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It didn't look it to me. Can you clarify it?
Well I clearly said I was having a hard time specifically articulating it, but your overall reaction and somehow resistance to not being able to vote those in unknown place seems weird and off putting. As well as some of your interactions with Zig have felt off to me as well, when normally I feel very confident in the village-ness of them.
 
You don't think it's weird that she's revealing things? It wasn't about whether it's harmful for her to put that on thread

Not the things that she has revealed. Based on my playing time with her, she's a lot less cryptic than most people think she is if you ask the right questions/the information isn't harmful to be revealed. Hence my second comment
 
Was he not already tied? Why vote with pressure implied and not tag him...this just feels like a vote to say you voted early. I agree he should come on but this feels like a weird way to do IMO.
It's not even early right now... and it's not that he hasn't been here, it's that when he was here he never actually posted anything about the game
 
It's not even early right now... and it's not that he hasn't been here, it's that when he was here he never actually posted anything about the game
I meant If you look at the overall voting numbers you won’t be grouped with people who will come on much later and vote. I know it isn’t actually early time wise, so you’re saying you have no other feelings or reads except stagg not posting enough when he was here earlier?
 
Also have mild feelings on Skim for dropping what feels almost like a joke vote on Mel when we have a full day to look at and should at least be able to make some thoughts beyond joke votes at this point.
I flat out stated it was a joke vote. It was me putting in a vote at the beginning of the day when I had a few minutes, based off nothing really. Often putting in a vote and looking at reactions to that vote, can give information. People’s reactions to today’s votes may even give us information later in the game. I’d rather someone put in a vote, even if it’s based on nothing, than holding their vote until close to lynch close.
So have you reevaluated this at all or just happy sitting here?
I just got home, so no, I haven’t re-evaluated this yet, but no, I also likely won’t just sit there. Mel is a pita, but I also really like him and I wouldn’t want him lynched d1 (unless he’s a wolf, in which case, the sooner he’s gone, the better.)
 
D2 Official Lynch Tally

dubz () -
mpm (1) - am
stagg (3) - dubz, zigjaz, barks
mel (2) - skim, matty
miz () -
doggo () -
skim (1) - pips
dolphin (1) - genny
capri (1) - lawpy
zigjaz (1) - grebes
am (1) - dolphin

11/31

Missing:
@capri1722 @Jahboi @StayingPositive2017 @Doggo Labs @Stagg737 @allieh8607 @emlady09 @SARdoghandler @mizchiefmanaged @mypetmoose @Dinashadow @johnnaboo @CoffeeQuestionMark @Melchizedek @PrincessButterCup @Ms Procrastinator @StartingoverVet @kcoughli @muttmanager @Trilt

Deadline 10pm est (~4 hours)

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I meant If you look at the overall voting numbers you won’t be grouped with people who will come on much later and vote. I know it isn’t actually early time wise, so you’re saying you have no other feelings or reads except stagg not posting enough when he was here earlier?
I've been working on ISOing people who can be voted for today and a large majority of them haven't posted much to go off of
 
Well I clearly said I was having a hard time specifically articulating it, but your overall reaction and somehow resistance to not being able to vote those in unknown place seems weird and off putting. As well as some of your interactions with Zig have felt off to me as well, when normally I feel very confident in the village-ness of them.

Where am I showing resistance to not being allowed to lynch the untouchables? And which interactions with ziggy felt off.

It's just the last time you talked about me, you said you were strongly considering using the reverie on me. This seems like a sharp contrast for no posts in between.
 
Before you started iso-ing, did you have any initial leans? Even considering people who are "in locations unknown" today?
I was sketched out by ziggy because I felt a lot of her posts weren't really saying anything and some just felt like recaps of the day but I'm not sure I want to go there yet because I always think she's sketchy. I was also side eyeing Miz a bit because of his doggo lynch since the explanation didn't make sense but he apparently got his names mixed up. I'm mostly struggling because I feel like it's been a lot of the same people posting over and over and there's a lot of people who have only posted once or twice or people whose posts are getting buried during to the large number of posts right now.
 
D2 Official Lynch Tally

dubz () -
mpm (1) - am
stagg (3) - dubz, zigjaz, barks
mel (2) - skim, matty
miz () -
doggo () -
skim (1) - pips
dolphin (1) - genny
capri (1) - lawpy
zigjaz (1) - grebes
am (1) - dolphin

11/31

Missing:
@capri1722 @Jahboi @StayingPositive2017 @Doggo Labs @Stagg737 @allieh8607 @emlady09 @SARdoghandler @mizchiefmanaged @mypetmoose @Dinashadow @johnnaboo @CoffeeQuestionMark @Melchizedek @PrincessButterCup @Ms Procrastinator @StartingoverVet @kcoughli @muttmanager @Trilt

Deadline 10pm est (~4 hours)

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anyone find this strange that cubs and Coops are missing?
 
Past few days have been a lot busier than I expected since my new rotation uses an EMR I've never seen before so I've just been skimming. Until then,

Lynch Sporty

Will have actual thoughts and vote later.
 
###lynch mel### I am caught up, but I don't have time to do another read through, and this is where my feels landed me.
 
No, it is not residual saltiness. I misinterpreted the way that votes work. I thought my block vote would merely "cancel out" AM's self vote. I do not want her to be the reverie, but I don't necessarily want her to be blocked either. I am contemplating changing my vote, but as you have said, not much has occurred and thus it is difficult for me to know who I would like to reverie or block. I have time to contemplate.
At this point I'm going to
lynch zig
I don't like the back and forth on the ties yesterday and the above quote struck me as odd logic. It's not salt but she just doesn't want AM to have the vote. I also just did not understand her resistance to sharing the reverie
 
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I don't like that zig tried to break the tie. mods confirmed that in a tie, all tied parties would receive the benefits/consequences of the tie (in the case of reverie, the benefits). why would we not want to spread the love to multiple people if possible?
i guess this is assuming that both pippy and barks are village, but i don't see any reasons (yet) to believe that they aren't. I'm glad someone (i forget who) got on to re-tie it. if i'd been around i probably would have changed my vote to tie it up too.


but also last game she wolfed in (that i played with her, not sure if there's been one since then), her wolf meta was sooooo obviously different from her village meta.... and when it was pointed out, she played it off that she'd been working on not getting so worked up over WW games. i don't think that meta would fly again and i'd be surprised if she didn't try to make them match more closely in future games. so im not giving her any village credit for being combative and defensive.

lynch ziggazoon
I don't like this entire post, and if you weren't in locations unknown I would likely be lynching you for it. Anytime someone gets this much into the weeds on hypotheticals it jives to me as insincere.

She is not fixed because she isn't broken.
FWIW, from a game design perspective I really personally like gif/image restriction roles as long as they come with a buff somewhere else.

Did anyone else see/comment on this tidbit in a long post by Mel yesterday re: reverie?



I think I have the Mel/Ziggy interaction as v/v but I also defended wolf Mel to my grave one time so clearly my reading on him is heavily flawed. But this quote put up my squidges as I'm re-reading. Like "look, I'm working for village, clearly!" when going for a role that likely would be dangerous for a wolf to have due to risk of investigation
We even out. I try and lynch him every game we play together and I'm not sure he has ever been a wolf lol. That post you reference definitely feels excuse-y.

Was he not already tied? Why vote with pressure implied and not tag him...this just feels like a vote to say you voted early. I agree he should come on but this feels like a weird way to do IMO.
This feels like a weeiiirdd nitpick to me. You're really gonna call out not tagging someone as sketchy?

I just got home, so no, I haven’t re-evaluated this yet, but no, I also likely won’t just sit there. Mel is a pita, but I also really like him and I wouldn’t want him lynched d1 (unless he’s a wolf, in which case, the sooner he’s gone, the better.)
lynch Skimble

See statement above about hypotheticals... "unless he's a wolf in which case obviously he needs to go but I definitely don't want to lynch him (even though I already have!)"

Nah. Don't like that. In combination with the weird SOV play yesterday, I really don't like it.

No, you won't. You never do.
sheesh
 
I don't like this entire post, and if you weren't in locations unknown I would likely be lynching you for it. Anytime someone gets this much into the weeds on hypotheticals it jives to me as insincere.


FWIW, from a game design perspective I really personally like gif/image restriction roles as long as they come with a buff somewhere else.


We even out. I try and lynch him every game we play together and I'm not sure he has ever been a wolf lol. That post you reference definitely feels excuse-y.


This feels like a weeiiirdd nitpick to me. You're really gonna call out not tagging someone as sketchy?


lynch Skimble

See statement above about hypotheticals... "unless he's a wolf in which case obviously he needs to go but I definitely don't want to lynch him (even though I already have!)"

Nah. Don't like that. In combination with the weird SOV play yesterday, I really don't like it.


sheesh

What do you mean by weird SOV play? Explain gently why you felt his play was weird
 
Where am I showing resistance to not being allowed to lynch the untouchables? And which interactions with ziggy felt off.

It's just the last time you talked about me, you said you were strongly considering using the reverie on me. This seems like a sharp contrast for no posts in between.

This is my post talking about you in context with the reverie I don’t see how this is strongly saying I might pick you in anyway. Especially at the bolded.
I meant to do this earlier but slightly forgot but also thought I had plenty of time..but apparently everyone is impatient.

Reverie Barks

I thought about doing Mel just for lulz but alas. I think I saw someone mention how Barks does extremely well with power roles. Which is true. And I normally want to vote AM for these things because I can usually get a good read right away but you know last game hurt me a bit...
I've been working on ISOing people who can be voted for today and a large majority of them haven't posted much to go off of
I get that, but it just seems off to me that stagg is your strongest option, especially for the reasoning you presented with the vote.
 
This is my post talking about you in context with the reverie I don’t see how this is strongly saying I might pick you in anyway. Especially at the bolded.
How is it not? You said you would pick me if not for you being wrong on me the last game. Which is ironic considering your reasoning for voting me this time, but I digress. I still don't know why you're voting for me though.
 
You just don't like them? I agree with you on Mel but curious why you dont think Skil isn't a good lynch
Skilary's joke vote was weird but didn't find her explanations to be damning or wolfy. I see what Trouts is saying though but that feels like a bit of an overinterpretation.
 
Lynch Genny

I usually pick up Village!Genny within the first 2-3 posts she makes in a game. Not getting that in this game at all.
Could also vote ZJ for previously stated reasons.
 
Lynch mel

I am sure this is an unpopular strategy, and will be called out for it...but the Mel ziggy back and forth is distracting to me, and Mel’s play style rubs me the wrong way again, This is a wolf speaker thing to me (for any of you who were around back in the day)...just need to Lynch him early to not be a distraction to the village. Maybe ziggy as well.

I will have way more time tomorrow and Friday to read more carefully, and do better analysis, but I think in the long run this helps village if Mel is wolf or not. We spend too much time discussing a couple of people. Sorry dude.
 
Lynch mel

I am sure this is an unpopular strategy, and will be called out for it...but the Mel ziggy back and forth is distracting to me, and Mel’s play style rubs me the wrong way again, This is a wolf speaker thing to me (for any of you who were around back in the day)...just need to Lynch him early to not be a distraction to the village. Maybe ziggy as well.

I will have way more time tomorrow and Friday to read more carefully, and do better analysis, but I think in the long run this helps village if Mel is wolf or not. We spend too much time discussing a couple of people. Sorry dude.

It increases the chances of loss, if Mel flips village, by 30%. I can tell you on one hand how many games have been won by village when Mel's been mislynched.
 
D2 Official Lynch Tally

dubz () -
mpm (2) - am, sar
stagg (3) - dubz, zigjaz, barks
mel (4) - skim, matty, mpm, sov
miz () -
doggo () -
skim (2) - pips, trilt
dolphin (1) - genny
capri () -
zigjaz (3) - grebes, paws, lawpy
am (1) - dolphin
sporty (1) - stagg
genny (1) - mel

18/31

Missing:
capri, jahboi, doggo, allie, emmy, miz, dina, jboo, koffee, pbc, MsP, kcough, mutts

Deadline 10pm est (~2.5 hours)

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*****lynch Jboo***** for overall lack of communication. Nothing super solid right now. Also ok with a skimble lynch and if it comes down to it may switch over if necessary.
 
I voted for Mel because I am a mess, and I read Pippy's point on him and started nodding and suddenly I became a sheep... I sorry... I am not ready to vote ziggy, who even though she is stressing me out (or more accurately was stressing me out till I talked myself out of it)- I will give her a bit longer. Right now, I am just reading once and being done. Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to re-read and come up with something more substantial. Sorry guys...
Anyways... Lawpy you said no to Mel and Skim? Why no Mel?

Also, since my views on Mel are obviously not terribly solid, I am willing to give him a break. I'm assuming that of everyone vouching for him someone has a good reason...
unlynch Mel
But now I don't know who to lynch and I should be studying for my Immunology Exam. I will be back around deadline for a bit...
 
Lynch mel

I am sure this is an unpopular strategy, and will be called out for it...but the Mel ziggy back and forth is distracting to me, and Mel’s play style rubs me the wrong way again, This is a wolf speaker thing to me (for any of you who were around back in the day)...just need to Lynch him early to not be a distraction to the village. Maybe ziggy as well.

I will have way more time tomorrow and Friday to read more carefully, and do better analysis, but I think in the long run this helps village if Mel is wolf or not. We spend too much time discussing a couple of people. Sorry dude.
For the record, count me in as someone who is going to call you out for this as your sole reason for a vote.

I understand lynching someone because they are a village distraction, and have done it myself, but it is for a low signal:noise ratio that progresses way past useful discussion, not because other people are actively discussing that person's wolfiness over the span of less than 24 hours. This reads as you just being too busy/lazy to read through the comments that are generated by people asking questions. It's a huge game; there will be a high level of posts across the board as a sheer function of the number of alive active players during the first few days. It is reality.
 
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