for dead weight.

Edit: I'll try and check in on my phone at some point, but likely won't be making significant contributions because it's a really old phone that sucks.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

MJ was a lone wolf, I thought that meant he was chaos because he wasn't part of the wolf chat?

I am PM'ing Katashark and Dolphin, just started PM'ing with Dolphin last night since Allie was killed. Tried to PM with Allie but she never responded. Getting a mostly village vibe from Kata, he's not really on my radar right now to investigate. Only got a quick response from Dolphin last night around 10 or so and haven't heard back since.

No, chaos is designated by blue color. True, he couldnt PM with the other wolves, but he won the gane with them as was indicated at the end. Its why WZ said it was fun to win with hin.

So what I'm wondering is who is feeding you information. Because for someone who has been playing the noob card and even said you were only familiar with certain roles you seem to have a clear grasp on chaos concept, which wasn't discussed in Bake and was discussed in Safari spec chat, but you werent part of.

 

[Animal Midwife]

No, chaos is designated by blue color. True, he couldnt PM with the other wolves, but he won the gane with them as was indicated at the end. Its why WZ said it was fun to win with hin.

Why are you saying blue is the only color when WWalking Dead had purple?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Why are you saying blue is the only color when WWalking Dead had purple?

At any point, chaos is not designated the same as wolf color (red) which is more the point I was trying to make.

 

[Animal Midwife]

At any point, chaos is not designated the same as wolf color (red) which is more the point I was trying to make.

All wolves of the same affiliation have access to wolf chat. MJ could have won with the village if he wanted to.

 

[Mad Jack]

@genny and @Mad Jack what are your thoughts on mel?

@dpmd do you still think AM is wolfy today?

He feels a touch wolfy, but I'm still upset at him so I wouldn't listen to me

 

[Animal Midwife]

He feels a touch wolfy, but I'm still upset at him so I wouldn't listen to me

Do you have thoughts on other players?

 

[Mad Jack]

Do you have thoughts on other players?

Aside from you being annoying, no

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

All wolves of the same affiliation have access to wolf chat. MJ could have won with the village if he wanted to.

MJ was on the wolf team.
Are you trying to say that MJ was chaos (which he was not)?

The main aspects of my argument is that he extrapolated all this info about chaos role (good for village to get rid of, separate win conditions, neutral party) from that one game where MJ was not even chaos and the word wasn't associated him within the game. Is this or is it not valid to point out?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Aside from you being annoying, no

For real though, how am I suppose to trust you if you won't add thoughts?

 

[Animal Midwife]

MJ was on the wolf team.
Are you trying to say that MJ was chaos (which he was not)?

The main aspects of my argument is that he extrapolated all this info about chaos role (good for village to get rid of, separate win conditions, neutral party) from that one game where MJ was not even chaos and the word wasn't associated him within the game. Is this or is it not valid to point out?

He wasn't chaos, he was a third-party. I don't know if it's valid to point out, I was just saying MJ was not a wolf.

 

[finnickthedog]

He wasn't chaos, he was a third-party. I don't know if it's valid to point out, I was just saying MJ was not a wolf.

It sure looks like he was a wolf rather than 3rd party in that game to me... granted, I'm not sure why any of this matters in regards to the current game.

 

[Lawpy]

Sorry for the self votes on D2, and I appreciate the constructive criticism. I admittedly developed a defeatist attitude when swamped with votes and felt like I was being a burden to village. I'm working on resolving this and will focus on addressing the votes directly than heading to defeatism. I won't do it this game or in future games

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

He wasn't chaos, he was a third-party. I don't know if it's valid to point out, I was just saying MJ was not a wolf.

Maybe @katashark would like to confirm or deny if she discussed what chaos meant?

 

[Lawpy]

Going to try something out

Lynch Moosy

Mainly because of her strange interactions with coffee?

 

[Karabiner13]

Why are you hung up on Mel?

Maybe it's his manipulative personality? Went back through and I think this is what's got me hung up

I think AM was looking at you sideways because it looked like you got called out for being on a joke vote and then you proceeded to move to another joke vote.

Answering for someone else. I know it wasn't a question but it was AM's place to respond

I agree with this, but compared to whats on the table I would rather see one of them flip now and bank on a Rez to bring them back if they are village

banking on a rez, and using that as a reason to push dubz when he's never believed in it. Which I also look forward to hearing about his 'beetle juicing' because I don't remember him using that as a method before either

Spoiler: Why Dubz?

Looking back at her gameplay
It takes her 16 posts over 3 hours to put in a lynch vote, and when she does its a joke vote on FS.
During those three hours, Stagg started catching flak for his stance on D1 voting and WZ says the following on that topic


both of which read as her just subtly throwing sketch on Stagg to see if the sparks flying his way would catch fire, while trying to stay out of the limelight.

Like I said, you've triggered my suspicions in a situation where you could die, and still be brought back if I’m wrong. I'm capitalizing on that situation.

this just seemed like normal dubz. She will explain things, point things out people are missing, etc. Really nothing there so why pick out dubz of everyone?

Do these YK votes feel strangely like the way lynches ran the first couple days during Baking WW? No? Just me?

and yes, I know he said 4 min to close is when he noticed this but it still feels off. And yes, I could see him doing something like this this early as a wolf. He likes the fancy play and taking risks

Paws and AM were not bandwagoners, they both expressed willingness to lynch Dubz hours ago when I initially discussed my theory on dubz with Paws (with Paws relaying to AM), before I brought it up on thread.

paws and AM couldn't answer for themselves before you jumped in?

I'm taking those points, whether you want to give them or not.

I find it interesting that you're bringing this up after I expressed suspicion about you. Deflecting perhaps?

Agree with genny's point here because later, rather than go with genny, mel contingency lynches jayna

Contingency lynch Jayna

I'm not completely done with this line of inquiry on Genny, and I have questions for Jboo in the morning, but for now I'm giving in to the jet lag.

I don't think we ever got an answer for why jayna btw and I just looked through mel's posts. Almost seems like he's setting genny up for later

Revisited this theory. If wolves knew about Paws' ability, it would have been more profittable to have used today to swing the lynch to Paws and get village to waste a day or two trying to confirm/get rid of what we might have thought was an alpha.


Thats when it occurred to me. I'm a little slow kay?


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He does. Its annoying, but NAI in his case.
RE: Lawper.
I don't think he's a wolf, just overdramatic. He's smarter than to paint a target on his back by pushing me as a lynch knowing he'd come under fire when I flip village.
Or...at least I think he is?

when his idea that implicated AM for why paws died wasn't gaining steam, he switches. Timing on that just felt off

I don't know some of this is normal mel but it also feels off

 

[Karabiner13]

My understanding is that it's either a neutral or "lone-wolf" role (like MJ in Safari) that has it's own set of conditions for winning the game. Idk if that always comes at the expense of the village, but it sounds like it? The only game I've full read with a chaos was Safari, and I was kind of confused about it since it was the first game I read. Other than that I think it's typically a good thing when village kills chaos? Or is it not? I find it really intriguing but don't have the experience to really know what it actually is at this point.

Her application for a scholarship so she could prove the timing and that she wasn't lying.

Before someone jumps on me about it, I voted jboo as a joke and didn't have enough evidence to make a switch (basically MJ's RNG logic). D2 I left it on jboo because the only person I was considering switching to was Mel, and if I had done that it would have created a 3-way tie. Which I wasn't about to do. I didn't feel comfortable with a Law or Dolphin lynch, which is why I didn't vote there. I would have rather sat back and not had a tie than place a vote on someone I didn't feel comfortable voting for and potentially create a tie (like Moose and Finn accidentally did).

The slip up was AM pushing to lynch Dolphin then all of a sudden saying "wait, I changed my mind, don't lynch dolphin" right after she convinced dpmd to switch her lynch vote to Dolphin. Overall it sounds like just a mistake, but the thing that I'm still not sure about is why she took her vote off of lawper and switched to Allie. Gotta go back and read a bit to see if I can straighten that out.

There's a whole lot I don't like here.

First to clarify (although it is not relevant): In safari, MJ was a lone wolf who would win with wolves and counted for wolf numbers but did not have access to wolfchat. He was not chaos

There are 2 instances of answering for someone else here. The question I asked about the slip up was fully intended for moose. I realize she is busy today and I might not get an answer for a while but I wanted an answer from her, not you

The tie: I believe you had plenty of time for a tie to be broken. Why so worried about it?

unlynch mel
lynch stagg

 

[Karabiner13]

other things I'd like to hear about after re-reading

@SportPonies I'd like your thoughts on the dolphin situation now that it's a new day along with other thoughts

@youngkal did you ever put a stake in the ground as to which ones on yours and dubz's lynch D1 are wolves?

@dolphin106258 come back, keep playing, your thoughts do matter even if you're having a hard time keeping up

@katashark what are your thoughts on some people that haven't been the main candidates for lynch

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Hey guys I haven't been able to catch up on the thread as I'm heading back to Amherst but I met Jboo today 😀
I can't see the thread as I'm out of 4G and back on the road in the middle of nowhere. So I hope people aren't lynching me but if they are I hope people would give me a chance to defend myself. I promise I'll be on as soon as I get home!!!
(Also, if anyone says that I didn't give allie a chance, the only reason I voted for her was because I had created a tie twice and I didn't think she'd be lynched as I had no way of knowing AM and Lawpy would jump on her). Thanks for understanding guys 🙂

Sent from my SM-G900T using SDN mobile

 

[Karabiner13]

Explain please. I have very specific questions in my head about things that aren't sitting right with me, most of which I've stated in thread (Why NK Paws? Why did AM switch off Law? Why a (almost) 3 person swing to save YK on D1?). The other things I'm asking are to try and clear people that my logic is telling me aren't wolfy but my gut says otherwise (Pip, jboo, AM). Curious as to why that seems fishy or if you're reading something that isn't there...

as for this you were fishing for info from am that didn't need to be pursued farther than the answers she had given

 

[SkiOtter]

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[jaboo]

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U guys r cute
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[jaboo]

My question/the thing that I wanted to know was why did you not change your vote on D1. I asked a couple times and felt like you just ignored me, which seemed kind of sketch.

I stayed on you for voicing a strong opinion about the game and then following up a few posts later with a noob question. It felt coached to me.

Iyay idn'tday ignoreyay ouyay

 

[jaboo]

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[JaynaAli]

Here's my thoughts today:
I didn't realize how much talking for other people that mel was doing until kara pointed it out.
I realize this is her norm where AM asks a ton of questions of people but I did an ISO and can't see where she ever posts reads. I'd like to see where her questions are leading her to place everyone. The whole was MJ a wolf or third party convo today seemed weird...I'd expect her to know what a lone wolf was?
Pippy hasn't checked in today and I'm eager to see what she's got to say now that the post restriction is lifted.
I still need to go back and reread to get a better feel about stagg. Giving it a slight wolfy lean right this moment, but I want to go back and confirm the feelings or see if they change.

 

[capri1722]

D3 Lynch Tally

Coffee? (1) - Moose
Moose (2) - Mel, Lawpy
Mel () -
FS (1) - Snowy
Houston (1) - Stagg
Stagg (1) - Kara
Lawpy (1) - booJay

7/22

Roll call: a lot

Lynch close in ~3 hours

 

[genny]

@genny and @Mad Jack what are your thoughts on mel?

@dpmd do you still think AM is wolfy today?

Mel always comes across as sketchy because he likes to scheme. He likes to come up with plans. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. He's like this as a villager or as a wolf, and I don't know that I can tell the difference yet. So eventually, I just end up voting for him to figure it out. I don't think I'm at that point yet, but the more people talk about him and wonder, the more I want to vote for him just to get the question answered.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with Mel. He seems well within his village meta.

 

[youngkal]

@youngkal did you ever put a stake in the ground as to which ones on yours and dubz's lynch D1 are wolves?

I have not yet. I plan on looking more at voting patterns/suspicions tonight/tomorrow.

Right now I think i have Most people in the completely unsure space because of little posting..

AM seems normal, you seem normal

Mel seems village but like don’t trust that ever. Pip seems less active than I’m used to but it could be IRL stuff so. MJ is quiet as normal.
Still a little skeptical of Lawpy but he took a WW break for a while.

Unfortunately Overall i have minimal feels worth pursuing atm

 

[youngkal]

Thoughts on no NK? Convert? Or something to do with a free Genny?

 

[genny]

Thoughts on no NK? Convert? Or something to do with a free Genny?

Nothing to do with me, as far as I know. You left blocking and protection off your list.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm going to

Lynch MOOSE

to add pressure and keep the votes from being spread out too far.

 

[Melchizedek]

Dude. Kind of important to mention that I asked you to vote MJ in a mayor election, not a lynch. Talk about manipulating perception, jeez.

Unbunch your panties, I wasn’t leading anyone astray. I figured people knew that the beginning of the baking game was was a mayor vote.

why not stagg, lawpy or moose? They were all up for lynch too. Don't remember where you've been on them

Already mentioned I was feeling lawper was village. MOOSE was very slight wolf but not actionable. Reading Stagg with a slight village lean.

@youngkal the voices in my head don't think that you should be trying to analyze the meta (god I hate that word) of Lawp when they haven't played many games and have only wolfed once. Because one game does not make a meta.

@Melchizedek the voices in my head question why, if you were more comfortable losing a quiet player if we had to lose one, you chose to vote allie over houston

I’ve already explained why I chose Allie. Houston was not on the board.
Going forward I’m ignoring every post that keeps bugging me about why I voted Allie. I’m tired of sounding like a broken record.

Okay, so to clarify... PM means Private Message but also means a plea for uniformity? That's so confusing and I don't like that terminology 😕



My understanding is that it's either a neutral or "lone-wolf" role (like MJ in Safari) that has it's own set of conditions for winning the game. Idk if that always comes at the expense of the village, but it sounds like it? The only game I've full read with a chaos was Safari, and I was kind of confused about it since it was the first game I read. Other than that I think it's typically a good thing when village kills chaos? Or is it not? I find it really intriguing but don't have the experience to really know what it actually is at this point.

PM is private message. My PM to coffee? was me saying “I need you and AM on the SAME DAMN PAGE about this Dolphin thing” which is my plea for uniformity.
Chaos most often bad for village but also bad for wolves because they are a wild card. Wolves are interested in lynching chaos too which is why people are looking at me sideways right now

 

[Karabiner13]

Thoughts on no NK? Convert? Or something to do with a free Genny?

I think whatever happened had to do with this

One particularly malicious traveler attempted to climb Barr Trail, but the trail was too steep and they were forced to turn back without completing their goal. All in all a fun day and a nice break from the recent deaths and disappearances.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with Mel. He seems well within his village meta.

I do trust your judgement AM but can't help but think of MI

 

[Animal Midwife]

I do trust your judgement AM but can't help but think of MI

I did correctly read him in TLM and Meat though.

 

[PippyPony]

Omg I legit forgot about this game.

This has never happened to me before.

Am I dead yet? Can I talk normally?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Omg I legit forgot about this game.

This has never happened to me before.

Am I dead yet? Can I talk normally?

lol wut

You made a normal post last night.

 

[Melchizedek]

Omg I legit forgot about this game.

This has never happened to me before.

Am I dead yet? Can I talk normally?

BULL****

 

[Melchizedek]

I think whatever happened had to do with this

Also I was told that I felt a "heavenly presence" last night

 

[dpmd]

Pippy that is sketch as ****

 

[Animal Midwife]

BTW, I was attacked last night.

 

[youngkal]

Nothing to do with me, as far as I know. You left blocking and protection off your list.

True. I just feel like that doesn’t happen as often ha

 

[kaydubs]

Hey guys I haven't been able to catch up on the thread as I'm heading back to Amhe but I
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